Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #32: Birthday Nostalgia, Rowdy Parties, and Appalachian Adventures with Tuttle & Kline
As Tuttle celebrates his birthday, we're taking a hilarious jaunt down memory lane, recounting our wild early days together. Plus, we get a chuckle out of the quirky social norms of Facebook birthday wishes and question the effectiveness of TSA signs that warn against guns and explosives — because let's be honest, who needs reminding?
Things get a bit rowdy as we swap stories about unpredictable bachelorette parties and dive into some juicy celebrity scandal gossip? We even revisit a spring break escapade that had more twists and turns than we'd ever admit. Switching gears, we break down the NFL's business dynamics and reflect on Tom Brady's new role in sports commentary, all while sharing our own professional ups and downs.
Tim's brother, Todd joins us fresh off of his 2,200-mile hike of the Appalachian Trail. Todd’s stories of conquering treacherous terrains, dealing with bears, and sustaining injuries are as inspiring as they are harrowing. Our conversation with Todd leads us to a reflective space, discussing the importance of living in the present and sharing our own "never again" moments.
We wrap things up by exploring daring stunts, from Ultimate Dick Kicking Championships to the legendary feats of stuntman Dar Robinson. Buckle up for an episode packed with laughter, reflection, and a healthy dose of adrenaline!
Welcome to the Tuttle Cline Show, that's the Cline.
Speaker 2:There's the birthday boy. It's my birthday. Yes, it is. We were texting back and forth about that earlier this morning. I still remember when Beck played your birthday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, beck. For those of you who don't know who Beck is loser in that song. I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?
Speaker 2:You and I have always been partial to Devil's Haircut, though.
Speaker 3:Got a devil's haircut in my life Got a devil's haircut in my life, Kev, that was back in the day. We just started doing morning radio that year 1996. And on my birthday that year Beck was playing 328 Performance Hall, Nashville, Tennessee. Kevin Kline and I were your morning hosts on Thunder 94, Nashville's new rock station, Broadcast from the 23rd floor of the LNC Tower. We followed Adam Dredd.
Speaker 2:That's right. He moved over to Lightning 100.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and Randy.
Speaker 2:Yep Randy and Little Round Dude.
Speaker 3:Little Round, dude Yep. Those were the days, man. Those were the days. That's half my life ago.
Speaker 2:It is half your life ago. Yeah, we were talking about that this morning. You've known me half your life. I'm a poor bastard.
Speaker 3:I'm a poor bastard. You know the funny new phenomenon about birthdays Kev is you go to your Facebook and you know people that you really don't know at all or well at all. Wishing you a happy birthday yeah. It's a little awkward.
Speaker 3:It's a little awkward, it is a little awkward, because don't you feel like you have to respond oh, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll do a like or something like that on every one of them. Yeah, but uh, you know it's I. I sometimes wonder if it's just me, because I'm not really good at remembering people I know you never were really. And I'm just like I, you know I, I, I want, I, I I fear engaging with people because in case I don't know them and have a history with them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know exactly what you're saying, but you know, in in your case, you have remained very active on social media, uh, even after the radio career, and so I think a lot of those folks were listeners. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And we may never have met them. Yeah, which we appreciate the heck out of you Absolutely. Thank you very much. Hey, kevin, I noticed something. There was some footage like a news report from inside of an airport over by TSA, and I'm wondering if this sign is really necessary. And you see it every time, but you don't really think about it when you see it.
Speaker 2:What is?
Speaker 3:it. It says no guns or explosives past this point.
Speaker 2:I have seen that.
Speaker 3:Does that really need to be there? I mean, if you have like a normal you know regular person that's flying, are they going to be like oh, I'm so glad that sign is there. I do have a Molotov cocktail on me. I'll. I'll take that back to the car. And for those who are going to bring it on like terrorists, to get a terrorist, is that really going to stop them?
Speaker 2:That will not deter them, no.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, oh, we didn't see the sign. Oh hey, everybody back to the van, take it all back. They got a sign now. Yeah, they got a sign now, yeah, yeah, yeah, they wiped out. It's just so stupid. Why is that there? Who is going to bring explosives and firearms to TSA? Who?
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's because people still bring full water bottles through TSA, even though we know you can't. People still forget, can't have it, no, no.
Speaker 3:Can't have it.
Speaker 2:Those extra two ounces are going to make a difference.
Speaker 3:Due to political correctness, I can't you know, completely frisk people that would be like suspicious. But damn it, soccer mom, you put that fucking water bottle down right now.
Speaker 2:Stupid, yeah, yeah, but no, I have seen that sign. We just flew a couple days ago actually. Yeah, when we flew down to Houston.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm just wondering has that ever like deterred? Has one time somebody been like, oh man, you know what? I have a lot of C4 in my baggage here.
Speaker 2:Thanks for the reminder.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much. That could have been really really bad, you know. Thanks for the reminder. Thank you so much. That could have been really really bad. Kevin, speaking of soccer moms and I'm sure you'll agree because I think you've seen this phenomenon too Excuse me, there's an activity that highlights the Jekyll and Hyde and people more than any other activity known to man Church Bachelorette parties.
Speaker 2:Oh, ok, the Jekyll and Hyde people more than any other activity known to man, church Bachelorette parties.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, the most reserved, chilled and reasonable woman turns into an apex predator whore in about two hours. Seriously, you've seen it. They get to cut loose, then yeah, I know, obviously make it up for some lost time or something like that. But I'm at a local watering hole, if you will, about a week and a half ago, and I'm just minding my own business and suddenly over the corner things start getting really, really loud and you look over and you know it's a bachelorette party because you know one of them has the sash sure and the rest of them have like dick hats.
Speaker 3:You know, yes, I know. And then suddenly you know, uh, this woman who I recognize, who's in that bachelorette party, part of that whole thing starts walking over to me and I know her to be the calmest, most collective, chilled person ever. She looks at me, looks back at her crew, looks at me again and said that's a cock I'd like to suck.
Speaker 2:Really now.
Speaker 3:And I'm like gee sister, Mary Jane, it wasn't the nun, but I, you know, it was somebody that I know and I'm just like who are it? She turned into Mr Hyde Wow, she's, she's in her pack. They're doing their apex predator whore bonding and I become a victim of it I'm sure you really minded that I laughed. It was funny of course, of course and everybody else laughed and they got a good laugh. No, I'm not hypersensitive. That's, that's cool, but but if you flip that, if that's a bachelor party, oh dude, and that's an unsuspecting lass that gets accosted like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's game over.
Speaker 2:It is game over for sure. Yeah, you're locked up with Diddy. Wow, holy smokes. So what did you end up? Leaving the watering hole with this young lady? No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, you know her that well that you wouldn't Okay.
Speaker 3:No, that's one where you yeah, there's no benefit to that at all.
Speaker 2:Understood.
Speaker 3:I appreciate your sentiment, yes, but the cock's not available to suck. And speaking of the ditty holy shit, dude. I is he dead, he's a dead man. I mean, he's got. They got to epstein him, don't they?
Speaker 2:he knows too much, yeah, he knows way too much, yeah, yeah, he's, something might happen yeah, flat out rumors, are it?
Speaker 3:He's got some really compromising video of both of the Obamas.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:That's the rumor. Oh wow, like really really bad stuff.
Speaker 2:You know who would allow themselves to be videoed like that?
Speaker 3:I don't know man, you know Like, if you find yourself being elected to a position and then suddenly there's this big party. You know like, if you, if you find yourself being elected to a position, and then suddenly there's this big party, and then suddenly shit is happening in front of you that you've never seen before. Or you know, your mama, when you were 12 year old 12 years old would had you stay away from you. You should have like the radar up.
Speaker 2:Time to leave.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't care how gorgeous the person is in front of you, you got to be like hey man, this ain't right, yeah but, unfortunately, I think that that the majority of people in power quote unquote they're blackmailed like this. You know that they. There's video of them yeah so they got to do certain things in order to avoid that coming out.
Speaker 2:Well, what's going to? What's going to happen with JLo? Because wasn't she uh, she was heavily involved in this kind of stuff too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's an interesting question. I mean nobody knows how deep it goes. I mean there's there's rumors about the Epstein video files that are just that would rock the world, wow. So I mean, eventually it's all going to come out. It all comes out, of course it does. Yeah, no, it will.
Speaker 3:So I remember kev um, you know, I was doing um top 40 in daytona beach for just a short period of time, late 90s and uh, p diddy, you know, came to day Daytona beach or spring break and he just took up like like a whole floor penthouse at one of the hotels and you know me being the uh, the uh morning radio guy and I'm also the guy do that my job. Uh, those two years that I was at Daytona beach I was the wet t-shirt contest runner. So because I had that kind of access and connection, you know his people were like, hey, you need to come on up, man, come on up, to what man? We got a shaken up there. Man, we got a shaken up there, come on. And I was. I, you know, I knew that that Kathy would probably kill me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, it was already late. Yeah, thank God for having to get up early.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have to wake up at like really early in the morning, otherwise, god only knows, it made me think when all this P Diddy shit was going down, as the rest was going down. What was up there that night, you know?
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, it was a freak-off yeah exactly Did.
Speaker 3:what's a freak off? Yeah, exactly, did I miss a freak off early incarnation of it? Do I? And do I want to like see a freak off, just to see something I've never seen before?
Speaker 2:no, because it probably is nefarious activity, with a lot of uh, a lot of grooming going on yeah, yeah, yeah you don't want any part of that.
Speaker 3:And you don't know anymore. I mean, you just don't know their ages, you don't? Oh, no, no, no idea whatsoever. So it's better to err on the side of caution.
Speaker 2:Most definitely.
Speaker 3:So yeah, it just made me think about that. Hey, kev, I want to do this. I know we didn't have this, you know, on the battle plan this morning, but I just want to do this real quick. You know, we've got another week of NFL football in the books.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's kind of leads me to my be honest when we get done with this segment?
Speaker 3:Well, let's do it, kev. A salute and a congratulations goes out to the red rifle, andy Dalton Absolutely. Katie high School, katie Tiger he was. You know he was when we started Morning Radio here in Houston. You know he was just a young freshman or something like that at Katie High School and he has just turned out to have a great career. Not only a Texas Christian, but also multiple stops in the NFL, but also multiple stops in the NFL. He is just very, very steady, calm, hits his targets, doesn't do stupid shit.
Speaker 2:You know, he's good, he's efficient, but he's not flashy and that's why people overlook him. But he wins, he wins.
Speaker 3:The only difference between him and you know the 49ers quarterback, Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy is a few years. Huh, it's the same person yeah. They don't get into trouble and they hit their targets. They read their and you can see Kev, he's reading his progressions.
Speaker 2:Of course he is, he's experienced.
Speaker 3:Which you didn't see from Bryceryce bryce was scared.
Speaker 2:He was running scared dude. I knew when they drafted him he was going to be a bust.
Speaker 3:Yeah, small too small and you know that hurts when he gets hit. He can't see over the line, man no yeah, I'm sorry, I you know I hate to say that and god bless. And God bless all the smaller guys who have done it. I mean the Arizona Cardinals quarterback. Tyler Murray is an exception to the rule, but he still struggles. Yes, he does. Being 5'10" man if you aren't 6'2", preferably 6'4" you don't even see enough of the field to make good decisions.
Speaker 2:In my opinion, it's just impossible Because your linemen are so huge now, exactly, you know, back in the Doug Flutie era that wasn't the size of the linemen. No, but Doug.
Speaker 3:Flutie, everything was a rollout Right. Yeah, Everything was a bootleg. He rarely spent any time in the pocket unless he knew immediately where he was going to go with the ball. And you, just you can't do that. Once they flush you out of the pocket, you limit your options. And you know there's Andy Dalton. You know 6'2", 6'2 1⁄2" back there, progression one, progression two, fake the progression three, hit progression four and you can see him doing that. He's like a machine, he's like a robot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you only have split seconds to check that out. Do your progressions.
Speaker 3:If you don't throw the ball in two and a half seconds, your ass is on the ground Flat out. That's why Peyton Manning had such a long career. Peyton Manning was the greatest at that. Two and a half seconds, ball's gone. Marino, same thing Two and a half seconds, ball's gone. And fitting into windows that are impossible.
Speaker 2:That all came down to prep with Manning. Manning was religious on film.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you this by the time he walked up to the line of scrimmage and looked at the defense, he already knew where he was going.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And his thing was to put a fake the other direction, to have the safety bite on his eyes and then boom, you go and it's over. That's why he was so good.
Speaker 2:That is why he was so good.
Speaker 3:And you know what His nephew is going to be really good too. I know he struggled a little bit against ULM, but Arsh Manning's got it, Kev. Let me tell you this right now he's got it.
Speaker 2:Dude, you take away the two interceptions that he threw, he didn't struggle. He had two touchdown passes and nearly 300 yards. That's not a struggle.
Speaker 3:Trust me, that guy will have a very long career if he stays healthy, and he will be a record breaker, just like his uncles. Yeah, and he will have rings. The question is, will he get the third which the other two didn't get?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh man, you talk about bragging rights there.
Speaker 3:Exactly. That's the only reason why Peyton came back after that bad injury. He's like oh, Eli's got two, I got to go get another one. And he did Go ahead. Give us your be honest man Be honest, be honest.
Speaker 2:Okay, be honest. Do you think the NFL is legit or do you think it's rigged?
Speaker 3:You know the purest in me, kev. I have been watching NFL football games since. You know Ken Stabler's Oakland Raiders. I remember Madden being a coach.
Speaker 2:Yes, so same here.
Speaker 3:When I was a little kid and Bradshaw and Franco Harris that was Pittsburgh Steelers, steel Curtain teams Staubach, staubach. You know Dallas Cowboys did that. Stand up, move the offensive line, and you did that out in the backyard with your friends when you played, everybody didn't. When you were playing a pickup football game, everybody did that absolutely the stand up same time, at the same time, and we all did that. So I, I I want to believe that it's pure, but it's.
Speaker 2:It's such a big business now that their narratives become very important well, back then you didn't have as much wagering on it, you didn't have as many venues to bet on NFL football. Now they're in bed with draft Kings. So what leads me to this question is the Dallas Cowboys look like shit for three quarters yesterday, yeah. Then all of a sudden Baltimore's defense lays down and lets them get three points away. What was the spread on that game?
Speaker 3:three points can, yeah, can you imagine, man, if you're like oh, I got this one in the bag, man, my Baltimore bet looks good, and then you're like sweating it?
Speaker 2:yeah, yep, and then again, again they went the complete opposite way with the Chiefs and their dumb ass roughing the passer call in the first half on Chris Jones. He barely, he hugged the guy and protected him from cousins from getting hurt and they called, they called a roughing the passer. I just man. It's just too many obvious signs that something is going on there.
Speaker 3:It's just too many obvious signs that something is going on there. Yeah, there are some questions, but you know, I want to believe that it's pure Okay and that some of these calls I mean, let's face reality, and I can say this because, you know, after another birthday passing today I'm getting up there. These referees are just too fucking old man.
Speaker 2:Well, I was thinking that, and the game moves a hell of a lot faster now.
Speaker 3:They can't keep track of it. They can't. Sooner or later, it'll all be AI, robot. Yeah, just everything. They'll run a play and then the AI will spit out what happened on the play and adjust accordingly.
Speaker 2:But isn't it sad that we're actually questioning?
Speaker 3:you know that it's there that we're wondering out loud Kev, the only thing that I would say in argument against it is it is such a massive business that, if any of it ever came out, you're basically tanking a trillion dollar business.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, you know, I have to believe that. I have to believe that.
Speaker 2:I want to believe it too. I want to believe it too.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, but I, you know, I'm just like you. Like, when my team gets fucked over or my bet gets fucked over, the first thing that I say is rigged, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you talk about big business. I went back and checked out. Jerry Jones bought the Dallas Cowboys for $150 million. They are now worth $10.2 billion Great investment. Oh my God, are you kidding? And people thought it was nuts that he spent that much money when he bought them.
Speaker 3:Great investment. I mean even the franchises that have been purchased in the last 10 years. The appreciation on them is incredible. Yeah, it's a great business to get in if you can.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh. That's why Brady wants to get in with the Raiders. Brady will own 10% of the Raiders within a year. That's crazy. Do you like him?
Speaker 3:commentating. He's gotten better.
Speaker 2:He's gotten a lot better.
Speaker 3:His first week was shaky, Uh-huh, and I was like, ooh, maybe he should do that Miami Dolphins thing. But he's. Somebody spoke to him. I'll tell you exactly what happened. Somebody spoke to him and said hey, man, you can't be friends with these fucking players. You got to call what you see.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because the first game he was trying not to be critical because you know, those are his peers. Still he thinks, right, they're not dude, not anymore, they're not your peers and you've got to make the call. And then he started pushing Dak and he started criticizing Dak and it's like, okay, all right, now he's starting to get loose. Yeah, but I mean he's Tom Brady dude.
Speaker 2:He'll be as good as he wants to be. Exactly yeah, it won't be from lack of prep.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you this right now is you know he? A lot of people tell him. You know, tony Romo is the gold standard now. Or somebody will tell him, you know, greg Olson is the gold standard now, Chris Collinsworth, and he's looking at all those guys and saying I'm going to fucking kill, kill you all. I will be the greatest color analyst in the history of the game, the greatest former jock color analyst in the history of the game, and he'll get there too, because he's Tom Brady.
Speaker 2:That's what he does yeah, he chases and until he gets it no, yeah, I mean, and he took that feedback right away.
Speaker 3:I mean they obviously somebody talked to him after the first game. Oh yeah, he immediately pivoted and was like let's go now. Of course it's going to make some of these uh you know, handshakes midfield, uh, a little different yeah, right you know, I'm sure, I'm sure, uh, I'm sure he wasn't walking up.
Speaker 2:uh, moseying up and cozying up to d Well you know what Dak Give him a reason not to say that, exactly, give him a reason not to say that.
Speaker 3:You're the highest paid player in NFL history. Act like it.
Speaker 2:That's why I wasn't even rooting for him yesterday. I don't think he's a $60 million a year player and I want that to backfire on them.
Speaker 3:I wasn't rooting for him because he's the quarterback of the fucking Dallas Cowboys. But that's just me, Kev. I have to be honest. Yes, sir, Do I annoy you with how much of a bulldozer type A personality I am? I mean, do I often make you just grit your teeth and go God, I can't stand this motherfucker. No, not anymore. God, I can't stand this motherfucker, no, not anymore.
Speaker 2:Early on I was like man, I'll never get a word in, man, I'll never be the focal point. And then you get older and then you realize that you know what, dude, you're not meant to be the guy. So, yeah, no, not anymore dude. Well, once I accepted our roles, once I realized our roles, I was like dude, I'm glad I have him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, you know, we just, we just had, I mean as soon as we figured out what clicks you got to go with it.
Speaker 2:It just evolved. It just evolved.
Speaker 3:And for anybody that's ever given me that well, you're, you're the main guy. You know. I always tell him I said without Kevin, my radio and now podcast it doesn't exist, my career doesn't exist, it never would have happened. I mean, he gave me the shot in June of 1996, and he has provided the atmosphere. He has provided me the perfect platform because of how he reacts to me and how he, like, pushes me and how he sets me up to excel and become a phenomenal broadcaster.
Speaker 2:You know, I appreciate you saying that, but our, our buddy Zach, who does the voice work for the fuzzy mic and for the tongue and climb podcast, he nailed it when he and I went to the Amon Amarth concert because he listens every week and he was like I'll summarize you guys in a nutshell he goes you open up the portal for Tim to shine. He goes, that's what you do, dude. He goes you open up the portal to bring out Tuttles comedy. I'm like man, I've never heard it like that before. But my natural inquisitiveness brings the questions. That allows you to just expand on it and be funny.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and not only that, uh, the inquisitiveness and being curious. But you know also, you, you you'll set it up. Set it up like you'll be, like, OK, I know what to say right here and I know what he'll do with it and he'll, he'll hit it out of the fucking ballpark, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, and that just comes from experience of working together. You know, I mean, after Jeez it was in, it was in Tallahassee when, when I realized that I'm like, oh, I know where he's going with this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I actually said this to somebody once when describing you and me, kevin Kline is John Stockton, utah Jazz. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm Carl Malone. He does everything right to get the ball down the floor and then he looks for the good dish to me and I do a fucking thunder, slam into the fucking basket and the crowd goes nuts. And the crowd's going nuts for me. They are. I'm Carl Malone, I just got the dunk. But that doesn't happen without the sweet pass from John Stockton, and he's in the hall of fame. He's in the hall of fame. You're in the hall of fame.
Speaker 2:Kev. That's right, buddy. It's been an incredible symbiotic relationship and in partnership Right on buddy.
Speaker 3:Alright, enough of that feel-good shit. Yeah, no, kidding, right, it's my birthday, so let's talk some smack here. Kev, I know somebody that's trying to have it both ways and I want to know if you agree with me.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I've actually become friends in the neighborhood with a very, very I don't know how to. They're liberal, progressive, woke, okay, and we have some great conversations, we have some nice debates back and forth and you know they're unlike most people that are that way. They're open-minded and, you know, can actually speak without flipping the fuck out.
Speaker 2:Receptive to maybe learning something.
Speaker 3:Exactly. They are curious and open about knowing what the other side thinks, just like I am, like I'm totally okay with hearing you know how they feel about stuff, their feelings and everything, even though I laugh at 99.9% of it. But they're talking about, okay, they're having a baby soon. Okay, and we're you know, I was just talking to them this weekend and they want to have a gender reveal party. So me, being who I am, I'm like, well, how do you know for sure? Exactly, it's going to be a boy or girl. And they were like immediately, like holy cow, we didn't even think of that.
Speaker 2:I'm like, well, you know, obviously you're not 100% true to your dogma, or what they could do is whatever they want it to be.
Speaker 3:That's funny. Yeah, all right, you want a boy. Okay, it's funny. You should say that because you know they don't know. They put it in an envelope and her sister has the envelope and it would arrange the whole gender reveal. But dad says to me you know, in confidence, kind of on the side, he goes gosh, I hope it's a boy, I want to have a son so bad and I'm like look, dude, even if it's pink smoke.
Speaker 2:It ain't over yet for you, yeah, right.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Anyway, that's so funny. It was like, just like they were caught, they were like, oh my God, we didn't even think of that. You're right, we do talk that way, and here we're going to have a gender reveal party.
Speaker 2:Hey, as a father of four and as somebody speaking myself here that never wanted any children, what is it about guys and wanting a boy? Is it because the name proliferates, or is it because guys are easier?
Speaker 3:Actually a father thinks going in that a guy is going to be easier and obviously the name proliferation is important.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:But you realize, particularly in my case, when we had a girl first, that the girl is really easy, I think, I think, I think I think Audrey was well, yeah, audrey was pretty easy, you know, except for, you know, the, the, the baby stuff. Yeah, kev I don't know if you remember there's not Audrey would have the witching hour when she was a baby, 6 PM every single night. She's just so uncomfortable screaming and and freaking out italic-y type thing.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:And and her mom and I remember just like what are we doing? What are we doing wrong? What's going on here? You know where it is. You know it was probably some, some kind of air bubbles or something like that, or you know.
Speaker 3:We found out later Audrey had some constipation issues and shit like that you know had some ear aches and everything, but it was the same thing 6.00 PM every night, an hour of screaming oh man and the and the rest of them. You know they were chill like that, but you know, once you got past that, I mean I thought Audrey was easy, audrey was very self contained.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Very independent, didn't need us at all from an early age, just didn't need it. You know early age, just didn't need. You know we were.
Speaker 2:we were like uh, yeah, we were like I, I don't know, we were just um accessories yeah, you know I'm saying oh yeah, no, I know she's, she's always been independent but yeah, kev, you want your name to continue.
Speaker 3:Okay, you want little. You want little titles I see so that that's why and you want to, kevin, and you also want to be able to play a little ball with them okay you know you want the the old, uh, the old, uh. Hey, grab, grab the glove, let's have a, let's have a catch, son all right you know that that's. That's a big deal to dads. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:It explains it very well.
Speaker 3:Hey Kev.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:I just thought of something. I guess we got another tropical storm or hurricane scare possibly coming into the Gulf here.
Speaker 2:It doesn't look like it's going to affect Texas at all. It looks like it's going Florida, alabama, area.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like it's going florida alabama area. Yeah, but it's something just dawned on me when I'm looking at it. Um, you know how the weatherman does his gig okay you know he has this whole. You know big word, song and dance, foreplay bullshit. You know barometric pressure gigabars, millibars, northern. Hey man, do I need a coat and umbrella today? Just bleed with that exactly.
Speaker 2:It's so annoying that he has to go into that fucking foreplay, you know yeah, there are some of us who like that, but, uh, but the majority no, no, no.
Speaker 3:I mean, to me that's the same thing, as you know, when you you're looking for a recipe online and instead of them just laying out the recipe, blowing 17 miles an hour in the Minnesota wind you know, ma just got back from the store with the ingredients. No, what are the fucking ingredients and what's the recipe Exactly?
Speaker 2:Get to the meat. Am I right? You are absolutely right.
Speaker 3:And, by the way, getting back to the weatherman, real quick, I'm going to call you a weatherman Meteorologist. Fuck that, kev. They don't even work with meteors.
Speaker 2:No, they don't.
Speaker 3:You're right when does that even come from?
Speaker 2:I think that meteorology is like a study of weather.
Speaker 3:But you know what a meteor is? Right, it's like an asteroid type thing.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We almost had a scare last week.
Speaker 3:Now exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, size of a football field.
Speaker 3:Now, at that point, then you bring in the specialist who's been back in the back room for years waiting for his moment, and he's your meteorologist, that's right.
Speaker 2:We let Igor back here, igor, come here, I'm the meteorologist Come here. Right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3:They let him out of the cage once every 20 years, when a meteor comes into play, by the way. Yeah, what's up with that too. What are the? What's going on there?
Speaker 2:Ah, nothing that came up in like a million miles. I love how they do that.
Speaker 3:They were going to have a close scare.
Speaker 2:It's a million miles away.
Speaker 3:Oh, I think, Kevin, everything is about fear. Now, yeah, I mean, you know, here in Houston, when, when we have anything brewing in the golf at all, the golf you have, I mean you can literally, you know, see the local, their dicks are hard man. Oh yeah, they're like oh, let's scare the fuck out of these fucking people, cause they know, if they scare the fuck out of you, their ratings go up.
Speaker 2:That's right, Cause you'll be tuned in more and yeah but that's it they.
Speaker 3:They thrive on that shit there, kev.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they do like uh, you know, uh, you know, like chicken rain dances or something like that, just to get one brewed up, you know now they, they know about this time of year kind of things ramp up a little bit, but you know they're not, they're they're hoping that it's not a devastating one, just one that just you know, gets on the radar so that they can start talking about it a little bit more in depth.
Speaker 3:So they're in their meetings together and going hey look, we don't need a huge body count here.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:Maybe 15, 20, 30 in Galveston and Bolivar Peninsula, but the rest of it just devastated damages. Fuck the insurance companies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just need about 800 to 850 without power for a week and we're good to go, we're good, we don't need that million shit that happened with Barrel.
Speaker 3:I mean that's bad because you know the last thing we want are these clowns to completely just riot and stuff. But you know, we just need a little something, you know. You know khou has about a two point uh uh average on us there. You know we this is our shot to close the gap. Yeah, yeah, big, nasty one. And then we send phil down there into the teeth of it. Yeah right, I mean you know the other stations. They'll stay over there by san luis resort.
Speaker 2:We're gonna put phil out on the fucking pier and we don't want him to get decapitated, but man, if he can get hit by a stop sign, oh my god, that goes viral yeah, he's got three kids.
Speaker 3:We don't want him dead or anything. You know you could just knock him out, maybe with, I don know, just a piece of a traffic light. That'd be great. Thank you, god. Amen.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's totally it.
Speaker 3:Hey, kev, I've been bonding with this black dude that I work out with. Sometimes we have the same kind of schedule where we'll be in the gym together, and he got a laugh out of that. Let me just say that right now. He laughed his ass off at this.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 3:But we got to talking. We started talking some like deep spiritual, next life shit. Yeah, we got to talking. We started talking some like deep spiritual, next life shit. Yeah, and he believes. This black dude believes in reincarnation okay and I immediately pointed out. I said well, obviously you can never be angry about slavery or reparations, because you don't know what you were in the past life. That's right. You could have been a vicious, nasty slave owner that makes leonardo dicaprio in django unchained look like uh, you know, mr rogers, you don't know that's right right uh-huh dude, he was rolling man yeah, well yeah, it's true, he called his friend too up.
Speaker 3:He goes like he goes, hey man. And he can say you know his friend, he believes in reincarnation too he's. You know more of that. You know, fight the power type, uh and his friend. You put his friend on speaker. His friend was laughing his ass off. He goes, he goes. Don't you ever tell anybody what you heard right here again. Quit cavorting with the crackers. That's right, he got a kick out of it.
Speaker 2:Did you read that scientific story last week that when we die, there are still organisms in our body that live?
Speaker 4:No, what are you talking about? Cells that cheat death? Life and death are believed to be the undeniable truths. However, recent studies have shed light on a third state which expands past the limits of life and death. Some cells can defy these traditional boundaries and enter another state which extends beyond death. These cells can self-assemble and form new life forms after death of their parent organism.
Speaker 3:I'm very intrigued. I want to know how they found this out and what this may mean.
Speaker 2:Well, we can do that right after we have another TJT join us on the line. Oh, he's here. There he is, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3:Hey guys. Todd Jeffrey Toutle, hi. Hey, glad to finally see you guys. You look like a wounded warrior now, I definitely, am definitely for those unaware uh, my brother Todd this is my brother, todd, by the way. Um, he did 2,100 miles on the Appalachian Trail, part of uh, warrior expeditionsorg. You know, and Kev, a lot of people are you. You know, and Kev, a lot of people are you know. We're wondering, or, todd, a lot of people wonder why, why was Todd on this? Why was Todd doing this? Is Todd okay?
Speaker 5:Um, yeah, good question. So, uh, long time listener, third time caller, thanks for having me on the show. I and it's twenty two hundred miles, tim, don't cheat me, thank you. But yeah, so my wife Jenny and I hiked the Pacific Crest Trail for a week or so in our 20s. A week or so in our 20s and I just, you know, for mental health reasons, I was also really excited about doing the Appalachian Trail and happened to hook up with Warrior Expeditions to be able to do it with some support and funding. So it was, you know, it was definitely a win for me to be able to do something that I've always wanted to do. So, you know, instead of just dreaming about it, actually doing it was awesome. But then the clarity and mental health aspect of knocking it out to improve my physical, mental state Todd describe a typical day.
Speaker 3:I mean you were doing this nearly six months, almost every single day, and you were grinding out what 15, 20 miles a day of hiking in some very tough conditions Describe a typical day of what you were dealing with 15 miles a day for the entire trail.
Speaker 5:So early on it was, you know, we were doing like 8 to 10 miles a day until we got our height of the legs Somewhere in the middle portion of the trail. You know I was doing upwards of 25 to 30 miles a day. And then when we got into the northern states where it got really difficult and challenging with nothing but mountain climbing, you know we were back down to, you know, 8 to 15 miles per day. So a typical day is, you know, you get up, you crash your campsite, pack everything up your tent, sleeping bag, all your gear, materials, and then, you know, just start hiking. You know, take a break for a snack mid-morning, grab a lunch somewhere along the way. A lot of days I didn't do any of that, I just ate as I was walking on the trail, just to get miles in. As I was walking on the trail, just to get miles in, you know, potentially an afternoon snack and then quitting for the day Early on.
Speaker 5:That was like 3 o'clock in the first part of the trail, but as the miles increased, you know it was 7, 8 o'clock, we still had sunlight, and then, you know, back down to 6, seven o'clock at night as days got shorter. But you know it was a push all day long to knock out the miles. And then you get to camp. I scope out where you can set up camp, which is preferably by a water source so you can replenish your water supply, eat dinner, get your camp set up, dry out anything that got wet during the day if it was a rainy day, the best that you could and then recon what you were going to do the next day as far as elevation gain and everything, which for me included putting whatever snacks and other energy stuff in my hip pocket. So I didn't have to stop if I didn't want to. And then you know go to sleep very early we call it hiker's midnight which was usually 8 or 9 o'clock depending on when the sun set. And then you know rinse and repeat every day.
Speaker 3:Todd when and describe some of these possible things of you know where you faced some danger or where you were wondering boy, what am I doing? This is do I really need to be doing this? Did you have some of those moments?
Speaker 5:Absolutely. You know most of the northern part of the trail is the most difficult. So you know, going into northern Vermont, all of the White Mountains in New Hampshire and then southern Maine, were all very difficult for some of those rock climbing days where you know it was very wet, rocks, slick conditions, kind of dangerous conditions. You know, one of those days I was trying to descend down Moosilake Mountain and it was pouring down rain. I had a good slip and fall, smacked my head into the ground on a rock, ended up getting a concussion out of that one so definitely dangerous. And then the very last day well, I shouldn't say that couple days my third to the last day, going through the 100 mile wilderness in May I ended up twisting my ankle and then having to walk out 6 miles to go, 6.3 miles still to go, and then I climbed Mount Patotten, which is the last mountain on the trail, to end it.
Speaker 5:And that mountain was extremely dangerous. You know, even my wife Jenny and one of my fellow hikers and their family members in Europe have been climbing with us. But there were some very scary moments during that. Even you know, my wife Jenny said she definitely was the first time. With all the hikes we've done and all the dangerous stuff we've done in the past, this surpassed it and because of that I ended up dislocating my arm, my left shoulder was it cold at the top of Katadyn?
Speaker 2:was it cold at the top of Katadyn?
Speaker 5:yeah, it was. So we it wasn't too bad when we started out at the campsite, so probably oh. And a couple miles into it we ran into a couple adult bears. They moved right off the trail and just above the trail and the tree were two cubs. So you know, that was that was interesting in itself, since we had a large enough group. We just had to proceed forward, walk under the cubs and you know hope mama bear didn't do her thing. So there was that. But by the time we broke above the tree line, got into the alpine zone, it was definitely the wind kicked up exponentially and it was probably a 36 degree with the wind chill. By the time we summited Mount Katahdin, everybody was very cold up there and again, unfortunately, there was weather.
Speaker 3:We were in the clouds, so there was no view to be had for that climb until we started descending down and weather started breaking a little bit to give us a view, todd, I was watching some videos and seeing some pictures and thinking to myself, okay, some of those altitudes, some of those, they look a little hairy where, hey man, the fear of heights comes in and everything like that. I mean obviously heights comes in and everything like that. I mean obviously, todd, I remember growing up you were the guy that handled all the spinny rides like it was nothing. You would get upside down on that one wall and it'd spin around. I mean, you're a Blackhawk helicopter pilot. You never had a problem with heights or any of that spatial disorientation stuff. But then again I was also thinking, yeah, that was Todd, when we were kids. As we get a little older, is there a little bit of that. Ooh, that's a little. There's a little queasy there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, I mean, actually I've always been a little afraid of heights. You know people don't think that's possible with pilots, but it definitely is and it's. It's not really when I'm like tethered to something or have a protective rail. You know, if there's a rail up there, if it's below my hip line, that gives me the queasies Always has kind of thing, and I never go to the absolute edge of something, just because I've always had that climbing the roof, all that stuff, because I've always had that climbing a roof, all that stuff.
Speaker 5:But it's definitely gotten different with age, very much more pronounced. Obviously, your movements are more deliberate. My brain says I'm still a 20-year-old and I have to keep that in check because my body's like nope, dude, you're exceeding a limitation here. Um, so I gotta. I definitely have to keep that in check a lot, uh, throughout the trail, especially climbing, you know, so many peaks that we did, which required, you know, uh, using both hands, both feet and trying to, you know, figure out, uh, uh, you know always having a having a fourth point of contact, always touching something to make sure that you're stable and steady. So my pace was always slower than the 20 year olds bounding up and down these mountains, passing me like billy goats.
Speaker 3:Hey, todd, I got to say and, kev, I'm going to let you in on something here I'm glad my brother suffered some of this shit because when, when we were kids, at the amusement park, we would do, you know, the teacup rides yeah, that fucker would be spinning us as fast as we can. We're all wanting to todd stop, we want to fucking throw up and he's like, no, I ain't stopping. So, todd, hate that shit. Now I can't do it, the I can't do it anymore. But he was like diabolical. He had no problems with it when we were kids. That's hilarious, todd, talk about you're out there on the trail with your combat veteran friends. Do you have lifelong bonds? Is it something you could just see? That's helping you all out, getting this time together and this time in your own thoughts.
Speaker 5:Yeah, absolutely. And again, we hiked our own hike. Um, and I mainly hiked with two primary folks from the warrior expeditions, just because our pace was about the same. Uh, jeff wells or papa smurf was his trail name, and then, uh, rosa, and uh, her trail name was lady glitter sparkles. But I know from the trolls movie, if movie, if you guys, yeah, yeah, I got sick of saying that the full name the entire time, so I just called her. Yeah, yeah, I mean I actually ended up hiking with her the most. And then because probably well over a thousand miles, we just had the same pace, the same idea of you know where we wanted to camp, what we wanted to do, when to take resupply breaks, uh, you know, she and I really connected in that way.
Speaker 5:Uh, but you know, there were times where we were hiking with other warrior expeditions and even other veterans who were on the trail that didn't even know about warrior expeditions. There's definitely that camaraderie and bond because we've all been through something together, especially after, you know, 20 years of persistent conflict. You're going to run into a lot of like folks with shared value, shared belief, great stories, understanding of each other and what we're going through. So that was always wonderful. So I absolutely ran into lifelong friends of veterans but even strangers that I met on the trail. It was pretty amazing the culture and the trail towns of people who just bend over backwards to help you out, our community supporters that we stayed at their houses along the way, just wonderful people that I will absolutely stay in contact with.
Speaker 2:The first time we talked to you, you were just a quarter of the way done, about 500 miles in, and you said that one of the reasons that you were doing it was for mental health and mental clarity. You said that mental clarity doesn't really happen until about mile 1,000 is what you were told. Tell us what happened at 1,000. That becomes life-altering.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know I was. I was expecting it, waiting for it. It was more like the twelve hundred mile mark for me and it's just something that clicks. You just stop ruminating about the past, you stop worrying about the future and you really are in the moment and just dealing with the now. Which was it was? It was just something that took place. I can't say like, hey, this specific event is what caused it. It was just one day, it was just boom, Something clicked in my brain and you know again, just stop worrying about stuff past, future and just really enjoying the moment and becoming more and more relaxed.
Speaker 5:The remainder of that trail, it's just quite magical, to be honest with you what you get out of long-term exposure in nature and nature like okay, buddy, it was the coolest thing ever, because then I really, really, really started enjoying the trail, people, the culture, the experience, everything else kev, you remember a couple podcast, uh episodes ago, when I was talking about this, I had that kind of moment of clarity too.
Speaker 3:I think it was after the maintenance guys were spraying pesticide in my apartment where it's like hey, why do we have watches? Every watch should say now, because you can't do anything about the past and nobody has promised a future, so make it now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I know exactly what you're saying, because my therapist the new one that I'm talking with she says your whole problem stems from you're trying to control your future, which you don't know anything about, and you're trying to do something different about your past, and you can't. So, yeah, I'm trying to be more present in my life, and it's awesome that you said that, todd, because that's something that I'm working towards.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and you know, once you hit it and I really wish you do, kevin, because I know your journey's been, you know, challenging oh yeah, oh yeah, once you find that it is quite amazing. And it's funny because my friends and family, you know, my wife and my kids even commented this weekend. It was the first time I saw them. We went to visit them at college for parents weekend. It was the first time I saw them. We went to visit them at college for parents weekend and and I guess my son had said to my wife wow, dad seems really chill now, nice, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, buddy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a Kev. Yeah, you know. Another question that we get about Todd when we have Todd on, is you know who's older? Is it you or is it Todd? Everybody thinks Todd's older, which I understand. He's much more mature and you know, growing up I was kind of like Fredo in the family and he was Michael. Yeah, you know he was going to run the thing and I remember like early age, like Todd was the dependable one for dad, you know, on the tasks and the chores and everything like that, and Todd and dad would get together. Go well, let's have Tim, you know, let him sweep or something, dad. So there you go. Todd is 18 months younger.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but yeah, oh. And, by the way, tim would intentionally screw shit up so they wouldn't ask him to do it. Of course, every time they tried to dabble back into him asking you to do something, I swear to God, he would intentionally screw it up and they'd just not ask him to do anything.
Speaker 3:Just go, just go shoot your hoops, tim. Just yeah, he served his duties. Hey, happy birthday, by the way. Thank you, todd, thank you and and and Kev. Real quick, I got to hit you real quick. You have another therapist. You go through therapists the way J-Lo goes through husbands. What the fuck here, man?
Speaker 2:This is true. This is true Now, when you've run your course with a therapist and you no longer think you're getting help from them, it's time to go seek out another one, because I still got my issues.
Speaker 3:No, what he's trying to say is, after he's ran off a therapist and they've gone to another career, he needs to find a new one. Todd, I got to ask this to wrap up the 22 um the the 2,200 mile trip, will you? Will you ever do that shit again?
Speaker 5:Uh, no, that was a one and done on the Appalachian trail, um, but you know I definitely will do some longer hikes again, but they just won't be that magnitude, you know, like the john muir trail up in the northwest, uh, the camino del santiago over in europe, you know, but those are much shorter and much more bougie type things. So I'm done shitting in the woods you're gonna do some glam camping.
Speaker 3:Now some glamping.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I definitely don't want that. You know, I never, it never, improved that, that feeling of shame and embarrassment.
Speaker 3:All right, in honor of that, let's go here and, kevin, you're going to start it off, let's do a top three.
Speaker 1:Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle and Klein's top three.
Speaker 3:Top three things you did once or twice, but you'll never fucking do again. Kevin Klein.
Speaker 2:Get married. That's one of mine. I'm one and done on that man. No, I mean, fortunately, I married my best friend and we just celebrated 28 years on Saturday, so I'm never going anywhere. And fortunately, I married my best friend and we just celebrated 28 years, uh, on on Saturday. Um, so I'm never going anywhere and I hope she doesn't either. But yeah, if it were to ever fail or if I were to ever become a widow, nope, not again, not again not because I hate it, but because I wouldn't be able to find somebody like her.
Speaker 3:I know, yeah, uh, she's, she one and done she's your. Appalachian Trail.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Ride a roller coaster. Never again. No, If I flipped out on a dolphin ride, I ain't getting on a fucking roller coaster. And then the last one I will never get hungover drunk again. You say that no, I have willpower now. And plus I'm not drinking beer or wine anymore, I'm just strictly bourbon. And plus I'm not drinking beer or wine anymore, I'm just strictly bourbon and tequila. And you just can't. You can't you know when, when you've had enough of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, those are stippers anyway. Uh, todd Tuttle, things you did once or twice, but you'll never fucking do it again.
Speaker 5:Uh, join the army. That's a definite um. Is that because of age? Is that because of age or or because of what it did to you? No, I, I. If I had to do it all over again, I joined the air force. Okay, they take care of their people. When we had air force guys, uh, with us out in the field, they got substandard living pay living with the Army guys. So if that tells you something different about the branches, that's it right there. The second one is a 2,000 mile hike. I'll never do that again. Done being a 2,000 miler and taxes, I will never do my taxes again. Done being a 2000 miler and taxes, I will never do my taxes again.
Speaker 3:You guys have hit two of mine. I'm never going to get married again and I will never let somebody do my taxes again. That was the dumbest fucking thing I ever did.
Speaker 5:Are you sure about that, Tim? No, no, I think you have another tattoo potential for the next lady.
Speaker 3:And that would definitely never get her name tattooed on you. It's so funny. As soon as you do, you can hear the clock ticking.
Speaker 5:You don't tattoo a name on something that has a 50% fail rate.
Speaker 3:I wish you were there in 2021 when I was doing it.
Speaker 5:Everybody called me and told me ahead of time. I definitely would have said something Well.
Speaker 3:Todd, this is great having you on. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5:Yeah, absolutely Again, happy birthday. I love doing this show with you guys, and Tim made a mistake and bought some Powerball tickets yesterday for today's drawing, forgetting it was your birthday, so I know I'm not going to win shit. Thanks a lot for that.
Speaker 2:Really happy for you, buddy. I'm glad that it worked out and I'm glad you had such a great time. Thanks, Kevin.
Speaker 5:Great seeing you guys, great seeing you.
Speaker 2:You and I'll do something on the fuzzy mic soon, okay, awesome.
Speaker 3:I love you, todd, take care See you, bud.
Speaker 2:He's the best. He's awesome. I'm so happy for him, man. I'm so proud of him. He is like he's the as funny.
Speaker 3:But you know I wouldn't have had a career if he went in the army I, I mean and you could probably just see it right there too I mean, you know, you know what's the difference between tim and todd? I'm that fucking devil on the shoulder and he's the good guy on the shoulder. No, don't do that, you'll. You'll regret it later. Do it Just fucking do. It Feels good, he's awesome. Um uh, kev, there's one thing I want to do before we take off.
Speaker 2:Oh what, what is that?
Speaker 3:And I don't know where we are on time, we're fine off. Oh, what is that? And I don't know where we are on time, we're fine. But I want to get to this because it may be something that I may address in the next week or so, so I kind of wanted your feedback on it.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Let's do a rabbit hole. Rabbit hole of the week. First off, let's start off with hers. What rabbit hole did you get caught in?
Speaker 2:Now let me clarify this. When you say a rabbit hole, do you have to spend an enormous amount of time, or is it just something that you watch repeatedly for maybe 15 minutes?
Speaker 3:I choose, at this point in our career, not to define and just let you go do your thing.
Speaker 2:Great, okay, I found an interesting and it's not really a new. I mean, it's a new sanctioned sport, but it's not a new sport. It's been around for a while and it's called the UDKC, the Ultimate Dick Kicking Championships. I'm not kidding you, tim. There are guys that stand across from each other and go and kick the other guy in the balls and whoever gives up loses. It is, it's real the ultimate dick kicking championship.
Speaker 3:Kevin, no, wait a minute. How do you determine a winner?
Speaker 2:Whoever gives up.
Speaker 3:That's the funniest shit ever, man. Yeah, so they will go back and forth kicking each other in the dick until somebody says no more Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or until they get knocked out.
Speaker 3:Kev, I would lose that thing. Mid-leg swing, I wouldn't fucking sign up for it.
Speaker 2:No, like as soon as I saw the leg going back I'm like done, here's the thing they get to swing their leg three times One, two and on the third one, that's when they go up, and it can't be with the foot, it's got to be with the shin. There are rules. There are rules to this.
Speaker 3:No, where's this based on? This sounds like an Eastern European sick hostel type thing. Asia.
Speaker 2:Okay, same thing type thing asia.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, same thing here's. Here's two japanese guys going at it right here. This is the ultimate dick kick a suit championship?
Speaker 3:I can't even believe it. That's. That's a thing like who's the first person I thought of oh, he has a good idea. You shrink your rag up and I shrink my rag up.
Speaker 2:Whose idea? I don't know, I don't know. So stupid yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then again, my rabbit hole was kind of stupid too. What is it?
Speaker 2:I really did some deep dive on the most dangerous stunts in tv and movie history.
Speaker 3:Okay, dar robinson, and you know well he was, he was the greatest, he was the best man and he, he was actually in the movie stick as a regular role and his role in that was great. And then you know, he, he was falling off of a building down, you know like what, 30, 40 floors and still shooting at Burt Reynolds. I was like God man, that is just unbelievable. So I became fascinated with that.
Speaker 2:Well, do you remember when that show that's Incredible was on with Kathie Lee Gifford? No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3:Kathie Lee, france Arkington, john Davidson and Kathie Lee Gifford yes, or Kathie Lee?
Speaker 2:Crosby, Crosby, yeah, and he was on the top of the CN Tower in Toronto getting ready to jump off and she was interviewing him and he's like, oh, what an ass I am yeah.
Speaker 3:Yep, keith Darrow Robinson was incredible and he died doing a stunt. Died doing a stunt man. He never got hurt one time. No broken bones, nothing. And then the motorcycle straight off the cliff. Yeah, I couldn't find that footage. Have you ever seen the motorcycle going off the cliff?
Speaker 2:No, I haven't.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's out there. I wish it was. I want to see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 3:I mean to me. If you know, let me just throw this out here right now If I'm a stunt guy and I bite it, I want you to use the footage.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, and that's the reason I'm bringing it up, I mean watching those dangerous stunts. It kind of is giving me an itch I want to scratch.
Speaker 2:You want to be a stunt person.
Speaker 3:You know I've always been an adrenaline junkie, kev. Yeah, I know, and I had to tone it down. You know, raising kids, life insurance policy, policy, all that, but gosh, I, there's I, I, I want to do that.
Speaker 2:I want to get back into some of that okay, well, I can get you set up for stunts. Yes, one of my dear friends in high school is a uh, massive stunt woman in in hollywood. She's in the international kickboxing and boxing hall of fame. She's a stunt woman, she Hollywood. She's in the International Kickboxing and Boxing Hall of Fame. She's a stunt woman, she's been. She was a stunt woman for well. She got knocked out by in Million Dollar Baby. She got knocked out by Hilary Swank. She was one of the boxers in that. She's been a stunt woman for Angelina Jolie. She's been a stunt woman for well. She was a stunt woman in the TV series with Shannon Doherty and Alyssa Milano. Was that Charmed?
Speaker 3:What kind of stuff, what kind of stunts did she do?
Speaker 2:She does everything. She jumps out of moving vehicles. She says the hardest ones to do are the ratchet ones, which was always in Charmed, where they put a harness on your back and it looks like you get shot out. Yeah, she said, you get serious whiplash on that. She's done everything.
Speaker 3:Done everything see I, to me, I, I want to do car jumps uh-huh, she's done it I want to do uh, I want to, I want to go off now. I don't want to do like 20 or 30 stories, I don't want to break records, but I wouldn't mind going out like a five-story building with the airbag down below.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:You know something like that? That'd be cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bridget's all over it, man.
Speaker 3:But here's the thing. Yeah, but here's the thing. I mean, you know that's a young man's game. I mean, even if it's an older actor who's our age, Kev, they'll still get a younger actor, and you know brush some gray into his beard or something.
Speaker 3:You know. I'm saying I don't, I think that you could do it, I don't think it's, I don't think it's an age thing, I think it's a fitness thing. I, I, I think I want to dabble in because I, I kev when I was a kid. I mean, you know, fall guy, that show, and, uh, the movie hooper with bururt Reynolds.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, those spoke to me, those were my jam, yeah, you know, and I just, man, it's always been back there Because, you know, I got that adrenaline junkie thing. I've jumped out of airplanes, jumped off of cliffs, you know all the bungee jumping, all that shit. I've raced vehicles, I've done it all and I just, you know, when I was going through this, I was like man, can I do this stuff? I just want to see if I can do it.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, let me get in touch with her.
Speaker 3:Put her together, see if there's something that can be done. I would love to do it.
Speaker 2:She knows everybody.
Speaker 3:I'm sure my kids are going. We're going to miss you, dad. But the life insurance policy, that'll be sweet too.
Speaker 2:She. I did a podcast interview with her. She said the amount of safety that goes into one stunt. She said it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the insurance companies won't insure the picture unless they go through all of the details. They got all the eyes. They cross all the T's, the whole stunt won't happen because there's been too many screw ups and you hear about them when you have bad shit happening. You know, like the, you know the lady who lost her, her legs. You know when she was on the motorcycle one and the Deadpool two. Okay, she lost appendages. Wow, yeah, they paid her. They had to pay her $30 million.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of money.
Speaker 3:So I mean and that made me think too. I mean, you know I lose my arm, but hey, I got 30 million. Yeah, right, you know, I can always use the other arm to grab the umbrella, drink, to sip on the beach.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 3:All right, Kev, this has been a blast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I finally got to hook up with Todd and I was so happy about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and please, you should have him on your podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm definitely going to.
Speaker 3:Your other one, the Fuzzy Mike, the highly successful, very, very deep thought Fuzzy Mike podcast that Kevin Kline has Dude later this week.
Speaker 2:Guess who I get to talk to? Who? Burt Blylevin's son, todd.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Is that the greatest nickname in the history of Chris Berman nicknames.
Speaker 3:Burt B Holm Blylevin.
Speaker 2:I love it. I'm going to have to talk about that.
Speaker 3:I love it. Chris Berman's had a few good ones, but that is one of the top ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's going to be great. I mean, hey, Kev, you got to ask him. I think his dad had one of the Didn't his dad throw a knuckleball?
Speaker 2:He threw a. He threw a hell of a curve ball. I know that maybe later in his career he might've thrown a knuckleball Cause, Kev that's.
Speaker 3:I gotta admit I'm intrigued by the knuckleball because that could revive my career.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, well, okay.
Speaker 3:I mean, if I can learn to throw the knuckleball, you don't need to have the arm strength. You know that I had. I mean, you know, when I was in high school I had, you know, low 90 speed. Don't have that anymore. But with a knuckleball, I mean, didn't Phil Necro throw that thing until he was 50 years old.
Speaker 2:That is correct, and so I'm seeing it right now Wingsuiting in from 13,000 feet, lands right on the pitcher's mound, sheds the wingsuit and just picks up the ball and starts firing knuckleballs.
Speaker 3:Kevin Kwan is making fun of my Walter Mitty shit. Yeah, I need some reality in my life, you should do it, dude, try reality. Tuttle um, what do you have this week on the fuzzy mic podcast?
Speaker 2:uh, just uh the same one that's uh airing last week. Uh is going to air again this week because everybody's uh getting really, really positive feedback on it. Uh, it's with laurel weir's, who's my new therapist that's therapist.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, until he runs her off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, no, you know what? Here's the thing, tim. So she says what I've done 10 sessions on already she can clear up in one session. I'm like that ain't a good business model. She's like well, I'm not in it for money, I'm in it to help people.
Speaker 3:No, you need money too. Exactly, I mean, drag that shit out at least four or five sessions, right yeah? Or you know, charge a huge amount on that one session. Here's the deal I can fix you in one session, but it's $12,000. That's your business model.
Speaker 2:There it is, there it is.
Speaker 3:If I don't make you uncrazy in 60 minutes, you're money back. All right, Kev. Hey, make sure you like. Follow, download, subscribe, Give us a rating on this podcast. You're the ones that keep it going. We got merchandise available on the Title Kline Facebook page. Kevin Kline. It's been a blast, Happy birthday buddy.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much, thank you so much.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go celebrate my birthday. Huh, how are you celebrating?
Speaker 3:You remember my friends, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, I do remember your friends.
Speaker 3:By the way, they love you. They think you're just so cute oh well thank you. They're like, kevin Klein is just so cute, he's just so cute, he's just so, he's. He's so strange, it's just so cute. Yeah, I want to. I want to fix him. Well, how much you charging? I'm like if you even walked near him wearing what you're wearing right now, he wouldn't be able to talk to you.
Speaker 2:Okay, he would cower, he would run, but they, they, they love you. Tell him I said hello.
Speaker 3:Okay, have a great one, man.
Speaker 1:I'll see you next week, bro, sounds good. That's it for this episode of the Tuttle and Klein show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode and and you can get more Klein on his podcast, the fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle and Klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
