Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
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Ep #41: Trust Us, This Is A Funny Episode
How did a simple melody about a fast-food burger become etched in our brains forever? Join us on a nostalgic voyage as we unravel the mystery behind catchy jingles and their uncanny ability to stick with us through the years. The conversation takes a tasty turn with a look at McDonald's latest menu changes in response to global economic shifts. We even dish on their intriguing new culinary creation: the chicken sandwich topped with Big Mac sauce. With equal parts humor and insight, we explore how these changes impact consumers and shareholders alike, blending nostalgia with current events and market dynamics.
Shifting gears to the land Down Under, we tackle a hot-button issue: Australia's controversial bill to ban social media for anyone 16 years or younger. Is this a protective measure or a step towards government overreach? We dig into the debate, questioning enforcement and the motivations behind this proposed legislation.
We find out why Kline, a St. Louis kid, asked for a Washington Redskins robe when he was growing up and we find out how Tuttle dealt with his first rush of blood to the head in his 7th grade summer.
You get to play the game, Is It Tuttle, Or Chris Cornell?
To cap it all off, we lighten the mood with a nod to Saquon Barkley's thrilling performance against the Rams, ensuring our episode is a lively mix of humor, nostalgia, and thought-provoking commentary.
welcome to the Tuttle and Klein show if you want tickets, listen to Tuttle and Klein. Dude, I was just listening to my sacrifice. Uh, yeah, that's uh creed, yeah, and I still have. Every single time I hear that song I cannot think of uh, the real song. I think of that parody song from about 20, what, 22 years, 21 years ago in birmingham yeah, when we were giving away tickets we were giving away creed tickets and a local, uh, lead singer of a band, I think his name is drew.
Speaker 2:I could be wrong, I forget his name, but he, he sang, uh, you know, an intro when we were giving away the tickets to my sacrifice. That is just one of those earworms in my head that I will never, ever be able to get rid of, absolutely. Yeah, like, like I could go into full dementia because I guess that's a thing in my family and when I'm in my 80s, if I make it to my 80s and I will forget, like, like my kids' names. But I will remember. If you want tickets, listen to Tuttle and Clive.
Speaker 3:Well, you know that's one way that teachers instruct students to remember stuff is to put it to music.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Did you ever use that as like a trick? Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, did you ever use that as like a trick?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it reminds me of that episode of Cheers when Coach is trying to help Woody with his geography Albania, albania, you border on the Adriatic we learn our facts by associating countries with music.
Speaker 2:Albania Albania, you border on the Adriatic. It's stuck in your head, just like some of the commercials when we were kids oh yeah, some of the uh the the commercials when we were kids, oh yeah, you know I it's so insane and silly because this is like from 40, 45 years ago, but I will always know that a big mac has two all beef, patty, special sauce, lettuce cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun two all beef patty special sauce, lettuce cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed.
Speaker 3:That's the first one that came to my mind too. You know what I'm saying. I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 2:So and I like when you know I don't do it much, but sometimes the kids and you know they like the Mickey D's and I got to tell you I still get a hankering for a Big Mac every so often.
Speaker 3:Dude, did you see that? They were in the news just this past week? Because they are completely revamping their dollar menu. It's dollar menu, it ain't dollar anymore. They're going to call it McValue, if I read correctly their profits are down 40%.
Speaker 3:Really, yeah, 40%. They were doing that $5 meal where you get a sandwich, chicken nuggets, small fry and a small drink for five dollars. They were supposed to be temporary. It took off so much that they're going to keep that. And now they're going to offer buy one, get one for a dollar. Their CEO basically said we're not going to define value for the customer. The customer is going to define value for us, so they're going to give you options.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's such a huge brand you can't really fuck it up. You just got to figure out a way to you know, make it right.
Speaker 3:Well, I was reading today because of President-elect Trump's treasury secretary pick that the dollar has fallen because of that and I wanted to see if that was a good thing. And it's a great thing for companies because now they'll make more money off of the foreign markets, and the two examples that they use for American companies that make the most money off of foreign profit is Procter Gamble and McDonald's and McDonald's the two most globally recognized companies in American franchises.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the dollar being devalued has ups and downs. You don't want to be devalued too much. The last thing we want is it for not to be the international standard Right. When that happens, we become Venezuela overnight, and we don't want that. But there is also benefits, like that of the dollar being devalued.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it'll benefit shareholders. Won't necessarily benefit the consumer so much, especially if you want to travel abroad, but if you're in the stock market you're doing good. I mean, that's why this stock market went up 300 points already today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, got a little piece of that.
Speaker 3:I'm sure you did, sir.
Speaker 2:I thought about you immediately when I read that yeah, I just well, I see that mine was 27 seconds though 27 seconds and your workday's done done. Well, it took me about 45 minutes to get it to find it okay, still under an hour and your workday's done.
Speaker 3:It's a beautiful thing. I'm sure it is.
Speaker 2:But yeah, when I go into McDonald's, kevin, I like to look back there while they're making Big Macs and I just say to myself two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce cheese pickles on a sesame seed bun.
Speaker 3:Mmm, isn't that special sauce? Just Thousand Island dressing with a tad of horseradish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, something like that. Yeah, and you know they're doing it on the chicken sandwich. Now they got the Big Mac sauce on the chicken sandwich.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a Big Mac made with two chicken patties.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which looks like a bit much, but it looks good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, until you try it.
Speaker 2:It looks so good.
Speaker 3:know too, I'm not leaving any on the plate, man, I'm gonna eat both of those chicken dude, you realize, you realize that they have a corporate chef that you know, experiments and concocts these things, and then they try it on test markets, right, yeah, yeah, actually somebody is, actually somebody has called the McDonald's corporate chef. That's crazy, right? What's your job? Oh, I invent shit for McDonald's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but do you think, like you know, because you know, when you talk about a chef, that's like an artist, that's, like you know, kind of a hoity toity gig, do you think?
Speaker 3:when he tells this fellow chef graduates what he does, he's just like yeah, I mean, is he the c student? Well, he might have been the c student, but he's, I'm sure he maybe says you know what? Yeah, I work for mcdonald's as a chef. But guess what?
Speaker 2:here's my paycheck I mean, does he have to wear a name tag like everybody else at mcdonald's?
Speaker 2:that would be funny, yeah uh, hey, hey, kev, I got to thinking Last week I was watching this documentary about how it was a big, big thing about 20 years ago, about the moon landing being a hoax uh, being a hoax. And you know a lot of scientists saying it's virtually impossible, especially on the first try to do what they did July 20th 1969 with Neil Armstrong and all that. Buzz Aldrin, right, the, the, you know, you, you, you. You got to thread so many needles to make that happen. They likened it to something like you know a quarterback no matter how good you are, a quarterback, having, you know, 285 completions in a row without any incompletions.
Speaker 3:That would be a lot.
Speaker 2:The probabilities just aren't there. You, you know scientifically, is what they're saying yeah and you know they're, they're they.
Speaker 2:They've accused, uh, you know, nasa of uh hiring stanley kubrick. A lot of people say it's stanley kubrick who you know directed that scene, who uh put together that scene in a back lot somewhere in holly, wow, yeah, so you know, got into the details about that. You know they wanted to keep Kennedy's promise. Remember Kennedy when he was elected president? Yeah, I remember In 1961, he had that speech by the end of this decade we want to be on the moon. And you know, here it is. You know it's 1969 flips over and they still haven't made it to the moon yet. And NASA, who you know wants to hit that target and also maintain their budget.
Speaker 2:OK yeah, yeah, they want to. You know they don't, they don't if they don't make it to. They thought to themselves if they didn't make it to the moon by when Kennedy said by the end of the decade that maybe there'd be questions in Congress of whether this is worth it.
Speaker 3:Well, and I think we also wanted to continue to be the leader in space exploration and space technology. We wanted to beat the Russians.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know the Russian and they're saying about that is the Russians realized you know it was fucking lame anyway going to the moon. Why, you know what I about? That is the russians realized you know it was fucking lame anyway going to the moon. Why, you know, I'm saying okay, yeah, yeah. And that got me thinking. That whole thing got me thinking is, you know, 60 years ago, 50, 60 years, we were obsessed with going to the moon. And then you know, 10 years after that, uh, you know, and billions and billions of dollars later, like 30 billion it just stopped. And I was just like I wonder why, you know, is it? And maybe the Russians had something? Maybe it was just such a fucking boring place.
Speaker 3:I can't imagine that it will be a riveting. It's not like Vegas, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, did you ever notice that, like no astronaut ever returned, like once they went there, once it was like, oh yeah, okay, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, you do know that Buzz Aldrin, about a year and a half ago, said that it was a fake. Yeah, I heard about that. They shut him up fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they just said old man, dementia, crazy guy. But you know it, it, it, it. And you just think, hey, man, if that was such a big deal that we had, you know what was it? Well, you know why. Why the moon, you? Know, because you can say you're the first to do it yeah, but you know it just, it's just like a big rock well, and now?
Speaker 3:now they want to do it because they want to use it as a launching pad to get to Mars. That's what Musk wants to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now we have billionaires going to war with each other to see who could be first. This will be interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, my thought process is I will never know if it was real or not, but I love the myth, you know.
Speaker 2:I love the intrigue about what you know. To me it's like you know it's just such a do you think there's like an astronaut Yelp. You know that the moon got rated as a horrible fucking vacation place. Yeah.
Speaker 3:No customer service, no no internet.
Speaker 2:Long trip, no air. You got a shit in the bag. You get there. You can't find your fucking golf ball, because it's the same color as the terrain. There are no hot chicks whatsoever None Zero. Your fucking golf ball, because it's the same color as the terrain. There are no hot chicks whatsoever None Zero. I mean, I thought I was big shit being this astronaut. I go, there's no chicks.
Speaker 3:None, what am I?
Speaker 2:doing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:I heard they're hot as hell on Venus. Why aren't we going there? Oh, that's funny hey, kevin, I gotta tell you this, um, because it was such a shocker to me. It was just so strange, and let me know if it's just me, if I'm just an asshole or not okay um, I'm in the Galleria last week and I rarely travel anywhere outside of this. You know western suburb bubble.
Speaker 3:Yeah, ok, for those of you that are not from Houston, the Galleria is the ritzy kind of high end mall that's right there in the kind of financial district.
Speaker 2:It's where we, you and I, used to travel every single day, five days a week for nearly two decades.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because that's where the radio station is. But I'm in there for a doctor's appointment and I'm just sitting there minding my own business in the waiting room and suddenly, out of the corner of my eye, I see this guy. He's wearing a full suit and he's riding a skateboard. And I was just like that is the weirdest thing, man, and I couldn't get it out of my head. I'm like how can you be grown man in a suit, riding a skateboard?
Speaker 3:He's an environmentalist.
Speaker 2:I, it was just so. I mean I, I just felt for the guy, because I was just like if this guy's married, his wife is definitely cheating on him. You know, you can't be in a suit on a skateboard guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's way too beta soy boy of a move, isn't it?
Speaker 3:And if you fall and you put a hole in your suit, now you're out of suit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just looking at it, and we used to do the thing called man card. That'd be a man card violation, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3:I believe it would be a man card violation.
Speaker 2:I mean Kev seriously. Imagine if your own father left the house with a suit and a skateboard. Every single day Was he wearing the helmet too he had the helmet dude.
Speaker 3:Oh, you can't. It was awful. I can't do it.
Speaker 2:You know what you would say to your mom if you saw your dad doing that? You'd be like hey, mom dad's completely out of the picture now. Just forget about him. I know I'm only nine years old, but I'll be the man of the house from now on. I'll take care of things. Okay, for sure, because you know that would. That would make your mom just shudder, just like, oh man, oh, absolutely it.
Speaker 3:Wearing the gloves and the elbow pads. Yeah, exactly, can't do that, not in a suit, not in a suit.
Speaker 2:Hey, kev, I, I, I love this, this new feature that we're doing. It really, I mean, and it's really helped me in terms of Going off the grid because I know you'll just brief me the next Monday. Yeah, for those unaware, I don't have social media anymore, pretty much you know. I just I post a little clip of you know what you can see or hear on this podcast, on the Tuttle Cline Instagram, which you should all be following, and also on the Tuttle Cline Facebook page. But since I'm completely off the grid now and I just don't care about news, social media, I'm not reading any of it. Kline tells me the things that have happened over the past week that I may need or want to know. So what has happened?
Speaker 3:Well, I kind of told you about the McDonald's thing and then I told you about the Treasury Secretary pick. This was buried in. I know why it was buried in America, because it's not happening here, but it could have worldwide ramifications. A massive ruling is slated for this week in Australia. They are voting in Australia not, this is legislature to make it illegal for anybody 16 years of age or under to have social media accounts. Wow, their legislation is voting on that this week.
Speaker 2:OK, I, I like the idea, but that should be for the parents. The government just stay the fuck out.
Speaker 3:There you go, buddy. I thought it would bring up a kind of a kind of a discussion, but I agree, I agree that again, it's an overreach.
Speaker 2:It's none of your fucking business. Stay out of the family situation, let parents make those decisions.
Speaker 3:Well, they're saying it's going to curtail online bullying and how are they going to enforce it. Here's how they're going to enforce it the companies that allow under 16 year olds they're going to fine them up to 32 million US dollars per incident.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to me it's because they want, know, be able to brainwash kids and they don't want kids getting the truth that they can get from social media. That's all that is okay. It's a control situation. It's an overreach. It's ridiculous. And obviously australia didn't see uh, the results of uh november 5th, which was had. People just want to be left alone. People want to be left alone or they're going to start killing. They really are. I feel that way. There's just so much anger out there. I hope it doesn't happen. I hope so too. But control freak yeah, I know man. I know mama didn't hug you. I know maybe you had an uncle try to fiddle with your giblets or something like that. I get it, okay, but you need to quit being a control freak and trying to rule over people because you are putting yourself in jeopardy. Okay, back the fuck off. That is the biggest message, loud and clear, that was sent a month ago.
Speaker 3:So you just talked about a back. The fuck off. Um. Saquon Barkley pretty much made the Rams defense do that. Uh, on Sunday night football, did you watch that?
Speaker 2:I did not. I did not watch uh uh last night. I did watch uh some football yesterday, but I didn't see that game.
Speaker 3:Did you see what he did? No, what'd he do Saquon Barkley? Did you see what he did? No, what did he do Saquon Barkley? 255 rushing yards, 309 yards from scrimmage last night, 270-plus touchdown runs Unbelievable. They couldn't tackle him.
Speaker 2:They couldn't tackle him. That's crazy. Is it because they were bad or is it because he's that good?
Speaker 3:It's because two things he's that good and his O-line for the Eagles just dominated.
Speaker 2:Crazy, crazy and Kev you know, since we're talking about football too again Kansas City Chiefs there is not one human being in the stands in Carolina. When Carolina took the lead with like a minute something left, that thought that oh, we got this. Not one person. Nope, not one person. And there's not one person on the Kansas City sideline. There's not one person in the audience watching on TV. That just doesn't absolutely positively know that if you give Patrick Mahomes that much time left, he's going to figure out a way to make a couple plays, put his best field goal kicker in the NFL in position to win the game.
Speaker 3:Explain this to me, because you follow it. How can a team as absolutely horrendous as the Cowboys go on the road and beat a team that, statistically, is three times better than them in the Washington Commanders? How can the Texans lose at home to a team like the Tennessee Titans? It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:Well, the league office said our most valuable brand is in trouble. Let's write this script. Thank you, the five in a row. The five in a row is not, you know, losses is not going to do for our most valuable brand. We got to get them a W.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:No, in all seriousness, kev, yeah, I, as somebody you know, I do a little bit of, you know, I guess, as a hobby, because I live in Texas and I can't bet on sports I do some handicapping and one of the handicapping tenants is a contrarian move and I want you to think about this and tell me if you can see it. When you play a home game, you got to worry about tickets. You're still at home and you know you're exposed to the home situation. If things aren't going well, you know you're, that's on your mind as you make your way to the stadium that morning of the game or whatever. But when you're on a road, you don't have to worry about getting family and friends tickets. You know it's a road game and you're also isolated in the hotel room focusing on one thing and one thing only getting the victory. I honestly think that the cheering of the fans is not as big of a deal as being able to focus, laser focus like that. Does that sound crazy?
Speaker 3:No, I mean it kind of makes sense. But what about the fact that you're sleeping in your own bed and you're still on your own schedule? You know you don't have to deal with a flight, you don't have to deal with a hotel check-in, all that kind of stuff? I mean I get it that, yeah, home field advantage probably isn't as big of a deal as they want you to believe.
Speaker 2:I think for professionals and we've seen this with the astros the last couple years they've been better on the road than at home. Yeah, um, with professionals it doesn't matter as much. Uh, when the college on the college scene, home field is much, much bigger of an advantage it. It really is.
Speaker 2:Especially now that you have conferences so spread out that you've got somebody that's got to travel from one side of the country to the other side of the country and oh, by the way, 36 hours later play a game when you're still slightly jet lagged.
Speaker 3:Did you speaking of the college game? Did you see the BYU Arizona State game?
Speaker 2:I did not see the game. What happened?
Speaker 3:Okay. So they're playing at Arizona State and there's six seconds on the clock. Asu quarterback goes back, throws an incomplete pass, leaving one second on the clock. The fans rushed the field. Oh, Absolutely pandemonium on the field. It took them 18 minutes to clear the field so that BYU could do a Hail Mary, and their quarterback threw it short and they caught the ball and were tackled on the two-yard line.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy, unbelievable. I love that.
Speaker 3:It was crazy.
Speaker 2:I know Arizona State won. I did not know it was that kind of drama at the end of the game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, big-time drama 18 minutes to clear the field.
Speaker 2:And that was at Arizona State.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they were taking the goalpost down. By the way, as they were rushing the field, they had to put the goalpost back up.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, it was nuts. Well knowing Arizona State Kev, a lot of that just could have been drunkenness.
Speaker 3:It probably was.
Speaker 2:They'd look up in the scoreboard. I think that's three zeros. I don't know. Phil, let's go For sure. Yeah, yeah, because that's a big party school man.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's a massive party school. Yeah, that's why I didn't go there.
Speaker 2:That's one of those, when you know those kids graduate with an Arizona State degree and they go in for their first job interview hey, I got a bachelor's degree at Arizona State and the job interview person goes yeah, you had fun, didn't you?
Speaker 3:Most definitely.
Speaker 2:I do a lot of thinking, as you know, when I'm doing cardio and when I get caught in these own self rabbit holes. I really go down these and do a lot of thinking and I think that I have discovered the biggest problem with society today the biggest, single, biggest problem.
Speaker 3:Yep, what is it?
Speaker 2:We're too soft, oh okay, and the reason we're too soft Kev is nobody gets hit by anybody anymore Like punched yes, okay. All we do now is we just, you know, we fire off strong worded emails, we make social media posts in all caps and that's it. Yeah, the idiots on planet Earth who, back when we were young, used to get their ass beat. They are no longer regulated.
Speaker 3:It's one of my favorite Bill Burr bits that he does, where you can't punch women, but women you should punch each other once in a while, just to feel it. Just to feel it, you know, I feel bad for women that you never get to feel that you guys should do it to each other. You know, just every once in a while Just haul off and just blast one of your friends in the face. You know it's good for you, and then you won't be such an asshole.
Speaker 2:Exactly, Exactly. But because you know these idiots, they haven't been regulated. The rest of us, who are not idiots, we just have to like suffer them in silence.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because nobody. Nobody can just hey, man, you had this coming dude, nobody can just pop you anymore.
Speaker 3:That's the thing no consequences.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, you add that phenomenon, plus the fact that you know helmets and seatbelts Became completely necessary. This no longer allows Darwin to do his job.
Speaker 3:Very true, very true. Yeah, am I right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Darwin Awards have just gone downhill we have 80% more idiots than necessary because of all the safety measures that we have taken, yeah, Whereas a lot of these were hey man darwin just doing his thing charles darwin, the uh theory of evolution.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, and?
Speaker 2:and if you don't evolve smartly, you're going to make bad decisions and end up hurting yourself or killing yourself exactly, and because there's no weeding out, I mean, for centuries they would be weeded out, kev, of course I would, okay, and we wouldn't have to worry about them, we wouldn't have to suffer them in silence. But the worst thing about this is these idiots who should have been weeded out via their own stupidity but now are saved. Due to safety reasons. They are now procreating. Oh yeah, save. Due to safety reasons, they are now procreating. Oh yeah, yeah, they are fucking other idiots and making little idiots.
Speaker 3:It's a double the idiot yeah.
Speaker 2:So now we are starting to really really mushroom and go parabolic in regards to the numbers of idiots.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and you said it at the beginning we're getting soft. That's what the Giants said about their their performance yesterday. We're just a soft team. It is, it's softness is uh, it's contagious oh it's, it's a disease.
Speaker 2:yeah, it's a disease. That that's why you like on every team you were just talking about football right there every team has to have two or three guys that just have the unbelievable motor and are laying it out on every play. Yeah, otherwise, if you don't have those guys on each side of the ball, you've got to have two or three guys that are just giving, like spilling their guts out, giving everything they have, even to the detriment of their own body and health, in order to play their best, because then that becomes okay. Look at Dave right there. I mean, he's spilling his guts out over here. I better kick up my game a little bit, exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know this is an interesting thing that I just read the other day we're getting too soft. You're talking about having a motor that goes, you know, 100 miles per hour during the game. Did you realize that we are now 75 percent of Americans are considered obese. Is it 75? Three out of every four people in America are considered obese.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing, though You've got to be careful with with that number, because I'm not exactly sure it's the best measure.
Speaker 3:Oh, if you're talking body mass index, it's not, it's a bullshit measure.
Speaker 2:Okay, because you know, kev, I weigh about 192 pounds now, yeah, at my apex, when I was eating all of Erica's delicious food and her dad, ben's delicious food, I hit 242 back in like 2015, 2016. Wow, so I'm about 50 pounds less than I was at my apex, and when I was at that apex, I was considered obese by all those numbers.
Speaker 3:Well, when Ronnie Coleman.
Speaker 2:If you ever looked at me, would I qualify as obese.
Speaker 3:No, but what I was getting ready to say was Ronnie Coleman. When he won seven consecutive Mr Olympias, by the body mass index graphic he would have been considered obese. Mr Olympia is not obese, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there are guys in pro sports that can run four or five 40s. That would be considered obese by that standard. Yeah, but I I still understand what you're talking about. It it seems that that we are bigger and it is ridiculous Like just go and walking around in a very public place like a mall or something like that. I always note I was like God man, what is that? Do people just not give a fuck anymore? What is that? Do people just not give a fuck anymore?
Speaker 3:No, no, they won't find the time to do any exercising. I mean, it's very convenient to eat shit. You know it is. We just talked about McDonald's earlier. You know it's very convenient to go in and pay $1.25 for a hamburger and take all of your caloric intake for the day right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all you should do all day, then if I mean, if you're gonna eat, uh, like a combo meal at mcdonald's, that is what you should be eating all day, that's it, you get one meal one meal, you know you're right, or?
Speaker 2:else go exercise exactly, and that's the thing that people don't understand. You can pretty much eat anything you want if you burn. Yeah, like I, if I see like the opportunity to grab some donuts, you know, either here at the clubhouse or, you know, going out of church. Yesterday they had, they had some donuts, yeah, and I was like I'm grabbing that was my hand. Sure, I grabbed two of them. Nice, because I know I, I Kev, I fast walk at least 12 to 13,000 steps a day. That's perfect, so I can pretty much eat anything that I want to eat.
Speaker 3:You've got the physical softness that we're talking about. You've got the mental softness that we started with on this conversation. I mean, yeah, just harden up a little bit, that's all. I got to do harden up a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can have that McDonald's combo meal and go for a fucking walk. Yeah, real easy. There's no reason like I'm at an Astros game or something like that and I'm walking past thousands of people and I can't help but think to my head more than half of these people will not have a long, satisfying life because of what they're doing right now to themselves.
Speaker 3:Oh, you know the thing that really disgusts me and I sometimes don't go to the grocery store because of this the person that's riding around in the little cart with the basket on the front, you know, and guess where they're going? To the bakery. Yes, Fuck, yes, fuck you.
Speaker 2:They got, they have a clearance on the entomans, yes, and they'll just sit there and they'll shovel things into their little basket from that entomans clearance, you know, three day hold yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about and you'll just look at them with kind of seething a little bit and going you're the fucking reason all our health costs, hair care costs are so high I do say that, do you?
Speaker 2:say that oh my god, I'm a judgmental prick when it comes to that my premiums would be a one-third of what they are if you would just stop shoveling that shit in your mouth, you fucking job of the hut.
Speaker 3:We are not making friends today, but you know what it's true.
Speaker 2:Somebody's got to say it, man, I know right. So, and you know what, if you're the fucking rolling job on the hut that listens to this podcast and we lose, you, fuck, we don't care. You'll be dead in three weeks anyway. Oh wow, god man, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Let's break this up right now with a top three just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Klein's top three. Visual of Jabba the Hutt.
Speaker 3:And for those of you that used to listen to us on 93Q, this is what's in our head while we're giving you the family-friendly stuff.
Speaker 2:I'm wondering if Trish knows how to use that AI. Now Take a picture of Jabba the Hutt, put it in one of those grocery jars and post that right here. Trish, if you can do that, that'd be great. Here it is.
Speaker 3:Keep shoveling, Jabba.
Speaker 2:Me and Norman from there. Jabba Me and Norman from there Jabba Awesome. Okay, alright, top three best memories from your childhood. Top three best memories from your childhood and Kev, they should like jump out, like you know, because you have minimal memories now of your childhood, right? So whatever you do remember should like stick out.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean the first two that came to mind. I mean immediately, and I don't know why this always comes to my head, but there was a Christmas that we had and I got a Washington Redskins terrycloth robe. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have to know how does a kid from St Louis, missouri, when the Rams are playing, get a Washington Redskins rope?
Speaker 3:The Cardinals were still playing there then.
Speaker 2:Oh, was it the Cardinals. It was the.
Speaker 3:Cardinals were still playing there. See, the Cardinals were originally from St Louis before the Bidwells moved them to Arizona.
Speaker 2:With Jim Hart as quarterback.
Speaker 3:That's right, mel Gray, jim Hart, yeah, very, very cool.
Speaker 2:Conrad Dob back, that's right mel gray jim hart yeah, very, very cool. Uh, conrad dobler, one of my favorite players ever big time dan deardorff but didn't he?
Speaker 3:play for them. He did, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, terry metcalf was yeah, was he a great running back man yeah yeah, these are legends of the game and we never won a freaking game, man. They sucked it when it. When I was growing up, man, the Cardinals were terrible.
Speaker 2:That's why Conrad Dobler was so angry. Right, he's like I fucking crush my soul every weekend and we lose.
Speaker 3:Okay. So you want to know, I know you want to know. How does the St Louis boy like the Washington Redskins? It wasn't so much that I was a Redskin fan, I wanted the robe because I wanted to turn it inside out and act like I was Hong Kong Phooey.
Speaker 2:He had the red robe, just like the Redskins, the maroonish robe, exactly. Hong Kong Phooey, quicker than the human eye, hong Kong Phooey. Oh my God, kev you know who voiced that? Scatman Crothers. Scatman Crothers.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:What a great memory. That is man. Yeah, for those of you who aren't aware, the movie the Shining the black dude, scatman Crothers, was the voice of Hong Kong phooey. I love that man Boy. You just had like a bunch of memories pour in from the obscure Saturday morning cartoons, like I just remember Grape Ape.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And Speed Buggy, yep, yep, wow, great shit, man. All right, that's cool, that's a good memory.
Speaker 3:Second one that I remember immediately just jumped right into my head. We were driving as a family of a unit of five my brother, my sister and me and my mom and dad and brother, sister and I are in the back seat and for some strange reason, my mom put the cake that she had baked for the picnic we were going to on the backseat floor instead of like putting it in the trunk or something, and my sister put her foot in it. My dad was so pissed and we started calling it shoot cake from there on out.
Speaker 2:Did you have the cake away? Oh yeah, they threw the cake away. No, you can eat around it, you can eat around the sides. She put her whole fucking foot in it. Oh okay, all right.
Speaker 3:So yeah, okay it was ruined bro does she remember that?
Speaker 2:does she remember that?
Speaker 3:oh, the whole family remembers it. Shoe cake, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:She was, like she must have, maybe like four or five years old, Okay, she doesn't remember then does she. I think she does. Oh, yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 2:So that's one of her early memories.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah. Was it a store-bought cake or did your mom make it? No, she made it. Being a midwestern boy yourself, timmy, you probably remember these. Or you bake the the sheet cake and then you poke holes in it with your uh toothpick and you pour jello over it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that was a jello cake oh, wow, so your mom put the time and effort into it. Yeah, oh okay, shoe cake that's awesome, great memory, man.
Speaker 3:And then the worst memory of my childhood.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. These are the best memories.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, but it's a great memory. That turned out to be my worst memory, oh okay, okay.
Speaker 3:I had struck out three times. We're playing the championship game In Little League of this tournament and we are in the championship game. I've struck out three times. We're down two to one. Martin Nielsen is the pitcher for Afton, Tool and Dye. He fucking threw gas. I mean, the kid was just he was your height, Tim, and just threw BBs and he fucking threw a pitch. The bases were loaded. He threw a pitch and accidentally hit my bat and I got a triple basis clearing triple. We won and my dad's, like my son, can hit and that was. That was the end of my life okay.
Speaker 2:So so you it's a great memory because you got had that moment, that glory, but it also turned your dad into a fucking monster everything was baseball from there on out. Shit.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it's one of the chapters in the book that I thought I was going to be done with already. I've been working on it for 15 years, tim. You know me, I'm not the most fleet of type, but yeah, no, I say I start the book with damn you, mark Nielsen. That's so funny, seriously. How do you strike out three times and then all of a sudden hit a triple? You don't. He hit my bat, it hit your bat. Yeah, he hit my bat. That's what he did.
Speaker 2:You just stuck the bat out.
Speaker 3:I had my eyes closed, dude, I guarantee it.
Speaker 2:Kevin, you know this isn't even one of my best memories, but it's definitely honorable mention is. A similar thing happened when I was 10 years old. When I was 10 years old, the nastiest pitcher in Little League. His name was Jeff Jonas. Okay.
Speaker 2:And he like, like you said, you know, this guy was six feet tall, at the age of 12. Yeah, I mean, and he threw absolute fire. Most kids couldn't even step into the batter's box or they were the very the edge of the batter's box ready to bail out if anything came toward them. He had one of those pitches that whistled oh, you're scared, shitless you are. You. People were just so scared, jeff, jonas, and I'm 10 years old at the time. I'm just my first year of of little league, that that level, uh-huh. And he's the 12 year old, just monster. And, and, kevin, I swung. I stood in there because I was like, okay, I'm, just I'm. And I swung and I had a big barrel bat and it hit just sweet spot of the bat and I'll never forget the feeling, because there is no feeling, right. Yeah, it just hit such the sweet and just exploded off the barrel and it was over the fence within like uh, two seconds.
Speaker 3:It was over the fence well, yeah, because the faster the ball comes in, the harder it goes out and kev, I remember it was.
Speaker 2:It was like my first over the fence home run in that league. Uh-huh, you know, I did it in the minor, it was minors or whatever. When you're you know nine, ten, you know eight, nine years old or whatever it is. I had a couple there, but this was my first one in that league and I did a huge crowd in the lights at night and I just remember everybody just freaking out that this 10 year old timmy tuttle, who you know he had, he's got the skills. He was the. I was the first pick in the draft for the age group.
Speaker 2:I was the first pick, so I had a little hype going in sure and just just crushed one off of jeff jonas and I remember jeff jonas, as I'm around the base is looking at me going. What the fuck?
Speaker 3:That's not supposed to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is not in the script. Man and I and similar to your story is a bit of a fallout Is immediately from that point on. In our little town in Wisconsin I became known. Yeah, of course, and up to that point my older sister, tina, and I were buds. But suddenly she turns into she's no longer Tina, she is Timmy Tuttle's older sister. Oh wow. So I think that that's the point where she started not liking me when I became this baseball guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and took away her identity.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I believe that's where the dissension started. Wow, because up to that point I, I, I love tina, tina, you know she would come home from school and she would show me the stuff she was learning. So I was always like three years ahead in terms of academics, like I knew what, what was coming, sure. So we were buds. And then, from that point on, after crushing that home, run off of jeff jonas, it kind of went downhill with her yeah, oh wow but yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2:You know how it is, man, you don't even feel it totally know how it is oh yeah, and I, even to this day, you know, even to this day, decades later, I, you know, I still have that feeling of not having a feeling. It's one of the most amazing things. It's kind of like for those of you who golf, when you just hit one on the screws in the center and it just goes right down the middle and it has that smoke trajectory on it. It's just gone.
Speaker 3:That's just an amazing feeling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, that was an honorable mention. I'm so, but yeah, that's. Uh, that was an honorable mention.
Speaker 3:I'm so sorry I I covered all of that in an honorable mention cab, my bad no, I had, I had my three already done and I liked it, uh, that you could relate to it because you had something similar happen yeah, now, on a similar note, uh, one of my three was a baseball moment.
Speaker 2:Okay, it was in between seventh and eighth grade and this was like the third league I was playing with. I played regular little league. I played, uh, my Catholic schools team and I played, you know the like the summer, you know town thing, you know sponsored by the high school, you know all that, all that. So it was the all-star game for that. And I remember, uh, patrick foy, he was catching for me. Now he was kind of like I like him, he's a great guy, but he's kind of my rival. Oh, really, yeah, he was kind of my rival in school because, um, his girlfriend, sarah matthew, I used I used to have a massive crush on Sarah Matthews, okay, but this was a day where he was my catcher. I pitched an absolute perfect game, okay, as an all-star. They let me pitch four innings first. Four innings 12 up, 12 down, kev.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 2:And seven of them were strikeouts. That's a game. But not only that. I had two home runs over the fence. Holy crap, dude, yeah. And not only that, but his girlfriend, sarah Matthews, was in the stands watching. Uh-huh yeah. And his sister, molly Mollylly foy the most popular girl in the school I've heard molly foy's name mentioned before yeah, was also in the stands and they both watched it yeah so that was like you know, that was like I started. I got some real uh uh in school, middle school. You know rep points there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, timmy T had his choice of women there.
Speaker 2:Had the. No, I still had the bowl haircut and I was still awkward and weird, but I you know, at least at that point they were talking about. Oh yeah, the kid can play ball.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's got some cred now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the kid can play ball. Speaking of that was in between seventh and eighth grade. Speaking of eighth grade the next childhood memory happened, also between seventh and eighth grade, a little later that's not actually. I think it was no, no, it was eighth grade Towards the end of the year when it finally started to warm up in Shorewood, wisconsin, in shorewood, wisconsin, uh-huh, and we had a place called atwater beach. Uh, right on lake michigan, just up the road from me.
Speaker 2:I mean, I live just off a lake drive in shorewood, north of milwaukee okay and we went before you go down to the beach area at atwater beach there's a bunch of woods there that you can like veer off the path and just go have fun in the woods. And I remember well, there were like six or seven of us, it was. It was, I think it was like three guys and four girls and we decided to just stop right there and play truth or dare. And I remember it was like my first real kiss, you know, like french kiss with tongue and shit like that. Yeah, with both megan, who was, who was, uh, who was my age, you know, and then her one year younger sister, maureen. I made out with both of them wow, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know how it is, when you're like, when you're like in middle school and you're like French kissing, you're a little like instantly.
Speaker 2:So you gotta you gotta pull the shirt out and you know you gotta. You gotta kind of bend over and walk a little bit, cause you're a pup, you, you know I remember I had to. I told him I gotta go to the bathroom. I went to the bathroom and I had the little you know. I had the thing a little and I just I used that, I used the uh waistband of my tighty whities to pin the thing against my belly and then walked back to them.
Speaker 3:See now, the beautiful thing about that story, right there, is that even in eighth grade, Timmy T had to use the waistband to pin his you know what against his belly. Had I been in that situation, mine would have just barely stretched above the pubic line.
Speaker 2:Do you have a hernia or something? Clyde's got a hernia or something damn Tim Tuttle, that's so funny. I just remember that it started to rain so we had to stop, and I was just like damn it, God. Hey, there's still two other girls here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Good Lord we're on the best game of your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you couldn't wait another like 15, 20 minutes, exactly Because the other one was Sheila and she's hot too.
Speaker 3:Oh wow. Anyway, Megan, Maureen and Sheila.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sheila, I wasn't so down with the Kathy girl, but you know I did pretty good. The Eminem sisters were really cute. Anyway, that was number two. Number three and I think I've told you about this before is sophomore year of high school. At the end of the basketball season, you know, with another like two or three weeks to play, they brought me up from JV as a sophomore to play varsity, okay, and I got called up and the damnedest thing and this is one of those that is actually out there on VHS somewhere. My mom's got it somewhere she doesn't know where. You know they got the back then and maybe they do it now too. Kev, where you have the high school's TV station there. There's a TV station at the high school, ok yeah, you ever heard of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've actually spoken at my alma mater's journalism class, which is now not journalism, it's multimedia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know I recorded it because they always did every game. It was a pretty big thing because it's basketball in Indiana, yeah big. So it's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3:Didn't you say the basketball net's the official state flag?
Speaker 2:The basketball hoop is the official state flag of Indiana. Yeah, whereas Texas is football, in Indiana it's basketball, yeah. But I got called up to varsity and you know, I had that on tape. The radio announcers were talking about me. You know, number 22, we got little Timmy Tuttle here. He just bought up from junior varsity. I've seen him perform, you know, because the Junior Varsity plays right before Varsity Kev, and he said I've seen him perform before. He's got some ups. He's an exciting player, this, that and the other. Let's see what he can do. And I got called in midway through the second quarter. They got put in and you know, because I'm the sophomore, I've got a bunch of cheers. You know, people that were sophomores in my class were excited about it that one of theirs was playing varsity and stuff like that. And about a minute and a half, two minutes, into my floor time I got a breakaway.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I stole it and you know, this is at a time where I could now dunk and Kev, I remember, and it's just slow motion and out of body. Right now there's nobody around me, it's just me and the basket in front and I'm on the left side and I come towards the right and I do a tomahawk dunk and the roar is a sound I will never forget Awesome. And the roar is a sound I will never forget Awesome. The whole place just was going insane that this sophomore just flushed one in his first look-see at varsity basketball. It was great. It was just a huge moment in my life.
Speaker 3:That's beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll never forget the sound. It was a deafening type sound and just for a moment I was the guy.
Speaker 3:And you parlayed this into Molly Foy, or who got Timmy T's attention.
Speaker 2:Well, in sophomore year, the girl was Susan Clipple.
Speaker 3:Oh Susan Clipple, oh Susan Clipple.
Speaker 2:She was dating Donnie. Our starting quarterback Okay, but from that point on I existed.
Speaker 3:Not anymore, Donnie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I existed, and just for that it was just another two or three months left in the school year. I, the guy that's awesome uh, you know, walking down the hall and everything like that, you can hear the whispering and all that shit. It was really cool, yeah, so that that those are the best childhood memories.
Speaker 3:Cap I think those are solid childhood memories. Thank you very little uh, let's talk.
Speaker 2:oh, do we have time? Cap't even know, did time get away from us?
Speaker 3:We're good, are you sure?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, Kev, I watched you know on my retro movie binge that I've been doing of late. Yes, I watched a movie from our time that just ripped my guts out. Oh, what movie is it? Do you remember the movie Singles from the early 90s?
Speaker 3:Absolutely Great soundtrack, most Pearl Jam Soundgarden. Yeah, it was set in Seattle, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2:Set in Seattle. It was about our generation Generation, you know, coming to age type movie, you know, after college trying to find their way in the world and meeting people and everything like that. And I remember watching that. When it came out I mean it was, yeah, it was right up our pipeline. Oh yeah, I mean I mean we were you, you and I were early 20s and they were speaking to us. That was our music, that was, uh, you know, our situation, that we were in socially and everything like that.
Speaker 3:And I just watched it and I was like oh man Wasn't. Matt Dillon in that.
Speaker 2:Matt Dillon played the lead singer of Citizen Dick that was the name of the band and Eddie Vedder and a couple other dudes from Pearl Jam jam were his bandmates in it. Yeah, and alice and chains, uh, they were on stage for one of the scenes and just, you know, it was lane staley, when he was still looking healthy, right, and then, uh, chris cornell you know these are the reasons why it ripped my guts out. You know is here's Lane Staley from Alice Chain, alice in Chains before the heroin took him, in a healthy situation, and there's Chris Cornell just piping it out, an amazing voice before he committed suicide, you know, just a few years ago.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the sound and you know they're going through all the couple stuff Bridget Fonda's in that movie.
Speaker 3:That's the girl Bridget Fonda.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was in the movie and you know they're all going through the whole, you know, trying to find somebody compatible and the stuff that they were going through, and I was just like damn man, how is that 30 years ago? Right, how is that 30 years ago? And I was just like, wow, that's so crazy. I mean it just all of that together swirled together it was. It was actually hard to watch, like from an emotional level.
Speaker 3:oh, yeah, I can see that. I mean because when you're talking about lane staley and chris cornell, two of the greatest uh rock singers of all time, oh man, I mean, you know, one of two of the greatest rock singers of all time.
Speaker 2:Ah man, I mean, you know, one of the most powerful voices of all time is Chris Cornell, big time Spoon man.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, Is he here?
Speaker 2:Outshine, outshine, because I'm going hungry. That's a great song, temple of the the dog. That was an all-star thing. Yeah, yep, god, those were the days, man, I mean. Yeah, you know, I I. The only thing I don't like about grunge is it kind of destroyed rock and roll as we know it. I mean mean it kind of kind of took the metal that we liked, kev, and just said bye-bye.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you no longer matter anymore. You know, and I liked, I liked our heavy metal. But God, that was such great music, man.
Speaker 3:First song I ever played in radio was smells like teen spirit.
Speaker 2:Was it really?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I look back at a lot of the firsts that I had in my life. The first referee that I ever announced in a professional fight was John McCarthy Big John McCarthy. That doesn't happen often. First song I ever played became the biggest song of a genre.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. How does that? Wow? Did you know? Was it early on in its run or did you already know? Okay, this thing is huge.
Speaker 3:It was in college, it was college radio. No shit dude College radio yeah.
Speaker 2:No shit. So it's before Nirvana became Nirvana. Absolutely no shit. I didn't even know that yeah.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know that.
Speaker 3:So here here are songs that I played, uh, before anybody really even knew who these people were. Uh, smells like teen spirit. Jerry was a race car driver.
Speaker 2:No shit, yeah, yeah, wow, okay Cool. That was kind of like the, the last episode we were talking about. You know, I was the one of the very few people in the movie theater watching reservoir dogs, that's right. You know where I was, like holy shit, this is different. Yeah, that's awesome dude. Yeah, I remember my first song, um thunder 94 nashville's new rock, thunder 94, before kevin and I. Just a couple months before kevin and I started doing mornings together on that same station, I was doing some weekend stuff and the first uh song that I played was space hog in the meantime great tune. I love that song and still to this day and you know all of the stuff from that playlist in 96 kev when we got together for uh for the first time.
Speaker 2:Anytime I hear it now, it's just vivid memories absolutely it just it takes you back and it marks, you know, the beginning of, uh, uh, my radio career and us doing morning radio together. I mean it just it means a lot. You know, uh, mother, mother, yeah, by tracy bonham, you know, I heard, I heard that last week for the first time in probably 10, 15, 15 years and I was like, ah, and I remember that one specifically, because that that was the moment where I liked Kevin Klein, cause I, when I really like listened, I listened to Kevin. It was like like right after Kevin and I met and I remember Kevin was doing nights at the time and he goes yeah, here's Tracy Bonham, it's mother square, do you do the math? Nashville's new rock 394, you said that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I remember you saying that. Do you like that?
Speaker 2:I like, I was like man that's, I was like this dude's cool man and then I got to know him, realized he is not that cool, not at all.
Speaker 3:He had that one moment Exactly. He peaked early.
Speaker 2:But it was just, it was the way Kevin said it. I mean, kevin, you know, Kevin had that, look man, he just had that, that, uh, that that alt rock, look, you know, and his voice was just perfect for it.
Speaker 3:Hey, you know, as we get older and you go back and you listen to songs that we played at the very beginning of our career, you're talking about having an appreciation for them even more now. Who did like for me? It's Alanis Morissette. I really wasn't that big of a fan when she first came out and when we were playing it in its you know infancy. Now, oh my God, man, jagged Little Pill is a great CD.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that. Jagged Little Pill immediately because I was like okay here is somebody who poured their guts out on a record, just let it all out. And I thought it was amazing. I was in shock at the honesty Because back then, particularly women artists, you, you struggle to be that honest.
Speaker 2:You, you, you got to be careful being that honest very true and I guess her honesty made that one of the highest selling records of all time. Isn't it still somewhere on the list of like one of the highest selling records of all time?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, it really is. Did it ever ruin it for you that she made those songs up about Dave Coulier?
Speaker 2:I wish I would never knew it was Coulier. Yeah, the guy she went down on in a theater was was the ass clown from full house, this guy right here.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:And I was like really all of that pain and anger for this guy canadian, I gotta tell you exactly. You know, and anybody, anybody, upright with a hockey mullet, you got a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I, yeah, I, yeah. When I remember hearing that song, when I was hearing that record, the whole thing was just great. I mean, just about every song on that record I was like, oh wow, she's seeing that. That, unfortunately, was her problem. Is she let it all go on that record?
Speaker 2:yeah and there's really nothing left yeah, can you top it? You'll never be, you'll never be able to top it. You know, right, it's kind of like you know, I love metallica, yeah, and they've had a couple, you know, since the early 90s, a couple songs, a couple cuts that are pretty, you know good, but man, you know they were the best when they were like watching 24-hour news and being angry and writing angry and singing angry and rocking angry so then, let me guess your favorite metallica cd is and justice for all hell yeah, isn't it?
Speaker 2:and yours?
Speaker 3:either that or ride the lightning ride the ride.
Speaker 2:The lightning is up there too. And anything to me, though, kev after Black after Black, album 91, enter Sandman, I mean they're not angry anymore because they're multi, multi, multi-millionaires. It's hard to wake up and be pissed off. When you wake up in a 10,000 square foot house with a huge pool, 17 rooms, you got your own chef and you're going to go drive away in your Maserati to run down to the store and get some coffee.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? Your edge is gone.
Speaker 2:You're not angry anymore, and unfortunately that happens to a lot of artists. Eminem was so much better when he was poor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh man Early Eminem Amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you and if you do too good, you know out front you're just chasing that, that dream it's. It's kind of like Orson Welles Citizen Kane Uh huh, Such an incredible movie that he never could do anything after that.
Speaker 3:Many critics say that it's the greatest movie ever made.
Speaker 2:It's. I mean, to me I can understand why he eventually just became a parody of himself, particularly, you know, lampooning his weight Because, yeah, he did it right. Lampooning his weight because, yeah, he did it right. You know, that's why I have I have so much respect for Tarantino. Is he's able to maintain it? You know? You figure, after reservoir dogs and pulp fiction, that this guy could have easily just been like I can't top that shit.
Speaker 3:Right, but he, but he has. Yeah, no, they're rare talents that can do that. I, I think, uh, I think christopher nolan is one of those folks that can continuously up his game. Uh, yeah, it's, yeah, you have led zeppelin. Very strong case right there, sir.
Speaker 2:Yes I mean how you know after you know. First off, you look at one and it shocks the world, the red zeppelin one. You know right out of the box good times, bad times and kev. I've heard from the old school radio people when they spun the full record, you know, back in 1968, 69, when it came out, uh, they listed the dazed and confused and they were like, oh god, this fucking changes things forever, yeah. And then they come out with zeppelin two and then Zeppelin III and then Zeppelin IV, one of the all-time selling records.
Speaker 3:Well, I was just getting ready to say when your fourth album becomes the greatest album in the history of rock, yeah, yeah, your fourth album Number four, number four and then kev, a couple albums after that.
Speaker 2:I mean and even though it's not as mainstream, but those who are true zeppelin fans and those who are real music fans and understand I mean physical graffiti.
Speaker 3:the double album is the greatest like continuous track to track piece of artwork ever made in history, in my opinion well, I'm glad that you say that, because then I can be considered a true led zeppelin fan, because physical graffiti for me is their all-time greatest work yeah, kevin, that's, that's how you, you know, when you talk, you know, and I get.
Speaker 2:I get this a lot, because I guess I'm kind of known as a zeppelin fan yeah, you are yeah and people will talk to me about Led Zeppelin and I'll ask well, what's your favorite record? If they say Led Zeppelin four, I'm like okay, you're, you're commercial, you're, you're mainstream. Anybody that tells me it's physical graffiti, then we can bond.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I think my bonding with you on that would probably end with my favorite song on that, because it is very commercial. I think Kashmir is one of the greatest songs ever written.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'll give you that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll give you that.
Speaker 3:It's not a deep cut, though.
Speaker 2:It's not Well, no, it's, it's. It's widely regarded across the board as one of the greatest pieces of music in history. Yeah, yeah, but but just down the road on, that record is in the light, and you know, I know I mean in the in the light. I remember hearing that for the first time when I was very, when I was a kid, and I just being mesmerized by that song.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And just playing it over and over, and over and over again.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you this, because that has a very Middle Eastern physical graffiti, has a very Middle Eastern overtone to it. Sure, did you like when the Beatles went and experimented with Ravi Shankar? I love that era of the Beatles too.
Speaker 2:I love it too. Yeah, it was brilliant. You know, the Beatles were incredible composers also. They were. They were brilliant, they were genius. A lot of that was, uh, acid, though they were I mean, these guys were late, literally taking five, six tabs of acid and then just going into the studio and being creative and throwing everything against the wall. And epstein, was it epstein? Uh, the brian epstein uh, yeah, he was the uh producer, wasn't he?
Speaker 2:I believe so yeah and he give him credit. I mean because he had hours and hours and hours of material to work with and he produced these things into incredible records they are incredible records. Yes, yeah, kev, I I do like that sound. Even when uh plant and page got together in the 90s and they had their middle eastern rendition uh of of a lot of their uh you know 70s songs, it sounded really cool right, no, it does.
Speaker 3:It sounds phenomenal, it's uh it. It is such, even when they did their their stuff in the 90s where they took the old school stuff.
Speaker 2:It's such a departure, it makes it sound so different yeah, I mean it and that that's another testament to why they were such great artists, kev is they're able to take their stuff and make it sound completely different, and it still is fucking awesome yeah, well, metallica did that with their symphonic with the san francisco orchestra, with michael cayman.
Speaker 2:That was cool, that was cool that was very cool, yeah, but you know, kev back to you. Uh, giving regards to cashmere is the greatest song when you can get the London Symphony Orchestra to bypass any payment whatsoever just because they want to work with Led Zeppelin. That tells you everything you need to know about Led Zeppelin, because, like Tchaikovsky and Beethoven and Mozart and all of those brilliant composers from hundreds of years ago, hundreds of years from now, they'll still be playing Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have the recording of the London Philharmonic doing symphonic Led Zeppelin and doing symphonic basically any high level uh european artist. I think they did some uh rolling stones. They did some super tramp. It's really cool yeah, yeah but they have a whole album yeah isn't that great, it's amazing yeah, okay, boy, that's fun.
Speaker 2:All right, kev, we got it. We got to wrap up now, okay. Uh, this has been a blast, as usual. Anything coming up on your side, hustle your other side. Hustle the Fuzzy Mike podcast. This is a great podcast where Kevin Kline delves into true crime and mental health issues. What do you got?
Speaker 3:I'm going to do a real short episode this week because we're traveling on Thursday and so I just want to get it out there. I'm actually driving the Corvette down to Houston this week and I'm officiating a wedding on Friday.
Speaker 2:Oh, no shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be there for a whole 25 hours.
Speaker 2:Well, here's what I want you to do Stop on by. Let me take care of the Corvette while you're doing it, of course, yeah, yeah, I'll make sure she's washed and gassed up and everything like that just let me have her for about an hour, of course. Yeah, I'll turn beltway eight into the fucking gumball rally, man, yeah give me here for about an hour.
Speaker 3:Klein, you'll need new brakes, you'll need new tires, you'll need new. Yeah, have you ever seen you?
Speaker 2:ever seen cannonball run.
Speaker 3:Uh, there'll be a fourth edition to this movie but no, I'm going to talk about things that I'm grateful for because it's thanksgiving week. There'll be a fourth edition to this movie. No, I'm going to talk about things that I'm grateful for because it's Thanksgiving week, so yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm going to talk about that kind of stuff, just right? Yeah, great. Also, do us a favor, please. You know, as we alluded to, we have an Instagram title and Klein to you, ttle the sign and and Klein KLI-N-E. Instagram and Facebook. Go, follow us. Like us, check out these awesome merchandise that we have on Tuttle Klein's Facebook. You can order that and make great stocking stuffers. I know a lot of you are like well, I got to figure out something to put in the stocking this year. Nothing better than a Tuttle Klein mug for that stocking. That's right. Subscribe to us, Give us a rating. Hey, do us a favor. If you're on one of the platforms for this podcast, go ahead and download it. I know a lot of you press play, but we'd appreciate it if you would download it. That's how they keep score in this industry and business. Kevin Klein, anything else? No, sir.
Speaker 3:That is it.
Speaker 1:Have an outstanding Thanksgiving, my brother, you too, sir. That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Klein Show. See you this Wednesday for an all-new episode, and you can get more Klein on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle and Klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
