Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #54: Funeral Plans and Inflatable Body Parts: A Candid Conversation
Reflections on Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti album turning 50 years old
Kline shares about his father-in-law's recent passing & military service in Vietnam
Southwest Airlines abandoning their "Bags Fly Free" policy
Supersonic travel might return with 90-minute New York to London flights
NFLs expensive free agent signings and contract negotiations
The increasingly problematic behavior of parents at youth sporting events
Revelations about the strange world of extreme music performances
Air guitar championships featuring intense commentators and competitors
welcome to the Tuttle and Klein show going with some Stapleton sweetest strawberry wine.
Speaker 3:That guy's got the voice.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm telling you one of the best uh Super Bowl, uh uh National Anthem performances.
Speaker 3:Remember that a few years ago. Oh yeah, he murdered that. That was amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did Nice shirt pal.
Speaker 3:If I could take one of my own. Oh Zeppelin, yeah yeah, got my Zepp.
Speaker 2:Physical graffiti 50 years this year.
Speaker 3:Can you believe that?
Speaker 2:It was last week, I believe, the actual release date.
Speaker 3:Yep, I can't even believe that's 50 years because I remember um um some neighbors. It was one of one of my earlier memories, calf. This is you know.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm six years old yeah, yeah, right and one of my neighbors, uh was, was running down the uh street going I got it, I got it, I got it. He ran in the house and he, I got it, I got it, I got it, and he ran in the house and he cranked it, and just a bunch of us younger ones, you know, who loved Zeppelin, you know, we love the sound of Zeppelin. We're just sitting outside and he would actually have the window up and the screen, just the screen, so we could hear it. Cool, isn't that cool?
Speaker 3:That is very cool and I just I remember to this day when I heard in the light it, just it, it touched me, it like it, like did something to me.
Speaker 2:I was like god, that is awesome it was cashmere, was I mean it's cliche, right, because that's the biggest hit off of that album, right? I just love, I love that song.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, cashmere, he played that like a bunch of times in a row and Kev. This was on vinyl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I had it on vinyl. It was a two disc. Do you still have it? No, no, I gave away all my vinyl when we moved.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, because Audrey got a record player uh from uh her future, uh mother and father-in-law.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 3:And you know, she, she whipped out one of the first vinyls I ever owned on my own. You're not not, you know, not a hand-me-down, um, cheap trick. Buddha can, oh nice, and I was like put it on. Ain't that a shame? You know, with the, with the drum, or the drum intro and everything like that, yeah, ain't that a shame. My tears fall. I played that thousands because you know, I remember that this is my first record. Oh my god, it's mine, it's just me. I bought, you know it's mine, and you know I, I just I played that song for some reason, like thousands of times.
Speaker 2:So that was the first piece of recorded music you ever bought with your own money, with my own money. Yes, yeah, mine was the Beth 45 from Kiss. Was it Casablanca Records, buddy?
Speaker 3:Beth, I hear you calling and I can't come home right now. You know, one thing I'm into and I think I've told you this before so I didn't have it on my rabbit hole list for this week is I love watching reactions that people have when they first hear songs. You know, stairway to Heaven was a big one that I was into. Another one is Creep by Radiohead. When people first hear that song, tennessee whiskey, which I just did, you know a little piece of right there. And another one was beth, and you know nobody can nobody can believe. You know the younger generation cannot believe that came from the makeup. Uh, monsters, uh, yes, they're like I.
Speaker 2:I can't even believe this song is a kiss, though right, yeah, the same people that brought you detroit rock city.
Speaker 3:Call them, and dr love you know, yeah yeah, strutter and licking, I really like my limousine. You like the way the wheels roll, you like my seven inch leather heel and go and shoot to all of the shows. But do you love me?
Speaker 2:Yes, man, it's like we're at concert right now. Shut your mouth, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:I got to learn how to sing man. I just got to because I was watching the female reactions to Tennessee whiskey. Yeah, and they're just. I was like man, like man.
Speaker 2:I gotta learn how to sing man really does james hetfield really know how to sing?
Speaker 3:oh my god, and that was another one is uh, they were watching, uh, inner sandman from the moscow concert in 91 remember that that, yeah, incredible concert. And they're just like, oh my god, he's not the, he's not the best looking guy, but the way he just stands there and stalks and stuff like that, it's so cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he was. He's a great front man and he's actually gotten better singing over the years. But man, those first couple albums Kill Em All and Ride the Lightning, couldn't sing a lick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just got to be. I got to find three good musicians that are OK with me being kind of marginal in terms of the singing, but I got the stage presence. Okay with me being kind of marginal in terms of the singing, but I got the stage presence.
Speaker 2:I was just getting ready to say man, david Lee Roth was there because of his stage presence. You would have definitely have stage presence.
Speaker 3:Oh, I would, Kev, I would be pulling out all of the stops. Hell yeah, and you know, the crowd banter, the crowd work, that's my number one thing. The crowd work man, you know that.
Speaker 2:Exactly, it's an hour and a half long concert and they're only going to play three songs.
Speaker 3:You know Exactly Timmy's going to spill the rest, I know. And then, after the last song, here's my out, kev, here's my out. I came here for two reasons One to play my songs and two, to eat pussy. And now I'm all out of songs.
Speaker 2:Good night. Good night, oh my God, that's funny, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine just that? That's it. You know that'd be like a cool, like parody band. You know like spinal tap or something like that. Yeah, you know just a parody band just to give. We're just, we're just out here like like more making you laugh than entertaining you with music.
Speaker 2:That would just be a great exit right there. It would be phenomenal. Even if you weren't, even if you were trying to be a legitimate band, that would be a great. That'd be a great exit.
Speaker 3:Well, don't steal that, Cause. I thought about that when I was doing cardio. I was like, cause I'm having it's rumbling around in my head, man, I there, it's rumbling around in my head, man. There's things as you come to that turn in your life where it's like, hey man, how much do I have left? And I was like I have to. Just I did my comedy a year ago, stand-up comedy. That was great. Check that off the list. I loved it. It was a beautiful experience. I'm glad I did it. Now I just want to play in a band, man, yeah, and I want to be the lead singer.
Speaker 2:You should Very charismatic Great front person.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I can't sing dude.
Speaker 2:Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:Doesn't matter. Yeah, you're right, I mean Brian Johnson, ACDC. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, how hard is that?
Speaker 3:well, I, don't know, let's hear it. No, I I promise anybody that's listening to this uh episode right here right now. I will not sing for the rest of the time, I promise. I know a lot of people are just like oh, do I hit this button? Do I hit this button?
Speaker 2:yeah, they're hitting it now because they're not going to get any entertainment value. Great Way to go, tuttle Way to kill the show.
Speaker 3:I'm so sorry. Hey, Kev, I did not know and again I think we got to get into this. I'm completely off the grid, I don't watch news, I don't really do too much on social media at all and I had no idea that until this morning that you had a passing in the family. I'm so sorry man.
Speaker 2:Thanks, buddy. It's been a pretty rough last five days with the Klein-Snyder clan because my father-in-law died last week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I know you really revered him and had a, you know, a soft spot in your heart for him.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's a. Uh, he's a United States war hero. Uh, there's no question about it. Um, as a matter of fact, a guy that he served with at the frontline of Vietnam has become a major general with the United States Marine Corps, and I interviewed him because he wrote a book called darker than dark. Um, that talks about my father-in-law's heroic achievements over in Vietnam, and he said if Kenny Snyder wasn't on this planet, he wouldn't be on this planet because he saved so many lives.
Speaker 3:What kind of shit did he do? I mean, can you tell any stories of some of the things he did, or is that?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know, because he never really talked about it, but let me just tell you this, tim, he was a sniper for the United States Marine Corps in Vietnam, so I think you can deduce just simply by that. I know that half of his platoon was killed.
Speaker 3:No shit.
Speaker 2:He carried his best friend, his absolute best friend, carried him off of the battlefield in two pieces, split at the waist. Yep, yep.
Speaker 3:That's tough man.
Speaker 2:So but yeah, we, I saw him not this past Saturday but the Saturday before. So two Saturdays ago we saw him at the college hockey game the last one of the season. Trish texted him on Sunday got a reply. Texted him on Monday morning got a reply. Texted him Monday evening no reply. Talked to his brother every day on the phone who lives in Ohio Didn't get a return call. Brother didn't get a return call on Tuesday, didn't get a return call on Wednesday. So he called Springfield Police Department for a welfare check. And I had just gotten in the car from a run on Thursday morning and Trish had called three times and I was like oh no. So I called her and I'm like what's going on? And she's like I'm over at dad's house and they just did a welfare check and he's dead. But yeah, I mean it was. So he died probably Monday evening and he died in his favorite chair listening to the radio, beer in hand.
Speaker 3:Oh well, how bad is that?
Speaker 2:then, well, the police officers who responded first came back out and said we're very sorry, and you know, trish was like. Well, what do you think happened? And they said he did not suffer at all. There was no pain. To look on his face, there's no, he just it was a widow maker, wow Okay.
Speaker 2:It was a heart attack. Yeah, yeah, that's what they're, that's what they're thinking. Uh, mother-in-law doesn't want to do an autopsy. Uh, and the time has passed, he's already in a, he's already in a box. Uh, and we, we bury him, mom, today.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I'm so sorry, kev. I'm so sorry, but hey man. Oh yeah, I'm so sorry, kev. I'm so sorry, but hey man, how old was he?
Speaker 2:He was three days away from his 78th birthday. Man again for me, my sweet spot. If I can go, 77 to 83, that's all I want. Yeah, yeah. So and you know, in talking to his former platoon mate who became a major general, he got extra years man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:More than anybody over there. He got extra years, you know, and obviously you know we'll miss him. I get to be one of the people that eulogizes him at the funeral, but you know there will be things we miss for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I bet, and you'll, you'll, you'll nail that one, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:Oh, I already wrote it. You know, I already wrote it. So you know, is it gold? You got gold. Well, I I'm going to take a different angle than what probably his brother and what my brother and sister-in-law will do. I'm going to talk about the side of of Kenneth Paul Snyder that nobody saw, because he never wanted you to see it.
Speaker 3:Oh, cool, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So all right, all right, I love it, but the man the man's favorite word was fuck and oh no, no, no, seriously, dude, and I would count every like when there were conversations. I would count how many times, and the record was 27. In a three minute phone conversation Now, remember a three minute phone conversation the other person's talking about half of the time, so you're talking about 27 bucks in 90 seconds. That's impressive.
Speaker 3:That is very impressive. Yeah, right, I am. Uh, yeah, yeah, that that that's, that's three every 10 seconds man I know, and that was a light day well to to you, uh, mr snyder, fucking a, fucking a, fucking a. Yeah, um, all right, kevin, what? Um, since we're on it uh, you know me being left out of the. Oh, what did you? Fucking A? Fucking A? Yeah, all right, kev, since we're on it, you know me being left out of the. Oh, what did you have? Did you have something else?
Speaker 2:I know that you were going to talk about the things that you have missed. Did you hear? The big news this morning is that Southwest Airlines is now going to start charging for baggage.
Speaker 3:You're kidding.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 3:What got them there?
Speaker 2:Well, they're now owned by a private equity firm and they say that they're not being able to compete with the other bigs because they don't make 1.5 to $5 billion a year on baggage fees.
Speaker 3:Wow, okay. Well, I mean, that was a thing that distinguished them from others.
Speaker 2:Tim, they actually have bags. Fly free trademarked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, piss that out the window. You see how it is. You get new owners in. They fuck everything up.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the thing. And you're a you're a money guy. Internally. They've been talking about this for years internally and they said that internally they did a research study. They will make $1.5 billion off the baggage fees, but the people who are not going to fly them anymore, they will lose $1.8 billion. So they're actually going to lose what? 300 million? It's stupid, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's dumb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I don't understand.
Speaker 3:It just pisses everybody off. You got to be careful when you price things because once you go to a certain mark in terms of a price point, you lose X amount of business as your price goes up, and you should be able to know. You should have people in, you know some, some of the math guys in there, that will tell you with each dollar that we, we lose this much, and they should be able to find you the optimal price on something where you can make the most revenue.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, but they're saying now it it, it completely doesn't. There's no differentiation between Southwest and the other majors. So a lot of people who only flew Southwest for bags fly free. Now we'll start looking at the other airlines because of different schedules and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:Yep, there it is Uncool. Okay, what else is happening?
Speaker 2:In South Carolina a woman fell down a 16 foot well that was infested with snakes. Wow, Yep, how long was she down there. They're not saying how long it took to rescue her, but they actually had to manufacture a pulley system, the fire department and lower a fire rescue worker down and pull her up. And they actually have pictures of some of the snakes that the fire chief was very, very funny. Some of the snakes tried to help with the extraction of the woman. Their help was unneeded and they're beheaded.
Speaker 3:That's funny, were they poisonous snakes.
Speaker 2:I mean, did she get bit? It doesn't? I don't, I don't know. It doesn't look like they were poisonous. It looked like they were kind of just like black snakes and rat snakes and stuff, but just imagine. I mean, that's so Indiana Jones, doesn't it?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, first off, you fell into a well, second off, you're stuck in there with snakes. I mean, at that point you're like what else could happen to that? Right?
Speaker 2:That is so many people's worst nightmare. You're claustrophobic number one. You.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's, that's terrible. Ok, well, I mean nothing but sunshine and lollipops from her going forward, right.
Speaker 2:That's right. Did you see the viral video of the Virginia State High School track relay championships?
Speaker 3:No, but I'd heard, was there a fight or something like that?
Speaker 2:No, some girl goes to pass. A girl goes to pass on the outside and the girl on the inside raises her baton and strikes her in the head, knocks her out, gives her a concussion and a possible skull fracture. You're kidding?
Speaker 3:no, no, here's the video, right here just as kaylin is passing the other runner, the athlete swings her baton, striking kaylin now, that does not look accidental to me yeah, there there's some uh deep-seated stuff, are they, boyfriend? There's, usually it's a love triangle, is that you know?
Speaker 2:no it it was. Uh. Well, the girl who hit her hit the other girl says that, uh, it was completely inadvertent. The girl was passing too close to her, got in front of her, but when you are running a relay, your, your baton never goes above your shoulders, correct? Yes, this girl's baton went above her head. And then she strikes the other girl in the head.
Speaker 3:It's a bit much.
Speaker 2:A little bit. I'm not buying the accidental.
Speaker 3:No, no. After perusing right there, I'd have to say there is some kind of backstory that we don't know about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very true. And then I should have dovetailed this on the Southwest Airlines. We are now very close to having 90-minute flights from New York to London. Wow, yep, the son of Concorde last week actually broke the sound barrier and there was no sonic boom heard on the ground. You know, that's the whole problem. Yeah, yeah, is the sonic boom above. When it breaks the sound barrier, it reverberates down on the ground. So what they've been trying to do is get these supersonic speeds without the sonic boom registering on terra firma. Guess what it happened? Can you imagine that?
Speaker 3:I mean that's that's, that's nutty. So half hour from like, houston to New York or something like that.
Speaker 2:Maybe even under. I mean, you're talking about going across the Atlantic in 90 minutes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dude, I see this as a big cost savings for Southwest Airlines, because now they won't have to serve you shit cost savings for Southwest Airlines because now they won't have to serve you shit.
Speaker 2:You're right, there you go. Yeah motherfuckers those cheap bastards. But I'm imagining that tickets are going to be quite costly on something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but you're still going to have to pay extra for your fucking baggage. Yeah Right.
Speaker 2:But would they really need to be as costly? Because you're going to be able to do more flights per day, wouldn't you?
Speaker 3:Uh, kev, they'll figure out a way to make sure that it costs more money. Oh, of course. Yeah, you know how it is. You'll see oil prices drop like crazy, but it takes a long time for you to reflect that at the pump.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I still remember years ago when we had an oil shortage or the price of oil was higher or whatever, and then it dropped and I remember the oil companies going well, we're going to keep the gas prices the same because we want the consumer like used to it being high. We don't want to. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Fuck you. Yeah, no, the longer you keep it high and then you can drop it a little bit or like, oh wow, what a savings. But they've already, you know you're already paying more than what you would have if it would have been normal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, of course they have that executive meeting from yacht number seven, right.
Speaker 2:Fuck you.
Speaker 3:What else is happening? Kevin Kline.
Speaker 2:That's about all I mean. You saw all the free agent wheelings and dealings in the NFL right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'm aware of those. Again, it's just shocking. You know, at least as of now, the day after they opened it up, the Dallas Cowboys did nothing, they do nothing, not a thing. And you know, you got to give credit to, you know, teams like the Patriots and you know, and they're making moves to stock up. I mean, you've got to give credit. There are certain teams that are just like, hey, man, we're going to do something here.
Speaker 2:Do you think Seattle getting rid of Geno Smith and bringing in Sam Darnold isn't that kind of a wash? I didn't think either one of them were that great. Yeah, the reason they did that kev is gino was wanting that 45 to 50 mil dog range okay and they're just like well, no, we'll just get white gino and and pay like uh, you know uh 40 off of that do you, uh, do you find it crazy and kind of funny about the, about face that miles, garrett, did you know that was?
Speaker 3:that was so funny Cause I remember him. I was watching him on on radio row at the super bowl. He was going from show to show and he's. It's not about the money I want to win, it's not about the money at all. Please stop. And you know he, you know you turn around.
Speaker 2:Ah well, it's about money. Yes, became the, became the highest paid non-quarterback in nfl history, signing a 40 million dollar per year contract that uh will take him from cleveland to canton is what they're calling it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, uh, here's the thing yeah uh, which, by the way, is not that far of a drive. They're calling it yeah uh. Here's the thing. Yeah uh, which, by the way, is not that far of a drive. They're right, not at all. Yeah uh. Um, here's the thing with the uh, with the cleveland uh browns, what do the other 31 teams think of these motherfuckers? A few years ago they blew the market away and screwed everything up with the deshaun Watson ridiculous fiasco contract, right. And now you know, you got Jamar Chase in Cincinnati. He's pretty much promised that he was going to be the highest paid non quarterback in history. And you got Micah Parsons in Dallas and they're all going well. The market's been reset. You know the other. The other 31 teams probably just hate the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2:Oh well, they're probably not real happy with the Buffalo Bills either. What do they do? Well, they signed Josh Allen Six years, 330 mil, 250 of which guaranteed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, see, now here's where. And Kev, I've told you this for years and years and years Once they get this big bag, they just start to suck. They don't give a fuck anymore man.
Speaker 2:Well, my thing is has he ever won a championship?
Speaker 3:No, no, oh, he's an impressive player. He's got skills. But is he a winner? I mean, you know there are two quarterbacks that have every tool necessary, uh, but can't win the big one. Lamar jackson, josh allen, yep, and both of them are extraordinarily wealthy men oh, they're the two highest paid quarterbacks in the league I, I think kevin here.
Speaker 3:Here's what I think it should be. You know, like if, if the number now is 60 million a year, here's what they should do is okay, we're going to keep the quarterback salaries in about the $30 million a year range, the top 10, 12 of you, and then whoever wins the Super Bowl gets the other 30 million.
Speaker 2:But remember and I think about this quite often when I see these staggering contract owners aren't going to lose money.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no. The TV revenues are off the charts. Kev and the Players Association, the union they've got a deal where they get an X percent, the players get X percent of the revenue, and that's why, when you see these salaries skyrocketing, it just shows how much money the NFL is making.
Speaker 2:Exactly that's what I was going for. That's what I was getting ready to say. I'm like owners don't lose money, they're shrewd business people. And when you I saw a breakdown Tim the least wealthiest owner in all of NFL football is liquid 900 million.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, 900 million. Yeah, you know, once you own a football team, I mean it appreciates so much every single year that there's nothing really you can do to fuck it up and lose money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why Tom Brady is a is an owner now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just met. Your bottom line just explodes and continues to go up and up and up. I mean, the only way that you can do better than that is to be a a Congressman that does inside information. You fucking criminals. Every one of you are a fucking criminal.
Speaker 2:You know, that kind of leads me to my top three this week.
Speaker 1:Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Klein's top three.
Speaker 2:Top three industries, companies or people that you absolutely hate.
Speaker 3:I mean, you know me, the axis of evil. I mean the axis of evil who are trying to destroy civilization, the upper echelon billionaires not all of them, but most of them. You know Soros and everything like that. I fucking hate Alex Soros, george Soros, those are Bill Gates, these are evil motherfuckers with nefarious agendas. Can't stand them. I don't know, I can't say that I would even be able to maintain control if I was ever in the same room with them. Really, I would go off. I would just go off, you fucking evil. Because, kev, I don't go by mainstream media. I read what these people write. I read the transcripts of the things that they say in interviews and they talk very openly about how we are a virus and they're into eugenics and just want us gone and want us under control. Fuck you guys.
Speaker 2:You billionaire fucks Do you think they have security? They have to dude. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
Speaker 3:They have to. They put themselves out there too much and they've been exposed.
Speaker 2:I mean one of the nicest people walking the planet, and we can say this unequivocally because we've met her several times. Taylor Swift has security.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you have, you have to. I mean, you got it. Yeah, without a doubt, number two, kev. I would probably have to say you know, I just said the mainstream media. I would probably have to say, you know, I just said it mainstream media. Okay, the propaganda is just ridiculous. I mean, just shock the world one time and speak the truth. You know, forget about what's written on the teleprompter that you all just regurgitate. You know the narrative that you all regurgitate and, just for one time, shoot it straight with the people. You've been lying so fucking long, every single day. I don't even think they're capable of doing it.
Speaker 2:I don't think they know what's true and what's not anymore.
Speaker 3:They just I mean it's just ridiculous. I mean it's you know, and Kev, I know a lot of people like, well, tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline. For nearly 30 years you two were part of the media too. Yeah, that's why we know.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:That's how we know. It's all bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, and number three.
Speaker 3:What was the top three? Again, what was the question?
Speaker 2:Industries, companies or people you hate.
Speaker 3:Groups of of people, not individuals let me see billionaires with nefarious agendas.
Speaker 2:Mainstream oh shit, chicago bears because he's a packer fan yeah, his chicago bears can fuck off but wouldn't you put also Minnesota and Detroit in there?
Speaker 3:not as much as the Bears, and that's I. You know, I obviously they're in the division and you know their rivals and everything like that, but I I don't know what it is Kev, ever since I was a little kid in the in the 70s, you know, being a Packers fan, I mean just something about the bears, you know, and that that probably is from my dad, that that probably you know. He just I don't like the bears.
Speaker 2:And it could also be longevity of teams, because there's some of there are two of the originals, you know. I mean you talk about Detroit and you talk about Minnesota. I think they were add on teams, yeah.
Speaker 3:Now, that being said, kev, I think it's good for the NFL if they don't suck. Oh, absolutely yeah, I would like to see them more competitive. You know, I'd like them to maybe even flip situations with Detroit or Minnesota where they're more successful. You know, yeah, because it's better for the NFL, better for the game if they, if they don't suck well, they have themselves a new coach and, uh, ben johnson, I believe, is the new coach.
Speaker 2:He was the offensive coordinator for detroit. They say he's going to work really, really well with caleb williams, their quarterback. So who knows?
Speaker 3:yeah, not only that, though, but I don't know if you've seen the maneuvers that they've done over the past week, but they've gotten some serious offensive line help.
Speaker 2:Well, they got Joe Tooney from the from the Chiefs.
Speaker 3:They got two others too. I can't remember the specifics on it, but they're loading up on the line because they know that with Caleb they and, and, and Johnson. Ben Johnson will teach Caleb hey man, two and a half seconds, throw the fucking ball. I mean that that. That's the biggest thing in the NFL for a quarterback. Is you're? You're in shotgun calf, and then from shotgun, you take your three step back by the time you plant your foot on that third step. The ball's got to go somewhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you don't got time. That's that. That's how Brady did it, that's how Manning did it and you know, uh, they also were good at um going down. You know, after that, you know getting in the fetal position, protecting yourself so you don't get injured, right? I mean, I, I've been, I've been really studying uh, manning and uh and and Brady and they were just the best at it. You know, two and a half seconds ball's gone. I'm getting uh it. You know two and a half seconds ball's gone. I'm getting uh. You know they're coming in on me. The pocket is muddy and everything. I'm just gonna go down.
Speaker 2:They don't take big hits and you know, the interesting thing about both of those players is all that information that they're gathering is not on the playing field, it's in the, it's in the film room oh, totally they, they.
Speaker 3:they know when they step up to the line of scrimmage and they look at the coverage, they know their primary guy. And the funny thing is like, say, it's the guy on the right that's going to run a post pattern, they'll actually be looking left to throw the safety off.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 3:You know they'll throw the safety off by looking left the whole time and the last second. You know two and a half seconds, boom, they go right. There you go, and Benson will teach uh caleb that. And they're loading up on the offensive line and kevin, mark my words right here their first pick in the draft will be ashton genti, the near heisman trophy winning running back from uh idaho state. And they'll be scary because he would he kevin? I don't know if you watched ashton gentry or even know who I'm talking about right now.
Speaker 2:I don't.
Speaker 3:He is Marshawn Lynch, the next incarnation of it, oh wow.
Speaker 2:Marshawn Lynch could play.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So the Bears scare me. Now they scare me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean look what we saw this year with Philadelphia. They go out and get Saquon Barkley who runs for 2,000-plus yards and I mean you just take a lot of pressure off your quarterback.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that's you know, it's so funny, we're going to go from air raid, we're going to go. You know the cycle is now okay running game and defense, running game and defense. And that's from Philadelphia, the success from Philadelphia. And you look at all the top teams, they all had running games Yep that's true. It's now the really top teams had running games and defense.
Speaker 2:Well, defense wins you championships.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yes, it does.
Speaker 3:No, Kev, it's control of the line of scrimmage on both sides that wins you championships.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 3:And that's how I would always be as a general. You know me, Kev. I've told you this before If I was a general manager, I would never pay the big contract. I'd be like, oh, he's squawking that. He wants, you know, five years, 250 million. Well, what can we get for him?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:Let's try to get two good players right now and three draft picks and send them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, Timmy's always subscribed to the kind of Bill Belichick method of general managing. Get rid of them during their peak.
Speaker 3:Yeah, get what you can for them, continuously reload, and you never have to eat those big contracts and you're always getting new prospects and new players in Young blood. That's what I would do.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's what I would. I would never pay top of the market Kev, never, no.
Speaker 2:That's what you would. You would have more money than the rest of them.
Speaker 3:Retails are for pussies.
Speaker 2:Retail is for pussies, is that?
Speaker 3:a Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross line. No, I just threw that right in. All right, what are your top?
Speaker 2:three Kev. My top three the concert industry. Fucking fees. What kind of a fee can you incur by sending me an email with my tickets in it?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's that's greed, that's bullshit. How much? How much is it now? Do I even want to know?
Speaker 2:oh well, uh well, concert tickets in and of themselves just face value are outrageous, you know, I mean, I wanted to go see, uh, I wanted to go see, uh, nine inch nails in denver, 215 bucks, and that's not even for prime seats. Yeah, and then on top of that you're probably going to get socked for about $30 worth of fees, a handling fee, a ticketing fee for what An email?
Speaker 3:That's just so. I know that's terrible Dicks. How many fucking yachts do you need?
Speaker 2:Again, jeff. Again you're reverting back to my other one, the billionaires. Yeah Well, didn't Ticketmaster had to pay a hefty civil lawsuit fee for their fees and stuff like that? I don't see any of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let me tell you and again, we've talked about this in the past If we ever go post-apocalypse, have civil unrest and go post-apocalypse situation, if you are a ticket master executive, do not identify yourself to the other people Again, you will be barbecued that evening.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, Insurance agents, insurance companies would be next in line for me. They're taking your money and not paying your. You know what I'm saying. You know you have a car accident and they're trying any way, shape or form, not to pay what you've paid into them.
Speaker 3:No, no, but they're going to pay Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, and you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I remember that you know I was goofing, you know, back when I had, uh, uh, what is it? The hurricane? What was that? What was the last hurricane we had? I can't even remember, uh, and you know I had the tornado outside of our place in east bernard and they were getting a little twitchy about it and I was just like you're paying fucking aaron rogers, you know to do commercials, motherfuckers, you better come up with a check.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:And I think they set up word. You know that this guy's going to talk shit about us on the radio. Let's cut him a check, because they did. Yeah, they took care of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, your local agent took care of it.
Speaker 3:But they were getting a little squirrely about it. Man, of course, yeah, yeah, because that's their job. Their job is what can we not pay?
Speaker 2:That's right, so we can make sure that Patrick Mahomes doesn't live in squalor. Yeah, yeah, he's got some worries there. $500 million.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Now who else you?
Speaker 2:got Kev what we originally started talking about the airline industries. I mean, come on man, how many different ways do you want to screw your customer?
Speaker 3:I know Kev. It just reminds me of why are we not Jetsons yet and have our own little flying vehicles.
Speaker 2:Well, probably because the airline industries are so rich that they quash it.
Speaker 3:That and Kev. I get a look at my neighbors sometimes and I always sometimes think do I want that motherfucker having a flying car?
Speaker 2:No, but you know why Texas doesn't have legalized gambling, don't you?
Speaker 3:Because other states lobby our own legislators to make sure that the money stays in Louisiana and Oklahoma, yeah, yeah. Our own Texas state. Politicians are fucking corrupt, pieces of shit.
Speaker 2:There you go, yep.
Speaker 3:That's why you don't have it, because Louisiana and Oklahoma pay so much money to keep it out of Texas is a legislator in state of Texas that receives a penny from an outside state entity that fucks Texans should immediately just be run out of the state Gone.
Speaker 2:It is very anti-Texan on many levels.
Speaker 3:You sold yourself, you sold out. You're a piece of shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's the vibe been in Houston Since the passing of Sylvester Turner? I didn't even know he died.
Speaker 3:Oh, you didn't. No, sylvester Turner died.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the day after the Joint speech to Congress. What. Yeah, he was a senator. He took over Sheila Jackson Lee. I didn't know that. Yeah, sylvester died last week. Wow, 76, 77 years old, I think no shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3:No, he wasn't a senator, he was Congress.
Speaker 2:Congress. Okay, yeah, but he took Sheila Jackson Lee's chair.
Speaker 3:I had no idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I had no idea, Gosh. The thing I remember most about Sylvester Turner is his love for the fireman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he was a big backer of the fireman.
Speaker 3:That and Kev. You remember, like three weeks into COVID, back in 2020, we had him on the phone and he was talking about the mask mandate. And I said to him Mr Mayor, be honest, you continue with this mask mandate because you've seen us in person and want radio people wearing masks everywhere they go.
Speaker 2:And he laughed his ass off. Yeah, he did yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, I did not know that. So who's going to be the congressperson right now?
Speaker 2:That I don't know. I don't know, I don't know if they have to appoint somebody or if they have to elect somebody. I do not know.
Speaker 3:I think somebody appoints somebody or something like that. So that's your three, right? That's no, I think that I think somebody appoints somebody or something like that. So yeah, so that's your three.
Speaker 2:right, that's my three, sir, that is my three.
Speaker 3:Hey, I got to tell you this and I know you're tight with your father-in-law's funeral, so if I'm running long, just cut me off, ok no, no, no, we're good, we're good. I had a neighbor that was cracking up at last week's episode and I just wanted to tell you about it.
Speaker 2:It was a funny episode, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, a bunch of great stuff, including he was laughing because you know he's a former Marine, okay, and he was laughing at, you know, the drill instructors trying to teach you how to shoot. And he said, he said Timmy, he said the visual in my head as I'm listening to this is Kevin Klein, you know, being taught by Marine drill instructors and specialists how to shoot. He just thought of like a Monty Python, like skit.
Speaker 2:It almost was.
Speaker 3:He just sees Kevin. He actually, like, shoots a drill instructor. Oh, I'm sorry I shot you, I've killed another and the drill instructor I'm not dead yet. Just wait a moment. I suck so bad. Yeah, he just had that visual of him and I were riffing about how funny that would be. I suck so bad. Yeah, he just had that visual of him and I were riffing about how funny that would be. A Kevin Kline, monty Python learning how to shoot skit.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, when my father-in-law came back from Vietnam, he became a marksman instructor at Parris Island.
Speaker 3:Well, wait a minute. And that doesn't make sense to me, Kev, because here he's your father-in-law, and even at that time, if I remember correctly, this was what? 2002 that we were at Parris Island somewhere around there, and you had been married to Trish at that time for at least six years. How come he had?
Speaker 2:never taught you how to shoot. He never knew. I didn't know how.
Speaker 3:Exactly, it's shocking, you know it's shocking, that somebody's never held a firearm in their hand. Don't know, I don't know. It's just weird, it was weird.
Speaker 2:Oh, when we got back from Paris Island, the US Marine Recruit Depot, and he found out that I couldn't hit a target, he said he was going to teach me how to shoot. So that Christmas when we came home he took me out back and gave me a shotgun and said hit the barn. And I missed it with a fucking shotgun.
Speaker 3:You missed the barn with a shotgun. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2:What did you do? Did you pull up or something like that? I anticipate the kick, okay, you can't do that.
Speaker 3:No, but he was so pissed off, oh my god, did you. And then did you do like what, uh, what the uh police academy uh guy did, and just hand it back to the instructor. I'm done, I quit.
Speaker 2:no, I said uh, he said I don't even know why I let you marry my daughter and I said, well, please don't get it in an old sir.
Speaker 3:Yeah, jesus man. And again, I know a lot of people are listening right now and go. Well, how does Kevin protect his wife? If there's ever a home invader, she will do the protecting.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's the one that answers the door. Oh yeah, All the time. Yeah, that's the doorbell honey, go get it.
Speaker 3:Does she shoot at all?
Speaker 2:She can shoot. She, we don't. She doesn't, but she can. Yeah, no, that was two things that my father-in-law demanded that the kids know an instrument and how to protect themselves with weaponry?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the reason you don't have a gun in the house is because Kevin is bipolar and he would just try to shoot himself like all the time. I mean, she would literally have to be walking. You know, can't leave you alone in a room for two seconds. Are you trying to shoot yourself again, honey, stop it.
Speaker 2:I don't know where she put the knives now, yeah.
Speaker 3:Put that clock away. Everything's okay. Stop. We've got neighbors coming over for the cookout and I do not want to be cleaning the carpet of your blood, so stop. Okay, Maybe later.
Speaker 2:This too shall pass.
Speaker 3:This too shall pass. Exactly. That's funny as shit.
Speaker 3:I thought you'd get a kick out of that, though Him and I were riffing on a monique python skit yeah, that's great oh yeah, kev, um, I, I wanted to tell you this, I I I had when, back in the 90s, before I even met you and before you know, uh, you know, I was living on my own in Nashville for a couple of years and I actually umpired baseball, okay, and I kind of rather enjoyed it. I liked it, yeah. So I was thinking about umpiring Little League again, nice and I actually reached out to the league down the road here and I went to meet with the director of umpiring Very cool and I decided immediately that I would not be umpiring. Why is that? Because while I'm out there at the fields talking to the director of of umpiring, I'm noticing the parents and kev. They were so negative and so angry and just so out of line. I mean, it's actually 10 times worse now than it was 15 years ago when audrey was, you know, playing softball at Rose rich.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3:I I. I just I was like you, fucking people. You and it just reminded me of what I've told you in the past is coaching or umpiring. Baseball or softball would be the greatest job in the world If it weren't for the fucking parents.
Speaker 2:That's what teachers say to. Teaching would be one of the most enjoyable career and professions If it weren't for the parents.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean and this is coming from me there were, there are times that I was a little bit out of line and I have some regrets about it, but I was never as bad as what I saw on the field last week. It was just, it's just, it's just bad. You know you're, you're.
Speaker 3:Here's the thing Kev, your kid is more likely 50 to 100% less talented than you fucking think they are. You know you automatically have this thing where you think they're they're not, cause you know I'm watching a kid and he, you know he's, he's struggling going left, struggling going right. If he gets a ground ball straight to him, he's fine, but you know he has struggle moving and you know the the, the coach, you know, puts them in the outfield after watching that for a while at second base and I just hear the mom go Billy is just, he's not getting the chance here. This is just terrible. The coach is overlooking him and I'm just like, oh, and that was just one of many different things that I saw that. I'm just like, yeah, I've had the director of umpire, he's emailed me over the last and I just I told him I can't do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, here's the thing too. Uh, parents, if you do do that, you are probably taking at least 75% of the joy out of the game for the kid.
Speaker 3:Your kid picks up on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Your kid picks up on that. Yeah, I it was. It was sad because I, I, I liked being at the ball ballpark and I enjoyed being an umpire and I actually enjoyed, you know, at least within the team of coaching back in the day. But the bad news, kev, I don't think I'll ever ever coach or umpire youth sports again. I won't do it.
Speaker 2:That's a shame, because you and I both like to teach uh kids how to play, you know, and and it is why isn't my son getting to play enough? Why is he sitting at the bench during for three innings? Well, because everybody else is playing, yeah yeah, it's only so many, yeah, only so many players you can get on the field because, because your kid, it doesn't really want to be here.
Speaker 3:He would rather be home playing video games. But he's here because you want him here. That's right, anyway. The good news, though, is I feel so much better concerning any of the terrorists that may have come over the border during the Biden administration. Well, how so and why? I feel like little league moms would mop them up. Hey, hey, hey, muhammad, your diabolical plan may have worked until you ran into a group of moms who have just been told that their little league sons didn't make all stars this year, who have just been told that their little league sons didn't make all-stars this year, you're done.
Speaker 2:That's an angry lot right there, kev Indeed, indeed. Well, dude, how about what happened in Dallas just last week at the National Cheerleading Competition Championships?
Speaker 3:Wait a minute. Are we having more Texas cheerleader problems? I remember that was a big deal 20, 30 years ago. Is that still a thing? Parents fighting each other what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, at a cheerleading competition, how does this happen? You're spreading cheer and they're fighting Cheer.
Speaker 3:Not jeer, cheer, not jeer.
Speaker 2:Yes, not fear Cheer yeah, they didn't get the memo man do we know what spurred this on what happened? I don't. I just saw the footage. Well, it had to be evacuated, the place had to be evacuated and they thought there were shots fired, but it wasn't. It was just parents fighting. Are you serious if you have to evacuate a competition because of fighting?
Speaker 3:I, I don't understand that. I, I just don't. I. Where's the argument? Where's the argument? There is, they can throw my little girl higher. Why aren't they throwing her? Oh, my god, it's so obvious that angie has put on some pounds. They're not getting the launch that they used to. I mean, what is going on, man? How is there even an issue?
Speaker 2:I don't know, because people live. Parents live vicariously through their kids. Yeah, you know, a lot of them do. My dad did it, son of a gun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, damn it. I'm so sorry, kid. Hey, do we have time? Can we talk about rabbit holes? Do we have time? Can we talk about rabbit?
Speaker 2:holes. Do we have time? Yeah, because I do have a cool rabbit hole, but I also have a story I want to share with you.
Speaker 3:Please start with the story.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, last week I was approached by a musician friend of mine, james Baker from Rorschach Test, and he wanted to do something for March, which is National Women's History Month, and so he thought it would be cool if I interviewed the bass player for Rorschach Test, who's a female, and his wife, and also Jen, the lead singer from Jenna Torturers, which is a band that I've seen three times Now I'll see you four times in April to talk about women in heavy metal music. It's cool, okay, but I so I interviewed them and it's it actually posted on the fuzzy mic, uh, just today. Um, and I asked Jen, because Jenna torturers came about because they wanted to do genital torture, okay, and that's, and she goes. Hey, my name's Jen. So I thought Jenna torturers, that'd be a cool.
Speaker 2:And so they literally do piercings and bondage and stuff like that on stage. And I said what's the craziest thing that ever happened to you on stage? And she goes. Well, it didn't happen to me. She said the CEO of the company whose scalpels and needles we use on stage came to one of our shows in a rubber suit with a rubber kilt on, and he came up to the stage and he wanted to have scrotal inflation done to him. I'm like what she's like? Yeah, you know, we put a needle in his ball sack and then we inflated it to the size of a volleyball.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 2:I know right, and he's walking around at the show with a volleyball size scrotum in between his legs underneath his rubber kilt.
Speaker 3:This is a bizarre world that I just can't comprehend.
Speaker 2:I can't either, and I've been to three of their shows and I've seen shit that they do on stage and I just can't see a guy walking up there and putting a needle in his nutsack and then expanding it to the size of a volleyball. Yeah, yeah, I uh, if you want to hear more about that? Go to the fuzzy mic.
Speaker 3:Oh, you, do you have this. Do you have this? Uh, do we have a new episode of fuzzy mic?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just this one-off episode because I, you know, I they wanted me to share it on Facebook and we do talk a little bit about mental health. Uh, but yeah, and we do talk a little bit about mental health. But yeah, I mean, you're ball sack inflated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm very perplexed for two reasons in regards to that story. One is the inflation of the scrotum. Two is that March has been declared National Women's Month.
Speaker 2:National Women's History Month, yeah declared national women's month.
Speaker 3:National women's history month. Yeah, okay, I thought it was just women's, because I was gonna say man, I got news for you every fucking month is national women's month that's so true, trust me.
Speaker 2:but how about that, you know, like, because she, she made it a point to say he's the CEO of the company and I'm like man, you know, and and when you find out about who goes to uh, bdsm, uh practitioners and stuff, it is a lot of times leaders of companies and leaders of institutions.
Speaker 3:Definitely Kev. I mean uh, the, the, the. You gotta remember, remember most of the CEOs, leaders of companies, you know, government leaders, everything like that. They're sociopaths with some cray cray in them.
Speaker 2:Well, what Jen said is that the majority of them come in because they're so tired of being said yes to and they're so tired of just lording over people that they want to find out what it's like for people to push back on them ah, I got it okay you know, yeah, they need, they need some kind something to offset it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that was like the mood, the uh, the tv show billions, um, where giamatti, paul giamatti, great, great.
Speaker 2:Love him.
Speaker 3:His character was just this over-top prosecutor, just a total fucking dick. You know, control freak over the top. But he was BDSM and he liked to be pushed around.
Speaker 2:There you go. Yeah, but at what point does the CEO say you know what? I've lorded over so many people? I think as retribution, I should have air pushed into my balls. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Wait, how can I profit off of this? I know We'll charge anybody with big balls extra for baggage.
Speaker 2:Well, it is extra baggage, it's a sack.
Speaker 3:All right, tell me about. Let's go into rabbit holes. Rabbit hole of the week.
Speaker 2:You were talking about being a front man for a band earlier in this episode. Well, timmy, I found the competition for you. It was on ESPN Ocho. Okay yeah, tim, I watched three hours of it in this episode. Well, timmy, I found the competition for you, it was on espn ocho okay, yeah, tim, I watched three hours of it fucking air guitar world championships.
Speaker 3:It's so bad dude oh, I, I, kev, I, I. I'm afraid to put that on because I won't be able to stop. It's just so fucking lame.
Speaker 2:It really is man.
Speaker 3:I mean to me anybody doing air guitar for more than I mean. If you do it, you know, just because you're riffing with a song. If you do it for a few seconds, that's one thing. If you're up there performing any more than half of a song, you're a fucking tool you gotta watch it, though, because you gotta hear the commentators. It's it's so best in show so the commentators, they're in on it, they have to be in on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have to be. They're so they're. It's so deadpan in there. Oh my gosh, I've never seen an air guitar being thrown up into the air flip like that and caught.
Speaker 3:Yeah I'm so glad that he's wearing the wristbands, because obviously the sweat would just be destroying his ability to play that axe dude that is, they do wear sweatpants and stuff and they do commentate on it. Oh my, God, that's so funny.
Speaker 2:You have to watch it.
Speaker 3:Okay, I will, I will. What is that? Uh, I just, I just could YouTube, uh, air guitar contest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, air guitar. National championships or world championships, they have them every year. The world championships are held over in Finland.
Speaker 3:I fucking love that man, okay, I'm into it. Over in finland. I fucking love that man, okay, I'm into it. Um, I don't know about three hours though, kev. After about two hours you're like, hey man, you go look in the mirror in the bathroom and go do I have my life together?
Speaker 3:it's addictive brother okay, um, kev, I crawled down a rabbit hole and, um, it's kind of kind of surprising that I did this again, because I was in this rabbit hole when I was in college. When I was in college, I read the book Helter Skelter at least four or five times. That, of course, is about the Manson family and the Tate-LaBianca murders as written by Vincent Bugliosi, the district attorney that got the conviction on Charles Manson and the rest of the family in Los Angeles late 60s, early 70s. And the reason, kev, I went down the rabbit hole is because I watched this documentary that I didn't even know was out there. It's a documentary called Manson and it's told from Linda Kasabian's point of view.
Speaker 3:Now, she, of course, was a star witness, she was there both nights, she didn't participate in any of the murders. She was either, you know, driving or keeping lookout or outside or whatever. But it was told basically play by play and that's an angle that we never really got is the play by play, you know, minute by minute, both nights, which I was just fascinated by. So I got into that and then, you know, I started, okay, I got to look up more what else you know, you know, since my college days is updated and some of it is really crazy, like Tom O'Neill, a journalist wrote a book about it you know did an updated book, you know, probably about 15 years ago and he interviewed Bugliosi and everybody else like that and some of the stuff he came up with you know, first off coming up with and confirming that Charles Manson was a CIA MKUltra guy.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was Charles Manson would do something to go to jail. This is in the years leading up to the Manson murders, the Tate-LaBianca murders. He would go to jail and then he's always being let out because CIA would come in and say the Tate-LaBianca murders, he would go to jail. And then he's always being let out Because you know, cia would come in and say, yeah, this guy's a subject, test subject, let him out. You know, and Tom O'Neill interviewed all of these wardens and district attorneys and everything like that, just saying hey, it's above our pay grade. You know, the man wants Charles Manson out in the streets. So he kept, he kept being let out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had a lengthy rap sheet, no question about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he's constantly just let out Wow, that's one thing. Another thing and this Boogaloo OC got comfortable with Tom O'Neill and, and you know, didn't realize that, you know, forgot that they were recording and he basically uh said that. And did you ever hear about this yourself? That the police were going through, uh, roman polanski and sharon tate's place. You know, in the days after the murders they were going through everything you know, looking for some clues and everything like that. And roman polanski, sharon tate's wife, of course, a big time director, well-known director had some, some films, some movies that they watched. Every one of them and one of them is is Polanski, is recording his wife, sharon Tate, being unwillingly raped by two other guys.
Speaker 2:Well, he was in exile for the longest time for child pornography, wasn't he?
Speaker 3:Well, no, he had sex with a 13-year-old yeah that's it.
Speaker 2:That's it. I knew he had a child.
Speaker 3:Yeah he can't come to America because he escaped prosecution on that. As soon as anybody in the United States knows he's there, he will be arrested and sent to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So yeah, isn't that crazy did you ever hear about that? No, no, but that's.
Speaker 3:That's warped man man, is that crazy or what that? That that uh, you know, polanski was just that crazy that that nutty. So, initially, and you know, until a couple months later when they started, uh, you know, putting it together from sadie hawkins in jail. You know, uh, not sadie hawkins, sadie uh atkins, susan atkins, susan atkins, you know she that's what broke the case open and she was bragging inside of uh women's jail. Uh, and somebody just went to somebody and said the uh, this lady said she's the one that killed sharonate.
Speaker 2:And she was.
Speaker 3:But until that broke three or four months after the murders they were thinking Polanski, because he was just such a freak and a creep.
Speaker 2:So in this documentary then, with Manson being CIA, was Helter Skelter his idea, or was it the CIA's idea that he was just trying to enact?
Speaker 3:Well, again, all the notes from the CIA. They're not there and they deny any of it.
Speaker 2:Because Helter Skelter was supposed to be a race war.
Speaker 3:I have. The whole Helter Skelter thing is a subterfuge. It's bullshit. And Bugliosi was going to sue O'Neill because he was coming to that conclusion. You know he was going to say, don't, do not put this in your book, I will sue you to and wrote a 38 page Fuck you to him and his publisher saying he's going to sue everything moving If certain things are in the book which they just said. Well, fuck you, old man, we're putting in the book.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, fuck you, old man, we're putting in the book. Oh, wow, yeah, uh, because we got it on. You know you, we were we got your recorded voice, dude.
Speaker 2:Hey, did you know that? Uh, because I just read this this morning that manson, when he died, uh, there was a battle over his body, so they put it on ice for like 18 months yeah, yeah, I heard about that. That's crazy who would want that?
Speaker 3:I don't know, man. I mean, it's so weird If you're, it's almost like you have to make plans to make sure shit is done right, If you're like in a weird position in life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Uh huh. My father in law made plans years ago that will be enacted today.
Speaker 3:What kind of plans? What do you? What's he doing?
Speaker 2:No, no funeral, you know, no service. Basically, we're all meeting over at the funeral parlor. He's already been put in a box. He did not want to be embalmed. We take him over to the Veterans Cemetery. Here we're being escorted by the Patriot Guard riders and then we'll have a 15-minute session there there, and then everybody's going out for drinks afterwards.
Speaker 3:That's perfect.
Speaker 2:That's what he wanted no pictures, no pictures. No open casket. No embalming, no flowers. Because, as he said, what the fuck am I going to do with flowers? I'm fucking gone, Plus I never liked them anyway.
Speaker 3:You got to water them and you got to trim them. Fuck that.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, that's what's happening All right?
Speaker 3:Well, kev, I think it's time. Yeah, you got to get going and I got to try to find a profitable trade here.
Speaker 2:I hope you do.
Speaker 3:Let's go ahead and wrap this up right now. I've been great talking to you. Please do me a favor, since I'm just learning about it this morning. Send on my condolences to Trish. I feel awful. That's terrible. I didn't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, we didn't tell a whole lot of people and it's not like I'm going to call you and go. Oh, hey, guess what happened. Hey, are you having a good day?
Speaker 3:Well, guess what? My father-in-law's dead.
Speaker 2:You know well, when I got the news from Trish, she was bawling on the other end of the phone and I mean, I was sad about my father-in-law, obviously, but I just felt helpless. I just called my mom and I was bawling. I'm like I don't know what to do, cause Trish is the hard one in the family, you know, she's. She's the one that props me up all the time, and here I am the one having to prop her up and I'm like I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah it's, it's a tough situation and and and let me tell you this, kev, do not feel bad whatsoever for telling me, not not telling me about it. We have this thing, you and I, where we just don't tell each other when somebody dies, we don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 3:All right, man, I got to run. Have a good one, brother.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle and Klein show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle and Klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
