Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #49: Boisterous Laughs With US Army Col. (Ret), Todd Tuttle
• Nickelback's transformation from celebrated rock band to industry punchline
• The struggle of binge-watching leading to unexpected morning sluggishness
• Kline's exciting new role as the public address announcer for the Springfield Cardinals
• Discussion on the NFL's rebranding to "sports entertainment" and its implications
• Tim's brother, Todd joins us for some nostalgic childhood stories, laughable antics, the lasting impact of family dynamics, reflections on life journeys and the beauty of shared experiences in contemporary culture
welcome to the Tuttle and Klein show okay, I wonder what song we're gonna get to start off with. Let's find out. Oh yeah, kevin. Kline oh man, I, right before I uh click the admit button, I always say I wonder what song we're gonna get this week. And and I heard you say oh yeah. And I started thinking, oh, we're going to get yellow, oh yeah, from Ferris Bueller. We didn't get anything. Look at that photograph. Yes, went a little Nickelback on us, huh, chad.
Speaker 3:Nickelback Wow, I don't know what happened there with Nickelback Kevv. I mean, one day they're on top of the world hit singles, left and right, everybody loves them, and literally the next day they're a punch line all throughout the nation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know what happened. I like their music, but they became like the symbol for corporate rock yeah, that's it, and I felt bad because you know I'm.
Speaker 3:I met chad when we were in Vegas.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I played blackjack with him, sat next to him, and he's the nicest guy.
Speaker 2:Chad Kroger, the lead singer for Nickelback.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know, at that time when I met him, you know he hadn't been hit as the punchline yet. So he's loving life and you know people waving to him and everything like that is a big deal.
Speaker 2:and then suddenly nickelbacks the joke yeah, and now he just flashes his bank account he doesn't care he doesn't, why would he care exactly?
Speaker 3:look at my bank account.
Speaker 2:It's really fucking huge just make my nose Make fun of me.
Speaker 3:All you want Avril. I miss you.
Speaker 2:Beautiful. Avril Lavigne. Avril Lavigne yeah, yeah, yeah, weren't they a thing? They were. They're both Canadian. That's why how you feeling, kev man. You know what, timmy? It's the tale of two weeks. Last week, I was absolutely miserable. This week, I've never had a week start off like this. It's crazy.
Speaker 3:I am Kev. I want to hear about your week, but I got to tell you in terms of feel, there's a new phenomenon that I've been suffering lately and I wonder if you've ever suffered this. Um, I'm a little hungover right now on what but yeah, it's not alcohol.
Speaker 3:I rarely drink. I mean, I rarely drink. Um, it's when you binge, watch one too many episodes the night before and you're just like, oh man, this I gotta watch, watch this, it's so good, but I know that I'm gonna zombie in the morning a little bit, you know. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:What are you hooked on?
Speaker 3:I just finished, landman.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 3:Freaking great show, isn't it awesome? That is a really, really good show. I, um, yeah, I uh, I am very, very surprised at how good that is, but not surprised because Billy Bob Thornton Kev I think he has taken over Alec Baldwin's position as probably the greatest living actor.
Speaker 2:Well, he is so versatile, you know, he can do drama, he can do comedy, he can do, I mean he can do action, he can do anything.
Speaker 3:I mean like just watch like something like Bad Santa, where you're just laughing your ass off yeah. And then watch him in something like Fargo or something like Landman and it's just like, wow, this is next level.
Speaker 2:So I think that that you know, uh, that he is the guy right now. Yeah, he's amazing, and you know what? For all intents and purposes? I mean taylor sheridan is just riding a massive wave of success right now.
Speaker 3:Everything he touches turns to gold oh yeah yeah, the creator and writer yeah, I mean I, I can recall. Can you recall, like somebody where it's like they're not only so high quality but so much? I can't recall any. I mean Sorkin with the West wing and that, all that other stuff that he did. That was pretty cool. Yeah, you know Cameron's movies, but he spaces them out Right, spielberg, spielberg, he spaces them out Right cool, yeah, you know Cameron's movies, but he spaces them out, Right Spielberg. Spielberg, he spaces them out.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah. Yeah, I mean this is one on top of the other, but you know what's really crazy about it, tim, is if you look at it, there were three spinoffs for Yellowstone. There could be numerous spinoffs for Landman. I mean, they barely touch upon the relationship between Billy Bob Thornton's son and his girlfriend. I guess now you could do a whole series on that stuff.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, and you can do a whole series if he lives on Jon Hamm's character.
Speaker 2:He is not, he died.
Speaker 3:Did he die?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't think that was OK. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, ok, I didn't think that was a Okay. Yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 2:Okay, I didn't think that was clear, yeah that was Yep, yep.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, I knew he was on last leg and they were making the preparations for the company afterwards.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Wow, okay, so he's gone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's gone All right.
Speaker 3:Scratch that spinoff.
Speaker 2:But wait till you see, lioness. Oh, brother, I got that in the pipeline right now. Yeah, you'll get.
Speaker 3:You'll get another. Uh, binge hangover on that one. Yeah, yeah, um. So congratulations are in order, kevin, we're gonna come out of the box with this. Uh, you landed a dream job and this is just an amazing thing. Kevin Klein, for those unaware, has always done some PA announce work in sports, and now you got a big one.
Speaker 2:I got the call up to the minor leagues. Timmy, you know, I played baseball for 22 years. Uh and uh, I was always waiting for that call from the pros and I got it all yesterday, monday, uh, because, uh, they hired me to be the fill-in public address. Announcer for the St Louis Cardinals AA affiliate Springfield Cardinals.
Speaker 2:Now by fill-in that means I won't do every game. What they said at the beginning, what they said in their initial email, was you might do one game per homestand. After talking with them in my interview last Thursday, it sounds like I'm going to get a few more opportunities than that, because I think they realize that I'm kind of competent. Number one and number two the regular public address announcer is a full-time employee. He's director of group sales, so he pits in 55 hours a week, so he's going to want a break.
Speaker 3:Okay, sales, so he pits in 55 hours a week so he's gonna want to break. Okay, uh, and me, knowing who you are, um, next year you'll be full-time because you'll bury this motherfucker well, I appreciate you saying that, but I don't know if I want to do 81, 81 home games.
Speaker 2:81 home games, that's 81 days out of your life, out of the year. Does minor leagues do they?
Speaker 3:do a 162 also. They have 81 home games. That's 81 days out of your life out of the year. Does minor leagues do they do a 162 also.
Speaker 2:They have 81 home games. Wow, yeah, I know yeah, they start April 3rd and they end September 15th.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, that's a hell of a schedule.
Speaker 2:And that's why they need a fill-in.
Speaker 3:How close is the ballpark to your house? Six miles, oh, that's so perfect.
Speaker 2:And you know what the interesting thing about the baseball field is. It's called Hammond's Field and it was voted last year. The number one playing surface of all baseball stadiums in America the infield and the outfield, the dirt and the grass.
Speaker 3:Number one playing surface in all minor league and major league baseball the dirt and the grass, number one playing surface in all minor league and major league baseball. That's awesome. So kevin quine, uh, never really into grass until now yes, I was all aboard the nancy reagan trail yeah, um, yeah.
Speaker 3:But let's talk about the perks. Now that you're in the pipeline, obviously free tickets to the AA teams games. Where does this put you in terms of the big club, the St Louis Cardinals? I mean, you know, certainly there'll be the occasional, since you're the fill-in PA announcer for their AA, that you could probably get comp tickets there when available. But will you be able to have any say, personnel decision making within the organization? You know some long-term strategy type stuff.
Speaker 2:I'll be the one making the call to the bullpen. They can easily see me up in the press box. I'll be making the call. Bring in the lefty, bring in the righty.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you know, obviously this is. You have a bigger plan here. You want to build the empire, the baseball empire.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm just, and I give all credit in the world to the Drury University hockey program for taking a flyer on me last year, and they wrote me a nice letter of recommendation, so it was really cool. Yeah, yeah, really nice.
Speaker 3:I just want to throw this out too, kev Sometime down the road, you know, as you're building your career, maybe you know nine, ten years from now, you know nine, 10 years from now you'll be advising the big club of this killer prospect in a small town in Texas named Timmy Tuttle. Yeah, this kid, he's a lefty right. Yeah, he's a lefty, he's. I mean he's. He's a nine-year-old. He's got some heat Now. You know he's first year of minors.
Speaker 3:You remember how it goes nine and ten, they play minors, nine and ten-year-olds uh-huh yeah so he's the youngest, you know, uh, in the league right now, but he's already got a pipe he's probably one of the bigger kids, right he is a very, very big kid uh-huh um, and you know great skills, you know ball handling skills, hits the ball really hard.
Speaker 3:And you know, I'm kind of reliving my youth right now because you know I had them this past weekend, dallas and Timmy and I took him out every day and him and I did drills and we're working on some stuff base running and you know, working on, you know just play and catch ball handling. I was getting them some harder type things to handle, so I'm loving it and, yeah, the kid has got to go. I was asking well, you know, this time throw hard, give me a little heat. And I was like, ooh, that Mitt Pop at nine years old. Wow, he's got the mitt pop already. Does he play first base, uh for his team? First base, uh is his his natural position now as a nine-year-old, the young, the young one on the rung. You know he may play a little left field, you know, but I I think that they would probably uh uh, be best off putting him at first base. It's where he belongs.
Speaker 2:Well, I think right now, at that age, you put somebody at first base who you know can catch the ball. I mean that's big, and then I'm sure he's got your speed.
Speaker 3:He's not quite as quick as Jonas and me and Dallas Wow, we're the ones with the speed. He's built more like Audrey, okay, where it's just the walking muscles. Audrey and Timmy are walking muscles. I mean just big kids. Now, audrey had quick twitch speed, obviously, if you were going to play libero Division. I.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:If you're going to play defensive Division I, so she had some quick twitch, but no, kev, his MO is going to be that first baseman's last pitcher that hits the ball a mile and a half.
Speaker 2:Awesome Okay.
Speaker 3:And if he has to turn on the Jets he'll turn on the Jets, but I think he would much rather have the majestic pose rounding of the base after taking that yard. Yeah, I think that's what you're going to see out of him and he's all in. I mean, he just loves baseball Perfect, he just loves it, you know. So I know his mom's happy. His mom has always been into one of the sons being, you know, big time into baseball, and I think she got her kid finally.
Speaker 2:Good, good, yeah, much safer than football.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, dallas actually got injured, had some problems with his retina. No, what happened? Yeah, he was walking around, he had blurred vision, he was telling us about it, but he didn't tell us everything that was going on with it. But, yeah, some offensive lineman got their mitt inside the mask or something like that and scratched around and his mom learned about that, uh, and, you know, took him to the doctor and everything like that. And there's a risk for blindness if there's an issue again.
Speaker 3:So oh, wow yeah, so that, combined with, she took the boys to the uh miami dolphins, texans game, where you know that wide receiver was laid out on the field with the face mask being pulled. I don't know if you remember that game about a month and a half ago.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:And that was enough for her.
Speaker 2:Dow's not playing football anymore.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure that he's going to be able to. I think it's quote unquote his choice. But you know how it is, it's not.
Speaker 2:Strongly influenced by mom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, as you all know that are listening right now, erica very strong-willed and rarely does not get her way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Erica's on-air partner Riggs commented on my Instagram. He said you could be the next bob euchre, to which I replied what dad?
Speaker 3:oh, that's funny, just a bit outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah wait wait, wait. So you're doing the radio broadcast, not pa announcing no, I'm doing pa announcing, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of people are under the misconception that I'm doing play by play. I'm not. I'm not. I'm the PA announcer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean, that to me is the best gig.
Speaker 2:Of course it is.
Speaker 3:That's the most fun. I mean, whatever PA announcing I did like, particularly for volleyball for George Ranch High School, I mean that was a blast. You set the tone. Set the tone, baby. Yeah, you set the tone for the game. Everything comes through me.
Speaker 1:I mean we don't have a batter taking the plate unless I introduce him.
Speaker 2:I wonder, with the new pitch clock, if the PA announcer has ever been caused for a bulk or an infraction.
Speaker 3:You just never know, I might be the first. Yeah, you might have to test that out, gav. Hey, did you know this? I mean, I found something out last week that I just I didn't. I probably should have looked head right now. In regards to your theory about the NFL Kev, there's actually official paperwork now where the NFL identifies itself as quote unquote sports entertainment and not a sports league. The reason being is they cannot be held liable if there's any quote-unquote fixing of games going on, whether it's under their purview or not under their purviews. So now, if a group of sports bettors wanted to get in and hit them with a class action lawsuit saying OK, you know, I had, I had the Texans and they had, you know, you know, plus the points and everything like that, I won that game. But you know it looks fixed because of these calls, you cannot sue the NFL because they don't claim to be a quote unquote quote your sports league anymore.
Speaker 2:There's sports entertainment, and what else do we know that sports entertainment? Wwe.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Isn't that great, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2:It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3:And that's, and that's something that just happened in recent years, when they became, you know, partners with the sports betting industry. Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:And they want you to believe that it's all pure. It can't be. It can't be. There's too much money riding on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, isn't that crazy. I had no idea that happened again. It's from a reliable source. I can't remember exactly what I was watching. No, wikipedia is bullshit. Propaganda. Wikipedia, god, it's so funny, as we all know, because I've added to it before. You know that Wikipedia is bullshit because I'm officially a contributor, kevin, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah I just thought that was funny. I was like, okay, now it all just makes sense. Are you interested in the super bowl? You do, you care about it?
Speaker 3:um, just I, just for the, the pageantry, just for the tradition, um, but not as much I mean I, you, you know, I just hate what they did to get the Chiefs there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I just hate it and I don't know what the script says. Maybe they give Philly a win here. I don't know how it's been written. Do you know anything about the script for Sunday Kev.
Speaker 2:No, but I mean, if you've gone to this length to make bad calls against the opponents of the Chiefs, it's in an effort to get the three-peat. Why would you deny a team the three-peat?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, Exactly, exactly. And I've already read that the Chiefs are in talks with Pat Riley on how much money they will owe him to claim the three-peat. You know he coined that with the Miami Heat Pat Riley. So anybody that uses three-peat in an official context will owe him money.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's so funny. Yeah, yeah, that's so funny, kev, you know. And another thing about real quick is um, I am actually a little bit sad. I, I don't like the dallas cowboys, I really don't never have, uh, but the the official end of the 50-year era of being america's team, I mean with the brian schottenheimer, and now you got diehard fans giving away or burning jerseys and crap like that. I mean there was a time and you can admit this too I mean there was a time where every football player wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I remember it. We grew up with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and every coach would have just given their firstborn son to be a Dallas Cowboy coach, right, yes, and now you don't, because nobody in that organization or in that family has the balls to tell Jerry, hey, the emperor is naked man. This is fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's the problem.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'm not sure, when he dies, if that's going to get any better.
Speaker 2:No, they sealed their fate when they signed Dak Prescott to a record-setting contract. No, no, no.
Speaker 3:He can't win the big one. And now, because of that contract, he can't get any supporting weapons either. That's exactly right. He can't even get an offensive line to protect himself, so again, he'll be running for his life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he'll be injured.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he'll be injured again and he doesn't give a fuck because he's going to get his 55 mil.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:No matter what. You know speaking of Rig Kev and you know Dallas sports. Look what happened in the NBA with that trade.
Speaker 2:Luka Doncic for Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3:Are they? Is the NBA so into the LAakers making sure that they are competitive, because they are at their worst ratings, worst attendance, worst revenue in history? They got to prop up the Lakers and they got to give LeBron a run going out that they would allow a very questionable you know, midnight trade like that. You know what I'm saying very questionable.
Speaker 2:You know midnight trade like that. You know what I'm saying? Well, what I've read, according to NBA insiders, is that the Lakers are getting the worst of the deal. I mean, I don't know how you can say that with the MVP going to them, but that Davis, anthony Davis, is actually the better prize in this, and the reason that the Mavericks got rid of Luka Doncic is because he could not keep his weight in check. They have a clause in his contract that says he can weigh no more than 245 pounds, and he came in at 268 for a game, and so they faked a wrist injury for 14 days, put him on the 14 day injured list to get his weight down, and he wouldn't do it.
Speaker 3:Wow. Okay, all right yeah, and I know you know something that in watching him play over the years is he does not play any defense none whatsoever and anthony davis is one of the best defenders in the nba yeah, yeah, and that's why the mavericks wanted to go out and get him.
Speaker 2:They think they're just a defender away from being able to win it all.
Speaker 3:We shall see they better go at least two rungs into the playoff here. Otherwise bye-bye to that GM man.
Speaker 2:Cuban's not owner anymore. He's a very, very small minority owner. They sold that to the Adelson family that owns a lot of the casinos in Vegas.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they got that house money to play with I, uh, yeah, so that that'll be interesting to watch, for sure, cav. Um, I wanted I. We've talked about this um over the years and I'm so happy to report to you, kevin, that I finally did it. I finally asked the question that, you know, many people have been asking all their lives. I saw a dude do the cat calling to a lady. You know, hey, baby, hey, baby, you know the whistle, yeah, the whistle. And the hey baby, you know the whistle, yeah the whistle, hey, baby, you know that kind of thing. And I went over to him and I asked him why. I mean, as we all know, we never understand what Kat calls endgame is. She's clearly always out of his league and it's cringy as fuck and women hate that shit, right, yeah, has it ever worked? No, well, he tells me otherwise.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Because I asked him. I said, dude, I got to know, man. I mean because I look at that stuff and I've wanted to know since I was a little kid, you know, watching construction workers working on a house down the street, whistling at girls walking to Atwater Beach on Lake Michigan. If that you know why you guys do that. And he says he does it because it worked once.
Speaker 3:Once Okay, yeah In 1999, he was telling me she just got out of a long abusive-type relationship. Okay, and there was homeboy right there with the whistle and the cat call. Right place, right time and it worked, Wow. So I got to give him credit. I mean, the dude is one for a quarter of a century and he's still sticking with his system, Cam.
Speaker 2:You go with what you know, Timmy.
Speaker 3:You know I mean I guess that's what they say, you know, in terms of you know sales and everything like that. All you need is that one close. You know, if 99 people say no, I don't need your product, that's okay, I'm just one closer to the winner that's right there it is and he keeps going and going and going god bless him god bless, that. Is that crazy, or what he just keeps at it.
Speaker 2:Hey, why not? Why not?
Speaker 3:he doesn't choose to do anything else. He's this is my shtick and this is how I'm gonna do it, you know, and I, and I asked him, I, I, I asked him I was talking to him, kevin like well, do you do just do any like regular pickup lines, you know, see a girl at a grocery store or whatever he goes, yeah, after I whistle at him, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha, it's always the icebreaker and and kev he is, that he is a dude, probably about mid-40s, okay, and I and I, just I I had to go from there and, knowing that that's his only opener that he has, uh, you know what kind of relationship, uh career he had, and everything like that and he said, oh no, I no, I don't do relationships man oh yeah, okay
Speaker 3:I don't do and man oh, okay, I don't. And I'm like well, hold on a second, you don't do relationships, so that 1999, one that worked, that didn't turn out to be any kind of long-term type thing, how I mean? So basically you haven't been with anybody in 25 years, right?
Speaker 2:And he's like oh no, no, no.
Speaker 3:I pay for escorts. Oh Jesus, I was like, oh my God, and I'm just looking at him because he's, he's a funny guy, he's quick, yeah, you know he's clean, he's not a bad looking dude. And I'm just like why don't you just, you know, try to strike up a normal, regular conversation?
Speaker 2:with them. Yeah, change with the times. Give yourself a chance.
Speaker 3:And he said well, that worked for my daddy and his daddy before him. Wow, that's how they did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, got to keep that tradition going, I guess.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's how he did it. You know, unfortunately for him, his father and his grandfather, they did the cat call and you know that's back in the day where you know that would turn out to be a long-term relationship.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah. Women want a little bit more sophistication now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they want to be wooed a little bit, so that's his thing. He's doing his thing, kev. I'll give him credit for it.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know what Good for him? That means more opportunity for you, Timmy.
Speaker 3:I don't need any my cup runneth over Kev. Oh, good for you, bud, I'm I'm doing fine, I'm doing, uh, I'm doing okay, as as uh, as dallas, uh, uh, told me this weekend, um, when he, uh, you know, you know, caught wind of, uh, you know, dad's extracurriculars, uh, damn, dad, you're living the dream man. Yeah, I said yep, yeah, I said you know, I after, after it's, I mean, I did, I don't buy, I don't have to buy them meals, dinners or anything like that uh-huh yeah, we just have a very, um, very fun arrangement, and that's how it should be.
Speaker 3:That's how I wish I would have discovered that many, many years ago. And then, of course. Then he said well, then we wouldn't be here. I'm like well, I know, I don't have any regrets.
Speaker 2:Yes, of course.
Speaker 3:I don't have any regrets. I'm just saying if I were have just had that mind frame going in, there wouldn't have been any of the pain, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, have you guys, just don't have the piece of paper.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Don't need a piece of that. That's basically what I'm trying to uh to to to come up with. That's right. Yeah, that's my thing. Okay, I am currently off of social media and off the grid and I don't watch any of the mainstream news propaganda. I rarely know what's going on, so Kev always keeps me in the loop to make sure I'm not a complete idiot about current events. What are the things that have happened to the world over the past week that I may need or may want to know?
Speaker 2:Well, there's two things that I think most everybody knows. I'm not going to start with that. I'm going to start with get your affairs in order. You have until December 22nd 2032 to get your affairs in order. There is a one in 83 chance that we get struck. The planet Earth gets struck by a 200 foot wide asteroid. They say it's the highest probability in recent memory, and a 200 foot wide asteroid slamming into any part of Earth would wipe out a city the size of New York. When is thiscember 22nd 2032?
Speaker 3:wow, yep okay, all right. Well, fortunately, um you know, bruce willis is still with us. We'll have to replace michael clark duncan.
Speaker 2:Uh but we might have to replace bruce by then yeah, I think, ben.
Speaker 3:Well, I think you got to get up there now and get that thing going.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean Elon Musk. He's already been asked to go rescue the people from the space station. I guess Isn't that a thing, kev? And you know, might as well put this on Elon's to-do list too. Hey man, you got to take care of that asteroid too. We'll do something, work out some kind of deal in regards to your income taxes or something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's going to take that Tesla floating around in space, going to Mars Exactly. Run that thing right into that rock. Yeah but that's a real story.
Speaker 3:Okay, so is that an extinction event?
Speaker 2:No, it's not an extinction event. They're just saying that it could. It could wipe out a city the size of New York City, because it would be an 800 square mile divot.
Speaker 3:Well, why don't we just do that? Then Just let them have New York City, right? Yeah, I mean, we got Trump in office right now. Can't we just cut a deal?
Speaker 2:Now that's what I wanted to ask you about, because you're a very smart economist what is the end game with these tariffs?
Speaker 3:Oh Kev. First off, we've been getting screwed over left and right in terms of we aid everybody else, but they fuck us over in terms of trade in every way possible.
Speaker 3:They hate everybody else, but they fuck us over in terms of trade in every way possible. Okay, Due to our corrupt politicians being paid off or hating America so much. They want to see us crumble. They want to see us brought to our knees. So endgame on tariff is to lighten the load on income taxes, if not completely eliminating income taxes and just having fair trade with our trading partners as the revenue we give every other country considerations that nobody gives us.
Speaker 2:So then and I'm going to admit your brother Todd into the conversation right now he's there with us, Colonel.
Speaker 4:Hey, what's going on, Kevin?
Speaker 2:Hang on one second. Tim's giving us a breakdown on the end game of the tariffs that Trump is imposing. But I have a question. Okay, so you're saying, Tim, that NAFTA was really not a free trade agreement. We were bearing the load for all of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's how it's always been. The thing that Trump is doing differently is he's actually making sure that we have an even playing field with all the other countries we do business with.
Speaker 2:We never have had that OK but you said he wants to even the playing field and it's going to help us with income taxes. Is it really going to help if we're paying 50 bucks for maple syrup?
Speaker 3:It's not going to be that way. That's the fear stuff. Ok, and you know what? If it ends up being that way, then you know, hoboken, new Jersey, makes a pretty good fucking maple syrup to stop eating pancakes. Yeah, mrs Butterworth's is made in los angeles, california journal.
Speaker 2:How are you buddy?
Speaker 4:great, I'm great guys, good to see you great how you doing tom I'm great tim okay, um cav, I gotta tell you this.
Speaker 3:Last week, you know, we heard about the uh blackhawk helicopter, uh crash and my phone blows up. Why does my phone blow up? Because my brother, todd, is known through. You know my family and friends, as you know, the Blackhawk helicopter guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, I almost texted you, for the same reason you did text me, you did, I did, didn't I?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you were one of the texters and, todd, you know I'm sorry about that because you will always be the Blackhawk helicopter expert and anytime they make the headlines you will have to answer some questions for family friends. And since you've been at least a peripheral character on our morning show for 26 years, the audience wants to hear it too. What the heck went down? What do you know about this? It seems really, really weird what. What happened last week?
Speaker 4:yeah, so, yeah, no problem. Um, so, and I appreciate that, being the blackhawk expert, because you know when people want to talk about shitty podcasts, they always contact me and you know the reason why. So so so I get it, I understand. Um, yeah, that was, that was a extremely tragic um event there with, uh, the blackhawk and the you know the crj american airlines uh colliding there over the Potomac.
Speaker 4:Like anything, though a lot of people are throwing out what they think it is, you know, and it's tough not to try to guess, but that's what the NTSB is for. You know, they don't want to guess, they want to go with facts and they're very good at what they do. You know, they're world-class. I was fortunate enough to take several courses with the NTSB and the FAA when I became an aircraft accident investigator for the Army. So they, you know they don't even when the press is pushing them and wanting any kind of tidbits that they can get, they're not going to do that because you don't want to guess out of respect for everybody, and then to make get. They're not going to do that because you don't want to guess out of respect for everybody, and then to make sure that it's not going to create additional safety problems because of people either reacting or overreacting. They're going to play it right, and it may take up to a year to figure this stuff out.
Speaker 4:I will tell you, though you know I've flown that corridor, that low level corridor, before in Washington DC, because it's a very common one for helicopters, especially military helicopters, and that's very when you're at that altitude and you're trying to find a plane, and all of that the city lights that's extremely difficult. You may never see that really bright landing light, like everybody keeps saying. How could they miss it? How could they miss it? Plus, their relative motion was very near zero.
Speaker 2:What does that mean Todd? What's relative motion?
Speaker 4:So you know, when you're merging on a highway and you don't see that actual car, that's right in your blind spot because you've matched speeds with them. And then at the last second you look over and you actually see them. But our brains cue off of relative motion. So if that car that you're merging with is slightly different speed, your brain is going to pick that up in your peripheral vision. And so when there's very little relative motion, matching speeds or converging like they were doing, you may not have seen them at all. Or until the last second, when it was too late. And we don't know that yet, right? Um, you know so and we don't know that yet. Right, we haven't heard the cockpit voice recorders and whether any of the crews actually saw anything. You know? And the unfortunate thing with the Blackhawk, they only had one crew chief on board, which is extremely common flight, especially for a training flight, where you know, if they had another crew chief on the left-hand side, that crew chief may have been able to spot the converging aircraft.
Speaker 2:Would they have spotted it in time?
Speaker 4:though Don't know. Again, that's speculation. And then you wouldn't know until the cockpit voice recorder comes out right. But because the crew chief's in the back of a Blackhawk, they sit behind each pilot but they're facing outboard, so they've got a big window in front of them and they're facing outwards, so they've got 180-degree field of view that they're supposed to be clearing the aircraft for the pilots, so without having the one on the same side as the accident occurred, on the left side of the aircraft that extra set of eyes wasn't there. And by all accounts, people guessing on the altitude and everything else again, until we see, and the NTSBs confirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt, that once they link everything up and say the Blackhawk's at this altitude, and then this RJ was at this altitude, and here's where they converged at this exact altitude.
Speaker 2:What's the max altitude a Blackhawk can fly? You mean on that route?
Speaker 4:On any route. Well, that route is. It's 200 feet AGL above ground level. The Blackhawk service ceiling is 18,000 feet. Oh wow, you get that high? Yeah, but that's pretty rare. Conditions would have to be perfect and you'd have to be so light to be able to get up to 18,000 feet. Usually it's 12,000 to 14,000, because you have to have, there's no oxygen. It's not a pressurized aircraft, so you would have to have supplemental oxygen. Uh, when you, when you're going over the mountains, like in afghanistan and stuff, we had to have supplemental oxygen, uh, to fly at those altitudes, which you don't do unless you absolutely have to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, hey, todd, when you have explain something to me with the black box data recorder, um, that survives just about every uh plane crash, as we all know? Um, why isn't the entire aircraft made of whatever material that black or that black box is made of, and we would never have any crashes?
Speaker 4:yeah, well, it's just like uh, you know a lot of crashes, there are many survivable pieces. It's just like a lot of crashes, there are many survivable pieces. It's just how the impact happened and where those are located and secured. They typically do, but they are very robust, but it's very expensive and very heavy. So if you made the entire thing out of that, it may not fly anyway.
Speaker 3:Your plane ticket to Orlando would cost you $148,000.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean there's a reason why we're flying in aluminum cans. I mean, that's basically what they are. It's sheet metal, just like an aluminum can. So it's because of the weight to thrust ratio, and as much as you'd want to make it durable like that, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2:Hey, how many hours of flight time have you had in a Blackhawk?
Speaker 4:A Blackhawk. I've had about 3,000. Jeez.
Speaker 2:So see, this is our expert right here, guys.
Speaker 4:There's guys who have 10,000 hours in a Blackhawk, your most senior aviators, your guys who have done nothing their entire careers but just fly. They've got 5,000 to 10,000 hours.
Speaker 2:What does it take as a pilot? What does it take to fly that? Constant motion of all four extremities.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, it's quite the balancing act, because I was fortunate enough to fly airplanes before I went into Army's flight school and an airplane inherently wants to fly I mean most airframes. If you let go, it'll correct itself, it'll want to fly straight and level. But a helicopter is always trying to kill you and it's a concert of moving both feet and both hands at the same time on four different controls. Just to, what we joke about is beating the air into submission, jeez. So that's why I loved once I did helicopters. I didn't want to go back to airplanes because it's helicopters are so challenging and I absolutely loved it, and especially just being at treetop level, going 150 miles an hour with night vision, goggles on is is pretty incredible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, these Blackhawk pilots. They are the kids growing up that could rub the belly and tap the head at the same time.
Speaker 2:You'd probably be a hell of a drummer.
Speaker 3:Tim, the hard part is rubbing your head while tapping your belly and that's nobody can do that and that's all todd had to do. You know, when he was, when he was 17 years old, he went to the army recruiter and said look what I can do.
Speaker 4:And they said blackhawk helicopter, yeah if only the, if only the selection was based on that.
Speaker 3:Hey, kev, you're right, he would be a great drummer, because that's what drummers do. Yeah, he would be phenomenal. All right, maybe that's what I'll start doing in my retirement driving Jenny nuts with drums in the basement, I'll sell you Jonas's set.
Speaker 2:Okay, hey, we haven't spoken to you since you got off the Appalachian Trail. How are you doing?
Speaker 4:I'm good. As you guys know, I ripped up my shoulder pretty good on that last day trying to summit Mount Katahdin when I dislocated the shoulder, and then 22 attempts to reset the shoulder after I dislocated it the second time coming down, I tore it up really, really bad and had to have surgery, and that didn't take place until two months after I got off the trail. So I'm still recovering. You know I got about 110 degrees of this way and I got next to nothing this way yet.
Speaker 2:But we call that the elon musk wave.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, everybody in history has done that, that way, I don't.
Speaker 4:I don't think I could get that high though, uh. But yeah, uh, you know, still doing physical therapy. It's going to be a long road and, uh, they're not really confident. I'll get full range of motion back, but that's OK, it was still worth it there you go If you're not familiar with what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:With Todd, todd went on a full hike of the Appalachian Trail, which is over 2000 miles long, and he did it for a warrior expedition. Mentally, how are you?
Speaker 4:Great. I mean that that that was a chance of a lifetime. It was just perfect for mental health, emotional health and obviously, physical health. All my blood work when I was done with the trail was spot on perfect. I hadn't seen that in never. So it did the body good and it really puts things into perspective.
Speaker 4:It's kind of like when I came back from deployments and you don't take you know the small things for granted anymore, like like a hot shower, hot food, you know a nice, warm, cozy bed. You know the little things that we, that we tend to take for granted on a daily basis. It resets you, gets your mind thinking right and you're not sweating the small stuff anymore. And so far so good. I haven't backslid or anything like that. So it's been wonderful. And then Warrior Expeditions invited me to lead the next group in March on the first 40 miles from Georgia to Blairsville and then, like we had, we had two of the previous alumni who shadowed us and made sure everything was good, showing us how to do things and what have you, and pacing them and everything. So I'm really excited about that at the end of March to get back out there with them.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, 40 miles too, that's a cakewalk. I mean, obviously you're not going to do 2,500 or whatever you did, but 40, that's easy. Yeah, yeah, that'll be fun.
Speaker 4:It's not like when I started out last year where I was like, oh my God, 40 miles in 40 days. But it'll be much easier this time, for sure. Muscle memory.
Speaker 3:Because of that long distance trip. I mean, does that change things in terms of your day to day? Now, where it's like you know, jenny will be like, hey, we need some milk and eggs. And you're like, well, I'm not even going to walk to the grocery, I'm not going to drive, I'm going to walk to the grocery store, I don't care if it's 12 miles, no, it doesn't get like that, unfortunately, where we live.
Speaker 4:I would love it for to be like that. I would absolutely do that, but where we live it's not really pedestrian type of roads, so it'd be extremely dangerous for me to do something like oh yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3:I remember going out of your neighborhood to blind spots. You'd be dead within 15 times of trying it.
Speaker 4:Yeah correct, it's not uh, it's not conducive for for uh walking around here but, you know, still having the uh Appalachian mountains right in the backyard and the Appalachian trails 10 minutes from my house, you know, haven't really gotten back on it yet because of my shoulder, but I'm getting ready to to to hit the trail again. So it's so close, I'm looking forward to it. And even my doctor said after this the last labs he was like, yeah, you need to get back to hiking and my blood results aren't as good as they were in October after I got off the trail.
Speaker 3:Hey Todd. There's another thing Kevin and I are very curious about and we're so glad we have a chance to maybe get your perspective on this. For those unaware, my brother was in the military for 30 years. I mean, I think you started the back end of Reagan and were there for Bush one and Clinton and Bush two, obama and Trump one and you know even a little piece of Biden, I think.
Speaker 4:No, I was out before Biden. I was right at the tail end of Trump. So yeah, I've had a few presidents as my commander in chief. What?
Speaker 3:what? What happens within the military as we change commander in chief? I mean, is it something you know that that is dramatic, or it's just? Hey, man, we're just doing our thing.
Speaker 4:Sometimes it's dramatic. Usually it was all about money, right. So you'd have one administration throwing a ton of money at defense. Um, you know, which is one of the primary things in the constitution is is to provide it for the national defense and other administrations who cut way back on budget, and it usually becomes like a money fight. Then you know and as I moved up in ranks as an officer, unfortunately I got caught in a lot of that melee when you're scrounging for budget crumbs. But then you know other administrations, like Bush II it was kind of an open checkbook during that time and then the term became budget dust. So it was budget crumbs to budget dust. So that's usually the biggest thing.
Speaker 4:You see, there's obviously policies that come out with each administration, political or otherwise, that the DOD has to pick up and take on, or a new Congress. You know whoever's got the majority. You know Congress requires all these new things for the military. Those are kind of a pain in the butt to go through because you're kind of dropping everything that you do to go through all these classes and training or what have you. But apparently I missed the worst of it with the Biden administration with all that stuff that came out, I was sad to see that warrior skills was way down on the defense strategy with all these other programs, some of them social, some of them otherwise.
Speaker 4:But when you don't put warrior skills and national defenses your two top priorities in the strategy, or at least in the top three, that caused a lot of problems. A lot of my friends who were still in you know it was a huge burden for them to take on. And then the whole pandemic stuff with the COVID shots that just launched a ripple effect through. So in general, not that big of an impact, with each administration or Congress that holds the majority comes through Minor hiccups to some bumps in the road. But you know, towards the end it really started getting a little weird. Of all the requirements that came out and unfortunately recruiting in the military started just falling off big time and we weren't making numbers the last four years for for recruiting.
Speaker 2:You know, Tim, I always thought that you were the most well-spoken and most politically ambitious person in the Tuttle clan. I would vote for Todd.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because he's like normal, like down the middle. I'm quote, unquote a crazy lunatic constitutionalist.
Speaker 4:No, that's not quote unquote, that's a fact.
Speaker 3:Kevin, you can verify this. Todd, there were so many times where you know found out oh okay, todd's gonna, you know he's got to get uh security clearance for this and that that you didn't have your security clearance ruined because of your brother. I'm just.
Speaker 4:I was so relieved, well, I had to go through some extra levels of approval process, just being your brother. But uh, I I made it through, thanks to balancing out with my other friends and family.
Speaker 2:Tina leveled that playing field. Yeah, there's a sliding curve, thankfully.
Speaker 3:Todd, did you ever? And if you can't comment on this, I understand, but in 30 years in the military and obviously you being who you are I mean you're Captain America You'll take care of business that needs to be taken care of. Were you ever given an order where it's just like I don't like this shit, man, this is not cool. We shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 4:I was fortunate enough never to be put in that position because, I mean, there were some things that I questioned and and thankfully I had decent enough superiors to listen and you know, take information and opinions or you know what I thought should or should not be done. I didn't have to go to that point where I was like I'm intentionally not going to follow this order. I did not have to do that. But I know that. You know that's obviously happened over the history of our military.
Speaker 3:Todd, you know, before we let you go, there's a couple of things we want to do. First off if you don't mind, kev, this is going to be some brother on brother thing here. I've gotten older and just like, like I've, I've actually like, thought of things in life and had memories that I hadn't thought of in decades, and I just want to make sure that and verify that they happened, and since you were there with me, you can tell me whether they happened or not. Do you remember, terry, at fall Creek apartments, uh, putting a stick under the frozen creek or lake that we were on and it did not come back up because we were throwing our sticks in this hole in the ice and it would pop back up. Hers didn't, so she went down under the ice to get it and we had to save her.
Speaker 4:So I remember it, that yeah, we were doing that stick thing but I think she slipped and, looking for it, like leaning over to look for it, slipped and went into the water. Yeah and yeah, and we had to pull her out and get her inside of a building and try to dry her clothes in the apartment laundromat so mom wouldn't find out so mom wouldn't find out.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that that did happen. Okay, now you may you, you may be a little young for this one Cause this is like one of my very first memories, okay, when we lived on the house on 56th street, the white house, uh, in Indianapolis, um, I was maybe four years old, you were made, you were three or something like that. Uh, mom and dad would leave to go out to a restaurant or go out, you know, do whatever they did, and after they left, at night, all of the lights in the house would go out. I think Freddie and Tina would actually hit the switch, the circuit breaker. So when we tried to turn the lights back on, it wouldn't and they would just wait for like 10, 15 minutes while you and I are walking through the hallways going, freddie, tina, and they would dive out at us and scare the shit out of us. Did that happen? Do you remember that?
Speaker 4:Yes, I do remember them always trying to scare us, but what really scared me the most was how you screamed like a girl. So much about it, terrified.
Speaker 3:I didn't, I didn't like that. I, I did not like that. Uh, that jump scare back then.
Speaker 4:It was hard to look up to my older brother.
Speaker 3:You were like this is my role model.
Speaker 4:This is the guy he's running and screaming, jump behind, jumping behind couches.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, that was freaky dude. I don't understand why you were so calm and cool about it, Like Todd was going to get into a martial arts position and fight what was ever coming, and he's like three years old and shit.
Speaker 4:No, it was more like I knew who it was.
Speaker 3:Okay, and finally, todd todd, we were both altar boys, um, and no priest ever hit on us. What was wrong with us?
Speaker 4:I've often asked myself that, um, wow, that's a funny question um I don't know, we just didn't have the look was our, was our bowl haircut getting in the way. Probably in those giant white collars and bright red and blue shirts with those white collars and cuffs. That had to have been it. White pants, big white belt. I'd say that was unattractive, yeah.
Speaker 3:And Kev I don't know if you knew this or not I'm going to give you this picture right here to post. Last Halloween, I asked Timmy what do you want to go? As for Halloween Him being obsessed with airplanes and helicopters and things that fly and wanting to be a pilot and all that stuff he went as my brother Todd for Halloween.
Speaker 4:He had the pickle suit on and everything that was cool, that was an honor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'm just like what do I have to do here? You know what do I got to do here? Do?
Speaker 4:anything cool Tim.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just do something cool, You'll get there.
Speaker 4:They clearly don't think talking into a microphone's cool man. Yeah, exactly man. Ooh, look at you.
Speaker 3:they clearly don't think talking into a microphone's cool man. Yeah, exactly man. Look at you, or at least put a uniform on or something. You with your words, into a microphone I want that hero okay, all right, I get it. Um, hey, kev, let let's have Todd participate in this week's top three.
Speaker 1:Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Klein's top three.
Speaker 3:Top three foods and beverages you don't consume regularly, but if it's put in front of you you absolutely cannot resist it. Kevin Klein, why don't you start us off food and beverage? Let's do one at a time.
Speaker 2:Let's do round table one at a time and go around that uh, checks mix good one, yeah, the savory one, you know the kind of spicy one? Yeah, man, I I would never get it on my own at the, at the grocery store, but if you put a bowl in front of me at like a party or something, dude, I'm going to waste that whole thing.
Speaker 3:I like it Todd Tuttle.
Speaker 4:I'm going to have to say it's very broad and it's anything sweet. I got a really bad sweet tooth. So, like like Kevin said, if I'm at a party and there's a whole bunch of sweets lying around, I'm tagging every single one of them oh, I'm the same way. I'll even fill my pockets, you know, when nobody's looking and I try so hard to stay away from that stuff. But if somebody's throwing in front of me oof that that that's our genetic can't defend that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's um, I I don't. I don't like carbonated beverages, I don't drink them. But I got to admit, if I see, like at a, at a fountain, you know, you know, when you go to a restaurant or something, if I see cherry Coke, I got to get a half cup of it. Yeah, I got I. I, I have a weakness for cherry Coke. That's a good one too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kev what about you, uh like, whenever I go to like panera bread or a coffee shop and they have an almond croissant. Sucker for an almond croissant those are good too.
Speaker 3:oh yeah, buddy, do you heat it up? No, I don't. No, wow, okay, he's old school, he's he's caveman I like it. Uh, Todd Tuttle, what do you got buddy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that damn, uh damn, cheeseburger man. Um, you know, again, you get older, those are, those are tough to manage and, uh, you know. So if it's being served or it's, you know, you go to a cookout or whatever. I'm having a few of those and, unfortunately, being on the trail, I ate, you know, double bacon cheeseburgers the entire time, because I was, you know, busting through five to eight thousand calories a day. So it wasn't that big of a deal, but that's a tough one to resist. If I'm at a barbecue or something or whatever somebody offering that, I'm going to have a couple.
Speaker 3:Who makes the best? Uh, I guess national chain. Uh, is it five guys? Is it in and out? Here in Texas we have Whataburger. What's your choice?
Speaker 4:I was just going to say Whataburger because, uh, you know, traveling around the country all the time, I was able to hit a lot of them and I really liked water burgers.
Speaker 3:Which one? The jalapeno. Do you have a specific one you liked?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:Okay, just any one.
Speaker 4:Okay, I like it, yeah, I usually try to change up all the time If they offer different things at whichever place that I'm at. I'll shake it up a bit.
Speaker 3:Okay, I have a problem with fudge. I don't know what it is. I'm sorry, I don't know what it is. They're just a peanut butter fudge, chocolate fudge, fudge with nuts in it. I don't give a shit Any kind of fudge we grew up on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that little tin is going home with me. If I see it like laid out on a table at a party or something, that whole tin is going home with me. Yeah, mom made that all the time. That's why, yeah, do you remember mom's mint chocolate chip ice cream pie? I do.
Speaker 4:fantastic, was that good she did a good job fattening us up, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, and setting us on the road to a poor diet, because, if you remember, that's gonna be my one, so I'll just jump in there. Gravy, oh yeah, I never get gravy, but you know, if it's, if it's being offered or whatever, I'm taking it because we grew up on gravy, on everything.
Speaker 3:I know, and and, and not only that, some of the specialty gravy too, to to me I, my mouth still waters this, and it's been years since I've had Bob Evans biscuits and gravy. Holy shit, man yeah.
Speaker 2:You can go get that at Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 3:It's not the same as Bob Evans. Okay, bob Evans is the only person, again the only person, just like she did with the chocolate mint chip ice cream pie. The only person that's come close to duplicating the Bob Evans was Erica. She got close, so dang it it.
Speaker 4:I miss her. See. See, kevin, what my mom did to our diet. We made stupid decisions based off of gravy I, I, I.
Speaker 3:I would actually go back to someone who I don't think really even likes me too much anymore, just to get her food back. Thanks, mom.
Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:All right, kev. What do you got to finish it with?
Speaker 2:You know it's a weird one, but hot dogs I just think about. You know, whenever I go to a game a baseball game or something I'll get a hot dog.
Speaker 3:I love hot dogs yeah.
Speaker 2:Did you know that there was a scientific study that for every hot dog you eat, you're taking minutes off your life Are?
Speaker 4:you serious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dead serious. It was a medical study that came out. If you eat a hot dog, you're taking minutes off your eventual life. So the more hot dogs you eat, the shorter your life is going to be.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and that explains why men eat a lot of hot dogs when they're with their significant others. Exactly, give me the ballpark, frank.
Speaker 3:The whole package. The big scientific question at this point is is what takes more years off your life? Hot dogs are doing this podcast because we don't. We want Todd to have a long life. We're gonna let him go now. Todd, has been awesome to have you on.
Speaker 4:Thank you so much, man. Yeah, it's so great to see you guys again.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of fun. Buddy, yeah, same here. All right, I love it.
Speaker 4:You guys take care. It's great seeing you love you guys love you too.
Speaker 3:Bye, take care of you todd, see you, man, take care, that guy's the best. He's the best man.
Speaker 2:I love todd um kevin klein yes, sir he's, he's, he's hilarious man oh my god, he's absolutely hilarious. I could listen to him all day. Rip on you the thing that bothered me most was the scream, and I'm like this is my older brother he's the only one that can get away with that kind of stuff, though, you know, because he knows it and he's seen it and yeah, yeah, it's hard to defend man yeah, todd, had todd realized at the age of three that he was on his own, he would have, in all honesty, I probably helped him be a better man.
Speaker 3:You know, grow up quicker, up quicker and be more mature. You know he's like hey, man, somebody has got to be adult in this shit. Man, it's not going to be this guy. Yeah, sure, sure, he's bigger and you know he is not the big brother.
Speaker 2:No, but it's weird though, because now you like the jump scare, oh, I do now.
Speaker 3:I did not then, kev, I did I. Just I did not then, kev, I did not like to be scared. Yeah, no, I know, as a matter of fact, I was thinking that he was going to remember this and bring this up. But when I saw Friday the 13th, the final chapter, part four, when I was like 15 years old or whatever it was, I, at 15 years old, was so freaked out by that movie that I slept at the end of my mom and dad's bed for a couple of nights. At 15 years old.
Speaker 2:Sure Dottie appreciated that.
Speaker 3:No, no, she did. It was an opportunity for her to step on me.
Speaker 2:Kick you off the bed.
Speaker 3:No, I was, like you know, down on the floor oh.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 3:So she had to get up and go to the bathroom. It was a good. Oh, okay, so she had to get up and go to the bathroom. It was a good. Oh, Tim, I'm sorry. Oh Tim, sorry, I stepped on your head there.
Speaker 2:Mom, you drink a lot of water before bed. You seem to be getting up quite often, yeah.
Speaker 3:And mom, I didn't know. You, you know, walked with a. You grind your heel motion, that's a little strange that you grind your heel there, mom.
Speaker 3:All right, kev, we got to wrap this thing up. I've got to. Um, I got to get some money. I still have. I still have not made my profit for the week. Uh, fun episode, fine stuff yet again. Uh, tomorrow or uh, next week we'll talk about the super bowl and uh, everything that happened there. Um, but right now we want to ask that you please like, follow, download our episode. I know a lot of you still press play when you get on the platform. Do us a favor and download that thing. It really, really helps us out. Subscribe, tell your friends about us, give us a rating. We really want to pump those numbers up, if we can. Kevin Klein, timmy.
Speaker 3:T what do you got going on this week?
Speaker 2:This week a lot more projects rating. We really want to pump those numbers up, if we can. Kevin Klein, timmy T, what do you got going on this week? This week, a lot more projects, and I have started getting consistent with my running again. So yeah, man, life is good this week.
Speaker 3:All right, man, Get after it. Proud of you. Congratulations on your dream job again. I know that's going to be great. I cannot wait to uh, uh, you know. Make sure, Trish, um, uh, you know, run some video, uh, um, in the ballpark that night so we can hear some things.
Speaker 2:Well, dude, I'm only a nine hour drive away. We got plenty of room here at the end. Why don't you just come up for a weekend and see a game? I can get you free tickets.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's something wrong with the transmission. I don't know what's going on with this podcast. My sound is flashing, gotta go.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
