Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #39: Confronting Pasts, Media Trust Issues, and Tarantino's Mastery
Breaking free from the shadows of our past, we share personal stories of healing and growth as we confront the deeply ingrained patterns of negative parenting. Kline reveals a transformative encounter with Accelerated Resolution Therapy, particularly reflecting on a turning point at age 13 involving his father. Meanwhile, Tuttle opens up about overcoming the lingering impact of his mother's critical words, which have shaped his approach to parenting today. Together, we explore how these experiences have not only strengthened our mental health but also empowered us to break harmful cycles and foster nurturing environments for children.
Shifting gears, we navigate the complex terrain of media bias, election skepticism, and the power wielded by a wealthy elite over our political systems. We question the reliability of mainstream news outlets, reflecting on how trust has eroded since the Trump era. The episode also ponders the potential for societal upheaval in response to perceived injustices or unchecked elite influence. Our discussion on democracy touches on the historical consciousness of Americans and the pressing need for transparency and accountability in governance.
On a lighter note, we celebrate the brilliance of Quentin Tarantino films and the captivating performances of iconic actors like Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert Downey Jr. Reflecting on binge-watching experiences and our evolving sensitivities toward on-screen violence, we share our admiration for Tarantino's masterful storytelling and his ability to weave themes of love and humanity into gritty narratives. Wrapping up with football insights, we talk about the Dallas Cowboys' recent struggles and the Kansas City Chiefs' potential to dominate future Super Bowls, marveling at the dynamic duo of Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid.
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Speaker 2:Daffy is the kleinest cline of them all. Tunney, what's going on? Tunney, nothing. What are you doing, man?
Speaker 3:Oh, just getting ready to enjoy another episode of Tuttle Cline.
Speaker 2:This is a lot of fun, still enjoying it.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. What about you?
Speaker 2:I love it, Dude. I ditched therapy about four weeks ago. I'm like, hey, man, I get what I need on Mondays for free.
Speaker 3:You never went to therapy.
Speaker 2:I spoke to some people out of request of one of my exes. Really yeah, I spoke to a therapist for a while good for you, man. That's awesome didn't work, it didn't, it just didn't take. Okay, yeah it just. I, you know, I, I guess, I guess I'm just like a, a big non-believer or so skeptical. I'm a skeptic, okay, and all I'm thinking is is you're just, I don't understand what your role in this is.
Speaker 3:You know. Well, yeah, I mean yes and no. I do kind of know, because I've been seeing therapists since I was what? 24 years old. But I just met the therapist of all therapists and she made a massive breakthrough for me about four weeks ago and it's unbelievable, tim.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess it's if you get the right one right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, definitely. You've got to find the right one, for sure.
Speaker 2:I guess I was getting to see students.
Speaker 3:Oh, I've had therapists identify what the problem is, but they never knew how to fix it.
Speaker 2:Oh, now you got one that fixed it.
Speaker 3:It's done. Yeah, one session.
Speaker 2:I love it. So that can you, uh, illuminate a little bit, or are you giving up her secret sauce, or you don't want to delve into that, I mean no, this is what I'm going to talk about on the Pussy Mike.
Speaker 3:Her name is Laurel Wears and she is an expert in ART, which ART is a more rapid response to EMDR, which is eye movement and all that kind of stuff. Ok, but anyway, what we did was we used these little buzzer things in my hand she's in Connecticut, so it was all remote. You do these little buzzer things in my hand and then we went to where the trauma started, which was when I was 13. And my dad told me I'd never amount to anything. I use that for motivation my entire life. Okay, but never did I realize how bad it fucked me up. I didn't ever think it did, but, yeah, that was where all of my stress and all of my self-loathing and all of my lack of self confidence came from, was that statement. And so what we had to do was, as a 55 year old, I had to go back and hold the hand of the 13 year old and reconfront my dad in that scenario, in that situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And and it did, Tim, and you remember how, uh. We even went to the Alaska thing, where Alaska was really the trigger. When I bottomed out and I couldn't go anymore in Alaska and I had to turn the backpack over to my friend Scott to finish the run with me, I really felt my dad saying you're a loser, you're a loser, and that's what hit me, that caused me to shut down my entire life, and it was in the back of my mind and so she brought that to the front. Tim, let me tell you something. I can look at a picture of my dad now and actually feel sorry. I can look at the trailer for Delivering my run in Alaska that I thought I failed at and want to do it again okay and that's good, tim.
Speaker 3:The last time I thought about killing myself was six, seven weeks ago that's an all-time record that dude, it was every day it was every day, I know yeah, so Laurel Wears is freaking amazing man. She's awesome and I made a friend too.
Speaker 2:She checks on me regularly, man, I am so happy that you got that breakthrough, kev.
Speaker 3:Thanks brother.
Speaker 2:And that you know along the same lines. You know the therapist that I was speaking to. You know it was all my mom Right? You know, yeah, my mom, when a mother tells her child that she hates the child that's devastating.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my dad told us when I was 22, my biggest regret in life is marrying your mom and having you kids.
Speaker 2:Wow, See, I could just never imagine doing that to my kids Never, I know. But I constantly fill them with positive reinforcement and fill them with and let and tell them I love them all the time.
Speaker 3:But well, that's what you're supposed to do, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just and that's something that is, you know, those that are that are able to break that cycle, and the first time, kevin go ahead, you got something, go ahead.
Speaker 3:I was going to ask you how much of your parenting came from doing the opposite of what your mother did.
Speaker 2:Yes, focusing on what my dad did and completely tossing out my mom. Yeah, you know nothing personal against her, I mean everybody's. There's no blueprint. Everybody's wired a little different. You know she was wired different and in her defense, you know I was a bit much.
Speaker 3:I was. My dad was abandoned by his dad and his stepdad, so there's no blueprint for parenting, but that was what he knew and so that's the way he parented was abandonment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, he, my mom, came from like strict German upbringing and it was the belt, yeah and um, you know I was, uh, you know I was a little bit of a little much to handle. I mean, you know that as well as anybody else. I'm good in small bites, but after a while you're looking at your fucking watch, right.
Speaker 3:I never was, because I always enjoyed what we had together. But I've seen that in action.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yeah, I I mean, and that's it. And my mom did not handle it well. And she, she saw me. I guess at least what we worked out. The therapist, she saw me. I was a kind of a a, an intellectual threat to her okay she did that.
Speaker 2:She did not like you know somebody. She liked her kids being intelligent. All of her kids are intelligent, absolutely all of us are. But I rubbed it in her fucking face. You know, yeah, and I and I know those times that I did and I regret it, of course, but you know it's still, but you know it's still you, she, you know you. You say to your son you know, and this happened multiple times, I hate you, no matter how much I played it off and was like whatever, whatever, that, that is massive blow.
Speaker 3:Massive. It truly is, and you don't realize at the time that you're internalizing that because you said like you played it off like whatever. When my dad said welcome to a life of no future, I was like, well, fuck you, I'm gonna show you.
Speaker 2:But it really did cut, I just didn't know it yeah, yeah and, and you know, kevin, it that's such, it was such an effect that, um that, uh, you know, like Kathy, early on in our relationship she said I hate you. Wow, I just it wiped me.
Speaker 3:That's a trigger. That's a trigger.
Speaker 2:I literally never saw her in the same way again Now. We had a relationship that lasted many years after that. But you know, going back this is what the therapist peeled back is like yeah, you never let that go.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you never let her close after that. I can see that you were always looking for something else after she said that to you Understandable and I'll never forget it. It was at Hendersonville, tennessee, on the stairs of our apartment. Never forget it. It was a hendersonville, uh, tennessee. On the stairs of our apartment, you know um, she walked down the stairs and in her defense again in her defense I did something that kind of deserved it. I was a little flirtatious with another lady okay but she, just she, said I, I hate you.
Speaker 2:And I'll never forget the look on her face and that moment. It was like I never recovered from it.
Speaker 3:Isn't it crazy how you can go right back to that situation? And you are right there. You can remember everything, tim. This was 13 years old, you know, and I remember what I was wearing at that time. Yeah, and I remember everything, like it was just happening right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's like you know, laura, my girlfriend Laura, she said that to me one time too. I hate you and I was like hey man, this will never last. Yeah. No matter what, we try to get a few times afterwards but it just didn't happen, of course Of course, and, and, and you know, erica and Taryn, they never said that to me. Yeah, and those are the fondest ones to me.
Speaker 3:Of course yeah, Because they didn't. There wasn't that massive emotional cut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they, you know, even though they got fed up, you know, hey, okay, looking at my watch. No, this is fun, this has been fun. I got to go. They never cut me to the core with those words yeah, yeah, well, so I'm glad you saw somebody.
Speaker 2:That's really cool yeah, we worked that out and that was good and I was like, okay, we're good, beautiful. After that it became the same thing over and over and I was like you know, I was kind of done with it well, yeah, I was seeing a therapist here that was 160 for an hour and I went 10 times and I wasn't getting.
Speaker 3:we identified the problem, but it wasn't getting any better. Laurel, my new consultant therapist, was one session cheaper than $1,600. And she's like you're done, you're clear.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's so awesome.
Speaker 3:I said that's not a really good business model for you, laurel, and she goes I'm not in it for business model, I'm in it to help people. And she says, yeah, there's quite a few people out there that need help, so I'll be okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Go from one to another, to another, to another. Fix the world.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you're that good as Beautiful lady too, super sweet, unbelievably cool.
Speaker 2:But you know, circling back real quick, since you brought it up of how you know, if you didn't have the best situation parenting, that you go completely in another direction. I kind of initially got that and I know you'll probably remember Kev I developed a bit of a friendship with Ark Alexakisakis, the lead singer of everclear. Yes, I remember that. Yeah, real fun. Oh, I love he's art alexakis, I mean his. He is one of the greatest uh human beings. Just kind, look you in the eyes very considerate, very well thought of.
Speaker 2:But as you know from his song father of mine, he did not have a great uh father situation not at all they, you know he, they let his father bailed on him when he was just a little boy, yep, and, and it affected him. As you know, he, his father, beat his mom and let just completely left the kids and they had a rough upbringing just trying to make it. And you know, his dad every so often would send him a birthday card with a five dollar bill and art's like that's it, that's all you know, and it it. And I remember art saying, and I was just sitting down with him when we were in vegas that one time and he was telling me you know, yeah, he goes. You know I got my own child now and they, you know I went the complete opposite with my dad. I'm probably over the top with affection and positive reinforcement and being kind and making sure they never know or never understand what I went through.
Speaker 2:They'll never, feel it, they'll never get it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that stuck with me because, you know, just a few years later Audrey came along and I'm like I'm going to do that too.
Speaker 3:Well, look at the world of mixed martial arts. Look at fighters. Several of them that I know of grew up in abusive homes where the mother or the father were abusive to them and they turned to fighting because it's all they knew. You know there's two paths you can go. You can go that route, you can continue the cycle, or you can do what you did and what art did, and that is I'm going to break the cycle. I know what not to do. I know how not to do it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do it a different way. I just, and I also remember, like you know, I, I, I was never like close to my mom after that and I'm like I'm not going to do anything with my kids that'll make them not want to be close with their dad. Definitely you know what I'm saying. So I, I just over the top, like positive reinforcement and I, you know, and they're just, they just turned out to be these great kids. They're unbelievable.
Speaker 2:I got so lucky. I got so lucky. I can't even believe it. I'm not the most devout dude there is, but, man, I talk to God and I just say thank you so much for Audrey, Jonas, Dallas and Timmy. All of them are just amazing kids.
Speaker 3:And you know, the cool thing about all of this is that I think you have a better relationship with your mom today than you ever did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean nice. One of it is the heavy duty dementia that she does. She does not recollect the rough 80s. 80s were a little rough for her because of me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, the 80s now are a little bit better. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean sure she'll tell me the same exact story three times in a row within the same phone conversation. But you know now I'm her golden boy.
Speaker 3:There you go, that's right.
Speaker 2:Well, you tell you, it only took, uh, it only took 40 years yeah, so, yeah, we're good now, we're cool now, um, but yeah, that's uh, yeah, you can break the cycle. I. That's why I never, I never buy the excuse of when you know somebody does something heinous or ridiculous. Well, they were raised this way or this happened to their their childhood. Now you, you have, uh, the means and the mental aptitude to break that cycle and go in another direction, because you know that's wrong. Any, any human being uh knows that. Hey, okay, that was wrong. You know uh. Uh, you know dad fondling okay, that was wrong. You know. You know dad fondling with my giblets was wrong. I'm not, I'm not going to do that. You know society, I guess, will give me that free pass. Now I could be all rapey, serial killer, motherfucker because of that, but I'm not going to go in that direction.
Speaker 3:I'm breaking the cycle. It's true, you have the power to break it yeah, why is it?
Speaker 2:and that's so logical, you know? Why do people allow themselves? Oh well, I had a rough upbringing, now I'm gonna be a mass murderer. Why I don't get it?
Speaker 3:because Because, again, there's no blueprint, and so you go with what you know. You know and some people that's all they know. You know, it's like the rabbit hole that Trish and I are in right now. You know, we have watched the first three seasons of Dexter in six nights. You know, Dexter is a serial killer and he was trained and taught by his dad oh, I love that right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get cav. That is such an amazing show oh, it's incredible I mean that is one of the best shows you know, breaking bad fargo game of thrones. They get the limelight, they get up, but Dexter is right up there yes, it is right. I mean just right up there in terms of a really, really good show yeah, this is the second time that we've watched.
Speaker 3:Uh, all of it. You know we we watched it when it was first out and now we want to get into the new series, but we felt we should do a little brush up.
Speaker 2:That's so smart, cav. Thank you, sir, that's so smart. I know you saw this my ex Kathy, audrey and Jonas' mom selling the Great Wood House.
Speaker 3:I didn't know she was still in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah Stayed in it. 19 and a half years ago I bought that thing for us and our little family and she's putting it up for sale. Her and her new husband are moving to Canyon Lake, going to the Hill Country.
Speaker 3:Oh beautiful. Okay yeah, Very nice.
Speaker 2:So I just looked at it and I go because I bought it for 240 Gs, right? Uh, because I bought it for 240 g's right on may 5th 2005 and they got it up for sale for 580 grand, and you know what they'll fucking get it?
Speaker 3:oh, they'll get it easily, that's actually that's actually cheaper than I thought they would list it I'm just like that's 340 g's right that's a pretty good return on investment over 19 years, isn't it?
Speaker 2:19 years. Yeah, like you know, 120, 130% return.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you'll take that.
Speaker 2:Absolutely so, but you know she's going through stuff. I guess sent out a? Uh, an id picture uh of jonas's black belt id card when he got his black belt as a taekwondo uh martial arts guy when he was 11 years old man, it's something that I forgot.
Speaker 2:He even did yeah, I did too. I, you know, I did too, and I and I, you know it's a I'll, I'll, I'll. Let you post it right here. Here's his id picture 11 years old, he is a black belt in taekwondo. It's a silent assassin man, exactly, exactly. And I, you know, I told him. I said hey, dude, j fred, you got to carry this thing around that way. If somebody gets a little feisty on you, you don't have to do anything, you don't have to resort to violence, you just pull out the card and say, hey, tread lightly I don't think you want to do that wait, you look like a little kid there cute little halloween costume son.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's yeah, want to find out I. I asked jonas, though, if he keeps up with it at all, if he knows like all of the uh stuff. And you know he says it's like so ingrained but he doesn't practice as much as he should, right? But what I'm assuming is is, once you know that stuff, if the shit were ever to hit the fan, yeah that it would just light up, it would trigger absolutely.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's all muscle memory but.
Speaker 2:But the thing is is jay freddy is such an easy going, chill guy, he will never be in that situation.
Speaker 3:No, he won't and he won't, he won't put himself in that situation. If that situation arises, it would be.
Speaker 2:Well, when him and his sister were in San Francisco this summer that's when he was given that artificial intelligence speech there was kind of a homeless guy that was pushing the line and getting a little aggressive with them. Obviously he was having issues. He needed the number of Kevin's therapist. But you know, j Fred, you know, I guess, ready to go in case. You know he had to see stepped into the stance. Sure, and I guess the homeless guy saw the stance and was like nah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that would be enough of a deterrent.
Speaker 2:I thought these were two easy tourist marks or whatever, but you know he did something that I see on UFC.
Speaker 3:And she's not small. No, she's six foot, right, she's 5'10", 5'10" okay.
Speaker 2:And she's a walking muscle. Yeah, I mean, I think she still has Texas Tech Volleyball's all-time weight room records still, I can believe that. Just a beast.
Speaker 3:And if she ever got beat she'd go back and reclaim it. She's that competitive.
Speaker 2:I would feel bad for any guy that thought they could get one over on her. They would very quickly be on the ground bleeding and wishing they would have picked an easier mark. Yeah, kev, yeah my gosh. You know it turned out pretty easy and I love it. The election is over, kinda.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I saw that on the plan. You said kinda what's still to be determined.
Speaker 2:Well, what the hell's going on in like Arizona and shit. Why does it take so long for them to count?
Speaker 3:I mean Trump was declared the winner of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but it took like five days and they're still grinding out the House of Representatives.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I mean, think about it, tim, it's Arizona. Ok. So you representatives? Yeah, well, I mean, think about it, tim, it's arizona, okay. So you have the majesty of sedona, you've got the grand canyon. You don't want to just completely lose that. So you look at that in the morning, then you go to count, then you need a break. You go look at that again, then you need you know. I mean they're not going to rush things because they got such beautiful scenery oh, you know, the college basketball season has started.
Speaker 2:wildcats are on U of a let's go, let's take a break and counting and we'll go watch the Wildcats.
Speaker 3:That's right. It's just the presidency, no big deal yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the thing about it is like the house is still, as of us speaking right now, on Monday, the 11th happy veterans day, by the way to day the 11th, uh, happy veterans day, by the way. To all our vets, thank you for everything that you have ever done and continue to do. We appreciate the shit out of you, uh, but you know, um, what was I saying?
Speaker 3:I forgot what I was saying the house of representatives is still, oh yeah it's still up there.
Speaker 2:I mean it looks like it's going to be to, you know, maintained by the republicans plus two seats. But I don't like this taking a long, because when it takes like this long to count, it gives people with bad motives Democrats a chance to give birth to ballots.
Speaker 3:But, like you said, it looks like they're already going to control, so what does it matter?
Speaker 2:Again after 2020, I have PTSD. Okay, you know when everything just stops and then suddenly, every single vote that comes in is a Biden vote, every one. I don't know how that happened. 112,000 in a row votes in this precinct and they were all Biden. It's crazy. We didn't have one. Donald Trump, you know one. I just get a little nervous of that.
Speaker 3:I understand. I understand yeah.
Speaker 2:Somebody. Could you know they're looking for the just that moment when you know a couple of the poll watchers are going to the bathroom, One's grabbing a smoke, another one's on the phone real quick with his wife and oh, all of a sudden this new box shows up and, oh my God, every single one is a democrat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, someone was out on lake havasu and they forgot to drop this off yeah, and again, this is not me saying, this is for the record.
Speaker 2:You can just go look at it. I mean it is it's. And just look at kamala harris. Every single state that she won does not have voter ID.
Speaker 3:Was that deemed to be true? Yes, that was OK so there you go.
Speaker 2:Communism has to cheat to win, because nobody really wants communism. Nobody does except them, because that they're the all powerful, they're the gods.
Speaker 3:If you're a communist and you're in power, then you're the one who benefits from it.
Speaker 2:You're the god, and everybody else is a slave and eats loaves of bread.
Speaker 3:But yeah, that's the only thing that's kind of not determined right now. But I mean, the Reds got a mandate.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah. And the most hilarious thing is now everybody's talking. Well, we need unity. You know, everything's got to be united. It's like, really, after you tried to assassinate him twice, put a bunch of bullshit charges on him, put him in jail, got mug shots of him, wrecked him financially, now you want peace. He will go in that direction, although there'll be some probably some investigations of some people who have it coming, okay, but hopefully I, you know I'm just I, I can't. I guess I'm pessimistic.
Speaker 3:I just don't trust anyone, anything anywhere, anyhow, anymore I believe that, uh, that they've brought that upon themselves, uh, and the media has definitely helped that.
Speaker 2:They're destroyed. I mean they're destroyed. I mean, did you see that right there?
Speaker 3:I mean they had numbers on election night in the hundreds of thousands, whereas if you went to X, to Twitter, there were like five or six or seven live election results streams that were 30 million, 20 million, 10 million you know Well, I watched a couple of different channels that night on Tuesday evening election night, and I primarily watched ABC because I think that of the networks they're kind of the most balanced for the ABC, cbs, fox and NBC. But even their guy that was tallying the votes for when it was in Georgia he kept saying, and I quote Trump's numbers are stubbornly high and won't come down. Yeah, stubbornly high. What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 2:He's rooting for a team, absolutely, and that's that's just so ridiculous. That's just so ridiculous. Yes, we've known for decades, at least 60 years, that you, you and the mainstream media, you swing left, but at least you used to be subtle about it until trump comes along. Now it's just wide open, it's just, and that and that that has destroyed them. They, they will never, ever recover from that well, I liked.
Speaker 3:What, uh was it? It was john stewart who, at the end of his uh special, his the end of his show that night, he said I got a message for pollsters. Fuck you exactly.
Speaker 2:You'll never pay attention to another poll in your life if you, if you actually ever look again, look at a poll and go, oh, it looks like it's going to be it, you're an idiot. As a matter of fact, it's a good rule of thumb. You can go opposite. Add 12 points to the guys they hate, which is, quote, unquote constitutionalists, republicans, people who like freedom, people who like America. Just add 12 to them. That's a rule. That's a rule of thumb.
Speaker 3:That's the rule of thumb now, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And you had astutely pointed out. The morning before the election you said look at the betting line.
Speaker 2:And they have it down all the time. Kev.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They have. I mean they're so good. I mean they are Because there's huge money on the line. Man, of course you know they don't jack around. Smart money does not play around, uh-huh. So, yeah, you just go with the betting lines. And, speaking of which, I got a guy in the neighborhood. He bet $10,000 the day before on Harris to win. Oh my God. So he would get $16,000. Okay, and that was just to hedge his life, because he is in a business situation where, if Harris becomes the president, you know, his business is destroyed.
Speaker 3:Oh really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's. You know it's an oil and gas thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And his business is completely destroyed. So he bet 10,000 just as a hedge to give him. You know he would win 16,000 because it was a plus 160 situation and he would use that $16,000 to move to Costa Rica.
Speaker 3:Ah, yeah, he could do it. Yeah, doesn't cost that much.
Speaker 2:He's out 10 grand, but he has a future in America, so that was worth it to him to have that peace of mind, yeah, okay. Even if you just know in your heart of hearts, hey, trump's going to win, you can't put money on it because you don't know what they have up their sleeve.
Speaker 3:That was going to be my be honest for you this week. Be honest. Be honest for you this week.
Speaker 2:Had the results come back that Kamala Harris won, would you have thought it was legit? No, no, okay, absolutely not. The number one reason I don't think that 2020 is legit besides all the funny business at three in the morning, when everything stopped when he was leading and then suddenly every vote coming in was Biden was the fact that I don't buy into a situation where somebody who can't even fill a lunchroom at one of their election rallies like a school lunchroom is beating the guy that fills a stadium and there's another stadium full of people outside wanting to get in. Okay, I don't buy that. That's impossible to me.
Speaker 3:The only that just doesn't happen so, based on what 2024 turned out, anybody that is still trying to push that.
Speaker 2:Biden got 81 million votes legitimately the most votes in history when we didn't even see him on the campaign trail he was in his basement. And when he did do something he couldn't even fill a fucking lunchroom man. He couldn't fill the men's bathroom with supporters and give a speech. Yeah, yeah. If you don't know that yet, if you don't see that yet, then there's nothing I can do with for you. Seriously, you are either so drank the Kool-Aid brainwash sheep or you're part of it. You know, you're part of that, that, that evil, you know one of the two things.
Speaker 3:What if you don't want to believe that? Because you don't, you still want to believe in democracy.
Speaker 2:Come on man.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 2:There's enough evidence now that it is a pseudo democracy at best, that no matter what happens on Election Day, the billionaire power elite, they own everything anyway. I mean, Carlin said it they own the courts, they own the politicians. They own everything via lobbying, via, you know, donations, via promises of riches afterwards, and you can just see it. Look at these politicians how they go from having nothing to having $500 million overnight. Oh yeah, no. I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So to at this point believe in a pure Republican, pure democracy is ludicrous. You are an idiot to think that.
Speaker 3:So will we ever get back there?
Speaker 2:Not unless you say that the only way we'll get back there, kev, is if we take an honest look and we just say, hey, man, we've got to do this and we have. You know, not only you know special investigations, you know tribunals and everything like that from the top down. I mean, you got the billionaires that are involved, the untouchables. You know they've got to be put on trial for crimes against humanity, treason or whatever. And then all their little underlings in the mainstream media, in the big tech world, in, you know, in academic world, you know in all these different areas that conspire against Americans, the constitution and the american way of life. All of these individuals and entities have to be put on trial and you have to let the truth out and let the let light shine on the truth. We've got to know everything about the kennedy assassination. You know who cares, who's still alive, who was involved with it.
Speaker 3:Prosecute the fuckers you know, yeah, they do that with Nazis.
Speaker 2:All of them. I mean everything that you got in terms of 9-11,. You know there's 28 pages you aren't allowed to see from that report. That's ridiculous. That you can't see 28 pages from the official report that you, as an American citizen, and your taxpaying dollars paid for.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd like to read them.
Speaker 2:I'd love to read them. I'd love to read them. I want you have to have complete sunshine, complete truth, and then those who have been involved in the bullshit that are still alive put on trial and given sentences, and if those sentences are execution, then you execute them. You have to, you have to do that, otherwise it'll never be a pure democracy again and we're fooling ourselves I ask the questions.
Speaker 2:That's the answer now here's the here's, here's the caveat to that, though, kev okay, it is. The american people are a powerful entity, us together as a people, a because we're used to a certain amount of freedom and, b we're armed With the direct edict from our forefathers, written down in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, saying hey, right to bear arms. It ain't for hunting, you know. It isn't even for self-defense. If somebody comes through the door, it isn't even for self-defense. If somebody comes through the door, it's if the government gets a little bit too King George III-like and needs to be, I guess, reminded of who's really in charge.
Speaker 3:It starts out with winning the course of go ahead finish.
Speaker 2:Well, the Declaration of Independence Winning the course of human events, and the said government no longer serves that of its people. It is that people's responsibility. It is our responsibility to get rid of that government by whatever means needs need be and start a new government immediately.
Speaker 3:He's never read that before.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what it is, the first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. Well, that's what it is, the first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 3:It's our forefathers telling us hey man, if this shit happens to you, you too, you got to do it again. I always remember that. I always remember that, that you know, you were so quick to say that.
Speaker 2:When, in the course of events and the said government no longer serves that of its people, it's that people's responsibility, not only for themselves but future generations, to get rid of that government and begin a new one. Weren't they poetic writers. I mean, not only do they have foresight, but man they could write.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was just, it's just brilliant stuff. And I'll tell you this man Tyrants hate that document. And I'll tell you this man tyrants hate that document. I'm sure, because it's all written right there, and circling it back since you brought it up is deep down those powerful entities who really own everything and make all the calls. They understand that. Okay, I think we're approaching the line where we're going too far.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying okay, yeah, hopefully, because at some point, if they're exposed too much or if they go too far and that first paragraph from the declaration of independence starts playing out again, there are the targets no, yeah, and you there. And there's once 50, 60, 70 million armed Americans, and again Kev a lot of them are vets who are experienced and know what they're doing, and they're angry Once they push those people too far. The people let's just call them capital T, the and capital P people. Once you push them too far, they're coming after you.
Speaker 3:So like a second civil war second revolution, whatever you want to revolution. Okay yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that I think we're close, or at least we were close. We'll see how this plays out. I mean, I I still uh, you know, don't trust the situation. I still think that there are powerful forces who feel threatened by what happened last tuesday because they're in their mind it's like okay, we fucked with him so much over the past eight, nine years that he's gonna come in and he's gonna go after us, and he would have the right to do that, because they broke a lot of laws and they went too far.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen any indication, from what I've read or what I've seen online, that that's even going to be one of his first 100 day tasks, you know? I mean you talk about the appointees that he's already made to his cabinet the very first woman chief of staff in the history of the United States of America. I didn't think he liked women.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Anything. Anything they can do to alienate him from any powerful group of people.
Speaker 3:So, but then he's talking about the securing the border in his first 100 days and he's talking about the mass deportation which I don't know how that's going to happen.
Speaker 2:I honestly think, and it's not going to be like you know a mom and her two kids who walked over from you know the Mexican border from El Salvador.
Speaker 3:They're supposed to be criminals.
Speaker 2:They're going to get. Look, they emptied Venezuelan prisons and a bunch of Central and Southern American prisons, and we have very violent people, the Venezuelan prisons and a bunch of Central and Southern American prisons, and we have very violent people. We have apartment complexes being taken over, entire little towns being taken over, and all he's going to do is hey, man, we're not going to take your criminals and your violent people, they're going back, they're going home. So that's what. That's what the thing is. He's not going to go after your cleaning lady who came over two years ago.
Speaker 3:No, but I think it was amazing that he did name his deportation czar Dexter Morgan. Good stuff, Kev. Thank you. Thank you yeah.
Speaker 2:Brings it all around there. I love that. Brings it all around there. I love that. Okay, here's my, here's my be honest for you, kev. Okay, do you ever wonder what kind of genius inventions or ideas society has been robbed of because of distractions like smartphones and video games.
Speaker 3:No, I've never really thought of that, I just just I I think of the inventions that have been made and like, holy crap, man, where did that genius come from? You know, but no, not. Now that you bring it up, I will start thinking about that. Thank you sorry. I didn't mean to lay that, that's okay it just.
Speaker 2:I just had this, this thought, you know it was hitting me as like, if Xboxes were like available in the 50s and 60s, would like Martin Luther King's dream have been to excel in Madden or kick button Call of Duty instead of you know his real dream.
Speaker 3:Right, you know, yeah, true, true, I've just been asking those questions. You know, I have a dream that I can master Grand Theft Auto.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I can really get through this level in Fortnite, you know.
Speaker 3:I'm following you.
Speaker 2:It's just such a time, suck.
Speaker 3:Yep yeah, you would play a lot of video games if you didn't realize that it was a time suck. I've never been one to play them. I'm not that big in them.
Speaker 2:I have a very obsessive personality where I not only if I like something, I not only want to do it a lot, but I want to be the best at it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, you pour yourself into things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know I anytime that I've been involved in video games, it's time traveling Kev. I'm like, how did it become Tuesday afternoon?
Speaker 3:Well, I remember the Christmas story that you told when Kathy got you a PlayStation or a games console and you were like 36 straight hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know it was off. It was, you know, around I think it was around 2007 or something like that for Christmas, 2017. And back in the day, kevin and I would wrap up doing the show right after Texas Children's Hospital, radiothon, and we would be done for the year and have two weeks off until the new year. And I got for Christmas.
Speaker 2:I forget what the game console is now, but she had Madden and I think I played it 16 hours straight dang and you know audrey's like six years old and you know jonas is four years old and I got young kids uh-huh and I just blew, even though I don't have to go to work or have to really be anywhere. I just blew 18 hours that I could have been bonding with my kids during the holidays. And I told Kathy I put it right in the back of the box, just exactly as neat. As I got it sealed everything up, I handed it to her and I said take this fucking thing out of the house.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She took it back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, living life, not video game.
Speaker 2:I can't do it, I just I'm that guy. Anything I do, I mean cab, I mean you know, in 2023? My obsession last year was golf okay and you know, I got a membership at cinco ranch and I was.
Speaker 2:I was out there every single day, man I was. You know, I'm hitting buckets and buckets of balls, or I was playing, and I was playing twice, sometimes three times a week, and I was hitting buckets after buckets after buckets every single day, working on my short game. Oh, I just became obsessed with it, you know, and I was just like okay, I can't, I just a little bit, tim, just a little bit, is fine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, moderation, you've always said.
Speaker 2:Yeah, moderation is fine. That's just how I am, you know. Yeah, you know, that's why it took me a while to really you know in terms of my trading. And let's do this right now, Kev, let's talk about our rabbit holes. Rabbit hole of the week. We got your rabbit hole already, right Dexter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Dexter, We've watched three seasons and each season is 12 episodes. We've watched three seasons in six nights.
Speaker 2:That's six episodes a night. Yeah, and they're 55 minutes long.
Speaker 3:But that's awesome, kev, that six episodes a night, yeah, and they're 55 minutes long.
Speaker 2:But that's awesome, kev, that you can do that. Yeah, that's good bonding that you have with Trish. Totally, you know you guys can have your little think tank discussions.
Speaker 3:Well, it's funny because we went to season one and season two and we're like we don't remember a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2:It's been that long Season one Wasn't like. We don't remember a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 3:It's been that long season one, wasn't that his?
Speaker 2:brother, that was the killer, yeah, the ice truck killer, the ice truck killer. I remember now, and uh, who was the, uh, the, the uh, la huerta, who was the?
Speaker 3:yeah, uh, maria la huerta oh yeah, I always liked moda.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah and yeah, okay, see, it's been god. I have not watched that. That came out. What? Oh six, uh, yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:See, yeah, I have not watched. I can't even believe. I remembered that right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, strong characters.
Speaker 2:Oh, they were great characters. And of course, uh um Dexter's dad.
Speaker 3:Remar, James Remar.
Speaker 2:Hey, Kev, you remember we talked to him on the phone.
Speaker 3:Totally remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I just thought that was awesome. You know James Remar in case you didn't know, he plays Dexter's father. Just a great actor. But he's also been an awesome villain. You know he was in Warriors. One of the guys in Warriors, warriors come out. But to me the best was I think it was 48 Hours.
Speaker 3:He wasn't.
Speaker 2:He was Gans.
Speaker 3:He, I think it was 48.
Speaker 2:Hours. He wasn't, he was Gans. He was Gans, I know. Do you remember that? Totally remember. I mean, put a picture of Gans up right here. I mean he just looks like, oh my God, that's a bad guy. You know him and the Indian dude were the villains in 48 Hours with Eddie Murphy and Nick Nolte.
Speaker 3:Great movie.
Speaker 2:But I'd always had that in the back of my mind James Remar and I remember when he came along he played some other key parts and some westerns and stuff like that. But when he did Dexter as soon as I saw him on Dexter in 2006, I'm like yes.
Speaker 3:Would you call him a character actor?
Speaker 2:Yes, and a very solid character actor. Like you're buying what he's selling.
Speaker 3:Oh, totally.
Speaker 2:Totally. He's not one of those actors that is just reading lines or, you know, just looking at the other character waiting for his turn to speak.
Speaker 3:Do you think character actors are actually better actors than stars?
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, cause they have a lane.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:But the thing you got to watch out about character actors is a lot of times it becomes who they are themselves dumbo dropped into a scene okay that's what you got to be careful about. Character actors right, yeah that's why you you have you have to have mad respect for the actors like Robert Downey Jr, like when he did Oppenheimer.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:You don't even know it's Robert Downey Jr, until like 15 minutes later it's like wait a minute, that was Robert Downey Jr. That's how good he is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he is amazing.
Speaker 2:He is, I remember even Kev less than zero, oh it's one of my favorite movies. Very early on I was like this guy is real, I'm buying what he's selling. He's that good, yeah, Kev, you know in terms of our generation and they call I guess they call them a brat pack. Is that what they call them?
Speaker 3:That's what the Rob Lowe and Ali Sheedy and Judd Nelson.
Speaker 2:Emilio Estevez yes, Judd Nelson. Emilio Estevez yes, Demi Moore. But you know, some of the offshoot ones were Andrew McCarthy Uh-huh, and you know. And Robert Downey Jr was kind of included as an offshoot one, and to me, Andrew McCarthy and James Spader oh, Spader's amazing. Those guys are like the most incredible actors of our generation. I'm trying to think of someone you know who else is good is is Brad Pitt. Yeah, yeah, he he's a, he's the pretty boy, so he doesn't get as much, uh, accolades as an actor. I know he's got an Academy award, but you know, I remember Brad Pitt when he did, uh, the, not only the movie Seven, but Twelve Monkeys.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like holy shit, he's not just a pretty boy, this guy is just grinding up dialogue.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, they said in his little part that he had in Thelma and Louise that they realized then that he was going to be a star.
Speaker 2:Oh, you knew that right then he stole those scenes. You know, and at that time you know those are, those are big time actresses. They're. Gina Davis and Susan Sarandon were big time actresses, and this new guy, who'd, you know, maybe done a sitcom here and there or whatever, comes on and just steal scenes. You just knew that you were going to see him again.
Speaker 3:And we have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we have. I guess it worked out for him. Brad Pitt is his name For those of you who don't know, but no, he's a really good actor too.
Speaker 3:You know, DiCaprio just turned 50.
Speaker 2:Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3:I know right, Jack from Titanic is 50 years old yeah ah, that's crazy and he celebrated with a 19 year old, a 20 year old and a 21 year old exactly so it equals 20 or equals 50.
Speaker 2:There you go. That's, that's how that's dicaprio's way. If somebody says, hey, date, date your age, he's like, all right, I'm, I can't, I have no room to talk, I. I date young too. And I'd imagine dicaprio says this, the same thing I do when asked why do you date women so young? Because we can, there you go. I was getting ready to say it, because you can I mean I, I ask you know, I make the inquiry and they're saying yes, still, so why not?
Speaker 3:There you go, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a curse. I hate myself for it. I do, and I know I'm probably going to pay in the end. Yeah, that's, I absolutely love that. I love that, kev. Okay, kevin, yes, let's do a top three.
Speaker 1:Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Kline's top three. I love this right here Kev.
Speaker 3:Okay, it's yours this week, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I actually started this with my family too, know, audrey Jonas, and even her mom and their new stepdad, jason, and and Brandon, audrey's future husband. Uh, top three Tarantino movies in order. Oh, okay, top three Tarantino movies in order, and I want you to think for a second. I'll stall for you if you need to think for a second, because this is one where it's like, oh shit, I forgot that one. So be careful.
Speaker 3:There was a time in yours and my relationship that I would not have been able to play this because I had not seen a Tarantino movie. Now I have seen several Tarantino movies and dude hands down Uh, it's inglorious bastards for me.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's my number three.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:That's a great. That's a great. Are you kidding me? What a brilliant movie that is. Oh my God, it's amazing, I mean just uh, the characters, the violence is just so perfect. Yeah, you know, in the basement, you know scene with the German soldiers, I mean that was just one of the most unbelievable scenes right there. And you know Eli Roth as the bear Jew, yeah, I mean awesome stuff, man. I love that movie.
Speaker 3:And the one thing that trish and I learned in that movie is you don't fight in the basement you don't never, ever fight in the basement.
Speaker 2:Aldo rain I mean brad pitt is aldo rain yeah, he was amazing. I speak the most italian I speak the most Italian, so I'm going to be Italian. What do you know? Arrivederci.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't speak any Italian. That's why you're going to stand there and shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:I want my scalps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep. If you haven't seen the movie, go see it. It's phenomenal. Now, I know he didn't direct this. I think he wrote it true romance. Would you consider that a tarantino?
Speaker 2:yes, yes, I was gonna make sure that you, you know, don't forget true romance and natural born killers were written by quentin tarantino okay, cool, all right then.
Speaker 3:Uh, then then true romance is definitely in there.
Speaker 2:And Kev, you know that he was actually Tarantino for a while, not taking anything away from you know the move, that movie right there. But he was thinking of redoing that the way he wanted it done.
Speaker 3:Oh really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know that Christian Slater. You know, with all his geeky movie, you know dialogue he had with with Alabama. You know he was playing the role of Tarantino. That's him. Is it really Christian Slater? Is him.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is is Quentin Tarantino, you know it's the only time he put himself in a movie. Is I am Clarence from true romance. How amazing.
Speaker 3:I didn't knowce from True Romance.
Speaker 2:How amazing I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, and again that movie, True Romance, one of the best dialogues ever Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walken on the origin of Sicilians.
Speaker 3:It is amazing.
Speaker 2:It is unbelievable. Now let me say before you run to it, because I know a lot of people listen to this. Or it is amazing it is unbelievable. Now let me say before you run to it, because I know a lot of people listen to this or watch this and then immediately Google. You know, Christopher Walken, dennis Hopper, true romance. That is some intense dialogue about subject matter that if you are a hypersensitive pussy, you may not be able to handle it.
Speaker 3:That's all I'm going to say. Very true, very true, very true.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 3:I guess my third one and I know that it's going to not fly well with you because it's not Pulp Fiction Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker 2:Don't worry about me, man. All right, don't worry. You do you, you don't. You don't do the, you don't do these lists to. Uh, you know, accommodate me.
Speaker 3:Uh, I'm not that much of an 800 pound gorilla I've been told, though, that if I see once upon a time that it's gonna blow me away oh, you've never seen, once upon a time no, okay, see it.
Speaker 2:That's my number two really that good huh it was really good okay here's the thing is is the brilliant thing about tarantino is, yeah, he starts off, you know, reservoir dogs and and pulp fiction, but he's actually getting better and better and better as a filmmaker. Wow, you know, yeah, once upon a time in America, kev, you and again, I know you're on this Dexter thing right now. Ok, but if you just need a breather, I would, I would insert once upon a time in America soon.
Speaker 3:I heard DiCaprio is just amazing in that movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, DiCaprio is just amazing in that movie. Oh, DiCaprio is a genius actor. First off, just incredible in this movie and second off, Django Unchained.
Speaker 3:Which I can't watch anymore. It's too harsh. Oh gosh, that movie bothers me. Why? Just because we were so ruthless to people.
Speaker 2:Again, Kev, I didn't do any of that shit. Oh, I know.
Speaker 2:I know, yeah, you know I don't take responsibility. I don't. I had nothing to do with it and again, I would have been the voice and I really would have. You know me, I'm a strong personality. No, I would. I would have been the voice going. This is fucking bullshit that we're doing this. This needs to stop. Yeah, this is bullshit. These are human beings. Okay, this, they're humans. They're not fucking animals. And you don't even treat animals this way. I wouldn't even treat animals this way. So I, yeah, I would be one of those guys and they'd probably get all mad at me, but I'd be like, hey, man, get your fucking house straight.
Speaker 3:You know, as I've gotten older I've become much more of a puss. I mean, if you can believe that. I mean I used to watch Faces of Death. I used to not have a problem watching I Spit on your Grave, the documentary called Sick, about a guy who has cystic fibrosis and jams a spike through his dick. You know I could watch that all day when I was younger. Now I can't watch it. I can't watch Dancing with Wolves because of the dog killings. Really, yeah, man.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, you know, no real wolves were killed, I know.
Speaker 3:And the horses too. I understand that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're, yeah those uh.
Speaker 3:trust me, kev, you're not watching any movie where an animal's harmed I think it's a tribute to the, to the filmmaker, though, that they make it look so real you know, like dangle and chained. I can't watch it because the brutality against humans you know. Same thing with dancing with wolves and the animals. They do such a great job as filmmakers that they make it real that I think I'm actually there.
Speaker 2:I'm going to just like give you the entire list, because I'm such a huge fan and have been since day one. You know, I'm the guy who actually watched Reservoir Dogs in the theater in 1992.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:You can call me Tuttle Tino Nice. Okay, you can call me tuttle tino nice. Uh, number one pulp fiction. I just remember watching that movie and I was like oh my god, this is unbelievable. I'm riveted, I am amazed at at not only the unbridled yet well-placed violence and how real it looks, but also the incredible dialogue, where we finally have a director who is writing dialogue that is realistic, instead of dialogue just to advance the plot.
Speaker 3:You know, another thing that I appreciate about Tarantino movies is the soundtracks. His music is absolutely brilliant. Love it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Absolutely love it. That's number one. Number two Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Kev. You've got to see that sometime soon. Number three Inglourious Bastards. Now, before those last two came along in recent years, Reservoir Dogs, that was my next one. Okay, I was just. I mean, brilliant stuff. Kill bill two kill bill.
Speaker 3:One shit, I forgot, you did kill bill yeah, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's why you know I I when, when I was uh on the uh text message group message and I was asking you know, um, uh, audrey and jonas's Kathy, who kind of looks like Uma, didn't have either Kill Bill on there and I'm like your doppelganger's there and you don't have that on. I think she regrets it a little bit, but maybe not.
Speaker 3:I don't know I have regret.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You got to think about it, you know. Then I have Django, unchained. Then Hateful Eight oh damn uh. Then I have jingo and chain, then hateful eight, oh damn. Hateful eight was a great movie. Yeah, hateful eight. And I don't know if you've seen this one kev death proof I have not seen that oh my god is I really enjoyed that movie.
Speaker 2:I really did. You know, and I know you're you're saying yourself well, that's way down the list you. How could you like that movie so much? It's Tarantino. He has not done a bad movie, not one, I mean. I've even revisited Jackie Brown after watching it for the first time 25 years ago or whatever, almost 30 years ago now. That's a brilliant movie.
Speaker 3:Is that a blaxploitation movie? Is that what? Yeah, that's jackie brown.
Speaker 2:Uh, pam pam greer. Right, but it's a love story, it's. It's. That's what it is between him and robert her and robert forrester. You know it's a great love story many of his movies are love stories.
Speaker 2:Just kind of a different take on a love story true romance is one of the great love stories of all time. Yeah, I maintain that is a great love story. Yeah, fiction, yeah, I mean, he's got that written in everywhere. Yeah, the only one I can think of that doesn't have that. I'm jangle unchained. Is that's all a love story? He's trying Django's trying to get back with his wife. Yes, yeah, I mean, that's all that is right there, you know? Yeah, I can't. You know I'm trying to find the love angle on hateful eight, but I can't.
Speaker 3:Inglourious bastards. It was the love of the Nazi who wanted to get with the Jew. Remember that aspect of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Nazi hero. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, god, that was a good movie. See, now I'm going to have to go and revisit these movies, cav, it's been a while.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have to see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 2:You should Cav, and let me know as soon as you've watched it. Let me know.
Speaker 3:And I'm going to try and give Pulp Fiction another chance now that I actually understand and get Tarantino.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's brilliant. All right, it is brilliant. Yeah, and then you give me your adjusted Tarantino list.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Whenever you can.
Speaker 3:I will.
Speaker 2:But you also have to. Eventually you have to go to Death Proof. You have to do it was that?
Speaker 3:was that like a cartoon? Was that based on a cartoon or something?
Speaker 2:no, it's, it's uh um, kurt russell is a maniacal, uh stuntman murderer. He'd get people in this death proof car, he'd get women in the death proof car and you know they don't have seat belts or anything like that and he would just do all and they would just get bounced around over in the death-proof car. They don't have seatbelts or anything like that, and he would just do all and they would just get bounced around over in the shell on the opposite side and he'd kill them. Oh wow, until the revenge from three ladies. And that's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:But it's a great movie, good dialogue Filmed in Austin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's another theme throughout all of tarantino's movies is revenge oh yeah oh, you got the romance, you got the revenge romance, revenge, killer dialogue and ultra violence.
Speaker 2:Tarantino, and he's only got one more movies that he's gonna do cab. You know that, right I? Did not know that yeah, tarantino said I'm only doing tens and he's done nine so do we know what the last one's going to be? Nobody knows anything yet oh okay initially people were a little freaked out because he was talking about redoing true romance and people thought that would be the 10th ah but he finally had to make a statement and go no, no, no, I'm not going to do true romance, and even if I did, it wouldn't be the 10th.
Speaker 2:You know, there's something else kind of brewing around in my head. I got to get it on paper.
Speaker 3:Cool. Yeah, I don't think true, romance needs to be redone, it's a brilliant?
Speaker 2:no, it was a great movie, you know. But you know it's his baby, of course, because it's the only movie where the characters him of course. So he has a vision of his head of how it should have been. You know, I'm just wondering if, if his vision had Christian Slater? Probably not, I mean probably not. Yeah, as Clarence no as Clarence, even though I think Christian Slater played a great Clarence.
Speaker 3:Oh, he did.
Speaker 2:And that's another one of our generation's actors that I thought was really really good and I was surprised that he didn't keep it up to this day.
Speaker 3:Well, he's going to play Dexter's dad in the in the new prequel.
Speaker 2:That will be really good.
Speaker 3:It will.
Speaker 2:I hope that we see that again, cause Christian Slater is a really good actor. Yes, how did he get that role? That's a, that's a plum role. That's a sweet role on a prequel.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's an important role. It's one of the most important roles. Uh, they weren't even going to do the series. And then he read the script and he's like, oh, I'm in. They're like, okay, we can green light this?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's great. Now, who is it? Jack dexter's childhood? Yes, who's playing young dexter? I don't know that. I don't know interesting, yep, interesting.
Speaker 2:And who's gonna? Who's playing the sister?
Speaker 3:that I don't know either okay that's a prime opportunity for two newcomers to get some serious spotlight, that's for sure. When is that coming out? They are shooting it now, okay, so I would imagine sometime in 2025.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm intrigued by that. Yeah, I'm intrigued by that because I may have to do a catch-up on Dexter, like you are.
Speaker 3:You won't be disappointed.
Speaker 2:No, I very much enjoyed that and that's one I want to see, because that's 15, 17, 18 years ago that that came out and I just want to see if my perspective has changed. That's why I love revisiting some of these movies that I watched a long time ago.
Speaker 3:I know Dexter's aged very well Good.
Speaker 2:All well, good, all right, cool. This has been a fun time. Kevin Kline, it's gone by so fast I can't even believe it. Man, you get me going on these tangents. It's your fault.
Speaker 3:It's totally my fault.
Speaker 2:You know we have all this stuff that I wanted to talk to Kevin about, but you know he gets me on these tangents to Kevin about. But you know he gets me on these tangents and we just have to save it for next week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, damn you Klein.
Speaker 2:But do us a favor if you would, please, please, like, follow, download, subscribe, give us a rating. You know, check out our merchandise on the Tubman Klein Facebook right here we got some great merchandise. But again, the podcast industry. For those of you unaware, it is run by downloads. So I know a lot of you, like most of you, probably 95 or more percent of you you just press play on your favorite podcast platform. If you could download it for us, we would really appreciate it. That's how they keep score in this business and, as you know, I'm tragically competitive and I'm obsessive, so I need downloads. If you would do that for me, that would be fantastic. Kevin Kline, you alluded to it. What is your other side project, your delicious Fuzzy Mike podcast have for us this week? You alluded to it before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're going to talk about my transformation. We're talking about how much of a difference my therapist made in me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and make sure, hey, you've got to follow Fuzzy Mike too. You know, subscribe, download all that stuff. Kevin Point has a really this is a high rated true crime and mental health podcast rated true crime and mental health podcast and he really has some great experts and great discussions that I think can be helpful to anyone. I don't care how square you are in the mind and how you think good to go you are, there's always a little tweak or two that you can do to get yourself on the correct side of everything, and Kevin Klein's fuzzy Mike podcast does that, at least for me, on a weekly basis thanks, buddy.
Speaker 3:Appreciate that. You got it pal. You know, we did not talk about the uh, the, the, the nfl uh and the, the woeful dallas cowboys, boohoo god, that's kev.
Speaker 2:That's awful, and you hear what jerry jones is now saying is it's because the sun got in their eyes, because they have the. If you haven't been to Cowboy Stadium they have. You know the roof is, is is glass and the light comes in and I guess CD lamb and a couple of the receivers couldn't see the ball.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So Jerry's like well, we'll just tear the whole damn thing down and build a new stadium.
Speaker 2:And then somebody goes. You know, we have just blinders, that we just press a button.
Speaker 3:Yeah right yeah, so not not a good day for uh for uh. Texas nfl teams texans last night. What the hell happened to them in the second half?
Speaker 2:hey, man, I don't know what happened. They were, they were leading and I was like, oh my god, they're gonna, they're gonna upset the lions. And then I, I went to bed, I asleep, I woke up this morning and you know, you let Detroit win that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know I'm a green Bay Packers fan. I need Detroit losing a little bit here that you do yeah. I thought, okay, that's my hometown Texans. Here they got. They got me a win for my Packers and I'm like, oh, you fuckers blew it. Yep so you tell me what happened, what exactly happened?
Speaker 3:Dude, when have you ever seen a team that throws five interceptions win a football game? They did it last night. Goff threw five interceptions and they still won. Their defense clamped down.
Speaker 2:They had two, two big interceptions of Stroud and they, they just uh, they started running the football I don't know if I said this on on our podcast, but I did tell dallas this, my son dallas, uh, and we were talking about it yesterday. I said at the beginning of the season that this year's super bowl this is august. I said kansas city chiefs versus detroit Lions. Kansas City 27, detroit 20.
Speaker 3:We're going to keep that in mind, because it looks like it could very well be.
Speaker 2:That was my pick, and that looks like the collision now, doesn't it?
Speaker 3:It does, although I don't think the Chiefs are the best team in the AFC right now.
Speaker 2:They just don't. I don't, kev. They are the scariest team that I've ever seen, for one reason, and one reason only I don't think they know how to lose.
Speaker 3:That's true.
Speaker 2:I don't think they understand. It doesn't compute with them.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:That they'll just do whatever it takes, whenever it takes, and sometimes that's the very last minute to win. Yeah, yeah, and you've heard this before uh, cav, when a team can continue to win ugly, those are the most dangerous teams.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are the most dangerous teams because it's a mental thing too they literally are never out of it. I don't care if you have a 17-point lead with four minutes to go, the Chiefs are not done yet.
Speaker 3:Not even close. They're not done yet?
Speaker 2:They're not done yet because before you know it they'll be within three, with a minute and a half left. And you know you have the ball and they have three timeouts still.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh and Mahomes.
Speaker 2:And Mahomes, and you're sweating, yeah, because there's a oh yeah, that is a dangerous team. I don't even remember in terms of clutch and I don't even remember in terms of never out of it or don't know how to lose. I don't even think the Patriots, the 49ers of our day, you know the Steelers of our day, when we were little kids. I don't think they had what the Kansas City Chiefs have now, you're right.
Speaker 3:I don't know if anybody has.
Speaker 2:I'll just say this If Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes stay together and Mahomes stays healthy, this is a team that, when it's all said and done, can win seven or eight Super Bowls.
Speaker 3:Well, that's his goal. He wants to be better than Brady.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And, and Kevin, all honesty, you know, I, I I just alluded to it. I mean, I'm a green Bay Packer fan. I was born and raised green Bay Packer fan and something that I've held all of my life is hey, we got 14 world championships. That's more than any other team. But the big one is we won five out of seven in the 60s. Nobody's ever going to get five out of seven ever. Now I'm like who? Because where are we at with them? Since Mahomes started? He got that one. Then they lost. Tell me in terms of the numbers, or you can show it right here. I don't think they can do five out of seven based on that first one, right, but they can do five out of seven now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2:And I would not count them out. I mean, they're doing it without their star players.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep, and I wouldn't, I would not count them out. I mean, they're doing it with, they're doing it without their star players. The injuries have just decimated them.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. As long as you got Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes and Mahomes is healthy that team is never out of it.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:And I got to give them credit. Their defense is the best it's been.
Speaker 3:No it's been. No, it's amazing, chris Jones is a beast.
Speaker 2:Their defense knows when to clamp down.
Speaker 3:And then, just by the time you see this on Wednesday's release, this will already have happened. But a big night in Florida history tonight. The Miami Dolphins if they lose. If the Miami Dolphins lose, then every single college and pro team in Florida will have lost in the same weekend.
Speaker 2:Has that ever happened?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:That is crazy Now, but you're not talking. All the small schools too, though.
Speaker 3:I'm talking every division. One college football team and every pro football team in Florida will have lost on the same weekend.
Speaker 2:Holy shit.
Speaker 3:Isn't that crazy.
Speaker 2:That is crazy man.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Dolphins got a little state pride going. Where do you find these little nuggets, man? That's crazy.
Speaker 3:That was on one of the post games yesterday. Actually, a Sunday night game, yeah, that's awesome. All right, we'll be looking for that tonight, okay, a Sunday night game?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome. All right, we'll be looking for that tonight. Okay, kevin Klein, that's enough. I don't want you to get burnt out on me. I don't want you looking at your watch and going this Tuttle thing is great in small doses Later, man.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode, and you can get more Cline on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay, fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
