Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #43: Law, Laughter, and Holiday Hijinks
Join us as we celebrate Timmy Tuttle's ninth birthday, complete with a surprise visit from his brother Ricky, who is serving our country in the Air Force in South Korea as he aspires to become an attorney.
Who knew that power and wealth can skew the scales of justice? Um, we did. From tragic amusement park accidents with staggering settlements to high-profile legal battles involving Tony Buzbee, P Diddy, and Jay-Z, we explore the intersection of wealth and ethics.
For a change of pace, we lighten the mood with some seriously dark humor as we tackle hypothetical heist scenarios, pondering the allure of crime and strategy.
Navigating the holiday season becomes a comedic endeavor as we share stories about Tuttle meeting "Thanksgiving Girl's" family for the first time. The tension and humor of dating dynamics come to life, set against the backdrop of nostalgic childhood Christmas gifts like the cherished yellow Schwinn bike. The episode wraps with a stroll down memory lane, reminiscing about toys like Rock'em Sock'em Robots, all while hinting at an unexpected visit to confession, setting the stage for our next episode’s revelations. Join us for a journey through love, law, and laughter, wrapped up in festive nostalgia.
Welcome to the Tuttle and Klein Show.
Speaker 2:He's so Calvin-y he's the most Calvin-y person in the Calvin world.
Speaker 3:Definitely. I thought you were going to go the most Calvin-y of all.
Speaker 2:The most. Oh, I was going to get there.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, all right, he is the most.
Speaker 2:Calvany of them all. Hello, Kevin Klein.
Speaker 3:Hi there, timmy T. How are you, buddy?
Speaker 2:I am well, sir. I am well as we roll into December and have another time flowing through the hourglass. The sand's flowing through the hourglass at a rapid rate. Today is Timmy Tuttle's birthday, nine years old.
Speaker 3:Holy smokes, you know what? I saw a video of him the other day. Did you? That kid is huge, he's so big.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God yeah, you know, you know, dallas is um, dallas is is big too, but the uh clothes that dallas was just wearing last year when he was 12 years old, timmy fits into it now you know what I really liked about the video that I saw of timmy, though and it was uh of his brother ricky, surprising him uh, being from back home from the air force uh was how soft he is, how emotionally just kind he is.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. You can totally tell he's a big teddy bear. He's. He's very sensitive, he's very in tuned with it, with the world, and you know he's. He's got a lot of apathy and sympathy and he has a huge soul.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can tell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's, he's, he's an older soul, but yeah, he's, he's, he's a great, great human being. Yeah, yeah, you could. Yeah, I was. You know, I was with Ricky and, you know, erica and the whole family this weekend when we were at a top golf yesterday. Oh, nice.
Speaker 3:How'd you hit him?
Speaker 2:Smoked a few At first, I was just going to be smooth. I'm just, you know, I'm going to take a 7-iron, I'm going to smooth it about 165, just nice little swings. And then you know, we had two bays of people and there were people that were cranking. I was like, ah, fuck it, let me crank here, let me show them my boat. Babe, ruth, there you go, yep, yep. So yeah, put it, put a couple against the net.
Speaker 3:Where's ricky stationed? Is he overseas? He's in south korea south korea.
Speaker 2:Ricky is Timmy and Dallas's brother yeah, older brother, erica's first son and he is in the Air Force stationed in South Korea. He works. I think he's going to do four more years and he works on ejection seats for the pilots.
Speaker 3:Oh, how cool.
Speaker 2:Well, when I say that, when I say that, when you know, when I hear that I say the same thing, but he's like yeah, I didn't think this over. It's like one of the only jobs that you can have. That doesn't translate in the real world, because we're the only ones that have fucking ejection seats. The air force, yeah okay, true yeah, he's like everybody else in the air force. Everything they're doing can transfer over into the real world. They can immediately get a decent paying gig.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he's mechanically inclined now, though, so he could probably parlay that into a construction or a handyman sort of thing.
Speaker 2:No, he's going to be a lawyer. He wants to go to law school. Oh cool, because that's all he's getting. I mean, he's getting so much money for college right now, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, by the time he gets out he should have his bachelor's degree in four years already and he'll just go to law school and it's paid for Jag. He's got so much money from the US military and you know the defense department for that. He can walk into the gift shop and the bookstore before the semester to go. Hey, shakespeare on me.
Speaker 3:Does he ever talk about being over in South Korea with the threat of North Korea?
Speaker 2:I was asking. What I asked him is, Kevin, I don't know if you knew this or not and you probably maybe even were going to cover this today when you briefed me on stuff happening in the world, but I was trading. I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday of last week and I was trading and suddenly everything got really volatile. Huge up and down market, Thank God. Huge up and down market, Thank God. I was just about to take a setup that I probably would have taken a bath on, got hit hard, but I didn't take it because it didn't. A candle didn't close right. I need one of my candles to close right. Okay, and seconds later, and it was due to martial law being declared in South Korea. Yep, yeah, and I was asking him about that. He goes. No, he was already on a plane headed back to the States.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so martial law means that the government can go basically arrest you for pretty much anything, right?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they just, they take over.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I think that the prime minister of South korea actually curtailed that I think everybody else were just like no, you're not declaring, we're not, we're not going that way, kind of like what what would happen here in america?
Speaker 2:yeah, pretty much so if they did martial law, you know you'd have everybody walking on their front lawn with their ar and their shotgun going.
Speaker 3:Nah, I don't think that's gonna happen oh, you know, while we're talking about things that you might not know, that happened. You were. You're pretty accurate to me about some of the things you say, and this I immediately thought of you when the United CEO got gunned down on his way over to an investors meeting. You heard about this right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did hear little inklings. I was hoping you'd fill in the details though. Yeah, I did hear little inklings.
Speaker 3:I was hoping you'd fill in the details though. Yeah, okay, so the United Health CEO was going to an investors meeting and somebody targeted him and shot him three times and killed him, and now the person that did it is on the run. Six days now this person's been on the run, shot him dead near Central Park, and there's cameras all over the place and they can't find this guy. However, they say that they know exactly where he was 10 days before, but they say they don't know who he is. Bullshit. Yeah, exactly, yeah, you totally know who he is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Now reaction has been pretty much 75%, positive 25%. Do you realize you're celebrating the death of a human? That's how much the insurance industry is hated that people are putting smile emojis up about this news story.
Speaker 2:And yeah, you're alluding to the fact that I have made it clear that there's anger out there, right?
Speaker 3:That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 2:And if you're, you know if you are a CEO or you are, you know, a government honcho or something like that. You know I would be treading lightly in regards to your totalitarian fascism, your over profiteering, making money over doing the right things. I mean, I have never and I hope nothing ever does break out. I don't want that to happen. Nobody wants violence. As you've heard in many mafia movies, violence costs money. We don't need that. We don't need that. We don't need violence.
Speaker 2:But you know you're in your little bubbles. You know in your Gulfstream jets and on your yachts and you know in your country clubs and you know flying away whatever islands you fly away to and do whatever you think you want to do at any time, and you think everything's okay. And you live in that bubble when there is a lot of seething anger out there. Kev Again, I hear just regular people soccer moms and people who would usually have nothing to do with even speaking this way that are just like fuck this, fuck that, fuck them, fuck you, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. That's not good for people in power positions.
Speaker 3:No, but I've read a considerable amount of information on this. There are some in law enforcement who say this guy will never be caught. The perpetrator will never be caught, and one of the reasons why is because people will not turn him in. Because if 75% of people are smiling emoji on the social media posts, that means 75% of the people who are commenting would applaud this guy, and so they're pretty certain that they're not going to turn him in.
Speaker 2:I don't think they're going to turn him. I don't think it's a matter of turning him in. I think that you know, somebody knows something I mean Kev. Everything is covered by cameras, particularly in that area that that happened.
Speaker 3:They know they have high definition pictures of his face.
Speaker 2:They know who he is through facial recognition.
Speaker 3:Well, actually, I read a little bit about facial recognition. And if he does not have a uh, if he does not have a criminal record, he would not show up for any uh DNA, he wouldn't show up for any uh fingerprints and his facial recognition wouldn't show up. So then can they use his uh, his identification, his uh driver's license? No, they can't, because that's too grainy of a picture, apparently.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, well, I uh again. I mean he can easily be found. It sounds to me like somebody knows something that is very powerful and doesn't want something to happen as a result of him being arrested.
Speaker 3:Well, they still say they don't have a motive, but three. The three bullets that he used had denied defend, and and something else written on them, and Bill Burr wrapped it up so succinctly the other day when he was on a podcast. He said you know, everybody's talking about this CEO being such a good guy. He's like yeah, yeah, okay, he makes $10 million a year and he's named in a $120 million lawsuit for insider trading, but yeah, he's a great guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, and that's another thing is that all the insider trading thing? There's seething anger about Congress being allowed inside trading and yet the SEC will go out and get regular people for it, the same thing that's done every day in Congress. I mean that's, people are just sick of that dude. They're just people are angry. Well, people are angry, and if the power structure does not cease doing what they're doing, I mean there's just going to be a flashpoint eventually and then it's going to be too late. There's nothing you can do.
Speaker 3:Well, the day before this CEO was gunned down in New York, anthem Blue Cross which is one of the larger not the largest UnitedHealthcare is, but Anthem Blue Cross in three states New York, connecticut and Missouri said that they were going to only cover anesthesia for patients up to a certain amount of time in the operating room. Ok, then the CEO of UnitedHealthcare gets killed, and then the next day they say hey, you know what. We're not going to do that again. I thought the same thing you're thinking, though, tim, that this is a screw you to the patient. I actually read an article on Vox dot com that the patient was not going to get billed. This is because anesthesiologists you know what the average salary of an anesthesiologist is in America.
Speaker 2:What is it? $800,000, $900,000?
Speaker 3:$475,000. How much is it? $475,000. Dang, that's nice, that's sweet For an anesthesiologist. Yeah, and you know why it's that high? Why? Because they overbill. Because they know that a surgery is going to take two hours. But if there's complications they're overbilling by two more hours. So the insurance company has to cover that. Well, the insurance company Anthem Blue Cross was saying you know what? We're only going to bill you for two hours because that's what it's supposed to take. They were not going to pass that on to the insurance or to the consumer. They were going to take that from the anesthesiologist and the doctors. Average salary of a doctor in America is $360,000. Average salary of a doctor in Germany $160,000.
Speaker 2:Again, the greed will kill you. I mean, now people are just like anesthesiologists. Okay, yeah, right. And now, if you're an anesthesiologist, you're looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they were the ones and I should have realized this. They were the ones the most vocal about the Anthem Blue Cross directive, of course, of course, the American Association of Anesthesiologists came out and said what a ridiculous policy.
Speaker 2:Again, how many fucking yachts do you need? Yeah, yeah, it's just the greed I mean. Hey, man, if you look at what's going on in the world right now, you know that old saying that pigs get slaughtered.
Speaker 3:That is correct.
Speaker 2:Be careful. I mean pigs are getting slaughtered. If you are a pig just chowing down at the trough a little bit more than you should be, you're going to have to look over your shoulder, man. I mean, that's the world we're in. Now there's anger. Be you're going to have to look over your shoulder, man. I mean, that's the world we're in.
Speaker 3:now there's anger. You know, if I was the CEO of a healthcare company and I can say this because I know myself I wouldn't accept $10 million salary per year. I just wouldn't. You're making that off of the backs of sick people.
Speaker 2:Exactly, kev. There are certain people that have gigs where they do nothing productive. They're only making money off of the anguish and pain of others. And if you are making an excessive amount of money off the pain and the anguish of others, the universe will have a way of evening shit out, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, while we're on the topic of big salaries, juan Soto signed last night.
Speaker 2:Juan Soto. Who did he sign with?
Speaker 3:New York Mets 15 years 765. Damn dude, that's crazy $765 million over 15 years.
Speaker 2:Wow, okay, let me add that to baseball players to that list.
Speaker 3:No, no, they're not. I don't begrudge him at all. He's providing entertainment. He's not making this off of the backs of sick people, you know. And, seriously, steve Cohen, this off of the backs of sick people, you know. So, and and and seriously, steve Cohen, the owner of the Mets, you know what his net worth is $21 billion. Yeah, this is couch change to him, man.
Speaker 2:And Steve Cohen uh, you know he's. He had some problems himself with insider trading.
Speaker 3:I'm sure, yeah, he was a hedge fund manager.
Speaker 2:They shut his uh other hedge fund down because of violations. Really it was actually encouraging. It was one of the few things where a billionaire was actually called out and actually had to pay a price. How much? Still to this day, I can't remember. They find the shit out of him and they shut down his fund. But still to this day, kev 2008 subprime mortgage, nobody has been prosecuted.
Speaker 3:I know that's a big sticking point with you.
Speaker 2:And that just adds to the anger.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I want to get your opinion on where you stand on this one. So I can't remember how many years ago it was, maybe four or five years ago there was an amusement park ride and a 13-year-old boy who weighs 300 pounds, and that is an important aspect of this story his weight, 300 pounds, at 13 years of age. They took him 20 stories up and he fell out of. Remember that one? Yes, okay, he died, but his family last week was awarded $310 million. Why Last week was awarded $310 million.
Speaker 3:Where? Why Well? Number one, because they say that the operator of the amusement park ride was negligent for allowing him on because it had a under 300 pound weight limit.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. I know I get that they're probably under, they're probably entitled to something, but why is it that fucking much? It's a, it's a 13 year old kid.
Speaker 3:At 300 pounds. At 300 pounds he was already being recruited by several division one football teams and they are taking into consideration that perhaps he could have been a pro and made a lot of money for his family. $310 million is what they've been awarded and that kind of brings me to my be honest for you.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Be honest, be honest.
Speaker 3:Be honest. Would you sacrifice one of your kids for $310?
Speaker 2:million. No Right, absolutely not man Karma.
Speaker 3:It would come back as karma For me. I wouldn't do it because of karma.
Speaker 2:That's why I mean, I live my life by karma. I could, could not. Yeah, I mean no, no, no, I'll make. I'll make my own money. I want to keep my kids.
Speaker 3:They're really cool yeah, I mean, we were talking about timmy earlier. You know, I I couldn't imagine. I mean, I don't have kids, I have a dog. I don't know if I'd sacrifice my dog, and you know what humans are more important than dogs hey, hey, kev, listen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know I have great kids. I'm not sacrificing anything for my kids, but there's a lot of shitty kids out there. I'm just saying I can, you know, quickly say no, I'm not going to do it. But from what I see in the neighborhood and in the world and in social media, there's probably a lot of parents out there that go. Yeah, you know what? Things haven't turned out real good with little Ralphie 310 could go a long way. 310 million without putting up with that little asshole. I mean my son.
Speaker 3:So you're, you're, you're astute and you're great with numbers. Do you really think that family will see 310 million ever?
Speaker 2:No, they'll. It'll be appeals and all that shit yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, that's just the the law. The law firm went too far with it. You know, just say, hey look. And what you can go into and do now is just say, hey look, you write a check for for eight million, the law firm gets five. We'll give the family three million and they can fuck off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, speaking of law firms, tony Busby is under fire. Tony Busby, a very prominent Houston attorney who has 200 people suing P Diddy and he is now named Jay-Z in the in the yeah, saying that Jay-Z and P Diddy back in 2000 something raped a 13 year old and Jay-Z, jay-z is going on the offensive man. Jay-z oh, he's on the attack man. Question-z is always on the attack man questioning everything about Tony Busby, saying you're a Marine, I thought Marines were honorable. You're coming after me for this stuff. He goes. Now I got to explain to my kids the erroneous accusations that you're making against me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's Well yeah, Busby has or, excuse me, Jay-Z has the money to fight back.
Speaker 3:I mean Busby must have some kind of evidence yeah, well did he did, he would have had the money.
Speaker 2:He said that he's burning through that stuff right now no, no, he can't, you can't handle that's that, that's a massive amount. Yeah, you know, you know he, he's he deshaun watson did to the nth power uh- know where it's like hey, man, I make a lot of cake.
Speaker 2:Oh, hey, I made a lot of cake, but I don't have it Kind of like me with my marriages. Yeah, I can't be honest. Yes, have you ever thought about plotting like a major heist or crime just to see if you could pull it off? Oh, all the time. Oh yeah, you're the Kevin. Kevin had the uh serial killer. 50 States scenario. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Kill somebody in each state and you do it in the order in which they were, uh, admitted into the union the union, okay, and you only do it in capital cities, okay, yeah, yeah, I mean, I had it, I've got it all planned. I actually talked to a state trooper in missouri who was undercover vice. He goes, yeah, he goes. If that's the only clues you're going to give, he goes. You could go forever now kevin?
Speaker 2:kevin wouldn't actually do that. Kevin has a conscious, but he has a dark mind that thinks that yeah, oh, oh.
Speaker 3:No, trish and I were just talking about this last night. Yeah, because I'm getting to the runaround on customer from a customer service uh company, you know, and I told her. I said you know what? They need to start paying to the United healthcare CEO situation. I said you know what? I would love to kill this motherfucker, I really would. And you know what, and you know what, I'd be glad to do it because that will be one less customer service asshole that could screw the rest of the population over.
Speaker 2:You're doing the world good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's like, you don't really mean that. I'm like, of course I don't mean it, but you know that thought's there.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean, everybody has dark thoughts. If anybody's listening to this right now and you're like, oh my God, I can't even believe you guys are talking about this Murder and serial killing in 50 states by the order that they joined the union. This is dark stuff, Bullshit. If you don't think the same way sometimes.
Speaker 2:Stephen King is a multimillionaire because he has thoughts like this Kev, one of the funniest bits Bill Byrd did is like, hey, you don't do it, but you never, ever just think, ever, just think. You know you're driving down the road, you see a bunch of people on the side of the road is how you could just change everything just by taking your steering wheel and going. Yeah, I mean, you don't do it, but you know you think it, of course. Yeah, it's like I'm um, I'm pulling out of the grocery store last week and one of the armored cars there got the back hatches open. You can see the money bags right there For about a four-second period of time. That thing was wide open and there's nobody guarding it. Just for about four seconds. They did a walk around. That's four seconds, they did. They did a walk around. That's too long.
Speaker 2:And, kev, I just thought to myself because I'm passing by the thing during that four seconds. It's like. It's like I could have, well, one of my kids I'd probably one of the faster ones, I'd probably get right now. I'd probably go with jonas, maybe even dallas he's picking up some speed, okay and I'd just be like go and then boom, it just happens like that and nobody knows anything. Yeah, and I even found myself. Kevin is so weird. I even found myself, like, looking around. You know, I did a circle around afterwards because I'm just so curious.
Speaker 2:You know that was a blind spot, for cameras too really yeah, man, I don't know what cameras were actually on the armored vehicle, though. Oh yeah, true, there may be some on there, but man, just like that, you know four seconds. Boom, boom, boom. Grab two bags. Each bag quarter million. You have a half a million bucks in four seconds there you go now, of course I would never do that. No, no, I like my freedom, but you know, the mind goes there it does.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it does. I mean one of uh, with the very early stand-up comedy routines that jim carrey ever did. He's talking about different things. You know, like uh, should I go over there and break that guy's arm? Your conscience says no, but you're like uh, maybe I kev I.
Speaker 2:I get that all the time yeah in my head. It's just like where it's like somebody is is being annoying, somebody's being a. You know, you know how it is, kev. Uh, at this point in the world in 2024, december of 2024, I would estimate that approximately 75, maybe 80% of people on the planet over the age of 12 years old think that they are the center of the universe and the rest of us are two-dimensional cardboard cutouts that hit the ground after you know they leave the room.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dude, social media is the cause for that.
Speaker 2:Everybody's a celebrity now. Bad parenting social media, yeah.
Speaker 3:No, everybody thinks they're a celebrity because they have their own YouTube channel, they have their own social media page.
Speaker 2:And you know, kev, I think about it all the time. When I see one of those people being one of those people, I just think, man, how easy would it be for me a bigger dude, yeah, just to walk over real fast, snap the neck and walk away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and do the world a fucking favor. Yeah, In a car it is so bad too, People just don't even care anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know Kev, I know.
Speaker 3:That's one of the reasons why I bought a Corvette so that I won't ram somebody.
Speaker 2:I don't want to hurt my car. My dad used to say this and gotta say I gotta agree with him. If a doctor ever has a chat with me and says, tim, you got only six months to live, I don't. There's nothing we can do bad prognosis. I'm like I'm gonna have fun for six months uh, you've said that to me on numerous occasions I, I, I am gonna do a lot of. I'm going to do the world a lot of good in that six months.
Speaker 3:Now here's the difference between Tim and me. Okay, tim's going to go out and have some fun. I talked to my psychiatrist about this the other day and I said you know what? I'm going out on my own terms. And he's like well, if you ever get terminal and you need assisted suicide, he goes. I'll write that letter. Yeah you said that.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, buddy. You got to like it. You got to like it when they have a sense of humor, man.
Speaker 3:Oh no, he's serious. Yeah, no, he's an advocate for assisted suicide. And he says I will write that letter for you.
Speaker 2:I always you know, kev, I always get a little worried when they're too enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 3:Oh no, he's not enthusiastic, he's just saying that you know, should it ever come to that, he says you've got an advocate in me and he says, if you ever want to go that route in your terminal, then he goes, I will sign that paper for you.
Speaker 2:See, I'm not going to do that, man, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to go even shit out, I'm going to go hunting Kev. I will try to take out as many dicks as I can take out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're easily spotable these days.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, they're all over the place. When the time comes, when I start spitting blood you get to that point when you're in terminal illness then it's just like just give me the minigun, the machine gun, Say hello to my little friend. You are all assholes Wow.
Speaker 3:Two weeks before Christmas, and this is our time.
Speaker 2:Hey, we got one more next week, the one before Christmas. It'll be a lot less dark than this one, all right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's going to be all about the baby Jesus.
Speaker 2:No, it will not. No, because the baby Jesus does not want to be associated with us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's going back and going. Why'd we create them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know Jesus is up there going. Let the little children come to me, Except those assholes.
Speaker 3:But hey, even Jesus has a dark side.
Speaker 2:Definitely, of course he does, everybody does. Everybody's got a little bit of a dark side.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, he was so wrapped up in saving humanity. He really did want to go down there and kick Pontius Pilate's ass. But he was like you know what I got to do this for the good of humanity. Yeah, I mean, he was so wrapped up in saving humanity. He really did want to go down there and kick punches pilots ass.
Speaker 1:But he was like you know what.
Speaker 3:I got to do this for the good of humanity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. He's like hey, man, I walk on water and can turn punches, turn fish into loaves and a huge yeah. I could easily drop down from this shit. You know this cross. Oh yeah, you nailed my hands, man. Oh, I don't give a fuck, I can do it, but I'm not gonna Cause.
Speaker 3:Dad said I can't and there's your religious aspect of the tuttling line show. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, dude let's, let's move on to football here real quick, kev. Um, yeah, I I gotta say this for the first time in its inglorious history, the ncaa did the right thing keeping Keeping Alabama out. Keeping Alabama out. Yeah, smu deserved it. You can't have three losses, especially with two of the losses against Vanderbilt and Oklahoma unranked teams. That's correct, sir, and I just had a funny feeling that God, they're going to. You know, ncaa is more about the brand than the right thing. And they were going to. I thought that they were going to fuck SMU, but they did not.
Speaker 3:Well, we can thank Clemson for that, for pulling the upset in the ACC championship. If Clemson would not have won, then Alabama may have gotten in. They still wouldn't deserve to go in no, they wouldn't have deserved it.
Speaker 2:And I want to say this real quick because I know we have some of our uh alabama listeners that that listen to uh podcast and watch the podcast I. I like the crimson tide, I do, and as somebody that likes the crimson tide, I wouldn't want them to get in because they would be hated more than they've ever ever been hated. Kev they. I don't think Bama would survive going in you know yeah.
Speaker 2:There would be such a backlash against, uh uh, the university of Alabama that they wouldn't want that smoke. So it was actually a good thing for Alabama that you didn't get like snuck in because you have a great brand.
Speaker 3:Well, I was looking at ESPNcom the other day after the playoffs. The 12 teams were announced and I think there was like 10 experts made their predictions and Tim, honestly, like 75% of them, like at three and four, think that the national championship game is going to be Oregon-Notre Dame.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what the best thing about the NIL and the portal era? There is no clear 100% path for any of these teams.
Speaker 3:No, not at all.
Speaker 2:Any of the I mean okay, let's be's be legit. Out of the 12 teams there is a solid, and this is good.
Speaker 3:There's a solid seven, eight that could win it yeah yeah, or you know, you just got to get hot, that's it.
Speaker 2:I mean arizona state's proving that yeah, exactly, and you know, an arizona state is one of the teams that I don't think can do it, because they almost lost to Texas State in San Marcos earlier this year. I mean, you know, audrey, who, as until last week, was athletic assistant, athletic director at Texas State, is just like, oh man, we almost had Arizona State and here they are. Yeah, I don't, I don't even have them as one of those teams. But yeah, you're right, they are getting hot right now, but yeah, I don't see them surviving, even even surviving game one. The winner of Tennessee Georgia, I think, is Tennessee Georgia plays them.
Speaker 3:I think so yeah.
Speaker 2:And either of those teams are going to spank Arizona State.
Speaker 3:Probably so I think. But Kev legit I mean Tennessee can win.
Speaker 2:Those teams are going to spank arizona state, probably so I think. But kev legit. I mean tennessee can win, georgia can win, notre dame can win, uh, you know, obviously. Uh, oregon can win and texas penn state, texas penn state can win. You can even add another one or two, yeah that's what's gonna be fun yeah I love this. This is great, yeah, yeah, it's a long time coming this is how it should be, um, in terms of the nfl. What are you laughing at? The chiefs dude. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3:all my thoughts are that I mean can't, you, can't set up. You saw how they won last night. Right, they won 19 to 17 over the chargers at home and arrowhead and the kicker who's a replacement kicker, who they just picked up this week His fourth field goal to win the game with time expiring hits the upright and doinks in. That's how they won. I you know what it's just, some things are just meant to be, apparently, and them winning is just meant to be I just think that they just don't know how to lose.
Speaker 2:They forgot how to lose.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, obviously they lost the Bills a couple weeks ago, but they're just like hey, man, that's what we do, we just win.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh, and there is something to be said about confidence going into anything.
Speaker 2:It's a manifestation to, to, to be in a situation where you have the as a mindset and not just a few guys, their whole team, their whole coaching staff is like we are never out of it no, never, never out of it. That's how good we is. Like we are never out of it? No, never, never out of it. That's how good we are. Is we are never out of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they just know how to win. Well, a lot of that stems from andy reed being one of the all-time greats, and then patrick mahomes. Just he refuses, man, he just refuses to get beat yeah, they're kind of like um, right now.
Speaker 2:They're kind of like max for stopping oh, from formula one on formula one. He's just like I. I just know how to win. Yeah, I mean, I'm never out of it. I'll figure out a way to win this thing uh-huh you know, is it they're? They're both in that zone. The chiefs and max are both in that zone. It's like I, I, I pretty much can be, you know, middle of the pack. You know, halfway through, I'm still going to figure out a way to win it.
Speaker 3:Well heck, sometimes he'll put himself in the middle of the pack just for the challenge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he probably is. Like I'm bored. Yeah, I make $100 million a year, $200 million a year. I got a hot model, you know, wife. I mean, you know I got to do something. You know to give myself some kind of adversity here, because this is I got to do something. Here's what I'm going to do on this next lap. I'm going to try to do a couple of donuts and then see if I can still win.
Speaker 3:That's right, I'll catch up to him.
Speaker 2:I'm going to stop on lap 14, get out of my car, go shake some hands of some of the spectators and get back in my car and see if I can still win there it is.
Speaker 3:That's where he's at right now yeah, yeah, for sure, uh and then, uh, I just, you know, sometimes the, the nfl defies logic. How can a team like buffalo get beat by a team like the rams? I just, I didn't, I didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 2:Anything can happen.
Speaker 3:And then did you see, you'll love this one. I don't know if you saw this, but you know the the Panthers played the. Who did they play?
Speaker 2:Panthers played Philadelphia.
Speaker 3:Philadelphia yeah, philadelphia went off at plus 800 to one. Yeah, some guy bet $3.1 million that they would win. His payout was only 400,000.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know, I know Well, kev, that's a game that I took because it was minus 14. It was like Philadelphia is going to win by 14 or more and I'm like bullshit. So I took, I took Carolina, you, so I took Carolina. These are professional players, these are NFL players. To think that another team hey, going into the game we're going to win by more than 14 is ridiculous. Always take a big, inflated underdog like that.
Speaker 3:But this guy was just betting it straight up. Oh, yeah, yeah On the money line. Why would you do that Never? Yeah, on the money line.
Speaker 2:Why would you do that Never?
Speaker 3:$3.1 million to win $400,000?.
Speaker 2:Never, never, ever in the NFL you can do that stuff in college ball because you can find, hey, man, this team is going to fucking win, yeah, yeah. All right, they may not cover the spread, but they're going to win the game, but not in the NFL man. I mean, those are professional players and, like you saw in the Buffalo LA Rams, there are no guarantees.
Speaker 3:No none.
Speaker 2:None, I mean, it's the parity that's built into that league, it's just automatic parity. Like you know, a team that's lost three in a row going against a team that's won five in a row, and you think to yourself, oh my God, the team that won five in a row definitely win this game. Well, what you don't factor in is that team that's lost three in a row. They're under fucking pressure and they're angry. The coaching staff is feeling pressures like, hey, man, we got to keep our jobs. And they just they come out steaming and the five game winning streak team, they're getting a little complacent. Oh man, we can't be beat. We kick some ass. And these are professionals where the talent levels are so close that you just you can't. Nothing is an automatic.
Speaker 3:No, not at all.
Speaker 2:Not at all.
Speaker 3:Dallas even proved that a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2:Oh, exactly, I mean, you know Dallas. Tonight I got the Bengals minus 5.5, because I can't, I can't, I just. Joe Burrow is just unbelievable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's got, he's good yeah that dude throws dimes.
Speaker 2:But you know if, if they, if they lose, it doesn't shock me at all. Right, it's a Monday night game. Things are a little different when you're the focus, you're the all the attention's on you. You know that's a big prime time thing, so that adds to the heart's beating a little faster. The eyes are getting a little wider. You know I'm saying yeah, dallas probably mad as hell that they can't win at home and have been blown out left and right. They're a little bit pissed off. I mean, nothing is guaranteed at all. I that being said, cincinnati should kick their ass but you never do.
Speaker 2:No, no, yeah, never do uh, hey, kev, I gotta tell you this story. Yeah, please, I uh, I uh have a new fear. I didn't think you had fears at all, just got unlocked this past weekend. Yeah, I'm usually pretty, you know, steady, even keel. Yeah, um, you know, for the last 15 years I've been, you know, dating and been in relationships with, uh, younger women.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's not been a problem at all. I mean as, and that's not been a problem at all. I mean, as a matter of fact, it's been a lot of fucking fun. It's never been an issue like meeting the parents with the age difference. Okay, I mean, we'll start off Erica. Erica and I nine years difference, that's not that many, it's not that bad Right. You know, ben had no problem with it. There was issue, so that was cool, uh-huh. Then my next one was laura. You know I'm 12 and a half years older than laura.
Speaker 3:Okay, both our parents are dead yeah, so no problem there, very convenient, very very uh, I was engaged to taryn in 2021.
Speaker 2:She she was 23 at the time okay uh, fortunately for me, her dad, whose name was tim, also. Oh uh, they were estranged I see, okay there was.
Speaker 2:There was like a lawsuit going on. Oh wow, yeah, it was a bad thing. So I didn't have any problems there. Uh huh, I've been bonding pretty good with, quote unquote Thanksgiving single mom that I've been seeing Thanksgiving girl. Ok, and she floated this past week, you know, hey, I really like, maybe you know my parents are supposed to come into town for for Christmas. You know my parents are supposed to come into town for for christmas. I think maybe we shouldn't, you know? You know, get together, maybe you can meet him or something like that, and kev the uh record needle scratch him and she could see it too on my face. You know that I was like you know, yeah, yeah, and she goes.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I don't. You know I'm not putting any pressure, uh on a relationship or anything like that, because you know, I've told her that right at like, right off the top, I'm not relationship guy, I'm not, I'm, I'm bad at it. It's cost me enormously, uh, for the past decade and a half of my life. I just I am not looking for that. But you know, she's like, hey, I, I get it, you know, but they're just gonna be in town and you know we live so close by and I'm having such good time with you, you know, and I talk about you, I tell them about you and stuff like that, and I'm like, oh boy, you're really fucking digging your grave here but if they already know about you what's, what's the, what's the fear?
Speaker 2:I, you know it's not a fear, it's just like you know, it's just like a discomfort. Let's say that it's not a fear, it's a discomfort, uh-huh, um, you know. And she says it's okay. She says, hey, my dad is older than you. It's not really, oh, okay, she's 32. Her dad's older than me, yeah, okay. But I'm like that may be cool on paper to you, but I assure you it's not with your dad, you don't think so.
Speaker 2:No, because think of it this way, kevin. This is the absolute truth. When her dad was a senior in high school, I was a sophomore. Yeah, okay, and I guarantee you 100% that that's the thing that's going through his head.
Speaker 3:Probably so. But I mean, look at Belichick he's 77. His girlfriend's 23. Yeah, yeah, Look at Mick Jagger.
Speaker 2:Look at Al Pacino Belichick meeting his girlfriend's parents. Yeah exactly, I got kids younger than you. There are kids older than you. Yeah, yeah, I just I. It just dawned on me when she brought that up that this, that's the first time that this has become a thing so where do we stand?
Speaker 3:uh, are you gonna meet him?
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, she's going to watch this, so I will say, yeah, maybe, yeah. But, kevin, if you know me the way you know me, you know exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 3:I do know exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Jeez, I had to take off to Austin. Hang out with Audrey.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Jonas has an internship up there this summer. We're looking for places for him.
Speaker 2:Colorectal cancer has reared its ugly head, unfortunately. I'm so sorry, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding she's going to watch this. I'm so sorry, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding she's going to watch this. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3:She's got a great sense of humor, you told me.
Speaker 2:She does, She'll laugh at it and then she'll be like so really what time you coming over. Yeah, we're going to make the nog. We're going to have the nog.
Speaker 3:I got a stocking with your name on it already at my place I mean not to get too personal, but how do you get along with the kid?
Speaker 2:oh, he's a good kid, awesome. I mean, he's not total good kid, uh-huh, that's hard, that's, but he's all right. He's all right, little boy, we get along fine so he's not a 310 million dollar kid yeah, exactly, yeah exactly that's a three tenner klein that's so funny. That'll be our code like from now on, going forward yeah, I met a three tenner yeah, got all these non-three-tenners up in my shit. Awesome. All right, kev, let's do a top three.
Speaker 1:Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Klein's top three.
Speaker 2:We'll get a little bit festive, since we haven't been festive at all. And we're in that Christmas season, since we haven't been festive at all, and we're in that christmas season. Kev, uh, top three most memorable christmas gifts you got when you were a kid the gifts, the gifts. When you woke up and saw them and you were like, oh fucking cool man, I'm nailing christmas this year oh, you're gonna love this one.
Speaker 3:Uh, it was. It was a yellow schwinn bike with a black banana seat.
Speaker 2:Oh, I remember those.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, man.
Speaker 2:Love those. Did you have the bent bars, the bent handlebars?
Speaker 3:Oh, like the ape hangers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, oh my God, oh yeah, dude, I remember that exact bike, I mean that exact bike back in like the mid-70s. That was a huge, huge bike bike, that was a big deal yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 3:Uh, I got a coho hockey stick one year and it was the uh, the coho brand uh model that wayne gretzky used, so it had a little wayne gretzky signature on it. I remember that one. That was a big deal for me. And then, um, maybe rock'em, sock'em robots holy shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's, that's one of mine too. Oh, who didn't love that? Let me tell you kids, I know you have all of your off the stratosphere technology now with you know the gaming and all that stuff but in the mid 70s, when an american boy got this lame ass shit right here, rock them, sock them robots, I played that kev for probably 13 hours. Yeah, after I got him I was taking on everybody. I was walking around the house going mom, let's go. Oh, tim, I'm trying to make the christmas meal here. They're no. No, come on, mom, let's go. Oh, tim, I'm trying to make the Christmas meal here. They're not. Come on, come on, no, let's go. Mom, you're a red guy, let's go. Yeah, it was red and blue. Red and blue. I was always blue.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah.
Speaker 2:Even then I said you know, red is means you're losing money. I'm not doing red.
Speaker 3:No, he never liked the color red.
Speaker 2:I'd never do red. If somebody hands me something with red ink on it, I'm like, oh, I can't do it. I can't use a red pen, red marker, none of that shit. But yeah, I was always blue guy and I loved Rock'em, sock'em, robots and I walked around the house and I'm like let's go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a great game and I tried to set it up that within the entire Tuttle family. From that point on, any dispute or disagreement that we had, we just rock them, sock them robots Uh-huh, great way. Tina stomped on the game, though Of course she knew I loved the game. She knew I loved Rock'em Sock'em Robots and, in a fit of rage for, I guess, me walking into her bedroom and touching her albums her Spirits and Volduras, or Bee Gees albums, or, oh wait, andy Gibb, andy Gibb, oh wait, lake Garrett, his album she had to make a beeline to my room and crush my Rock'em Sock'em Robots.
Speaker 3:Tina.
Speaker 2:I've never gotten over that.
Speaker 3:Never has.
Speaker 2:Another one was I don't know if you remember this or not they had the electric vibrate football game.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It was awesome until you actually played it once.
Speaker 3:Was that Klinko?
Speaker 2:Klinko or something I can't remember. Kids again. You guys have all this great technology. A salute to you. We had tried to entertain ourselves with. You would plug in a football field and have these little figurine football players on it and you'd press a button and the thing would start vibrating and moving your players around. It was chaos and sometimes you know you got your runner, goes backwards immediately and runs to the other end zone like fucking runway feldman I remember that game but I remember just being so excited.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh my god, this awesome, I wanted this so bad. And then I played it once I'm like, oh my god, this is so fucking lame. Yeah, but it was also the same Christmas I got the ColecoVision hand game. Remember the football? Yes, that was awesome.
Speaker 3:That's a good one.
Speaker 2:That was a secondary, like a second tier gift, but it ended up being my most attentive gift that year.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, because you could actually control it instead of a vibrating magnet.
Speaker 2:So lame, wasn't that lame? Yeah, I can't believe. They sold millions of those too. Oh yeah, they did, and they disappointed millions of little boys all throughout the nation.
Speaker 3:Did you ever have one of those hockey games where you know you had the levers on the end and they had their little? Yeah, I liked that one.
Speaker 2:That was okay, that was all right Again, you can control it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But not like an electric, vibrating football game Disappointing more American boys than the Catholic priesthood, oh yeah, boys than the Catholic priesthood. Don't come at me. You know it's true.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:Catholic church. Don't fuck with me, you know, it's true. I can't believe anybody goes to a Catholic church these days after that shit, I still can't believe it.
Speaker 3:But wait a minute, didn't you just go to confession? Yes, oh wow. I can't wait to hear this. But wait a minute, didn't you just go to confession? Yes, oh wow, I can't wait to hear this. Bless me, father, for I have spent. It's been eight decades since I last visited.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll, we'll cover that. We don't. We don't have enough time. I got to jump here in a little bit. Okay, I went to the confession for the first time since the Reagan administration and I was surprised after the fact of how open I was. And you're going to get all those details.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah well, confession usually is just between you and the priest. You're going to actually reveal Some of it.
Speaker 2:Wow, okay, not all of it, that'd be fucking stupid. Yeah, because yeah, we can't absolve you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well doesn't. We can't absolve you.
Speaker 2:Doesn't? Yeah Well, doesn't that like? Oh wait, I was thinking for a second that if you tell people about what you confessed with, you know you don't get your sins washed away. But no, that's if you tell people what your wish is after you blow out your birthday candle, that yeah, oh, you can't tell me what you confess to because now you won't be absolved. No, I will. We'll hit that next week, kev. Great, I promise. But what was I saying? I was going somewhere in my brain and I don't even know. Oh, I'm still on the top three.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you're still on the top three.
Speaker 2:Kev, I don't know if you remember this or not the green machine oh yes, it was the answer to the big wheel yeah, it was the next step up for the big wheel. Once you grew out of the big wheel when you were a kid, you went into the green machine yeah, this thing was amazing and that thing was awesome.
Speaker 2:It was a more levered gear steering thing. You got more speed and Kev. This was a time when we had some really cool hills in the neighborhood where you would just get to terminal speed and you pray to fucking God there's no car coming in the other way.
Speaker 3:We lost more kids that way. But didn't your green machine meet a tragic demise what did you know about my green machine?
Speaker 2:what did I tell you?
Speaker 3:at the hands of one, tina tuttle yes, I've got.
Speaker 2:I had actually forgotten all about that. I was was just excited about getting a Christmas morning, but yes. Yes, indeed, there's a lot of trauma that Tina caused in my childhood and, frankly, I'm very surprised I'm able to speak with her. But time does heal all wounds. Yes, it does, time does heal, but you don't forget.
Speaker 3:No, no, no no.
Speaker 2:I've forgiven, but I haven't forgotten. Rock them, sock them, robots. Rest in peace, green machine. Rest in peace. And the worst was the kick in the head that she gave me when I was stuffing Sunday newspaper. Inserts into the outer part of this Sunday newspaper the old kick in the head. Kick in the head. Yeah Again, kev, if Tina ever thought that you were in her room, there was no stop here. She was a bull in the china shop coming at you and you would just, you know, hope that you, uh, you would survive the attack. That's I just want. I know it's coming, she's, she's. She's charging me like a bull right now. I know it's coming and I'm gonna take a beating. And you know, as we heard from henry hill and goodf fellas, every so often you take a beat.
Speaker 3:Yeah Right, you just hope you live to tell about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just I want to be able to tell the story about this and use it in my comedy in the future. Just let me live, Tina. Just let me live.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who cares? They're just going to cost me thousands of dollars in therapy. Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, kev. This has been a fantastic episode.
Speaker 3:Man, it's gone by so fast.
Speaker 2:It goes by so, so quickly. I know this is a little bit lighter time-wise, but I have something that I have to get going and somebody's going to be here to do a little maintenance at my place.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, we've been at it almost an hour.
Speaker 2:Well, good, okay, well, this is well. You did get your full value then. So if you have any complaints whatsoever, again, keep in mind, with the Tuttle Kline podcast, we have this guarantee a hundred percent money back guarantee any money you've ever put in to listen to our podcast. If you're not fully satisfied, you will get every penny back.
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Speaker 3:That is correct, sir. I just it's unbelievably busy time of year right now for me. If you want to see what I've been up to, go follow the Drury University Panthers hockey team on Instagram. I made videos of every player on both the D1 and D3 team with their Christmas greetings, and, man, it turned out really good, but it took a little bit of time.
Speaker 2:I get it. Plus Snowdrop Foundation. You've got some holiday stuff coming up. You do it every single year For people who are interested and want to help out. Obviously, kids with cancer come on. I mean, if you're given to any charity, it's got to be kids with cancer, right? What is the festivities that Snowdrop Foundation has going on right now?
Speaker 3:We can go to snowdropfoundationorg and you can donate that way, or you can just see what we got going on. But we've got our annual uh 55 hour race uh happening on september the 30th, uh going to january 1st in the mid-afternoon uh, so I'll be in town, buddy, uh, hopefully, uh, we'll be able to see each other yeah, yeah, and also keep in mind, if you see kevin klein at that 55.
Speaker 2:Uh know that his corvette is being taken care of by me.
Speaker 3:Of course it is. I'll be babysitting the Corvette. Yeah, he's changed his name to Tim.
Speaker 1:Verstappen. That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode and you can get more client on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle and Klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
