Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #45: Music Memories and Parenting in a New Light
Can parenting advice and rock legends coexist in a conversation? We think so! Join us as we navigate the joys and challenges of modern-day parenting and share amusing anecdotes that highlight the quirky personalities of our kids. Our reflections on family time during the holidays serve as a backdrop for discussing how times have changed from when kids could trust strangers to now needing to be on guard. We keep the vibe lighthearted, focusing on the importance of preparing children to stand up for themselves in sticky situations, while reminiscing about the good old days when classic rock reigned supreme.
Get ready for a hypothetical sports showdown as we debate which legendary pitcher—Randy Johnson, Walter Johnson, or Roger Clemens—would save Earth from baseball-loving aliens. It's a lively exchange that blends sports legends with out-of-this-world scenarios.
From assembling dream teams of athletes to deciding whether we'd rather shiver in the cold or bask in the heat, our chat is a rollercoaster of imaginative and thought-provoking discussions. We tackle everything from quirky movie script ideas to popular TV show reviews, and even jump into Titanic documentaries with fascinating scientific theories.
Our musings on religion and the golden rule cap off the episode, encouraging you to continue supporting our show through downloads and subscriptions. Join us for a romp through laughter, nostalgia, and spirited debates!
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline.
Speaker 3:Show. I bet you have. How are you man?
Speaker 2:Good buddy, it's been a while. It's been what? A couple weeks actually.
Speaker 3:Three weeks Three, is it three? I think it's three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it probably is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it could be. Wow, three weeks and uh Kev, uh. A lot has happened in that three weeks.
Speaker 2:I can only imagine.
Speaker 3:I don't even know where to start. Uh, the beginning once upon a time, the green bay packers beat the dallas cowboys in the ice ball. So fred tuttle, unloaded in dotty tuttle. Nine months later, not that beginning, not not that beginning, not that beginning no, not at all.
Speaker 2:Not at all. So did you have a good holiday I?
Speaker 3:had a great holiday, nice, very nice, good, good family time spent with the kids, I would assume yeah, yeah and um, you know, I I usually like to keep it joyful in uh in the holiday season in terms of conversations and everything like that, but I noticed that Timmy is this kid that just has no problems talking to anyone I mean absolute strangers. He'll walk up to him and what are you doing? Oh, that looks neat. You're buffing your car, is it? Hey, why do you turn it? Why do you like uh, wipe it that way, you know? So he talks to like strangers, like it's nothing it's very curious curious kid just wide open and everything like that.
Speaker 3:And uh, you know, back in our day, kev, you remember we didn't have to worry too much about that shit.
Speaker 2:No, you didn't Not at all.
Speaker 3:We actually had a semblance of a legal system that kept the uh hardcore, violent, uh criminals uh behind bars, but that doesn't happen anymore. Uh, so I have, as a matter of fact, I was, I was just recalling it, you know, um, after I'm talking to the boys, that I remember once I have. I remember one time and this is nothing and you'll agree with me on this is I got a flat tire in my BMX.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Uh, riding home from Little League, flat tire, and I'm walking, I'm walking my bike home, you know, know me, and just it's just me and my bike and some guy in a pickup truck, you know an old 80s pickup truck. Uh, yeah, he pulls over. I don't know who he is at all. He goes, son, let me help you out, throw, throw that thing in the back of my truck and I'll take you home. Tell me where you left, left.
Speaker 2:And I just did it. Of course it was a different time.
Speaker 3:I threw my. He grabbed it, you know. He went and got the hatch down. I rolled it over there. He threw it in it and I went and sat with him and we were talking about, you know, little league and baseball and everything like that. And he's telling me you know he played baseball and he met Don Drysdale one time and all that stuff and then he didn't try to fuck me or anything.
Speaker 2:No, just dropped you off at home.
Speaker 3:He didn't try to murder me. There was no murder. There was not even attempt. He didn't even try to put his hand on my knee. Wow, none of that shit.
Speaker 2:It's a beautiful time.
Speaker 3:We just talked about baseball for a few minutes and then there's my house and he let me out. You know he didn't lock the doors or anything like that. Let me out, he wouldn't help me get my bike out and he said good luck this season, kid, perfect, and that's it. That's it. But that shit doesn't happen anymore not at all. No so you got to have this discussion and, kev, I've had this discussion, uh, with my, with audrey and jonas about 10 years ago right and so what?
Speaker 3:what to do if somebody tries to kidnap you? Uh-huh, I would like to be uh informed on this as well well, I, I, I, um, I have always employed the hey, we're going to settle this right here and right now. Strategy Okay.
Speaker 3:So I tell the kids, you know, I told Audrey and Jonas this 10 years ago and I told Dal and Timmy, you know, over the holiday break this I say you know you settle it right here and now. You know you fight to the death right there on the street. You do not let anybody get you into a car or get you into a house. You scream and hoot and holler and go crazy, do whatever it takes, and if they kill you, if they kill you at least it wasn't a torture, rape, killing type thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That could be extended over days and weeks and months and shit like that. You just settle it right out there in the street you know it.
Speaker 2:But don't you think that, uh, yelling and hooting and hollering and fighting back, they might just let you go because that's not their strong suit? No, you know, fighting they're.
Speaker 3:They're actually uh for lack of a better word, they're pansies oh yeah, they, they, they don't want, they want no freaking now. Now, when they get you in their basement of their dungeon, they want fight, because that turns them on oh, yeah, yeah but right there in public with everybody around and everything.
Speaker 3:They don't want any attention nope so that's why I told them to do that. And you know, I remember, 10 years ago, adrian Jones said so. Sounds like a good strategy, dad duly noted. Dal and Timmy are a little different. Timmy said a quote oh yeah, dad, I'm going to kick them in the nuts, gouge his eyes out, and then, dad, I'm gonna uh, grab his head and twist him by his neck, around his neck, until I hear the snap. That's a good strategy.
Speaker 3:It's great strategy, son and I look over to dallas and he like steps towards me and he's got this like raptor switchblade that he got for Christmas Nice. He opens that thing up and he goes don't worry, dad, this person will immediately regret what he has done.
Speaker 2:Well, both your boys are a larger stature than the bulk of the kids their age, so I don't think they got anything to worry about.
Speaker 3:Oh, they'll be much easier targets than them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely so it's so.
Speaker 3:I mean, it was like it was like clockwork, it was like automatic.
Speaker 2:They got the game plan so you've got peace of mind now yeah, exactly, you ain't getting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're. You're going to the hospital. You, you might get one of my kids, but you're going to the hospital.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:And that'll make me proud.
Speaker 2:You're easier to catch in the hospital. Exactly.
Speaker 3:Then dad's coming to the hospital.
Speaker 2:And you thought you had problems with the kids.
Speaker 3:I don't care what anybody says. Man, you try to harm my kids and that I will kill you. Yeah. I will you know, let me look at the camera. Right now you try to harm one of my kids. I will you know, let me look at the camera right now you try to harm one of my kids.
Speaker 2:I will find you and I will fucking kill you, period, I don't care, I think there's a jury in Texas that would convict you.
Speaker 3:I don't care if they would Put me in with him. Wait, he's dead.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That would be my thing. It's like, you know, if you got busted like you did it in court. You know you went just crazy in court. I'm going to you. Know you, that was my kid blah blah blah and the contempt of court. I'm like cool, put me in with him.
Speaker 2:Just put me in with him.
Speaker 3:It'd be fun Same cage. There you go. There won't be any more proceedings Saving the taxpayer money. Exactly, you know Kev, for not being accessible nowadays. I had an inordinate number of people like jumping through hoops to try to reach out and connect with me over the past few weeks.
Speaker 2:Like regular people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean just people like you know. Oh yeah, I found you. You know I heard you shop here and you know I heard you go to church here and blah, oh yeah, I found you. You know I heard you shop here and you know I heard you go to church here. And it's because and you know this because you pointed out one of them to me there are some openings now for morning radio in Houston. Yes, there are. And uh, you know, uh Dean and Raj are are long time uh cohorts in the building at uh CMG. They got let go of correct. End of an era.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a long time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a long time. And then, um, the, the, the competitor that we had, uh, the morning bowl, they were let go too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I always liked George and Mo. They were very, very kind to us all the time.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, there's no, uh, there's never been, um, any animosity in that way. No, I've never, I've never been that way, uh, against competition, except when one one of our competitors popped off one time, except when one of our competitors popped off one time. And you know, when we were new in the city, kev and our competitors, I was walking past them, they had a broadcast going on and they said oh, there's the young pup, the new young pup in town. You know, I don't know, he's got a little bit of a bark. Should we be afraid? And one of them goes yeah, a lot of times, young, young pups, uh, try to cross street, get run over oh really and I looked over at him.
Speaker 3:I don't know if did I ever tell you this never have. I have not heard this and I looked over to them where they were broadcasting and I looked both of them in the eye and I did the cut throat thing. Nice, and about a year and a half later they were gone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're competitive by nature, so you really don't have to give us any incentive to be more competitive. You really don't.
Speaker 3:You wouldn't have heard anything from me at all. I would. As a matter of fact, we could have been become friends If, if I walked past and they said they said, oh, there's the. There's the new competitor, new guy in town, hey, come over here. Well said, they said, oh, there's the, there's the new competitor, new guy in town, hey, come over here. Well, we're going to tell you about the town and we're going to talk to you.
Speaker 2:See how you're going. You know we probably could have been friends, yeah, but you had to pop off so yeah, they uh I think I know who you're talking about and they weren't long for uh, they weren't long for the competition they were gone quickly yes, yes, they were.
Speaker 3:Anyway, kev, I would say, around eight or nine different people are just like oh, are you and Kevin coming in? You and Kevin coming in? Oh, come on, tell me you and Kevin are coming in. And I just said, hey look, I said you know, if the right opportunity comes up, kevin and I are open to a return to terrestrial radio. Unfortunately, I believe, though, that you know this is the pattern divesting. These companies are divesting in a, in a collapsing industry. So you know, I doubt that, I doubt that they're going to go looking for some. You know I paid guns to replace these people.
Speaker 2:Well, I too had people asking me about this when I was in Houston for the Ultra 55 and they were asking me what are the reasons why people get let go? You know high profile people like Dean and Raj and like like George and Mo and I said, well, you have to understand that radio is kind of cut its own throat. Okay, because you can go get that music anywhere Spotify, anywhere Okay, what you can't get are the personalities. So I said, you know they're paying high salaries and then they're cutting uh, they're cutting the, the entertainment time. So you know, it's a it's a hard battle to win, yeah, I mean the, the.
Speaker 3:The industry did it to themselves. You know it's a hard battle to win. Yeah, I mean the industry did it to themselves. You know a lot of it's technology, but the industry did it to themselves. First off, it got way too corporate tight playlists, same old shit over and over and over and over and over again. You didn't give the personalities of things that make a difference enough room to grow and be themselves and everything like that, and you were too worried about a buck, you know. So you cut back on investing in these personalities and lo and behold, you know, streaming comes along, where I can make my own 22 minute playlist on the way to work, exactly how I want it yeah you know there's no, there's no program director on planet earth that can make me a fucking playlist exactly how I want it.
Speaker 3:And now I have this technology, why do I need to listen to you? Uh, not only that very shitty and ridiculous uh ratings methods the ratings are horrible. It is such a ludicrous thing, and how can people sell that? It's like you know, you got 2,000 people representing 6 million Houstonians and it's flat out a racist methodology too.
Speaker 2:That it is.
Speaker 3:It is blatantly a racist methodology and it is Kev. You know, I took market research classes because I'm a marketing, I have a marketing degree. Right, if I would have presented the Nielsen model to my professor, my professor would look at it and go you're fucking kidding me. Yeah, right, this is it.
Speaker 2:But yet a whole industry thrived on that, and it's only one company that rates Exactly. I mean, you talk about a monopoly, but check this thing out though. Smartphones are such, computers are such. Now that Trish and I can have a conversation about a product, boom, we start seeing advertisements. You can't tell me that they don't have measurement sources out there that can tell you exactly who's listening, when and where.
Speaker 3:Not only that, kev, but you don't just go with this flawed system, this flawed, racist low sample system. It's one of many different things that you can do to rate terrestrial radio. You still got to have diary. You still got. You got to have profile groups and, yes, you have to have innovative cutting edge technology to, you know, figure out the data of who's listening to what based. It's so easy now, yeah, it is. I mean, there's data of every key stroke that you've punched in on your phone and your computer, kevin. There's data reflecting that. Sure, so they got lazy because it's just all about money.
Speaker 2:Well, and Nielsen probably has so many lobbyists in there trying to keep them the only game in town. Having said all of this, I did email Radio 1 this morning. Oh, did you About, about us and what did they say? Oh, they haven't gotten back to me.
Speaker 3:I mean seriously, I just sent it 10 minutes before we got on oh, wow, yeah, radio one is the uh, that's the dean and raj, one that's the classic rock that's the eagle, that's it tim.
Speaker 2:I mean we're set for that, I mean we are perfect for that. You know, we grew up on radio. We grew up on led Zeppelin and rush and queen. I mean, in all honesty, I think country music has passed me by. You know, I think I'm too. I think I'm too old for that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah that, that that's the thing too, but classic rock would be perfect.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:I mean for those of you this is no shock to anybody listening to this or watching this right now. Kevin Kleiner have been, and always were, rockers.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I grew up on Led Zeppelin, pink Floyd, kiss, motley Crue. You know, these were my bands.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ozzy Judas Priest Van Halen.
Speaker 3:Exactly, these were our bands, right, and you should be able to hear that in our voice and you know who we are. Yeah, so it would be perfect.
Speaker 2:Yep, so anyway, uh, just uh letting you know that, uh, I have thrown our hat into the ring.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's nice, that's nice. Well, let me know how that goes. The only problem kept the. The only thing I worried, I'm worried about is, you know, timmy T, my on-air persona. He died as I was passing Chimney Rock on 59 South on May 10th 2022.
Speaker 2:Just be you. This wins, bro. This will win. We don't need personas.
Speaker 3:We just got to be us, know. I know, yeah, I was, but you know, I was just, I was just always a character I know, I know, but I like this timmy t better yeah, he's kind of a pussy no, no, he's not, he's real let me tell you how.
Speaker 3:Let me let me tell you how I'm a pussy too okay I, I got a, an incredible compliment over the holidays and you're involved with it too, so this will be kind of cool. Now it's not a um, you know, there goes roy hobbs the best there ever was but but it's still very cool. I'm going into church and, uh, I'm walking into church and then I hear from the corner, hey, it's Tim Tuttle. It's Tim Tuttle. I was like, oh yeah, I used to be, he goes. Well, who are you?
Speaker 3:Now I said, well, you know, I'm Timothy Tuttle, I'm Andre Jonas Dallas and Timmy's dad. And you know I'm Timothy Tuttle, I'm Andre Jonas Dallas and Timmy's dad. And you know, he knew, obviously knew them, and everything like that. Then he told the people around him he goes, I am, I grew up on him and Kevin Kline and Eric Rico and I was a big fan and everything like that. And you know, then he said he goes, he goes. Uh, and this, this, I don't know where he got this. I've never heard this before. Tell me if you've ever heard it. He said I don't know if Tim Tuttle is in a class by himself, but when that class gets together it doesn't take long to do roll call, Wow. And I was like, oh right. I was like, oh, I got to go.
Speaker 2:What a great compliment.
Speaker 3:I was like, wow, man, that's pretty cool. I don't know if that's true or not, I'm just some guy, very poetic though. But I had to quickly like jet out of there because I felt a little teary eyed, so I had to get into church quickly. I was like, damn dude, why? Why, you gotta don't do that more that's a great quote. I love that I thought I don't know. I tried to look it up. I don't know where it came from maybe he's just a wordsmith no, he had to admit yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:I mean I I think of stuff pretty quickly, but that's like next level. I mean that's somebody that pondered something like that or heard that and it was attributed to somebody else.
Speaker 2:I don't know if he's in a class by himself, but if there's a classroom and a roll call is being taken, it's a short roll call. I love that man, Isn't? It? Is that good? Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3:And I was like, oh man, yeah, that's cool. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not that guy, Not that guy. He died on 59 in Chimney Rock.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I thought that's cool. Let me know if you get any response from him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, geez no, I'm not going to tell you anything. You're three quarters of the team. Geez, no, I'm not going to tell you anything.
Speaker 3:You're three-quarters of the team, bro. Suddenly you'll call me and say hey, oh yeah, I forgot to tell you we're on the Eagle. We start tomorrow. Do some show prep, yeah.
Speaker 2:There's something you wrote on the battle plan and I can't wait to find out what it is. What's?
Speaker 3:that.
Speaker 2:You had a miracle catch at the grocery store.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, Kev, this was. You know, I'm so proud of this. I'm in the grocery store and in the aisle next to me there's stalker guy working there. He's stalking the shelves, uh-huh, he's got airpods. He's just jamming and um, I'm on the other side and I suddenly notice on the top shelf like some vinaigrette bottles, some bottles like starting to shake a little bit. He's pushing things so far in that he doesn't know, on the aisle next to that he's causing some issues. Yeah, so I saw. I first I heard the rumbling and then I saw the movement and I was like immediately make a break. I was like maybe six to 10 feet away. I caught not one, but two, and the other one I had to like the other one was like a diving stab to stop them from hitting the ground, and then I moved my body in case any more were coming. So it would hit me and not hit the ground, because that's a vinaigrette bottle man that's going to.
Speaker 2:It's exploding.
Speaker 3:That's going to explode, man, that's going to be everywhere. So I made these unbelievable catches, ke. I mean, you know, I was always good, I played shortstop, I was, I always had the range, I always took a stab at it, but I I didn't know I had it in there.
Speaker 2:You know, 30 years later, and demico ryan's was in the other island said hey, we need a replacement for tank dell the playoff game that's funny.
Speaker 3:Are you in that's? Oh, in a second. I would love to, but unfortunately, kevin, I'm looking around and there was nobody around to see it at all. Oh, and I was so bummed because they were just such great catches they kind of have the footage well, cab. I went through the rest of the time, uh, in that grocery store, thinking man, what if I went to the front desk there and said, hey, can you pull the footage? I just you know, and if you need 10 bucks I'll give you 10 bucks because that's some really good footage. Yeah, then I thought to myself you know that I want, I don't know, I don't want to be that, that, that dick, but Kev.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I caught past this from Bart Starr, and now I'm talking about Gerard's vinaigrette.
Speaker 3:It was exactly oh Kev. They were great catches, but it just it just sucks, man. It's like hey, man, it's just, I just needed one person to see it.
Speaker 2:Well, did the stalker know.
Speaker 3:Well, I walked around afterwards I told him what was going on. You know, you could see the skinned. My knee was a little skinned and red from the diving stab and I told him you know, I got it, I caught these right here. You know, you just might want to be careful. He goes oh, oh bro, I'm sorry man, I'm like, hey, no problem. And uh, I was thinking of asking him if he would go to the manager to pull the surveillance video. But seeing just on a quick judgment of who he was, I don't think he is held well and well esteem with management. I don't think he's ever going to be employee of the month.
Speaker 2:Oh, poor guy.
Speaker 3:His picture. As a matter of fact, I would venture to say he's hanging by a thread, oh no, and by me, even bringing this up with management that I made. These catches would probably cost him his gig.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah probably so, so I couldn't do that to cost him his gig. Yeah, yeah, probably so.
Speaker 3:So I couldn't do that to the dude.
Speaker 2:No no, you have a heart.
Speaker 3:Cause I, you know, I know who he is, I've been that guy, you know, 17 year old. Uh, I've just taken whatever gig, man, I just need enough. You know, little reef, little weed, little gas money, my girl.
Speaker 2:Oh hey, speaking of girls, how's the neighbor really?
Speaker 3:yeah, I mean it didn't was it a parent thing? Yeah, a little pushy on. My parents are here, I mean, and that was it and I, I just I don't want that, sure. And yeah, over the past, uh, you know, few nights and few, I was like, well, I kind of wish she was still around Because she was hot and my type of nasty, but I just, and I tried to warn her Hell, this podcast tried to warn her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I'm just you know if it happened organically that I was going to meet her parents because they were here for the holidays, great. But you know, after the third text on the day, I was like, yeah that's football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of football.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean these are great. These are great games too. I mean we're trying to slot for playoffs and seeding for playoffs and shit like that. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I think it was the first round of the CFP that she's got a little squirrely yeah and I I don't know. You know she's in a huff right now.
Speaker 2:She's not happy so what's the chance that you might run into her in the, in the complex?
Speaker 3:I, I. The chances are about 40 or 50 percent that I would see her sometime within a month while I'm doing cardio oh, okay so I mean who knows? I mean you know what's that?
Speaker 2:will it be awkward nah okay, that's good because I.
Speaker 3:I met a I, you know I. I was very upfront and I was like I'm not looking for any kind of relationship and, as you well know now I was not bullshitting around and kev, she's just one of those. She's just one of those, one of those women and we've talked about it before extremely attractive, that are not used to adversity or not getting their way. And she just thought, hey, man, you know I'm hot yeah, snap the finger she's like you know, that's what she's hot.
Speaker 3:She's like I'm hot. Yeah, snap the finger. She's like you know, she's like I'm hot. I fuck good and I give. I give him his old face. I'm going to demand that he comes over and meets my parents and I'm just like no, there are others that can face it.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, I'm following you, I'm following you.
Speaker 3:So tell me a little bit about your holiday there. How did the snow drop? Was it the 55?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Ultra 55. We gave out 102, 100, 150, 200-mile buckles total, and then we're almost $100,000 raised with that race. So yeah, it went great.
Speaker 3:Awesome buddy, yeah, thanks Awesome. You do such000 raised with that race so, yeah, it went great. Awesome buddy, yeah, thanks Awesome. You do such good, great work with that. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that, buddy. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:And Kev, I'm definitely doing the softball in 2025.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's in September.
Speaker 3:Yeah, put me down, for it is 100% for sure, and I'm also going to try to get clemens are you really?
Speaker 2:yeah, that would be phenomenal. Would that be unbelievable? Oh my god, it would be huge would that be?
Speaker 3:yeah, but he wouldn't want any ballyhoo or anything like that.
Speaker 2:He's, he's cool yeah, yeah, we just bring him out do you because you remember how he is.
Speaker 3:He's just like uh, hey, my name's roger, nice to meet you yeah, it was really, really unassuming yeah, I'm like no, you're a rocket, you're, you're, you're goat man, you're seven times my young ward winner. He's like no, no, no, no, I'm no, I'm just. I'm just, I'm just roger tim, you know, you do. You do good with your little second date update too, and you're really good on the radio and I'm not going goo, goo, gog over you. I'm like dude, I'm an ass clown in comparison to you. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:yeah yeah, no, he's. Uh, he was really cool. Well, at the time that I met him, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3:I mean he's, he's, he doesn't want ballyhoo, he's not big on ballyhoo no he does, uh, he does like it, though, when you uh, when you give him accolades, give him props for his career Of course. And Kev, I've ever brought this up with you. I had an argument with some guy I golfed with. It was last year.
Speaker 3:It was a year and a half ago or something like that, and we were talking about the greatest picture of all time. Who's the greatest picture of all time? Like if an alien? Did I ever tell you this? No, if an alien, uh, you know civilization. A bunch of ships came down and they landed and they said, hey look, uh, we're gonna kill everybody here and take it for resources, but we, we're going to give you one chance, uh, to survive, all 7 billion of you. Um, we've kind of taken a liking. We've been watching you for hundreds of years. I did tell you this.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 3:For for hundreds of years we've been watching you and we've taken a liking to your game called baseball. So we play it on planet, okay, we play it all the time. And we have flown down with us here our number one slugger. His name is bleep blop bloop, little bit off, and you know, bleep blop, bloop blah. You know he comes down from one of the ships and he's just just like like huge, just jacked man and he goes. Here's the thing. We're gonna fly this ship to Fenway Park and if you have a pitcher that can strike out bleep-blop-bloop-blop-bloop-blop, we're going to leave the planet alone. Okay, but if he puts one over the left field wall, green Monster, we're killing every single one of you on the planet. Damn. He said, and the guy goes. But here's the deal. Don't ask me. Kev, know how around a golf as you know, 18 holes is four hours. We're having this conversation over multiple holes right and bleep.
Speaker 3:And then you know, the leader says you know, here's what you know bleep blop, bleep blop. Blue is so good um that we want your best ever pitcher Okay. So we have the technology that you tell us who the best ever pitcher is. We'll put them in their prime and then they will face them on the mound at Fenway Park. So we were having this conversation. Well, who would you have pitch? Who would be the guy?
Speaker 3:Is bleep-blop-bloopity bop uh left hander or right hander bleep, blop, bloop blop, though is a right hander okay, he's a right hander okay he's, he's a right hander. Uh, I'm glad so you're. You're into this now too, aren't you?
Speaker 2:I'm right with you, buddy we're trying to save the planet. Here, man, exactly, it's all of it's all of humanity.
Speaker 3:We're all dead if we don't do this right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's what I was trying to explain to my golf buddy. I was like, hey, man, we got to do this right. Well, the first thing that he threw out was Randy Johnson.
Speaker 2:I think Randy would be a great choice.
Speaker 3:And I said no fucking way.
Speaker 2:Not from the right side though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, first off, bleep-blop-bloop-blop's a right-hander.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Second off. I'm not even sure that Randy Johnson is the greatest Johnson pitcher, Walter Johnson.
Speaker 2:Walter was really good.
Speaker 3:You know I said without a doubt, man, you got to go Roger Clemens, when you absolutely positively have to strike out an alien to save the entire civilization, you got to get Roger Clemens. Okay, now the big question is is what era Roger Clemens do you get? Do you get, you know, early years with the Red Sox, or do you Kev, even though it was like a flash in the pan, quick? Uh, I think his he looked his best that year or two he was with the Toronto blue Jays.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:He was fucking insane.
Speaker 2:I think he was insane his entire career.
Speaker 3:Yeah, or do you get the season one, cause you know there's a lot of pressure? Sure, I'm not sure we want 24, 25, 27, even maybe 30-year-old Roger on the mound with those kind of stakes. We're talking humanity here.
Speaker 2:I don't think Roger ever felt pressure I really don't and no matter what era he was playing, I think he thrived off of that. So I don't think we've got to worry there with Roger saving all of humanity because he's going to choke.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, well, you know, you know. Still, man, it's better to be smart than to have any regrets later. So even though he had, he was dominating as like a 22 year old or whatever. It was in 86, that first year with the red sox.
Speaker 3:We don't get him that at that time, dude had 21 strikeouts in a game I know 27 outs in a 27 outs in a game Dude, I know, I know, I know, hey, trust me, I know. But I think we got to get the Wiley one. Okay, I think we got to get him. You know, early 2000s, yankees, you know, around the time him and Piazza had their little spat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 3:Or maybe even you know 05 with the Astros, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 3:You tell me, you tell me First off. You tell me. Am I crazy passing up Randy Johnson.
Speaker 2:No, Randy Johnson's good, I would go Mariano Rivera. And the only reason I say Mariano Rivera is because he was a specialty guy. You know Roger's a starter, so is Roger at the beginning of the game. He needs a little bit of time to get in the groove. Late in the game he's throwing a lot of pitches.
Speaker 3:Mariano, dude the Sandman, are you kidding? Yeah, trust me, I see your point, but if you're going to go relief pitcher, I mean I think you got to go. Al Mabrowski, the bad Hungarian.
Speaker 2:I grew up watching that dude. He was a trip.
Speaker 3:Just to watch him bang the mitt and go. I'm going to fuck you up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the mad Hungarian, can you remember? I mean, you faced clemens for eight innings and then you get rivera for the ninth oh yeah, that was nasty dude, slit your wrist.
Speaker 3:You got nothing going on man, you're done, particularly if, if, if, if clemens is hitting his locations, there's nothing you can do, no, there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2:There's nothing you can do, even if it's only like six innings, you know, then they, then they have somebody that'll get them to, uh, to mariana, in the ninth inning yeah yeah, that's, that's nasty, that's nasty shit I feel good about humanity's prospects with our choices, either being roger clemens or mariana rivera, I feel good that we're we're still a species I don't know, man bleep, blop, blueop.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure he's on the roids.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's got to be.
Speaker 3:Totally. I mean, he was like Kev. You should have seen him when he came down on that ramp, on that. Just all fucking jacked man.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah Well.
Speaker 3:Don't ask. Don't ask me where this conversation, something like this, starts. Just don't ask me.
Speaker 2:I think it's a brilliant conversation. Hypothetical conversations are awesome all the time.
Speaker 3:Oh, and unfortunately we're having this conversation in January talking about baseball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're a month away from spring training.
Speaker 3:Well, that's true. But you know, kevin, january we got to have this discussion about football. Okay, and I, I mean same thing, same scenario. Alien invaders come to our planet. They've taken over the last hundred years to our game called football, even though they don't understand it, because we use our hands. But you know, after that conversation they're like hey, I've got the 11 best defensive guys in the universe on this team. We're going to put the ball on this one yard line. You give me, you know, your best 11 and you've got a score within two minutes. We'll give you your three timeouts, but you got to score within two minutes, or we're blowing the whole fucking planet up. So let's, let's, build that team. You know, you when you when you, absolutely. And of course, they still have their little time machine, kev. So we could get era too. We could mix with, you know, at peak era, okay.
Speaker 2:So obviously we want to start off with the quarterback who's going to qb this Time machine, kev.
Speaker 3:so we could get era too. We could mix with, you know, at-peak era, okay. So obviously we want to start off with the quarterback who's going to QB this thing. I think Mahomes comes to mind, but with this kind of pressure he may be still a little young.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:A little young. Do you go early 80s? Joe Montana.
Speaker 2:That's a solid, solid choice. I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 3:Do you like early? Okay?
Speaker 2:Unflappable. The dude was unflappable.
Speaker 3:Just absolutely even keel at all times, will not worry about the pressure of 7 billion people dying. If he fails, he won't worry about it. Yeah. All right, let's give him one running back. I want somebody that can catch the ball too.
Speaker 2:How was Eric Dickerson out of the backfield?
Speaker 3:Dickerson was the prettiest runner ever in history to watch. However, I want somebody as a safety valve with a good pair of hands. I would actually go his successor in Indianapolis, marshall Falk. Oh wow, before I would go him, I want somebody that can catch the ball. Okay, and I you know. The first thing comes to mind, particularly 1999, marshall falk kev.
Speaker 3:He ran for 1300 yards and he caught for 1100 damn, that's well-rounded yeah, I saw you almost, but but I'm not 100 on that right now. Let's, let's talk that through because, uh, you know there's there's something to be said about having derrick henry I love that guy god that guy gets go, it's forget it dude, did you see?
Speaker 2:did you see him on the uh, on the christmas day game, where they tried to get him to eat a piece of cake and he said no, uh, no, I'm not eating cake no, no what a physique man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's just that, that guy right there. Uh, yeah, he gets going. It's him, or a Lynch Marshawn, lynch, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The human bowling ball Seattle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I remember yeah.
Speaker 3:One of those two edges. They get going and they can't be stopped. My only worry, though, is the hands okay, because I want to give montana somebody that hey, man, they're all covered. This fucking defense is unbelievable. They got guys uh on this alien team running three 940s well you know, montana might say roger craig true, and then that's another thing is do do you make Montana so comfortable that you got to have Rice out there too? A wide receiver.
Speaker 2:Dude, how do you not have Rice?
Speaker 3:You got to. He's the best. Yeah, he's the best. As a matter of fact, I would suspect if you have Joe Montana and Jerry Rice, most of the yardage you're going to need most of the 80 yards that you're going to need is going to come from him hitting Rice. Yeah, most of the yardage you're going to need, most of the 80 yards that you're going to need is going to come from him hitting rice. Yeah, but who else do we, who else do we have at receiver? I mean, who else does joe montana throw to? Um, you know, I, I, I think you got to get randy moss man. I think you got to have randy moss okay he's a guy who could go up.
Speaker 3:He's a guy with great hands. He's a guy with un-fucking-believable speed. I almost think you got to have randy moss somewhere. Uh, uh, on that field all right am I crazy? Who am I missing?
Speaker 2:no, no, that's a good one. It's a good one. Um lynn swan, john stalworth, how they, how they yeah, don't be mistaken.
Speaker 3:Okay, the 70s era stuff. Yes, it's nostalgic for us and yes, those, those are players. That's to us seen eight feet tall and they seem like gods. But those are also players. Probably wouldn't be able to cut it in the modern game at least as well as they did then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, the modern game is way different, way different.
Speaker 3:It's like OJ Simpson was an incredible running back and he had skills and he had size and he had speed, but he would be just north of average now, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I think he would just be. I really do. I really think that he would get swallowed up by some of the speed that's out there on defense. Well, especially now, because he's, you know, dead now don't get me wrong, he had a a great slashing.
Speaker 2:He did yeah you really slice through that defensive line yeah, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I I don't know if you go stalwart salon I I I don't know, I I think you have to go um, who is uh megatron from detroit, calvin williams cal. Oh, I can't remember his name man.
Speaker 2:He retired too soon. Yeah, who is a Megatron from Detroit? Calvin Williams.
Speaker 3:I can't remember his name man. He retired too soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did yeah.
Speaker 3:Calvin God. What is his name?
Speaker 2:It was Calvin something Johnson, Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 3:Calvin Johnson. That's it. Yeah, that dude was nasty. Yes he was. That dude was nasty.
Speaker 2:You know who else can go get the ball?
Speaker 3:justin jefferson justin jefferson can get the ball. You know who else is steady is from galveston ball high school and texas a&m mike evans. My god dude. 11th year in a row he went over a thousand yards yeah, and you know, you know, I remember when he played for galveston Ball.
Speaker 2:He's tied with Jerry Rice for the most consecutive years of a thousand yards.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if we went to a gridiron invasion very early on in our days here, probably about 2006 or seven, and he was playing on the other team and I just remember watching him and I was like that dude will be a multi, multi-millionaire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, he got three million yesterday, just on us.
Speaker 3:But you know how it is. Sometimes you could just look on a field and just go. Okay, particularly a high school field, even some college fields, when everything tightens up a little bit in terms of, uh, talent, you could tell who players are who are going to be really fucking good sure you can yeah, I, just I, I that just glares that day that we were at, uh, gridiron invasion and the announcer was calling at mike reception, evans, blah, blah, blah, 17 yards.
Speaker 3:And I was just like that dude looks different yeah, and he was and he still is so, yeah, congratulations to him. Galveston ball. One of our locals here, kevin, the houston metro area. All right, all right. So we got a pretty good team there. I mean obviously the offensive line. We I think we just get the biggest monsters we can find right now.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah for sure yeah, yeah, you know, because you know, now you have you. I mean you just take like today's all pro team offensive linemen, put them out there, because these are dudes that are 320, 330 pounds, that run four, 6, six, forties, four, seven, forties and just move bodies.
Speaker 2:For sure they can pancake block Beep bop. Doop doop, doop bop. Regardless of his size.
Speaker 3:How do you like that? Beep bop, doop bop, fuck you.
Speaker 2:Beep bop, doop, doop, bop.
Speaker 3:Exactly, fuck, you exactly did. Hey, hey, man, did we just write a movie script here? I think we did, I think we did. I think both of these are fucking movie scripts, like one's one's the sequel, you know, yeah, right, we start off with the baseball one, and then, you know, 10, know, 10 years later, after saving the planet you know, roger Clemens, they come back and now they're playing football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they went back to their planet and evolved a different game.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Oh my God, we got a franchise.
Speaker 2:They're hell bent on ruining humanity on Earth.
Speaker 3:They're hell-bent on ruining humanity on Earth. Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline present Alien Invasion 5, la Crosse Beautiful, that's funny. In two years curling. Oh, I love, I love that shit. Okay, kev, yeah, let's do this. Uh, let's do uh be honest be honest be honest. Uh, be honest. Be honest Me only once a week, from hundreds of miles away, is much better than five days a week in the same room, right?
Speaker 2:No, I mean, if that were the case I wouldn't have thrown our hat in the ring preliminarily for trying to get back on the air in Houston. So no, no, especially now, man, I mean you know growing older w older, wiser, you know, more comfortable in our own skin, both of us. I mean it's fun hanging out with you now oh, cool again.
Speaker 3:Don't ever forget, though, the tim tuttle thing what great fun for a little while. Then you're looking at your fucking watch.
Speaker 2:Dude 25 years bro, 25 years, bro, 25 years.
Speaker 3:All right, what's your be honest?
Speaker 2:My be honest is this okay? So we were in Houston for the Ultra 55, and it was 80 degrees and it was like 60% humidity. We fly back home Now we're under two inches of snow and a quarter inch of ice and the temperatures are 19. So here's my be honest. Be honest, would you rather spend a year in 90 degree heat and 90% humidity, or would you rather spend six months in 70 degree heat and no humidity, but the other six months are zero in ice? Ooh, all right.
Speaker 3:Say that again. Say it one more time.
Speaker 2:Okay, you either get a year in 90 degree heat and 90% humidity, like a Houston summer, but it's that year round or you trade that in for six months with San Diego weather and the other six months Appleton Wisconsin weather.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I gotta tell you I would probably stay in the oven.
Speaker 2:My wife would too, tim I I.
Speaker 3:I would. I just I remember those winters in Wisconsin and Indiana, particularly Wisconsin that's. That was a different kind of cold.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, but man, that heat is oppressive bro but man, that heat is oppressive, bro, I, I, I know, I know, I know, but I, I, I, I, I, I like it, though I like it, I like heat, I like you know, because you know I'm kev, you know I, I evaluate timmy graduates high school in 2034 okay and I'm thinking to myself well, what am I going to do after he graduates high school?
Speaker 3:obviously I want to stay here in in texas, um, so I could be close to my 14 year old and nine year old sons. Sure that you know I it would. It would take something really, really special to move me away from that. But, uh, you know what would I and every option that I have Kev is heat. You know, miami, las Vegas, costa Rica, thailand, bali. You know these are the places that I'm thinking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I've long said there are two people on this planet. There are beach people and there are mountain people.
Speaker 3:Now, I like mountains.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm talking about living.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would not want to live there. Yeah, I would not want to live. I love to visit there. It's beautiful and every so often it's good to be on your toes with a crisp wind and a little bit of snow. But hey, man, I want, you know, I wake up and I walk out of my hut on the white sand beach, I want to hear Jimmy fucking Buffett and I want to see a hammock, you know, hanging from two palm trees. That's what I want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's about the only thing that Trish and I disagree on. I'm a mountain guy, give me the cold weather all day long, and she would much prefer palm trees.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm. Is that an issue?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, not after 30 years together.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, exactly. What are you going to do, kev?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I mean yeah exactly what are you going to do, kev yeah exactly.
Speaker 3:I mean, if she eventually puts her foot down, hey, you're going to become fucking beach guy, that's right. You're going to figure out a way to make it work, buddy, yeah.
Speaker 2:Corona and Lyme.
Speaker 3:Bring it on, because I'll tell you this right now, man, you are not going to find somebody else that fucking puts up with your bullshit the way she does not even close not even close and I got. I gotta hand it to you. That's probably I mean, don't get me wrong kevin klein, very talented guy. Kevin klein, very charitable guy kids with cancer. But his greatest thing is he found a woman that'll put up with his fucking complete whacked out out of your skull, fucking bullshit, and she ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 2:Congratulations to you. Thank you, that's what I always say. It's my proudest accomplishment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, whereas you know, here I am is I can treat you well, you know, uh, nice vacations, nice house, everything like that. I can make you get the old face and your eyes roll back into your head with my skills. And yet after about a year, two years, you're like well, that's, that's been fun, got to go. Yeah, all right, kev, let's finish this up. Do we have time? I don't even know how we are on time.
Speaker 2:We're good, we're real good on time.
Speaker 3:Let's do a rabbit hole, shall we.
Speaker 2:Rabbit hole of the week. What was your rabbit hole? You were caught in. So our friends bob and kim have been trying to get us to watch killing eve for the longest time with sandra o and jody comer. Are you familiar with this show?
Speaker 3:I'm not familiar with the show, but I'm very familiar with sandra oh yeah, she's a phenomenal actress.
Speaker 2:okay, there's four total seasons, Tim. We watched the first season in three days and then we got to halfway through the second season and we just called it quits. But yeah, four days in a row, of killing Eve Not a big fan of the show.
Speaker 3:Didn't do it for you.
Speaker 2:Nope, did not, did not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kevin, and that'll happen. I, you know, I had the same thing happen to me. I was watching the show about hedge funds, billions on on Showtime, yeah yeah, and I loved it for the first four seasons. And then they started getting political, they started pushing agendas. You know, you know, and you know, it's obvious that this mike prince is is trump and you're trying to, you know, use lawfare to destroy him. I mean, you're that the template of what we saw in uh 2024 last year was probably gotten from the show? Well, and I'm just like I'm not doing it, fuck that yeah, killing eve.
Speaker 2:Four seasons and each season was written by a different female lead writer. And even the critics say that after season two it went completely downhill. I'm not even getting halfway through season two. It's just so radically different yeah so anyway, that was real quick though.
Speaker 3:are you liking because you know this is kind of like uh, we talked about this a couple podcasts ago, episodes ago Are you liking the new Dexter?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool, is it? Yeah, dexter origins when he is a teenager and then he becomes, you know, a college student and then gets hired by the Miami Forensics Department. Yeah, it's actually pretty cool. It's neat. Did you get through all of the original dexter?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, we got through that, and uh and uh, new blood and new blood. Okay, I, I I'm I'm kind of torn, because I think I watched 90 of original dexter. I watched, I think, a season of New Blood.
Speaker 2:That's all. It was was one season.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, but I'm wondering how far back I should go to get boned up on the new Dexter.
Speaker 2:Don't have to go back at all. Nah, don't have to go back at all. If you're familiar, if you even have a cursory familiarity, a tertiary, a peripheral familiarity, you'll get it.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 3:What was your rabbit hole? The rabbit hole. I can't I. I don't know how this started. I just kept doing it, I kept going, I kept watching titanic documentaries, the documentaries yeah, yeah, not the movie no, no, no, no, no. I watched that too.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And again, like I've said before, first half fucking blows. Second half of the movie is phenomenal. Anyway, there's a new documentary out and I was fascinated by that. They did scientific discoveries and I don't know if these are well-known. Tell me if you've ever heard these before. They put science and data uh, you know trying to find out you know what happened. It's just cause the shit just didn't make sense. A lot of what happened didn't make sense. A lot of what happened didn't make sense. And they figured out that a rare mirage from a crystal clear night with millions of stars is one of those things worth millions of bursting stars. And I'm sure you've seen these before because you're a runner at night, where you know it looks like the horizon isn't even there. It just all blends together. It's impossible to see where the sky starts and the sea ends. Like one of those night. And the science says this created a mirage which shielded the iceberg until 37 seconds, exactly 37 seconds, before the side swipe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, by then it's too late.
Speaker 3:You can't turn that quickly, quickly yeah, it was an optical illusion and these guys in the crow's nest didn't see it until there's 37 seconds left. You know, crow's nests are usually able to give the captain 30 minutes notice. Iceberg right side. But these guys, because of this phenomenon rare mirage phenomenon which happens, but it's very, very rare could not even see the iceberg until it was 37 seconds away.
Speaker 2:Very plausible.
Speaker 3:No, I mean it's proven.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Did you ever hear this? I never have heard this. No.
Speaker 3:Okay, also, they did the science on this. This is kind of fascinating. I was fascinated by this. Let me know if the science on this is kind of fascinating. I was fascinated by this. Let me know if you've heard this or not. That because 37 seconds before they, they uh, uh radioed down to the uh steer house and said iceberg dead ahead the wheelhouse, uh guy immediately cranked things to the left, immediately turned the ship to the left and also down below they were trying to reverse engines and all that shit, you know, just to do what they can to avoid it going left. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:So they sideswiped the iceberg which ripped a 300-foot uh in the, in the in the hall, yeah, 300, 300 foot uh, just ripped it uh and opened up too many compartments and caused it to sink. If they would have hit, if they wouldn't have pulled dead left, the steer house guy would pull it and they would have hit it straight on. The ship would have been incapacitated but it would not have sunk really they would have been rescued.
Speaker 3:You know the ship. The ship would have been done, oh yeah, and there probably would have been some injuries from the impact. Uh, but it would not have sunk and there would not have been a loss of life like that.
Speaker 2:Amazing.
Speaker 3:Isn't that crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if they take it straight on, they would have been fine.
Speaker 2:Well, you should come to Missouri, because down in Branson they have the world's largest Titanic museum.
Speaker 3:Shut your mouth.
Speaker 2:No, it's not the largest museum, it's the most artifacts from the actual wreckage yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's cool. Do they have a piece of the hole? I believe they do yeah, because they brought up a. You know, uh, cameron and his guys brought up like a huge giant piece of the hole, like like 10 tons. Okay, did you see it like a piece of the hole with the rivets and everything like that?
Speaker 2:I think so. I mean, I have to look at my pictures. But the interesting thing is, when you go into the museum, they give you a little playing card and you're one of the passengers, and then at the very end, you find out if you are one of the passengers that lived or died, wow.
Speaker 3:And then you find out if you are one of the passengers that lived or died.
Speaker 2:Wow, and then you find out their story.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's kind of cool. Yeah, it is, it's really cool. Yeah, Now you know. The next day the Carpathia showed up.
Speaker 2:The other ship.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the other ship that showed up and you know, picked everybody up out of the rescue boats, put them on. You know, anybody that survived was picked up the next day. But did you know, and I didn't know this, did you know that night, four miles away, there was another huge ship, the Californian.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't know that either.
Speaker 3:They could have been there before it sunk, wow, and the captain never lived it down. He died trying to clear his name. Never lived it down. He died trying to clear his name. Never lived it down. It's because of the mirage phenomenon, all the stars and everything like that, the horizon, confusion, the Morse code light. You know where the ships, like, try to signal each other. Yeah, the Morse code light. They couldn't tell because of all the bright lights that are going like this, like, like, like, kev, you've been to vegas at night, sure, and you look outside and you see all these lights and you know some of them are bursting and everything like that. Well, there's no light out there that's bursting like that. That's an optical illusion, you know, and that's so. They, they, they didn't know which light was giving off a signal. They weren't sure anybody was there. You know they, they were, they felt deceived. You know they were signaling and and you know, like, like, it was just a, just a mass confusion.
Speaker 2:It just seems like everything was set up against them.
Speaker 3:Exactly. But there's one thing, man, that the Californian captain, his name's Captain Lord. Okay, there's one thing that he fucked up that would have saved everything If he would have just woke up his, you know, a Morse code operator, his communications guy, because they only had one on that ship. Now in the Titanic they had two, so they had somebody manning that thing 24 seven, but on this ship there's only one and he did an 18-hour shift. Then he slept for six hours and he was sleeping during this time. If he would have just woke up that Morse code guy on his ship, the Californian, to directly try to contact the Titanic, they would have been saved, damn. And that's the one thing he fucked up on. He's like, yeah, the guy had just been up 18 hours. You know, we weren't getting anything here. I mean, there's some we think there was a ship there. You know, there's some noises and everything like that. We tried to, you know, signal them and communicate with them. There's really nothing that we could tell coming back. So I, you know, we just left.
Speaker 2:Wow, so I, you know, we just left Wow.
Speaker 3:Is that crazy?
Speaker 2:That's absolutely insane. I've never heard any of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Californian, four miles away.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't have taken them any amount of time to get there.
Speaker 3:Nothing. You flip that thing around. You know it took two hours for the ship to sink. Uh-huh, yeah, two hours and 20 minutes, or what it was Theifornian, uh, during all this, you know, checking, signaling timeout uh, they could have gotten there in 27 minutes.
Speaker 2:Wow, is that crazy that have been plenty of time yeah, man.
Speaker 3:So it's just like everything. It was like the perfect storm, everything working against, uh, the titanic, uh, you know just one of those things.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy, it's absolutely insane. I've never known that. So I mean it just kind of goes to show if it's your time, it's your time.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Speaking of. You will get an appreciation out of this because you're a numbers guy. There is a guy I just read this the other last week he has a higher IQ than did Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein. He has developed a physics formula and mathematic uh uh. Experts say that it is absolutely dead on. Positively true. He says that when you die, he has developed this mathematical equation. When you die, has developed this mathematical equation. When you die, you only die in the physical. Your spirit goes to another dimension I knew it yep, that's what he says I knew it.
Speaker 3:I just knew it, cal I, I knew it, man. I mean, I don't know what the exact story is and you know, I'm not the most of you know this, I'm not the most of you know this, I'm not the most devout religious person, but I just know there's something coming next and I just have a funny feeling if you're a dick here, you're not going to like next. Yeah. You know, if you're an evil fuck that did evil shit, you're not going to have your good next.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:And I don't know what it is. I don't know what the story is and I'm sure when we all die we're going to find out. You know like one religion will be doing an end zone dance. Yeah right, we told you, motherfuckers but can you wrap?
Speaker 2:can you even wrap your head around that equation, coming up with something that remarkable?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm wondering, you know the angles he took mathematically Right To get there. But I, you know, I can see it. I mean, I, I can see it, and you know, yeah, I, I could, I, you know, I've known, I've known, you know what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying yeah, I mean it made complete sense to me when I read it. Yeah, I know, you know I'm not, you know and I'm not a big organized religion guy. There's a lot of flaws, a lot of controversy, a lot of scandal, a lot of corruption. But, man, you can't just be on this planet, in this in, in, in. You know we are in a very intelligent and fortunate species and you just cannot be out here for, you know, 50, 60, 70, 80 years, acting like a fucking asshole, and it's not going to come back on you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just can't, you just can't. It doesn't. It doesn't make sense to me that one and done and I and kev, I've actually I've had a little bit of uh fun with atheists. I've, for some reason I've run into atheists a lot really over the past like couple months what do they do?
Speaker 2:just come up and introduce themselves.
Speaker 3:Hey jim, I'm kevin, I'm an atheist well, this is all part of the uh, you know, you know talking to people more thing and you know, you know really like uh, uh, getting into you know viewpoints and shit like that. But I, I've been saying this and you try this one time when you somebody tells, tells you they're an atheist, okay, uh, they do not believe in god until you offer them 20 for their soul. I'm over seven and getting the 20 bucks, they don't want to do it, just in case really yeah uh-huh seven atheists, kev.
Speaker 3:Over the past couple months I have approached you know, after I've you know they. They said they're, they're, they're an atheist, or whatever. I just said oh, you're an atheist. Well, I got a piece of paper here, I'm going to write this. I'm going to give you this 20 bucks. You give me your soul. Sign off right here. None of them did it because you just don't know, you don't you don't you don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why you live by the golden rule. Regardless of what your faith is, you just live by the golden rule.
Speaker 3:Do unto others Do unto others, you'll be fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we don't know about all the commandments. Jesus sounds good, but you're not 100. It could have been just some guys writing a cool story and you don't know Mohammed and Allah and all that shit, and you know. Then I don't even know what the fuck is going on with Scientology. And I don't want to offend anybody, but that Mormon shit seems like a stretch too. I'm like really, man, there's no Mormon kid in Utah that just said Dad, this shit doesn't make sense, man.
Speaker 2:What's religion and salvation have to do with the same underwear.
Speaker 3:Exactly. So I just jerked off. So I can't go to heaven now, really, really, really. But I could go like kill somebody and then be sorry for it and I'm good.
Speaker 2:Eternal salvation.
Speaker 3:I'm good, but I just jerked off and now it's not there for me.
Speaker 2:No, not anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so none of it makes sense, but that's why I do. All religions have some thread of the golden rule Do unto others.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely All right.
Speaker 3:Kev, this has been a blast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been a good episode to get back in the swing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and try that sometime on an atheist. Just whip out a 20. Kev. You'll hear records scree, screech and you'll hear them go oh, that's 20 bucks. You don't believe? Give me your soul. Nobody wants to do, not one no takers and that not not even one of the blue-haired fucking off the chart. I hate everyone, everyone, god, you know, gothic freakos are going to get to take the 20 bucks for the soul.
Speaker 2:That's interesting.
Speaker 3:Just in case.
Speaker 2:Yeah, heads your bet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Just to get Kevin. It's kind of like, you know, during wartime the the soldiers that were atheists when the shit was hitting the fan, there was a lot of praying to God. Yeah, there was. Hey, Bill, I just noticed as we were getting shelled last night that you started talking to God. Thought you were an atheist. Yeah, Right.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:All right, kev, great episode. Hey, look, there's something else. I talked to a bunch of people over the last three weeks who are telling me that they're listening to the podcast, they love the podcast and all that stuff, and every single one of them I talked to said they just press play on Spotify or the platform or whatever or whatever, and unfortunately, that's not how podcasts they keep score. It's all about downloads. So, please and I'm guilty of that too I mean I've listened to hundreds of Rogan and Bill Burr episodes, some true crime episodes. I've even listened to Klein's Fuzzy Mike and I just pressed play and I didn't download it.
Speaker 3:Do us a favor, download our episode. Just go do it right now. Download it. I know you're pressed play, but just all you have to do is grab your phone real quick, flip up, press download that's how they keep score and then make sure you subscribe. Give us a rating Love to get one of those 5.0 ratings. This is how the game is played. Please help us out. We have merchandise available on the Tuttle Kline Facebook is played, please help us out. We have merchandise available on the Tuttle Cline Facebook. We also have Tuttle Cline Instagram. I'll start posting little clips from our story again as soon as possible, now that we are back in the swing for 2025.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are cool and you always include a quote from one of our fans.
Speaker 3:I love those too, and I've got a bunch Jeb. There are people when they even say stuff to me uh-huh I like walk away and I'll like, uh, oh, yeah, make a note of my notes. I was like, hey, what was your, what was your first name?
Speaker 2:there you go okay, all right.
Speaker 3:What can I use your name? I'll make you immortal I'll make you more you will last for, because our tiktok, our tiktok will last. Yeah, we have TikTok, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And that'll last forever, that's you know. That'll be there forever. The stories go away after 24 hours on IG and Facebook. So TikTok, you can get the entire Tuttle and Klein selection, which is approaching 300 little clips right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, use that as a rabbit hole for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, have fun with that rabbit hole and we apologize in advance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't we though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Kev, what's going on with the Fuzzy Mike? Kevin's got a great other podcast called the Fuzzy Mike where he discusses mental health and also does some true crime stuff and all that shit. What do you have going on?
Speaker 2:Dude, I met an incredible athlete at our Ultra 55. When he was six years old, he used to get beat on by his dad, and so when you have that happen to you, that young in life, there's multiple ways that you could turn out. You could continue the cycle. You could become a criminal, you could become a professional fighter. This guy became a motivational speaker and his whole thing is you can do great things. And so I'm having him on on Tuesday, uh, on the fuzzy mic, to talk about athletic mindset and how you can take that into your own life. Love it. Great stuff, dude. He's phenomenal.
Speaker 3:I can't wait, I, I, I definitely will. Uh, listen, you know Audrey's got another hype girl coming up too, so you want to check out Audrey's stuff. She's got some really good stuff, things are happening with her and she's doing really really well.
Speaker 2:By the way, I was talking to Mike Dunlap at our at our race and he told me to tell Audrey hello, and then he's. I told her. I told Mike about her job with the Austin volleyball team and he said that's fantastic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he, he uh Dunlap marketing. He had her interning. That was tell. Tell him thank you. He was one of the people that uh uh instructed her and taught her a lot.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:All right, man, I gotta go.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all-new episode, and you can get more Cline on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
