Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #19: Our 80s Nostalgia and the Hard Truths of Growing Older
How does dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer spark a discussion on cancel culture? Join us on the Tuttle & Kline Show as we kick off with some hilarious and tension-filled stories from our early career days, including a memorable clash with Texas A&M fans and a UT volleyball coach's snub.
We tackle the controversial topic of cancel culture, ignited by Ariana Grande's eyebrow-raising dinner companion choice, and passionately debate the importance of understanding infamous figures to prevent future atrocities.
Relive the 1980s with us as we paint a vivid picture of our childhood adventures, from the thrilling game of "kick the can" to the bold fashion statements of parachute pants and mullets. We fondly recall the sense of freedom and unity during Ronald Reagan's presidency, and how much has changed since that vibrant decade.
Tuttle's recent lake day escapades provide a heartwarming glimpse into family fun, complete with his daughter's near-perfect surfboard trick and his youngest son's fearless boat stunts, underscoring the joy and bond of spending quality time with loved ones.
The episode takes a lively turn as we explore a mix of sensational topics, from the decline of Playboy to viral internet phenomena and the stark realities of aging. We share humorous tales of lawn-mowing mishaps, reflect on the unpredictable nature of natural disasters, and marvel at the extraordinary journey of Tuttle's brother trekking over 1,000 miles.
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show Calvin.
Speaker 2:Danny Calvin Dude, you're wearing some A&M colors there. How about them in the College World Series?
Speaker 3:Not really the reason I wore them, but hey, we'll go with it there you go. Kev. I've always had an issue with A&M. Why Don't you remember early on in our career at 93Q, we just got to Houston and I made, like an Aggie joke, uh-huh, and they wanted to crucify me.
Speaker 2:I think what that comes down to is we were new and we hadn't been kind of ingratiated into the texas community. Um, they have great senses of humor and I think once they, once you know, it's kind of like somebody joined the club.
Speaker 3:You don't just go in and joke around right away I get it, I see what you're talking about, but but, man, you remember that though they were uh, they, they were on message boards and email campaign. They were like you got to fire this guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah no. And I was like lighten up man. They're very impassioned.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was like Jesus, are you kidding? You hear me talking about my two kids. They're very young and you want to fire me because you can't take a fucking joke. I was angry about that for a long time.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you were. I'm sure you were.
Speaker 3:I'm just like get over yourselves. Okay, it's just football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was angry with UT and A&M because when I played college baseball at Texas State they kicked our ass. Both teams did.
Speaker 3:I was angry at UT because you know that was Audrey's dream school to play volleyball at yeah, and she ut, because you know that was audrey's dream school to play volleyball at yeah, and she's like an all american and everything. And she emails the coach and he never even acknowledged her existence, no way, but he was always on the sideline. You know, there she's recruiting. You know he's got madison skinner right now, maddie skinner who's won three national championships. She was on audrey's team, uh-huh, right, yeah, so he was always over there. But oh, you know, here's like a, like a libero, all American just emailing all the time I love you, but doesn't even return an email. So I was like fuck you, dude, just at least return the email and say, hey, congratulations on being an all American. I do see you play, you know when I'm watching, and you're really, really good, but we're not recruiting libero for your class.
Speaker 3:Just say something like that that's all you have to say. Just acknowledge it's. Uh, I think it's jared elliott or something like that. I've always had a problem. But just just return an email man, just say, hey, it's all you got to do. Even even if it's obviously a cut and paste template, I don't give a shit man to completely ignore an all-american and you're right on the court the whole time. I I mean that to me is pretentious.
Speaker 2:I mean, what do you got going on all day that you can't just sit there and return an email?
Speaker 3:Well, even if he doesn't do it directly, his assistants or whatever yeah, cut and paste. There you go, cut and paste. Anyway, I'm sorry, I got off on that tangent there.
Speaker 2:No, it's okay Because it brings up something that I just read this morning that is not on the battle plan to talk about. But you talk about cancel culture. Okay, you know you were almost canceled right off the bat by A&M fans. Yeah, people want to cancel Ariana Grande now.
Speaker 3:What did she do this time?
Speaker 2:In an interview she said that if she could choose one person to have dinner with, she would choose Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 4:But it was with a parent. Someone said, if you could have dinner with anyone, living or dead, who would it be? And I was like, oh, you're so cute. Who, mom and dad? Is it OK if I give the real answer? And they were like, sure, I guess what's the answer? And I was like, I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer is pretty fascinating. I think I would have loved to have met him.
Speaker 2:And people are saying, oh, that's sick, that's, that's disgusting, you're, you're a weirdo and they're trying to cancel her.
Speaker 3:First off, to anybody that that has that, I want to cancel you. I want to end you, fuck you. You are the evil, motherfucking, most evil pieces of shit walking the planet right now. You know that is evil because of words, because of you know somebody is opens up and says, hey, yeah, I know he was a murderer and a killer and everything like that, but it'd be interesting to have a meal with him to see where he's coming from, see if you can find you know what went wrong or you know what the whole malfunction is.
Speaker 2:Yeah. When the interviewer pressed her on that and said why would you want to have dinner with a convicted serial killer who killed? The majority of his victims were minorities she goes. I have a lot of questions.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Yeah, I have a lot of questions. I want to learn, I want information, I want to you know, maybe find out a piece of information that helps in the future to avoid these things. Well, you need to be canceled. Why? Because I wake up every single morning looking for something. To be outraged, because I'm a fucking loser with childhood issues that I haven't gotten out yet. Cancel culture, people Fuck you.
Speaker 2:You know, one of my top three episodes on the Fuzzy Mike is the interview I did with the author of Grilling Dahmer. You know people can want to cancel others all day long for wanting to find out more about serial killers, but you know you're reading it.
Speaker 3:You know you're interested in it, kev. How's this for a movie? Yeah, a serial killer is out there looking for cancelers. This guy had a great career, a family, everybody loved him, and then he said something that somebody didn't like. It wasn't even really that bad and he got canceled by this person. So he goes crazy, loses his family, loses his job and suddenly he's hunting cancelers. Is that a? I mean, that would never be green lit, because you know Hollywood is the apex predator of political correctness. But you know that would be an interesting take, wouldn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 2:just merely suggesting that you've already been canceled. Yeah, it would be a cool movie though.
Speaker 3:It's like I always said if you cancel me, you better be really clean, because I'm going through all of your social media, I may even hire a private investigator, find out a thing or two about you and I'm coming after you.
Speaker 2:Nobody's that clean, Nobody Hell, even the Pope. Now, Even the Pope, he in speeches has used homophobic slurs to describe the gay culture.
Speaker 5:Pope Francis reportedly used a highly derogatory term towards the LGBT community in a recent closed-door meeting with Italian bishops, where he reiterated that gay people should not be allowed to become priests. Italy's two largest daily papers both quoted the pontiff as saying seminaries or priesthood colleges are already too full of frociagine, a vulgar Italian term roughly translating as faggotness.
Speaker 2:The pope was supposed to be the most sanctimonious person on the planet for the Catholic religion.
Speaker 3:No, no. The most sanctimonious are these people who are going to tell you what you can say and what you can do. They're the most sanctimonious. Bow down to you, Ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3:Kev. Funny thing. I dropped my kids off yesterday uh yesterday, uh at their mom's place and I came back and I pulled into a place to get some gas but it was a strip mall right there and I suddenly slammed on the brakes and I looked at the sign. I saw it wrong. It said hot Asian grill, hot Asian grill, hot Asian Grill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys are real good on that spelling.
Speaker 3:What are you doing, tuttle? Wake up, wake up. Yeah, we had a lake day this weekend with the kids.
Speaker 2:I saw the picture this morning. It looked fantastic.
Speaker 3:Oh, we had so much fun. First off we went, it was my daughter's boyfriend of six years and you know they're probably going to end up being married, brandon you've met Brandon before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if he hangs around for another year, it's common law, so you might as well just go full.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's, and he's the greatest kid. I mean, as a father of a daughter, I couldn't order a better you know person for my daughter. Yeah, he is kind, he is nice, he does everything right, he cooks for her, he takes good care of her. He's not shady and sleazy like most 20-something guys.
Speaker 2:It's the kind of person you hope that your child finds in their life. You know you would order this person up for your kid.
Speaker 3:And you know his parents. We were with his stepdad Ryan, great guy, one of us, kev.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 3:Rock guy cranking out the rock and we're singing along with it on the boat and everything like that. I mean he's a great guy. Ryan is Way to go, ryan.
Speaker 2:He's a guy that I don't actually be friends with, but I don't like to get too close because I don't want to embarrass Audrey. You know what I'm saying? Oh, she's been plenty embarrassed.
Speaker 3:I mean there's nothing else you could do. Buddy, I mean he's a dude I could hang with regularly. I just you know, that's cool. And his wife, Brandon's mother, Kelly, great lady, she's a nurse, she's really, really down to earth. I mean this is the kindest people and they love my kids, all of my kids. Obviously, Audrey and Jonas get a kick out of Dallas and Timmy, you know, really funny. So we were having a good time. I mean Audrey's showing some great skills. Almost did a 360 on the surfboard.
Speaker 3:Really, she almost got it Nice, yeah, almost man. Do you see in the end, though, how she's going down in the water and kind of swirling in the water and she does that, ah, shit, yeah, as she's going down, she's still competitive, oh, very competitive, and she almost. I mean, it was ridiculous, Ke. I want to, I want to show you this one right here. She actually got on the surfboard, uh, and tried to get up with timmy, and they we were laughing. It's like almost impossible because of the weight shift and the awkward weight and everything like that, I mean, and she, she got up with him for a few seconds. Look at this. Wow, is that crazy see.
Speaker 2:That's why ut should have at least responded to her, because she's determined exactly.
Speaker 3:I don't know what you're thinking, mr elliot. Yeah, yeah, anyway, it was funny because ryan, uh, brandon's stepdad and I were talking about it. We thought there's no way this is ever going to happen. This is a waste, waste. We were kind of like the, uh, the, the spectators when the wright brothers did their thing. They were like there is no way this is going. These guys are idiots. Look at that, that's gonna be airborne in a few minutes, you know. And then you're suddenly like whoa, okay, guess, I messed that up. Um, but yeah, we know we had, we had some fun. Um, you know, dallas is is having a great time smiling ear to ear and he's just a funny, funny kid. Dallas has got a great sense of humor and timmy are no fear whatsoever. Uh, um, he does not give a shit, kevin yeah, I figured that.
Speaker 2:Uh, as he grew up, I think you were gonna have to rein him in, because he'll be doing some dangerous shit if you let him oh, he just jumps out of the boat.
Speaker 3:It's my turn, let's go and just go ahead, doesn't care. You know, ryan and kelly were like without we. What's, what's up with that? We haven't seen that. I was like, oh yeah, timmy, timmy. You know, kev I don't know if you remember this or not Audrey Jonas and Dallas. I would always do the scary thing where I'd chase after them with a scary face going I'm going to get you and I'd do a weird walk and just chase after them and they would get scared as hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's amazing, they're well-adjusted this day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they would be freaking out, but Timmy is different. I would be like I, timmy is different. I would be like I'm gonna get you, timmy, be like, okay, I guess we're gonna go bring it. Dad, let's go. Didn't even stop, you know, it's like start swinging. Completely different. Oh yeah. Yeah, kev, you gotta have. You gotta scare the kids a little bit. You know you gotta get a little bit of that. You know, give them a little bit of that. Uh, you know a little that sauce, scare sauce. So they know how to deal with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's what my dad used to do Whenever we complained of an injury.
Speaker 3:He would go get his bathrobe on, he would put a mask on like a doctor's mask, and then he would grab the butcher knife and say okay, get up on the table I gotta tell you, my very earliest memory that I ever had was, um, my mom and dad would leave for dinner or something like that, and you know, it would be, uh, my older sister, uh, tina, and half brother freddie, and billy and jimmy, the twins, my half brother twins and suddenly the lights would all go out at night and it was just todd and me.
Speaker 3:Todd todd maybe was three years old, I'm four and a half or you know and and we're alone, walking in the house they would hide no way, dark house, I mean just dark, I mean they, they really. Obviously it was just a few minutes, but it seemed like it was forever. Oh yeah, we'd be like freddie, uh, tina, billy, jimmy, you know nothing. And then all of a sudden, all of them would just dive at our legs and freak us out, scare the shit out of us. Oh my god, oh yeah, yeah. And I told, I told tina about that, I that's like one of my earliest memories. It was that, it was that real, did that happen? And she goes yeah, I'm so sorry, we used to do that all the time.
Speaker 2:No wonder you're a fast runner.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and she said she's sorry. She's like apologetic about it. I'm like don't be a pilot. That was. That was awesome memory. Yeah, kev, I was four years old, having my endorphins popping like I'm jumping off of a building or something.
Speaker 2:Well, that's probably why you became an adrenaline junkie, because you had that happen so early. It just, you know, got in the system.
Speaker 3:Thanks Tina, billy, jimmy and Freddie. You got me chasing that high for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2:Kind of leads me to the idea that I have this week for the top three. Can we do it now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Klein's top three.
Speaker 2:So I can't take credit for the idea, because it was sent to us by somebody that listens to the program. His name's Lionel. My face is about to light up because I got to turn on the white on my computer screen. But Lionel says I was wondering if you ever run out of ideas for your show and I was wondering if you could share experiences from the 80s. He loves talking to people who grew up in the 80s because he was born in 77. So my idea is top three things you liked about the 80s Top three things I liked about the 80s.
Speaker 4:Greed is good, the point is ladies and gentlemen, that greed for lack of a better word is good.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Wall Street with Michael Douglas and Charlie Sheen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kev, I feel so bad that kids never got to experience, because now it's 24-7 around the clock. Saturday morning cartoons, oh yeah, those are great. I mean, every Gen X kid remembers, you know, justice League, speed Buggy, speed Racer, you know, they remember all of that Scooby-Ddoo and his, uh, his adventures, I mean, and we, that was there wasn't like 40 different channels or 100 different channels or whatever. Saturday morning you would watch saturday morning cartoons and it bonded an entire generation. That's why gen x is really tight. I think we're tight because we had those experiences and then monday morning at school we'd talk about you know what happened, justice league and you might, you know, you remember, and everything like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, looney tunes into Johnny quest into the baseball bunch with Tommy Lasorda oh yeah, the baseball bunch was great, and we can go on and on because, uh, uh, conjunction, we, we were, they were even teaching us cool, yeah you know with schoolhouse.
Speaker 4:Rocks. I'm just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill, and I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3:I hope and pray that I will, but today I am still just a bill.
Speaker 2:Isn't that great? Yeah, that was great. Conjunction, Junction. What's your function? We're moving out phrases.
Speaker 1:Remember that was great Conjunction junction. What's your?
Speaker 3:function. We're moving out phrases. I mean, it was so. It was such a big thing that, you know, rockers were doing their renditions of the schoolhouse rock songs. That bonded us. See, everything after that became splintered. It's like there's four million different ways you can go. You know, whereas us, as you know, even though we're the smallest amount in terms of the generation you know, we have the smallest population, generation wise we are bonded by pop culture like no other, like no other generation has ever been or has been since. You know.
Speaker 2:Nor will they be. I don't believe. No, everything's splintered now?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, nor will they be, I don't believe. No, everything's splintered now. Yeah, yeah, you got.
Speaker 2:You got four trillion options now tiktok, youtube, whatever tv channel, whatever streaming, you know well, we didn't have the internet back then, so one of the things that bonded us and one of the things that I miss about the 80s is kick the can. Oh yeah, you played kick the can with the neighborhood kids in the dark at night kick the can was awesome.
Speaker 3:You had you the dark at night. Kick the can was awesome. You had one team and then a second team. Second team went hiding and the one team that defended the can. They had to go and find and tag out the team before somebody from that team kicked that can. That's right, if they kick the can you got to be the team again.
Speaker 3:And we had some really extensive and got started getting really intricate with it back in the 80s. You know, early 80s that was a huge thing. Oh yeah, oh, we got nightfall coming. Kevin, you ready for some kick the can?
Speaker 2:Do you ever have any cute neighborhood girls? That, of course. Yeah, that was a great part of kick the can.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, you get to hide with. You get to hide with the uh neighbor girl. Hey, no, no, we got. Hey, uh, marine, we gotta stay here. Oh, somebody's coming, but you could just lay right on top of me here, go ahead. We're down in the, down in the bushes, you know. Yeah, just keep trying to keep really, really quiet. Oh, no, no, no, no. That's a roll of quarters I got from my house for for car wash see, tim got a roll of quarters, mine a roll of dimes sorry about that, kev, but okay, like, where were we?
Speaker 3:okay, obviously, pop culture bonding kicked the can. I mean our, our outdoor activities. That's a huge one too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what we did outdoors, uh, was huge, because you can't do it today because the scary stuff that happens in neighborhoods you know. The parents would just let us go outside and at 11 o'clock at night they'd be like where are you?
Speaker 3:Right, okay, as we've seen in the news, here in Houston you actually have predators that are hunting for 11, 12, 13 year old kids now. So thank you. Thank you very much for worrying so fucking much about the Ukraine and all that shit that you don't give a fuck what's going on with your own children in your own neighborhoods. You evil fucks. There will be a day that you will have to pay for those sins.
Speaker 2:Well, now that you're talking a little bit of politics, that was. One of the things that I miss about the 80s was that you didn't have all this divisiveness, didn't Reagan have like a massive?
Speaker 3:destroyed Mondale.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, regardless of what side you're on, I just wish that we came together. I was never more patriotic than when Ronald Reagan was in office. I was never more patriotic than Mr Gorbachev Teared down this wall and, kevin, you can have disagreements.
Speaker 3:You know, I remember, as we were getting older, in the late eighties, you know we would start to get our own opinions about how things are and how they should be. And you always had friends, particularly in college, on all different spectrums, but you would hear them out and sometimes they would change your mind. Yeah, you know, sometimes they'd be like they would say something to be like you know what. I didn't even think of that. You can, you know. But now it's just like blue or red or you're dead.
Speaker 2:That's so screwball, that is that's. You can't learn that way, you can't grow that way you're in a cult man you're in a cult.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and again all that that. Eventually that'll all wilt away and rot away and you'll be embarrassed that you were that culty and do you have a?
Speaker 2:do you have a third thing?
Speaker 3:uh, my third thing that I loved about the 80s was I loved how daring we were with the ridiculous clothing.
Speaker 2:How many parachute pants did you have? I didn't.
Speaker 3:I had one pair of parachute pants. I wore them once. I got teased for them and never wore them again. But I had, you know, I had Kev. You know. You know you pin the. We used to pin the jeans and the. I was big on the hookah shells. You know, I had those necklacesaces. That was a big thing for me. I always had those very douchey. But also the hairdos were bold. I mean, the women had the frizzed up. You know uh hair, the big hair and the guys we had mullets.
Speaker 2:We didn't give a shit I had a mullet, you had a mullet I did too every single day. The girls would use an entire can of Aquanet hairspray to get their hair to stand up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know I would keep it short in the front and man, I had that thing down to about here. It's got to look good coming out of the football helmet.
Speaker 2:That was business in the front party, in the back right.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly, yeah, so that was very important. Oh, speaking of fashion, kev, I was on the uh tail end of that, uh, the half shirt football jersey, oh, okay, yeah, where he showed the midriff. Yeah, yeah, I mean we it was, it was, I mean that. And with the big bullet in the back and the midriff showing, I mean it was doucheville like you would never believe you don't see that in the pros, you only see it in college.
Speaker 2:Does the pro do the pros? Does the NFL have a strict uniform policy?
Speaker 3:Well, everything is. You know, Kev you? You've heard stories of people being fined for putting you know a little trinket that their kid gave them for good luck on their shoe, or something like that.
Speaker 2:No fun league yeah.
Speaker 3:No fun, no fun league. They love that totalitarian fascism. They're really down with it. But yeah, I would say those are mine and what are yours.
Speaker 2:Well, we already got to the unity of the country. I thought this was towards the latter part of the 80s. You were talking about fashion my MC Hammer pants.
Speaker 3:I think that's early 90s.
Speaker 2:Is it Okay? Yeah Well.
Speaker 3:I think Hammer and Vanilla Ice were 1990 and 91.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably so, because I think I remember the girl that I went to college with was one of the dancers at the local club, not strip club, but you know, like Todd Newton, remember him, our good friend Todd Newton. He used to host a dance show in St Louis and Vanilla Todd Newton, remember him. Yeah, our good friend Todd Newton. He used to host a dance show in St Louis, nice, and Vanilla. Ice was all the rage and Kim was over there all the time dancing.
Speaker 3:So yeah, See, my friends and I, we were the douchebags that would come in 15 minutes before closing and just walk out with the ladies. It was too easy, man, you got to remember Ball State was three to one girls a guy.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, at 1 45 AM, they're looking around and then you're walking in. It's like, well, hold up, sweetheart, hold on. I got to go to the bathroom first. Come on, calm down. Oh yeah, those were the days Fun times. Absolutely, kevin Klein. Calm down. Yeah, oh yeah, those were the days fun times. Absolutely, kevin klein, I, you, we just brought up your wife and I just want to say I believe this is trisha's birthday.
Speaker 2:It is trisha's birthday today. Thanks for remembering happy birthday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I I've always remembered the uh 23rd, 24th, 25th was a trifecta. My mom's was yesterday. She was 88 yesterday yeah, happy belated maw uh, and trish is today the 24th.
Speaker 3:uh-huh happy birthday to her. By the way, I was talking, I had a nice little phone chat, uh, yesterday with my brother todd. He came up off the trail yeah, the appalachian trail just for a little bit. Uh, um, he's at the halfway point now. Wow, harper's ferry, west virginia. He follows us, um, on facebook the tuttle and klein facebook, yeah, and it's a really good facebook page, and he was complimenting he's like who and it's a really good Facebook page and he was complimenting he's like who does that? It's really captivating stuff and interesting. I was like that's Kevin's wife Trish. Yeah, she nails it, she's really good at it. So happy birthday to her and please pass on compliments that my brother gave about how well she is handling the Tuttle Cline page. I will do that. And then AJ, is she tomorrow? Audrey Jean is 23 years old tomorrow. Is that crazy or what?
Speaker 2:I remember holding her when she was first born.
Speaker 3:Unbelievable how that happened. I just and she's such a great, responsible kid, just you know so good to her little brothers, all of her little brothers, just such a good big sister. I couldn't be happier. So I just wanted to throw that in there real quick. And now we need to go on to the very, very important stuff Kevin Klein is in a battle a weekly battle, I guess with your lawn.
Speaker 2:I almost made a massive mistake this past week. See, we talked about this before that. I mow the lawn and I, I, I push, mow it and I always, you know, take away some of the monotony. I always try and do patterns. Okay, yes, Well, in the front yard this time I decided I'm going to start in one corner and I'm going to go diagonal to the other corner. Then I'm going to come up, go to this corner and go down to the other corner, and then I'm going to come up, go to this corner and go down to the other corner and then I'm going to fill in the triangles with more triangles. Yeah, I got three quarters of the way done and I'm like, you know, if somebody comes over this with a drone, it's going to look like the Confederate flag.
Speaker 3:I'm saying I was thinking that, I was trying to think that, right there, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I abandoned that project that is so funny. Yep, but that project, that is so funny, yep. But you know, when you look at it from the, when you look at it from the street, it looks like a bunch of zigzags. So it actually would have turned out Okay. Just uh, I would have had to be FAA and not let drones go overhead, I hey.
Speaker 3:I got to ask you uh, um, speaking of a Confederate flag, Missouri, I can't remember. Were they north or south in the Civil War? I don't remember. What Kevin will do is in post-editing, is he'll flash it on the screen? Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, we're so stupid.
Speaker 2:Totally knew that.
Speaker 3:How did we forget that? Oh my gosh, we knew that the whole time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's the beauty of post-editing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, the beauty of post editing, yeah, yeah. So thank you. Post editing, kevin.
Speaker 2:If you're listening to this, you don't know the real answer, but if you're watching it now, you do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you won't know the real answer. So this is a good chance right now to go to youtube and view exactly what it is so thank you future. Thank you, future, kevin, for getting that in there. You're very welcome um let's, uh, let's talk about some rabbit holes. Kevin klein. Okay, let's, kevin Klein, okay, let's first off. I got into two, did you? One of them was stairway to heaven reaction videos.
Speaker 3:Oh people who have never heard stairway to heaven by Led Zeppelin. They would video themselves while they were listening to it the first time and Kev, particularly black people. It is so awesome, awesome, awesome to watch them. I didn't think the song could get better. Okay, that was incredible. Had my face twitching. I mean, it's just so precious.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's just like god damn you know, yeah, I mean, it's just so cool for people to experience for the first time. You know something like that? And I remember watching one of them, um, where it was a black dude. Uh, he listened to stairway heaven for the first time and he actually had tears in his eyes. I can believe that. And he said I'm sorry, I feel awful. I'm 27 years old, I have never heard this song and he's like what a waste. And then in the comments his dad commented and said oh shoot, sorry, son, nobody's fault but mine.
Speaker 4:Oh, no way. Nobody's fault but mine.
Speaker 2:Another Led Zeppelin song. That's beautiful.
Speaker 3:Isn't that hilarious? Yeah, oh, and I'm just thinking right there. It's like oh, his dad knows Zeppelin. See, as a parent, if you listen to Led Zeppelin, you owe it to your children to expose them to it.
Speaker 2:Because you are the aficionado on Led Zeppelin and you're talking about black people's reaction to hearing Stairway to Heaven for the first time, isn't Led Zeppelin? When you break them down as a rock band, aren't they a blues band at heart?
Speaker 3:They are a blues band completely. They down as a rock band. Aren't they a blues band at heart? They are a blues band completely, they're, they're. They're a blues band with teeth. Yeah, yeah, uh, and you know they did. You know we were just talking about nobody's fault but mine. That's a robert johnson, the very famous black bluesman from I think it was the 1920s or something like that. He was.
Speaker 2:He was one of the first. As a matter of fact, he was probably the first person to ever get canceled because they thought he was the devil yeah, I'm gonna see shredding and playing the blues and I mean it was amazing, robert johnson.
Speaker 3:So again, that's one of those. Hey, led zeppelin is an offshoot of the black blues. Yeah, so you know that, credit where credit's due. And and, by the way, robert johnson's family always told led zeppelin that that their rendition of nobody's fault but mine would make uh robert cry because they're there.
Speaker 2:He would just be like that is amazing I wonder what robert would do with dread zeppelin's cover of Nobody's Fault but Mine. Yeah if you're not familiar with Dread Zeppelin, it is an Elvis impersonator with reggae music to Led Zeppelin songs Very creative.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's very creative, yeah. And then you go into what is it?
Speaker 1:Richard Cheese, dick Cheese, and then all of this, yeah, this is a song by a woman who's shopping Ow.
Speaker 4:There's a lady in the show, all that glitters is gold and she's purchasing a stairway to heaven.
Speaker 2:We used to hang out with him back in the 90s. Absolutely Yep, he's still doing it, man, he's still cranking them out.
Speaker 3:Oh, I know. I mean he would take all kinds of different hits and he would, you know, lounge them up, hey baby, I just bought his most recent CD, did you really yeah? Yeah, yeah, remember they recent cd, did you really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they tried to. Can't remember they tried to cancel him in the 90s too, of course, because he did nirvana's rape me. Here's one for the ladies rape me, rape me, my friend, you know obviously outrage and everything like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a lounge act.
Speaker 3:Well, it's a lounge act, and the rape that Kurt Cobain was talking about from Nirvana had nothing to do with sexual at all.
Speaker 2:No, it was about the record companies and their royalty fees and how much they're trying to take away from the people who actually make the music.
Speaker 3:Exactly that's what he was singing about with the rate me. So yeah, and he didn't understand. Anyway, I mean, but that's our, that's our culture, our cancel culture is like they just see the title of the song rate, rate me and they're like, oh, I'm automatically outraged, I'm not, I'm not going to look into it, I'm not going to listen to it, I'm not going to get the artist's perspective.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have a knee-jerk reaction because all I am to this world is somebody who gets outraged and wants to cancel and destroy people. Yeah, it's pretty crazy to me that. I mean it's from the perspective of popularity, I'm sure. But you know, people tried to cancel rape me, but they're totally cool with Cannibal Corp Fucked with a knife. Never heard anybody trying to cancel that it's so random Kev it is really.
Speaker 3:I think it just becomes well, it's your turn to be canceled.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're your number.
Speaker 3:It wasn't Cannibal Corp's turn. We'll get to them later. It was just your turn Because we're random, because we don't have to be normal, regular type people. Uh, another one, I was kidding. I noticed on one of my streaming services that they have all of the episodes of the match game from the 70s, do they really? Oh, my god, kev, I was just going one to the. It was. I was just going from one to the other to the other. It was one of those things where, you know, my tv was asking me hey, are you still watching this shit?
Speaker 3:right it's like tomorrow, dude, are you still there and I have to go?
Speaker 2:yes, I'm still watching, and you're embarrassed with the long gene rayburn with the long microphone oh, gene rayburn, I mean kev.
Speaker 3:This is where they're smoking. They're drinking scotch right there. You can see them half buzzed. Richard Dawson Celebrities.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Richard Dawson, right in the front row man.
Speaker 3:So smooth. Front row middle, richard Dawson. He's the go-to guy, the guy that's really good at the game, and all the contestants would go to him to get the big money. They would ask him I wonder if the other celebrities ever got upset at that, because anytime you go in for the fast money they would always choose the celebrity Richard Dawson. And I'll maybe wonder you know, did Brett Summers or Charles Nelson Riley or, you know, betty White? Did they ever get like, hey, I'm here too, you know.
Speaker 2:I doubt it. I doubt it. With Betty White, charles Nelson Riley, I could see him getting a little uppity.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean he was pretty good.
Speaker 3:Charles Nelson Riley was pretty good at the game, but it's for some reason Richard Dawson had the zone in his own, like he knew what people would answer and then he would know what the the crowd would answer on the the panel ones. But another interesting thing about when you're watching match game in the seventies, kev, and maybe you could put a comparison up here this is Betty white in 1978. This is Betty white shortly before her death A few years ago. She looked the same. Yeah, I don't think that she aged at all. I think she and I I hate to say I think she and I I hate to say this. After the fact and I know what a big fan you are of Betty white she had to have a deal with the devil.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know what her, what her, her, uh, soul situation was, but no, she never did age. I mean, if you go back and look at her when she was 2021 and into the industry, she was incredibly beautiful and another interesting thing when we were watching match game is you're trying, as you're thinking of, trying to think of.
Speaker 3:You know how people answer. You got to put yourself in 1977 mind frame.
Speaker 2:Yes, like the answers would be completely different now but you know there was so much innuendo on that.
Speaker 3:Show back that is not pc at all. That show there. They toss his pc out the window. Yeah, I. They just didn't. They didn't give a shit. You know richard dawson started kissing the female contestants. You know you got gene rayburn rubbing up against him. Everything is innuendo, everything is chauvinistic, you know everything. Poor Nipsey Russell. I mean Nipsey Russell, I mean openly racist shit.
Speaker 4:To Nipsey Russell, the world's dumbest advertising agency, Jackie. They just hired Nipsey Russell to do a commercial for blank.
Speaker 2:I can't think of anything. All I can't think of anything.
Speaker 4:I like to think of soft drinks nothing came to your mind except soft drinks. Face if she's answer last and see what he said. You are first First, bleach, bleach, whatever good TV I want to talk to you right after the show. I'll get you up to the commercial For Whitewash.
Speaker 4:Whitewash oh, that's wrong here. I got better treatment explaining it to Greg. I got better treatment explaining it to Greg. I got better treatment explaining it to Greg. I got better treatment explaining it to Greg, I got better treatment explaining it to Greg, I got better treatment. Whitewash I've got better treatment explaining integration to a lynch mob. What do you got for Nipsey here, darling, is he sitting down? Yes, he's sitting down, I'm sitting down. Ivory snow Ivory snow 99.44, 100% pure. That's what everybody's saying about you. What do you say about this, chuck? We're going to get letters. Oh are we. We'll send them all to Nipsey.
Speaker 4:No, you're going to get some telegrams, icbs. Listen, all the mail comes in. Just send it right on to Nipsey. Okay, I'll take it now. Support Mayor Bradley, whatever you do. Spokesman for yes, white Front Store, white Front Store. That's funny. Well, okay, the dumbest advertising agency in the world hired Nipsey Russell to do a commercial, for they really were dumb and they were ignorant, and they were all of that and more. How dumb were they? They were so dumb. They hired Nipsey Russell to do the Ku Klux Klan, clucks Clan. Okay, okay, I don't know if I want to participate in this. What do you say? Athens Baptist Shall? I show them my answer. They were so dumb. They hired Nipsey Russell to do an ad for suntan lights. Yeah, to do an ad for suntan, but it was just blatant.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh my god, dude, you can't say that to nipsey russell oh, I mean back then blazing saddles came out in the 70s.
Speaker 2:You know it was just a different time, oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm not saying it was a better time or a worse time, it was just way different. But you know, the office kind of is bringing that back or the office did bring that back all right, it's.
Speaker 3:It's stuff like have, like you know when, a when, a, uh, a contestant, a celebrity contestant, would offer a bad answer. The audience would boo and, like Nipsey Russell would have a bad answer. And then there'd be somebody from the panel who's had one too many scotches going. Ah, he doesn't care, nipsey doesn't care, he's just glad his family's free now. You know, yeah, like it's nothing. And there's poor Nipsey Russell in the upper right.
Speaker 2:Just have the smile and go along with it they should have done like a backstage scene, you know, like inside the match game studio or something where you can see the real relationships documentary of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I want to know because I can't tell Kev. I want to know if Brett Summers and Charles Nelson Riley either they either love each other or they fucking hate each other. I want to know which one it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we'll never know now, but.
Speaker 3:It's just because sometimes you can sense this huge, huge tension and sometimes you know they show affection towards each other, they got each other's back and everything like that.
Speaker 2:But I go back again to the Office which you got me turned on to thank you very much. Uh, I in in the show. Uh, angela and pam hate each other. In real life.
Speaker 3:They're best friends oh, they're best buds they host their own podcast yeah, don't they have a podcast together? Yeah, yeah they do. Yeah, yeah, so yeah that's. You just never know. No, you don't OK. Yeah, what was your rabbit hole? You got caught in.
Speaker 2:Well, yesterday we went to a movie, trish and I and I just it was called Right here, right Now, rite RITE, and it's a concert footage of the band Ghost, whom I love.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it was only out for a weekend. It came out on Friday and it's already done.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, all right. Yeah, have you ever heard of them? No, I have not.
Speaker 2:Okay, they won a Grammy about eight, nine years ago for a song called Cerise C-I-R-I-C-E. The video is fantastic.
Speaker 1:So look I-R-I-C-E, the video is fantastic. Look it up, you might like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're Swedish, yeah, but they're great, they're really great.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, thank you very much for the heads up there, kev. I just thought that I just remember. So I kind of had a sub rabbit hole, another sub rabbit hole. Okay, do you ever have this happen? Where you're, you're like you go to YouTube and you know they. They build the algorithm to try to get you to click yes, and it's really good algorithm. It's like it knows you. Yes, and they had the documentary which I've never seen like a really extensive documentary on Charles Whitman.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the mass murderer was sniping UT students and UT administration and staff and just innocent bystanders, killed 15 of them and injured like 30 others. But I got caught on that and caught down that rabbit hole and it shocked me I didn't know this that he was actually married at St Michael's Catholic Church in Needville, Tennessee. Needville, Tennessee, or Needville, Texas, Needville, Texas. I don't know why I said that Needville. Yeah, I guess his wife's family they were Blue Jays.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that about him, yeah. I mean, we just know about the killing we don't know about yeah, exactly, we didn't know the background.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but, kev, I was, I texted you about that, uh-huh, and I also texted you know some people I know that had needville connections a golf buddy of mine, uh uh, tim, I got and he grew up there and he's, he's like man. I never heard that and I was an altar boy and that was my church yeah never knew that whatsoever. And uh also, I, uh, I texted john breland who is uh?
Speaker 3:one of our famous uh needville residents yeah, he used to uh do sales for us at the radio station and he didn't know it either. He's like I had no idea either shit.
Speaker 2:John's practically a mayor down there. That's how much they swept that thing under the rug that he doesn't even know about it.
Speaker 3:Exactly I think I figured he would know every brick and mortar and every morsel of history. They swept that thing under the rug that he doesn't even know about it Exactly. I figured he would know every brick and mortar and every morsel of history in the town of Needville. Yeah, I don't know. If you remember there's another salesperson that we did business with, barbara Kelly. Remember her?
Speaker 2:I do remember Barbara Kelly. Yes, I do.
Speaker 3:She was on campus that day. She was a freshman at UT day, yeah, that day and I and I texted back. I was like, well, I didn't know that. Uh, fortunate for her that she was drunk that day and stumbled zigzag pattern in the square. He didn't respond back, though I thought that was hilarious. I got no response back from breland. So I was like, oh, it's something I said walking like riley strain in a downtown, nashville street I would have been hit by charles whitman, but I was drunk, zigzagging.
Speaker 3:I just, I just remember these poof of smokes and chunks of cement coming hitting around me for about four or five shots.
Speaker 2:Damn, that would have been scary, not knowing where they're coming from.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, oh, kevin, and the fact that you know the four guys that bum rushed him. Actually there's three that actually got there. One stayed behind and was, you know, handling some stuff, but three of them bum rush him and one of them was just a civilian, a guy that worked at the bookstore, you know, he just got done with active duty and he was a gunner, a plane gunner so, and he saw, he saw the smoke up there and everything like that, and it just ran towards the tower and goes up there and then two other cops uh Austin PD cops go in with with him and uh, you know, they both think he's an undercover detective. Right before they burst open the door he goes hey, are we playing for keeps? And both of them goes oh yeah, we're going to take him down and he goes. Well, one of you better deputize me then. And they both looked at each other, we thought he was undercover detective and they both, you know, one of them said ramirez said consider yourself deputized yeah, yeah and they went in.
Speaker 3:One went, uh, one went one way around the clock tower. The other two went the other way and they, they, they lit them up just a different breed of person.
Speaker 2:right there, man, people are going in towards danger.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're going in, yeah.
Speaker 2:God bless them.
Speaker 3:And you know, and one of them, you know, he just didn't, he didn't want to talk about it after that, cause they, they, they hailed him as a hero and you know, they really put him on a pedestal and he goes hey, I don't, I don't want any part of this. You know, a lot of lives lost. There's no adulation that belongs in this scenario, right here. Yeah, and he even asked, as he was sick on his deathbed, he asked the local newspaper hey, when you do my obit, can you not? Which, of course, they didn't.
Speaker 2:Good, well, no, no they didn't listen to him. Oh, they didn't listen to him.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, Because you got to have the headline.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do. But man, just give people what they want, especially if it's humility, and they don't want to be known for that. They just want to be known for the good job that they did.
Speaker 3:Another one of the officers just wore like a badge of honor everywhere. Okay so how much is this car? That's a little high. How much is this car for the guy who killed charles whitman?
Speaker 2:that's right, I am not gonna pay a lot for this muffler you know, oh, yeah, definitely that's so funny.
Speaker 3:Uh, you get to get some notice from the IRS that he owes taxes. Oh, are you sure I owe taxes? I guess I overlooked carrying the one last time, because I was thinking about when I killed Charles Whitman.
Speaker 2:And you're a rabbit hole with that. Did you ever, did they ever? Did he leave a note or anything about why he went berserk?
Speaker 3:uh, well, you know, he killed his wife, who was from needville right before 23 years old, and his mom. They were at two different apartments. He killed them because he didn't want them to be humiliated about what he was doing the next day oh, okay, all right, but but what they say is is they did a vivisection on his brain. He had a pecan-sized tumor.
Speaker 3:Really that they say may have like agitated and made him aggressive, made, got him upset, caused depression, caused issues okay, you know, that's believable because you know, if you go, if his friends even though he didn't have like a ton of friends, uh, you know the his friends and you know that he went to school with the friends that, uh, he was friends with in marines. They all said he was. You know, he's a jokester, an affable guy. His humor was a little dark, okay so. But you know, they're trying to make kevin and I'm thinking about that right there, they're talking about this is like hmm, you know, kevin and I don't have too many friends, all right, both of our sense of humor kind of dark. You could just see it afterwards. Oh, tuttle did that. Well, we saw that shit coming a mile away. Loner worked out all the time. That's it. That's it, yeah, works out all the time. We have hours and hours of audio of him with his dark humor. Oh, who didn't see this shit coming?
Speaker 2:yeah and then you would be the first one to describe me his longtime radio partner of 26 years.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you this.
Speaker 2:Dude, I beg for my life every day.
Speaker 3:One of the first conversations, deep conversations, I ever had with Kevin Kline, almost like 28 years ago, probably over 28 years ago now, over 28 years ago now. He's telling me that if you were a serial killer and you didn't want to get caught, he said the thing to do is have one in one state, one of the have victim in another state, just go state to state. And he's telling me this you know cause? Kevin has done at that point, even in the mid nineties, has done vast research on serial killers, even without the Internet. He didn't care, he didn't, he didn't need a fucking Internet. He go to the library or look something up about him or any kind of video that he could get of him. But you said that to me, like you said hey, man, that would be the thing of the 50 states killer, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've actually talked to an undercover vice, a state trooper from Missouri, and he's undercover and I asked him. I said how long could hypothetically a person go to? If they wanted to murder somebody in every state, how many times could they go around? He says, well, if you don't have a pattern of if you're not murdering somebody the same way, if you're using different methods, he goes. You could go on for probably the rest of your life, he said. But if you do it the same way, they're going to catch you.
Speaker 3:So what? Yeah, and that was another thing Kevin was telling me is, like you know, first off, you do it in one per state because they don't, they're very guarded, they don't like to talk about their stuff with other states. Uh, it takes a while for their, for a quote-unquote federal task force to come in. And then kevin also said change up your modus operandi and your methodology yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And my officer friend said you could go, probably the rest of your life and, as kevin's telling me this, we're both in our mid-20s and I'm looking at at him and I'm like, okay, so I'm going to have a career in radio with this guy.
Speaker 2:Yep, here we are, 30 years later.
Speaker 3:And I'm telling you know, kathy, my fiancé slash soon-to-be wife Audrey and Jonas' mom, I'm like, hey, if I ever go missing, it's fucking Kevin Kline.
Speaker 2:Okay, but here's the thing I mean. It's no different than what Stephen King does. Stephen King writes horrific shit. It's just his mind and he gets it out.
Speaker 3:No, and that's the thing about both of us is we both have a conscious, we both are sympathetic. I could never really hurt anything or anyone.
Speaker 2:Dude, I was running in the cemetery again yesterday and there was a groundhog that literally let me pet it yesterday and I'm like little buddy, I did a video. Here's the video what you doing, buddy. Did you get hit by a car? You should be moving. You shouldn't be this close to me. Oh, you're getting your picture taken. Oh, my, there's the buddy Drove by an hour later. Guess who's gone. Groundhog Got up and walked away.
Speaker 3:Kev, if I see a spider in here, I'll just try to like collect them on the dustpan really softly and gently and just flip them outside. Same here, Just go. Hey, little dude, you can't stay here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wrong place, buddy.
Speaker 3:Wrong place, but you know, be free, have a good life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Do whatever spider shit you do. Yep, no, I couldn't kill yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it at all somebody that's watching this. That is a sociopath, psycho, motherfucker, um, the fbi and all the investigators they can just search up if you're trying to copycat the ideas we just gave you. They can search up all the people who listen to this podcast that's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, methodology now to capture a possible serial killer I? I mean it's much more extensive than it was back when I was asking these questions in the late 80s, early 90s.
Speaker 3:Kev in watching some of this. Some of the ways that they catch you is just shocking. I mean, first off, if anybody in your family has done one of those Ancestrycom type things and given them that DNAna that's a database that the federal government taps into all the time sure, I mean if you have a phone, you're going to get traced, you're going to get tracked exactly, and even you having your phone off during the time of these.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's how they're getting, that's that. That was a big thing with the idaho killer coberger or alleged alleged killer, whatever is his big thing with the Idaho.
Speaker 2:Killer Koberger, Koberger Alleged killer Koberger.
Speaker 3:Yeah, whatever His big thing? One of his big things was this guy, constantly, 24-7, around the clock, every single day, for years and years, has his phone on and then suddenly it's off for an hour and a half. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 3:So that, right there, I mean it's off. Well, that's just a coincidence, isn't it? Abnormal behavior pattern. You know, the funny thing is kev is in this day and age. I mean, there's a camera, uh, everywhere. 75 I think I read this somewhere that's 75 of all urban areas, the every square inch can be covered by a camera.
Speaker 2:That much now 75%.
Speaker 3:Yes, and so they'll just track you. I mean, they'll pick you up on one thing and then, boom, that's your timeline. So, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, you're across town with a friend at a bar. Well, here we got you, 72 miles away, right near the crime scene, 15 minutes before the crime. Yeah, so you just your alibi, just hurts you, because now we caught you lying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, doesn't hold water. And yeah, you look more suspicious now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I mean if, if they really want to find you, they will find you.
Speaker 2:Exactly Yep. They certainly will.
Speaker 3:Yeah so uh, yeah so uh. Okay, I don't. I don't know how we got caught on that.
Speaker 2:It kind of leads me to uh something that I want to talk with you about and um uh there there are three viral uh videos that came out just uh the in the past, where the Edmonton Oilers fan got drunk and flashed the crowd. People wanted to know who that was and they finally found out. It's a woman named Kate K-A-I-T and she was getting all these porn offers from OnlyFans and Playboy. She actually has now appeared in Playboy, okay, and in her Playboy pictorial she gave the double bird. She flipped off the camera in Playboy. Now, when was the last time you saw playboy do something?
Speaker 3:like that. They, they do anything for attention.
Speaker 2:Now they're dead okay, so you got kate, who whips off her top and then becomes an internet celebrity. Then have you heard of the hawk to a girl?
Speaker 3:one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time, oh you gotta give him that huck too and spit on that thing.
Speaker 2:And then did you hear about the Tennessee Titans sales executive who is about Audrey's age, 23, 25, and she got pissed off at Dierks Bentley's bar, whiskey Row, because she was trying to sneak her boyfriend in and the bouncer wouldn't let her. So she, so she decks the bouncer in the head six times. You're flipping somebody off in in playboy. You're decking some bouncer six times. And then you're talking about spitting on a guy's member to keep him aroused. What is your thought as a 20 something, as a dad of a 20 something year old woman?
Speaker 3:First off, let me start off. I'll give you my thought as a you know what, if I was 22, 23 years old, I was like this is a great time to be alive. But as a father, you know, I mean, that's something that would just would kill you as a father If your kid went viral. For that, regardless of, I mean mean, you know, these women will probably benefit financially off the charts, uh, but still it's just like you're. That's all you're gonna hear at the golf course with your buddies. You know they're gonna. When you walk into restaurants, they're gonna be whispering. But, kev, I I think it's safe to say and I don't know if you can do the research on it or not that I would have to say that these women, for the most part, the majority of them, raised by a single parent.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:All right, yeah, that's the kind of stuff that doesn't come from a good, solid nuclear family but, yeah, the embarrassment that that has to leave on the family yeah, I mean that, yeah, you're, you're killing them, you know, you know, yeah, you're, yeah, exactly, I mean forever.
Speaker 3:That family is going to be known as the hawk to a family because, as we mentioned, with finding murderers, the internet found out her name too well, and more likely than not, that would be a family, uh, you know small, you know non-nuclear single-parent family, where they'll be like yeah, we're gonna sell t-shirts, get your hawk to a t-shirt here for a limited time. My daughter will, uh, do a video chat. Hawk to a you for only 1999, anyway, kev, did they really identify? Hawk to a girl?
Speaker 2:yeah, oh yeah yeah, they identified her.
Speaker 3:I mean look and what. What is she? What is you know? What's is she gonna be in? You know, on only fans or anything like that. Is that? Is that the gateway?
Speaker 2:I haven't, uh, I haven't heard that they've offered her anything. But they, they, they, they found out who she is. And the Edmonton Oilers fan and the Hawk to a girl took about 48 hours. Edmonton Oilers fan Kate took about 72 hours. It's not long.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll find out who you are. Yeah, somebody will talk. One of your friends will give you up. That's how it usually is.
Speaker 2:one of your friends will give you up that's what it was with a hawk to a girl yeah, yeah, I mean, that's how that, that's what works.
Speaker 3:Great, uh, uh, kev, uh, uh, what is it? It's grizzies, uh, um, on facebook and I have, I have her on facebook. Um, she's a lady in houston. Uh, you know, reports crimes and everything like that. You know her.
Speaker 2:Trish follows that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, god, I forget the exact name, but it's right here. So there it is right there. Yeah, she'll post like a video or a picture or something like that and you know hundreds and sometimes even thousands of comments. Somebody will rat on them, yeah, and HPD and local law enforcement. They should love what she's doing because she has solved a ton of crimes in Houston, because she's so viral.
Speaker 2:No, no, she took up the Snowdrop theft. She tried to help find the people who stole all our guitars.
Speaker 3:I did not know that. So Trish has had some dealings with her. Yes, grizzies, I I don't know, and it's just right there. Yeah, I'll get it from trish. You see how it is, kev, our memory, missouri. Uh, you know yeah, right yeah, and grizzies neighborhood. I'm so sorry it's a little foggy, we'll we? It's like the age thing it starts to hit you at the. It's like, uh, on the boat, kev.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not as crazy as I used to be, I'm more of a viewer now yep but I used to be the guy hey man, let's shred, dude, let's go give me the speed, baby, give me the speed.
Speaker 2:Now I'm like, oh, okay another thing you might miss from the 80s, your youth, because man injuries, we used to bounce back like that. Now, yeah, you get an injury. By the way, how's your shoulder?
Speaker 3:uh, I heard it on the water, oh shit. Yeah, I kind of tweaked it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna work out, uh today see how it is, but I'm gonna go slow.
Speaker 2:I't think it's but you've been dealing with that for like a month now, right, a few months now. Yeah, there you go. See, we don't bounce back as quickly.
Speaker 3:I never had any issues like that, ever. No, it's just something happened. It began about halfway through last year. It was like when I was trying to max out bench. You know, I had like 285 or something like that on the bar, 280 on the bar or something like that, and I did that twice and then just suddenly a week later couldn't do it and I'm like what? So I was like, okay, maybe I'm just a little tired, I'll have a little extra coffee, a little more sugar. Tried it the next time. Nothing. Wow. So you peak. You know, yeah, and that's it. It's like the eyes. You're going to need the 45s, You're going to need the cheaters. They call them 45s in England because that's the age you get them.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:But I can remember distinctively Kev, when I was 44 years old, I had the earbuds that used to have the L and the r, the left and the right, the l and the r right. And just one morning, you know, I was trying to see which earbud was the earbud and I couldn't read the l and the r. That's what it was. Huh, just one day yesterday I could read the l and the r, and then just the next day, at 44 years old, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2:I'm like now I've needed these things since and yet the crazy thing about is and you think you're going to outrun it and you're not, because we've always taken care of ourselves.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, we've. I mean, hey man for for a guy that's 205 pounds. Uh, at my age putting two 80 up on bench press twice that's a big deal.
Speaker 2:That is a big deal. It's a big deal for anybody to do that. And then age regardless of age, yeah so you know, I, I hung it.
Speaker 3:I hung in there as long as I can, yeah and I mean we just adjust. You know exactly, I can't run as fast as I used to, so I adjust my goals and I know there's some like uh, 30 somethings say you're years old, You're watching or listening right now and you're like look at these fucking clowns. What a bunch of fucking clowns. I'm just going to tell you this right now I was 32 years old back in 2002. It happens quick.
Speaker 2:It really does.
Speaker 3:Do not laugh. I mean because, Kev, I've told you that before. I used to laugh at how old people were. Uh-huh, yeah, you know, I, I would, I would just I would chuckle. I mean, I can remember when my dad, uh, turned 54 years old. I can remember it like yesterday. Yeah, he turned 54 years old and it was his birthday, uh, you know, April 8th, and I was just like, damn dad, that is fucking old man. And he said the same thing to me. That I just said to you is like Tim, I remember 14 years old, like it was yesterday. Be careful what you say.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, it's funny, we were talking about Audrey turning 23 tomorrow. I remember holding her in the hospital when she was born, like eight hours after she was on the earth. Remember, like it was yesterday Exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I got to tell you this. You're going to get a kick out of this. I think I got a friend of mine. He bought a house and got it really, really cheap. I mean, it was a big house, a lot of house for the money. And I'm like you got to find out what's wrong with it. Man, you know, don't pull the trigger until you find out what's wrong with it. And he was just so excited about you know how much house he got for that price that he didn't do that. He uh, he messages me, uh, over the weekend and he's like oh, timmy, he goes, uh, I found out what was wrong with the house. It's right on a flood zone. It's like I mean, it's like the first house that'll be completely underwater if we have a bad hurricane or something like that.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 3:And I was like, oh man, and you know, here we are in hurricane season, it's already pretty saturated out there. I said you better have a bug out bag for the kids and yourself ready to go during hurricane season and make sure you get out. He's like oh no, I'm not gonna get out, I'm gonna ride the storm out. What I don't like. Okay, you buy a house in the flood zone, you? You have some remorse for doing it. It's already saturated in houston. We're in hurricane season and you're gonna ride it out.
Speaker 3:He was one of one of those Kev. He bailed during Hurricane Ike back in 2008, where it became ridiculous on the roads yeah, and there was a lot of suffering going on on the roads when people are trying to evacuate back in 08. And he's just like I will never go through that again. And he goes don't worry about me, though, timmy, I've got flood insurance. I'm like insurance companies do not pay out corpses, right, exactly. And what do you think? Yeah, you're going to stay down and hunker down and you're going to have waters coming up. Are you going to hold your insurance policy out your door to the floodwaters and go? Hey, I got insurance policy out your door to the floodwaters and go hey, I got insurance and the water's going. Oh, hey, he's got insurance.
Speaker 4:Let's go around them to the other house, wouldn't that be funny.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, hey, you can't, you can't bother me. Look at this state firm policy right here, I'm good. I bundled and then you're. You're gurgling and going Jake where the fuck are you? Exactly, I was like man you're. You already got water on the brain, dude. You're not thinking right, man?
Speaker 2:Man, yeah, cause the wind it's. It's not the wind that does uh the, the, the bulk of um uh fatalities in hurricanes, it's the water rise, isn't it?
Speaker 3:I think you're right. I think it is the water rising people. But you know there's, there's. I mean a hurricane in a large city is its own thousand ways to die. Episode.
Speaker 2:Oh sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, you know, you got the electrocution from the downed power lines, you got trees suddenly falling on you, you got the flooding situation, you know. And then, don't forget, in the immediate aftermath, you got the looting.
Speaker 2:Right. Yes, you got the looting.
Speaker 3:I want that TV. Yeah, I mean, you got the looting right. Yes, you got the looting. I want that TV.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you could have flying debris flying to bro.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's another one man, jeez man. That's why I never understand these meteorologists that are putting these harm, harmful conditions like right in the straight in the in the path. I mean you, you could just be sitting there broadcasting thinking you're tough shit, you're just doing, I'm leaning into it, I'm fine, I'm putting my weight. That sign just come out of nowhere, take your fucking head off.
Speaker 2:Well, when Alberto made landfall the other day, there was a reporter and waves are lapping up over the seawall. She's standing on top of the seawall and waves are crashing over it.
Speaker 3:I'm on top of the seawall and waves are crashing over it. I'm like you're an idiot. Yeah, it's, it's like. It's like mother nature is uh up there going. Oh, we got another one. Okay, I think for this one. Uh, cue the car flipping over right on top of her yeah, am I right?
Speaker 2:I'm. I'm surprised more meteorologists don't get injured or killed.
Speaker 3:I can't believe it and, Kev, I can't believe you know, when plane crashes, that more people on the ground aren't killed. You see stuff like that. It's just like how didn't like not everybody in that neighborhood just completely go up in flames.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, even if it hits their house. You know there's just so much luck out there, so much randomness out there, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would. I would credit the pilots maybe on that. I mean they have something to do with it. But yeah, dude it it. Life is incredibly lucky.
Speaker 3:I just think it's. There's a, there's a master plan for people out there and even if it looks like it's your time, I mean something will go in there and oh, this guy's going to do something or this lady's going to do something important in the future. Let's, let's just barely like skim this one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Then they go on and murder somebody in all 50 states and they keep doing the circuit, and doing the circuit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, you were supposed to get a cure for cancer. You're brilliant. You use that shit for serial killing.
Speaker 2:Damn it.
Speaker 3:you're brilliant, you use that shit for serial killing. Damn it all right, that's a fun time kev.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much, buddy. I look forward to it. Every monday, man, I love tell audrey I said happy birthday.
Speaker 3:I'll uh, I'll reach out to her okay, yeah, and same, same with trish and yeah, yeah, again, trisha does such a great job with uh our facebook page. Go to the Tuttle Cline Facebook. It is really really good, really fun. We got our merchandise there. If you want to buy any merchandising, we would strongly ask. If you like the episode you just heard, please do us a favor, let your friends know and make sure you like and follow and download our stuff. The key with podcasts is downloading the episode uh, and give us a rating. We would love to uh for you to, you know, give us one of those five star ratings. That helps with the situation too. Okay, yeah, kevin Klein, what's coming up on the uh fuzzy Mike podcast this week?
Speaker 2:Uh, nothing new this week. I'm still reeling from, uh, the loss of our, our little dog. So I'm going to keep that episode up because a lot of people have been commenting on it, and my friend Carolyn, who also comments on the Tuttle Climb podcast, she said it's actually helping a lot of people who go through that grief of losing a pet. So I thought I'd kind of keep that one up there and then next week I'll have a new episode.
Speaker 3:Okay, I like that, ke, and then next week I'll have a new episode. Okay, I like that, Kev.
Speaker 2:Hey, what's the temperature like down there now?
Speaker 3:It's freaking hot as hell man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys run under that heat dome too.
Speaker 3:It's it, man, it's it. Yeah, we are full on Houston.
Speaker 2:It is nasty up here too. I mean, we had 92 degrees and 70% humidity the other day. It's so stifling.
Speaker 3:I can barely run in it, but it's all you know. It's like not just us, I mean, it's all over the place. Todd. Todd had to come down from the mountain, the appalachian trail, because the heat was so bad. He had to come down. They had to rest a little bit. So, wow, they're at the halfway uh mark right now. And you know he's, he's. He's like hey man, let's get to these northern states as soon as we can.
Speaker 2:Well shit, it's hot up there too 100 and something degrees this week in the northeast. Yeah, but he's over 1,000 miles in. He's over 1,000 miles in.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Golly man, that guy's a stud. Isn't that ridiculous? That's awesome. I'm so happy for him.
Speaker 3:It makes me want to do something like that, but on a like, a less scale. Okay, you know like I'm thinking of maybe going from uh, I don't know Mexican restaurant to Mexican restaurant here in Houston.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a. That's quite a few, so it might end. It might end up being 2000 miles.
Speaker 1:Tuttle's nacho trail tour Later man, that's it for this episode of the Tuttle and Klein show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode, and you can get more Klein on his podcast, the fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay, fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle and Klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
