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Ep #27: Hilarious Heisman, Family Fun, and Ethical Dilemmas

Tim Tuttle & Kevin Kline Episode 27

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Have you ever wondered what it feels like to win a Heisman Trophy as a fictional wide receiver? Tune in to this week’s episode of the Tuttle and Kline show, where we kick things off with laughs about early-bird mishaps and technical glitches. 

Tuttle recounts a fortunate turn of events in his trading ventures, setting a positive tone for the week. We dive into family moments with a candy draft and Tim’s pride in his son's football prowess. Plus, Tim shares the hilarious story of his digital Heisman victory in an EA college football game, all thanks to his son’s creativity.

Ever debated whether LeBron James or Michael Jordan holds the title of the greatest basketball player of all time? Join our engaging discussion as we compare legendary athletes from various sports, from the Holliday brothers in MLB to the iconic Manning siblings in football. We reflect on the monumental achievements of Wilt Chamberlain and the influence of coaches and brands on athlete development. You'll also hear a special shoutout to our dedicated fan from Northern Ireland, illustrating the remarkable global reach of our podcast.

What would you do if you overheard a scheme to trap someone into parenthood? We tackle this ethical conundrum after a poolside eavesdropping episode leads to a broader conversation about the dilemmas of intervening in such personal matters.

Reminisce with us about the Betamax versus VHS format wars and the quirks of past technologies. Tim reflects on his career choices, revealing a missed chance to be a floor trader and finding fulfillment in radio instead. We wrap up with a spirited chat on football strategy, rookie quarterbacks like Bo Nix, and a whimsical wishlist for gold medal perks. Join us for a mix of humor, nostalgia, and thought-provoking discussions.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Tuttle and Klein show.

Speaker 2:

Calvin, what's going on?

Speaker 1:

Hold on hold on hold on one second.

Speaker 3:

Calvin Should probably be like completely ready?

Speaker 2:

No, it's all right, we were a little early.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's right, you are a little early. Fuck you then. Not out of your makeup trailer yet. No, no, just uh, not not doing the uh test on the system to make sure I'm ready. How you doing, man? Good buddy, how are you? I'm uh, I'm fantastic. I lucked out this morning how so I uh?

Speaker 3:

I uh wanted to reverse my position. I was initially short. I thought the market was going to go down. My uh, my reading was we're going to go down, so I'm short. And then suddenly we had a burst up and I'm like, okay, they're gonna, they're gonna go high. Now the institution's gonna pull this thing higher. So I had a stop, thought I put in a stop in reverse order to go higher. But I actually added to my short and it worked out. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm thinking, oh, I'm losing money. I'm looking at my P and L and I'm like I am making good money. Oh, my God, I did that. So I immediately just liquidated everything and I'm like, blessing, I'm out there you go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it usually doesn't work out that way. When you have a misclick or a human error, it usually is against you and a very bad thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, the lady luck is smiling on you today, brother.

Speaker 3:

That's it. It's going to be a great week, Kevin Klein.

Speaker 2:

We were at a distillery in downtown Kansas City over the weekend and the guy sitting next to me just struck up a conversation and he's a global sales investor and he's gone to dinner three times with Jamie Dimon. Nice, yeah, this guy's pretty, pretty big time. I looked him up on LinkedIn.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, nice.

Speaker 2:

I asked him. I said how powerful is Dimon? He goes one of the most powerful people in the world.

Speaker 3:

Did he give you any secrets or any insight or anything like that?

Speaker 2:

Tim. Honestly, he could have given me all these kind of secrets, and I'm too stupid to know what the hell it means.

Speaker 3:

Well, just press record and send it to me. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'll decipher it for you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you very much.

Speaker 3:

Hey, Kev, something really good. I had the boys this weekend.

Speaker 2:

How are the boys and how was the candy draft?

Speaker 3:

The candy draft was good Kit Kat and Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.

Speaker 2:

Those are pretty much top picks all the time right.

Speaker 3:

All the time there was no, I mean blue chip, I mean those are five stars, right, you know, yeah, even Mel Kiper said, yeah, that's a first pick right there, that's right. But you know, first off, dallas is playing football. He started football, eighth grade football. Now, yeah, nice, and they're putting them at tight end because he's tall, he's big, he is, he is very big he's. He's a tall, one of the biggest kids. He's got giant hands and I had to go get him some cleats and you know, he's got my size feet in eighth grade, and you know. But he's also really into football and I don't know if you've heard about it or not For the first time in many years, eas has released a college football game.

Speaker 1:

Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 3:

And this thing is unbelievable, kev. It's got the NIL in it, it's got recruiting in it. I mean, it is A to Z, and it was so cute. He said well, dad, I'm going to make you a player, you're going to be a player. So I'm Tim Tuttle from Indiana and I'm a high school five star, you know, and I'm a receiver. And then you know all these, all these, I get all these offers and you know whether I'm going to play or not as a freshman. What kind of offense they had. And I said, yeah, if I'm going to play in wide receiver, I want an air raid school, a school where we go to the air, and I want to play as a freshman.

Speaker 2:

So does it offer schools for you to go to, then?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely A bunch of them. And I committed to USC a Trojan, oh, wow, ok. And he plays the whole season, the entire season, as me, a wide receiver number 88 for the USC Trojans. Nice, kev. I'm so honored to tell you that I not only won the Heisman Trophy as a freshman with these record-breaking stats. I'm going to show you right here. You can put this on the screen. Kev, this is me. This is the closest rendition of what he could come up with in terms of making my avatar me, you know. But yeah, look at those statistics right there. You know over 5,000 yards in one season, receiving, yeah, 50 touchdowns. And I was oh, oh, oh. By the way, uh, usc, we won the national championship.

Speaker 2:

We beat Alabama in the national championship game because of the strength of their 88 wide receiver.

Speaker 3:

Right, exactly Number 88 from Indiana, tim Tuttle, you know. But the only problem is is he had to change my height. He goes dad, you can't be your height and be really good in this game. Uh, a deep threat and everything like that. He said you got to be like smaller, I got, so I got to make you a 510 and I was like oh, man really yeah, so he made I was 510, 188 pounds. 510 is a possession receiver. That's what I was saying, that's what I saw. I thought he goes on.

Speaker 2:

He's like trust me dad, I know what I'm doing. 510 is not a go up and get it and that's what kind of thing that's? That was my thing go up and get it. Apparently it worked out, though.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you're a heisman trophy winner I'm a heisman trophy winner, a national champion, kev. Every every receiving record in the history of the ncaa broken, shattered. I mean look at these stats right here, kev, that's just that's.

Speaker 2:

That's rewriting the books right there, buddy.

Speaker 3:

I know, I know. So you know what I did after and this is where we left it for the next time he comes over. I have hit the transfer portal to find out my value in NIL that's right and I have transferred to Auburn. I'm an Auburn Tiger War Eagle and I'm making about seven or eight million dollars a year.

Speaker 2:

That's the way it goes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you win a Heisman in the national championship and it's a bidding war.

Speaker 2:

As a freshman. As a freshman.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so you know I I may probably gonna leave after my junior year, but I'm gonna cash in these next two years why would you leave after your junior year if you're making seven, eight million in college?

Speaker 2:

exactly bro that's that.

Speaker 3:

You're gonna see more of that. I think you're gonna see more that. Hey, you know I'm just going to stay. I mean look at these chicks?

Speaker 2:

yeah, well, or why would I want to risk getting injured at a higher rate of speed? Played game when I'm already making? I'm, I'm liquid 16 mil. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3:

yeah, and some of them are getting paid that much. You know you're. You're talking about 18, 19, 20 year, 20-year-olds getting five, six, seven, eight million a year. There's no hurry.

Speaker 2:

No not at all.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, I'm going to milk it for a few years. I may even stay all four, but I got to give Dallas credit. He has the skills the video gaming skills to make me a Heisman Trophy winner and a national champion.

Speaker 2:

Two things that kind of crossed my mind when we were talking about that. You were talking about being a first-round draft pick. I read something yesterday. You know who? Jackson Holiday is right in Major League Baseball. Yes, okay, he was the number one pick last year and he's already up in the pros playing for Baltimore. His brother, ethan, is a senior in high school this year and they say he's going to be the number one pick in 2025. There's only been one other brother combination in the history of American sports to be number one selection one year. Number one selection the next year. Who are they? Is it the next year? Not the next year, but another number one.

Speaker 3:

Oh gosh, I'm going to give me a second here, because I know I can do this.

Speaker 2:

I know you can too.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead and play the Jeopardy music. I can do this. I can do this. One brother, number one, and then the other, eli Manning and Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2:

Bingo. That is it, yep Number one. They're the only brother combo in the history of American sports to be drafted Both.

Speaker 3:

Number one Awesome, yeah, I don't think Archie. I know Archie was a first round pick for the Saints, you know way back when, but I don't think he was the first pick. No, and Kevin being the guy he is, he'll have that in notation on the screen below right now, exactly where Archie Manning went, you knows, or early 70s or whenever he started playing.

Speaker 2:

You think LeBron's pissed about that, that Bronny wasn't better to be a number one pick?

Speaker 3:

I don't think he cares. Okay, yeah, I just don't. At this point, I don't think so. I mean, it's one thing to netpo the shit out of your kid and put pressure on him, but it's another thing to expect your kid to be as good as you, especially when you're one of the.

Speaker 2:

He's probably one of the top five, don't you think? I mean a lot of people think he's number one you know it's funny.

Speaker 3:

You should say that maybe we can get into this right now, kev. Um, we were talking, we've been talking and you know, and, and pretty much the assumption is that we've made or at least I've made is Michael Jordan is not only the greatest basketball player in history, he's the greatest athlete in history, oh, okay, in terms of what he has done and how dominant he was. And I know you can throw the Gretzky's in there, you could throw the Tiger Woods in there, you could throw the Brady's in there, if you want, you know. But Michael Jordan is insane on another level in my opinion. So is LeBron the best? No, he's not, and there's nothing he can do at this point to ever match up to Michael. And that's all the eye test. I mean Kevin, first off anybody that's under the age of 30, and you think, you think you can go on record and say LeBron is better than Michael. You don't know you're fucking talking about, because you didn't see it Right.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, no, we got to see him.

Speaker 3:

Whereas you and I and people that are older, that got to see both, can make a more educated decision and I'm sorry, there's just some things that michael used to do that, uh, lebron or nobody else can do, period. Uh, in terms of you, athletic in the air, type stuff to intensity in, I'm going to win this fucking game, no matter what.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, if he wanted to win the game, he was going to win the game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly. So that'll never be touched. Now again, lebron deserves his accolades in terms of lifetime achievement and the numbers that he puts up career-wise and being as good as he is at his age. I give him that, yeah, gladly give him that he's taken over Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in that area. I agree, but no, he is not. And in all honesty, kev, you would probably really have to put him at a third, because Wilt Chamberlain is a solid second.

Speaker 2:

Well, a lot of people forget about that era, you know, because Michael Jordan just completely overtook the game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but you know, wilt Chamberlain was so dominant and he had 100 points in the game. 100 points in the game and he finished a season averaging 50. Now him and Michael ended up with the same career average 30 points a game. They're the only two NBA players in history to be 30 points a game 30 a game For his entire career and Michael has two years in there with the Wizards, where he wasn't hitting the numbers, but he still stayed above that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So if he would have retired, if you had stayed retired after the bulls, it'd be like 33, 34 points a game for an entire career.

Speaker 2:

That's nuts.

Speaker 3:

That isn't so well, kev. You remember when he was a rookie? It was after he ever. He averaged 37 a game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

You just couldn't, they couldn't stop.

Speaker 2:

No, well, because they'd never seen anything like it.

Speaker 3:

The only thing that stopped him before he got to the pros was Dean Smith. He didn't want anybody like completely taking over the offense.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

So he throttled Michael down.

Speaker 2:

Because you often hear that. I mean we heard it in our career. You know, nobody's bigger than the brand.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, exactly. You know what?

Speaker 2:

The brand could be a lot bigger if somebody was bigger than the brand.

Speaker 3:

Exactly the brand could be a lot bigger if somebody was bigger than the brand Exactly. Yeah, don't put limitations on it just for ego's sake, because you know you don't want somebody getting so big and unfortunately you did see that a little bit. But anyway, cap, the reason I'm going into that is I got a direct message from Andrew. He's one of our listeners, northern Ireland. Okay, he listens from Northern Ireland, drinks the Guinness Great guy, big fan of the podcast, listens to every minute of every episode, always reaches out to me and weighs in on some things and gives me feedback and everything like that, and he actually had a question for me that I think you're more qualified to answer. Okay, is Messi theordan of soccer? Now, my initial take kev, and this probably because I I'm, I grew up with it. Pele, nobody will ever touch pele. Look at his highlights. But I don't know, maybe I don't have enough information because I'm not that in tuned to his football, our soccer.

Speaker 2:

I mean we have the advantage, like you say, of being able to see Pele, who played for Brazil and then the New York Cosmos. He was unlike anything. He was the Michael Jordan of soccer, because nobody had seen anybody with that kind of skill before. If you're comparing eras, nobody could touch Pele. Messi is probably the GOAT. I think it's Messi.

Speaker 1:

And I think it's pretty clear.

Speaker 3:

Messi is the GOAT. He is the all-time football GOAT.

Speaker 2:

Yep, yeah, Just because of what I mean. He pretty much single-handedly led Argentina to the World Cup the last year or two years ago. Whatever it was All the scoring records that he has. People can say Cristiano Ronaldo has a better touch, but I've seen Messi kick balls that defy physics. It's just nuts what he can do with a ball.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, all right. So your eye test is like he. He even had more skills than Pele yeah, he did.

Speaker 2:

I mean the game evolves. You know how the game evolves, every game evolves, you know, I mean it's, it's. I mean it's kind of crazy that people want to compare LeBron with Michael Jordan because the eras were different. You you know, but yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, the fact that Michael is still that far above LeBron, and the game has evolved and the athlete is different, and everything like that says something about Michael Jordan. Yeah, you don't think about that, you know because imagine if Michael now had modern training, modern nutrition, modern all that. Yeah, because he ate steak before every game.

Speaker 2:

And probably smoked a cigar.

Speaker 3:

Probably smoked a cigar and you know, all he cared about is hey man, I can't wait. What's my tea time in the morning?

Speaker 2:

Oh, he would play 18 holes before a game.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, he'd play 18 holes. I mean, imagine if he just completely zoned in. Yeah, because, he still liked his leisure, which you know. If you're making that much money, you want to enjoy it. Oh, for sure, yeah, okay, so you say Messi, now is Pele two, or has anybody else jumped Pele?

Speaker 2:

Well, like I said, ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, I mean I've always seen Ronaldo as kind of a pretty boy, kind of he he's got great offensive skills. Don't see him much on the back end, but Messi's just all around. Man, messi, just he, he can, he can do everything.

Speaker 3:

OK, yeah, ok. So I see, and, kev, that was my initial thought on Tom Brady, before you know, you know, he had ring number five, and then six, and then seven. I thought, okay, the reason why you like him, like he's the pretty boy, and, and, and then you realize, okay, he's not just a pretty boy, that guy's a fucking assassin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, and, and especially in in soccer. Uh, the greatest of all time doesn't necessarily have to be the best scorer. Turns out that they are. But how can you get your other players involved in the game?

Speaker 1:

What he's able to do, not just scoring goals, but setting up his teammates is pretty remarkable, and that's a difference between him and Ronaldo.

Speaker 3:

And that's the thing I like about Kaitlyn Clark. Everybody talks about her scoring her or shooting or three-pointing man, she dishes it really good. Yeah, she dishes. I mean, she knows how to make a pass. And Kev being a guard. When I, you know, I play guard I always had appreciation for good passing. I was always a fan of magic and John Stockton and then, of course, white Chocolate himself I'm forgetting the guy's name, a white guy played for Sacramento and a couple other teams, I can't remember his name, man. Anyway, I've always appreciated the good pass, oh for sure, the good behind-the-back pass or the you know, or the good alley-oop or something like that. So I like that, I like that aspect, I like the you know players that can do that.

Speaker 2:

Do you realize how, on the same page, you have to be for a no-look pass to go to your teammate? Perfectly, that's practice right there.

Speaker 3:

that's knowing exactly where your teammates are well, you know, when I played some ball, I played a little street like that, you know, with with the uh no looks and and the behind the backs and all that stuff, and my uh alert to my teammates was always like pay the fuck attention, be ready, and I'll make you famous. I'll make you famous. And that's what I did, man, because my thing was I would try to penetrate inside the lane and use a move because I had some leaping ability to try to get a move and a nice quick layup or a short shot. But if it wasn't there, man, I was going to do something last second and if you're paying attention, you're going to be, you're going to have the fucking ball right in your hand and it's just you in the basket.

Speaker 2:

you know what I'm saying I know exactly what you're saying, so that's what that's.

Speaker 3:

That was my thing. So, yeah, look at me, look at, I'm like. We're like discussing some of the greatest ever and I'm injecting myself. What an asshole.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean it. It, but that's how you can relate to it, because you've had, you have the experience. You're not saying that you're the greatest of all time. You're saying this is how I can relate to it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's how I relate to it. I cannot remember the white guy. White chocolate, kev, that's going to kill me. I know Kev will look up white chocolate and he'll put it underneath there and I'll feel much better about it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, there, he is right there. Oh, thank you. Who can forget?

Speaker 3:

you. He is the best Kev show. A quick highlight too Look at the passing prowess man. This is what I'm talking about. The no-look stuff, you know, I used to do that shit too. The behind the back, you know, shake it behind the back, sometimes even between the leg, and then a quick flip, you know. So I can definitely. Yeah, that's it. Congratulations to him. I can't believe I forgot his name.

Speaker 2:

Oh, who could forget him?

Speaker 3:

Kev, you know it's with school starting. It's not as crowded at the pool anymore. Right, it's not as crowded at the pool anymore.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

On the weekends, so you can really start to like overhear conversations and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 3:

So I'm at the pool. I take Timmy and Dal to the pool.

Speaker 2:

Don't have the noise factor.

Speaker 3:

No, it's much more calm and we're sitting pretty near a couple of 20-something ladies. They're there together, they're friends, okay, and one of them was talking about her new boyfriend and she's so excited. He's a really, really great guy and she finally thinks that she found the one and he's very successful and she's very proud of him and all that stuff. And then things started to get a little dark and you know some people, when they start having a conversation that you don't want people to overhear, they usually tone it down. This lady did not want to tone down her volume, so I'm picking up everything she's saying. And she's basically talking about how she's going to try to trap him into getting pregnant. No, because because he's so successful and you know, you know she wants to make sure that she, she gets this, uh, this scholarship. I guess that's her career goal. Wow, you know, it's that that's her career goal. I guess some people have that as a. You remember when we were in um, we were in college, um, there were some majors there, some females.

Speaker 3:

Their major was mrs yeah, exactly yeah, yeah, just to find their guy. Remember that, I remember that and I even gave Jonas that warning too. I said, well, you know you're smart, you're in a high paying field being a computer guy and artificial intelligence. I said be aware of the MRSs out there. And he's like all right, whatever, okay, cool. Anyway, and I apologize if that I don't.

Speaker 3:

I don't mean to sound misogynistic, but you know that that was a thing and is a thing. Well, obviously you're hearing, and there she's going into detail where it's like you know when he, when, when he's wanting to pull out, she's grabbing, she's, has his legs around him and it's pulling him in. Wow, yeah, they're going. She's going into detail. I'm like I'm right, fucking here. I'm right here, didn't care, did you say anything? No, I'm just listening, I'm just, you know, I'm looking to make sure that you know dal and timmy aren't listening to this. Ah, yeah, I, I didn't want them to hear it, but you know, they were far off in the pool. They're throwing the football with each other and then, uh, cab, after a while he came to the pool, oh.

Speaker 2:

And you pulled him aside and said hey, dude well, you know they, they took off.

Speaker 3:

Uh, I guess they wanted to use the bathroom or something like that. And you know they, just it's just a short walk to their their place, instead of using the community bathroom, which god only knows what the fuck has been going on in there. You know how that is. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh, and I'm just struggling with myself. I'm like, I'm like I'm wrestling with the whole idea of whether I should tell him that. Hey, man, there's a trap being set bro yeah so I'm just struggling with that.

Speaker 3:

I'm like, you know I'm going through the whole thing. Would I tell me what I want to know? I mean, I'm thinking about all of my exes, you know, I'm thinking about Taryn and Laura and Erica and everything like that. If they were saying the same thing about me what I want to know and Well, before I get into it, what would you do if you were me?

Speaker 2:

Well, immediately what came to mind is you can't really say anything because you live there. Now, if you're just visiting and you know you're not going to be living there, then yeah, you probably do want to say something, because I mean, that's that that alters the rest of your life, you know. And if he's not ready, then I would just I think I would say something if I didn't live there. The reason I say if I didn't live there is because if you say something, those girls see you say something. They live there, you live there. That could be a.

Speaker 3:

That could be a hold on, hold on a second. Let me throw this in there. I think he's the one cause I'd seen him before and I never saw them. Oh, okay, I think he's the one that lives there and they're just there because, you know, she's the new girlfriend and that's her friend.

Speaker 2:

Brother, he's a neighborhood brother. I mean, yeah, he gotta have his back.

Speaker 3:

Okay. Yeah, I didn't say anything. Okay, I finally decided, hey, you know what Fuck him, my relationships have been dumpster fires. I was. I finally decided hey, you know what Fuck him, my, my relation, my relationships have been dumpster fires. Welcome to the club, sucker.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but but if you see him in the parking lot, you know the next couple of days, next couple of weeks, would you?

Speaker 3:

I don't know, I do, I do not know, I I.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I know this isn't any of my business, but I mean, your girlfriend was talking really loudly at the pool. She was not using discretion at all, so I overheard this conversation. I thought maybe you might want to know.

Speaker 3:

And then he'd be like well, you're trying to fuck her.

Speaker 2:

No because she wants to have a kid. No, because she wants to have a kid.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. And then I would say when you're doing it and you want to pull out, does she squeeze you in with the legs? Yeah, I heard everything.

Speaker 2:

There you go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I don't know, cam, the last thing I want is to be the guy that breaks somebody up. Yeah, and who knows? She could just be the guy that breaks somebody up, yeah, and who knows, she could just be posturing with her girlfriend.

Speaker 2:

Could be.

Speaker 3:

She may like really be into him and she's just trying to be all cool with her girlfriend.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, I don't, I don't know, I'm torn on it, I don't know what to. I literally struggled over that. You know, those girls were gone for a good 20, 30 minutes and I'm just back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and then finally I saw them and they started coming in and I'm like, okay, I didn't get a chance.

Speaker 2:

Wow, it is an interesting dilemma, but she brought you into the conversation by talking so loudly. It wasn't like you were leaning in.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it wasn't. I mean, I was actually worried that my sons, who were, you know, a good 50, 60 yards away, were going to hear it.

Speaker 2:

But boy, what a good lesson for them.

Speaker 3:

Oh true, you know, don't worry, they'll get. They'll get the MRS major conversation from dad and when the time comes, dad can tell you about this all day long, but guess what?

Speaker 2:

You're hearing it firsthand.

Speaker 3:

And I just want to say this you, you know, just to be equal and not sound misogynistic at all, I am sure there are a lot of guys that go to college that, uh, you know, oh, they see a lady, she's going to be a, you know, med student or something like that, or you know, I'm saying that that probably happens the other way too, right? No, no no that never fucking happens.

Speaker 2:

No, guys are like there's one, there's the next one, there's the next one.

Speaker 3:

No, they don't do that. What you speak of Tuttle is alien to this civilization.

Speaker 2:

what you speak of Tuttle is alien to this civilization and you're talking to a guy who would be a prime candidate to be the MR degree. Yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 3:

No, we were there to slay. Hey Kev, I like to do this like once a year, like to go through my stuff and just throw out as much as I can. That's my thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it's awesome, it feels great.

Speaker 3:

I hate clutter, I do. I hate clutter. And I was this old box. That is like I'm surprised I hadn't got to it during another purge in years past. But I found in this box some old Betamax tapes, Really yeah, I mean it was like movies like Terminator, Bachelor Party, Romancing, the Stone shit from the early 80s.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, stuff that your dad would be proud that you still have. It was on Beta.

Speaker 3:

They were my dad's.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, all right.

Speaker 3:

Now for those of you unaware, kev. I think you're aware of this. My father, fred Tuttle, had this Betamax Crusade.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm alluding to.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, back in the early 80s. I mean, he did the research, he checked it all out. Our first machine we bought was not VHS, that's the big tape, less quality. He's like, hey, betamax, smaller tape, more efficient, and it's higher quality. And, kev, you remember that the whole world just decided for some reason well, we're just going to do VHS and I don't know how that happened. Is there any theory on how that happened? The bigger and the clunkier one out over the smaller, better, higher quality, more efficient.

Speaker 2:

Probably because of expense Number one to have higher quality stuff means that it's probably more expensive to manufacture.

Speaker 3:

All right. So the thing is, is my dad hung on to it for a long time? So, but the thing is, is my dad hung on to it for a long time? You know he was, you know, years past, couple, two, three, and you know we're the only ones with a beta machine. And my dad's like, hey, they're going to come around. Okay, everybody's going to come around. We're right on this, all right. You know we got kids hearing about us having a Betamax. They're making fun of us. You know I'm like, hey, dad, we're getting heat out there. Man, we got to change over. You got to fight the bullet and get a vhs. And my dad, my dad was just no man. He like made it his. Uh, he made it his, uh, uh, you know, last stand, you know he made it his waterloo well, you know.

Speaker 2:

look what's coming back around now Hi-Fi vinyl recordings, you know, because they are superior quality.

Speaker 3:

See, and that's the funny thing, I mean, he continued that for a while we would visit, there was a beta-only store and that's the only place my dad would go, and these guys had like five customers yeah, only place my dad would go. And these guys had like five customers, yeah. And then we, you know, we started to realize it was probably because, you know, the owners of it were a little, uh, italian, if you will. We realized this it was, it was probably a money laundering operation, and I started telling my dad that I'm like, dad, it doesn't make sense. They only have five customers. We're one of them. You know, every time we go out there, they're breaking bread, drinking red wine and eating pasta. And you know, they suddenly stopped talking about what they were talking about. When we walk in, you know, dad, I don't know, this is getting a little strange, dad, and my dad's, like you've watched the Godfather too much, just calm down. I said, dad, this is a money laundering operation. There's probably bodies in the back.

Speaker 2:

Probably so.

Speaker 3:

And then he finally broke down. You know how he broke down.

Speaker 2:

No how.

Speaker 3:

We bought him a VHS for Christmas. Yeah, all the kids got together. We were tired of getting the heat, we were tired of getting made fun of. We'd have our friends over and they would be laughing at these little tapes that we're putting in.

Speaker 2:

We can only watch five movies, Dad.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, the studios aren't even making them beta anymore. I missed the breakfast club. Yeah, poor Fred, and that was it All.

Speaker 2:

Right, kev, let's do our are you going to keep them?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, yeah, man, they were. They were my dad's tapes. Exactly, they were my dad's tapes. So yeah, I just you know, I I saw him. I had a good laugh Like pop member, this shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Um sure, yeah, man, I can't throw that out.

Speaker 2:

No, and and I mean I don't live near you, but I wouldn't let you.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, kevin Klein. Yeah, um, I love this. Uh, let's talk about, uh, our new feature. Let's be honest, shall we?

Speaker 1:

Be honest, be honest.

Speaker 3:

Kev, we'd love you to start. What do you have?

Speaker 2:

Well, it's interesting that we were kind of talking about this earlier, because this was my be honest for you and it comes kind of on last week With your success outside of radio. Now, be honest, do you regret going into radio?

Speaker 3:

do I regret? Oh, kev, I've thought about that a lot like, um, you know I, you know, I see how jonas is already very successful, uh, you know, using his brain, tech wise, computer science and and AI and everything like that. And I wonder if I because I I'm a reasonably I know a lot of you think, well, you're an idiot, tim. I just sound like an idiot. I'm actually pretty smart if I misused it. You know what I'm saying. So you know, sometimes I think that, and I think you know if I'd have gone in another direction, or you know if I'd have been trading for the last 20 years, because you know that's when I really started getting intrigued, by 2003. That's a long time ago.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

When I started getting into trading when we were in Birmingham Kev, you know, I started trading options and everything like that and I just wonder if I would have focused on that, you know, where could I have been right now?

Speaker 2:

right, but but well, and look on the personal side of things how your life would be different oh, yeah, yeah I mean, you wouldn't have known me which that.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's the thing. We were already together for seven years doing morning radio when I discovered trading. But there may have ended up being a conversation where it's like, hey, kev, I'm tired of waking up, tired of working for someone, tired of bullshit, I'm going to bail. There may have been that conversation, but you know, when it's all said and done, no, I wouldn't change a thing. Okay, we had a good time, we had fun.

Speaker 2:

We had an awesome time.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was a lot of fun, it was rewarding. You know the comments and the messages we get about how people people enjoy our banter not only now when we have the podcast, but throughout our radio career, has been very worthwhile. We've made a difference in people's lives in terms of raising large amounts of money for charity. You know we made our mark. I mean, we were, we were, uh, the morning radio guys for the biggest country music radio station in america, for you know what?

Speaker 3:

a five to seven year period of time in the 2010s. Yeah, you know that that's worthwhile. That's. That's a big deal, oh for sure. So so, yeah, you can.

Speaker 3:

And the funny thing is Kev after my freshman year in college, I had an opportunity Check this out. I had an opportunity. I had a friend of mine who knew, like my quick math skills, that I can do figures very quickly in my head, right, and he said you know, my dad is a floor trader at the Chicago Board of Trade in Chicago. You know the commodities futures. He is a big time guy in the commodities and he said you would be perfect. And this is when I'm still 18. After my freshman year in college, I said he said he wanted me to do it, but I don't have the quick math and you do. And I told him about you and he's wondering if you want to, hey, put school on hold for a little bit and come up and be his floor clerk and he would teach you how to trade futures, be a floor trader. And you've seen, you know what I mean by floor trader trading places that are on the floor.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah. It's not a very long career.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, it's so stressful, yeah, but he said that you would have been perfect for that. You're tall, you're big, you can do figures. People would look at you. You have that leadership quality. He said you would be perfect for this and probably one of those guys that makes millions within a couple of years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you also like it's an adrenaline rush and you like that too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it's an adrenaline rush and it appeals to your competitive nature and all that stuff. And I thought about it for a while and I talked to my dad about it a while and he said, yeah, you would be perfect at that. And then I started looking at back. Then we didn't have the internet this is still mid late 80s so I did some research, I went to the library, yeah that's what we did.

Speaker 3:

And got some encyclopedias about floor trading, the Chicago Board of Trade and everything like that, and I noticed one thing wrong with it.

Speaker 2:

And that is.

Speaker 3:

There were no women in that crowd at all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and here I'm at.

Speaker 3:

Ball State and it's three to one, women to guys. I'm like I think that, in all honesty, God, I'm so fucking stupid that that was the reason why I turned down this offer.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

And I just wonder what could have been, because I listened to a podcast, a guy named Anthony Crudelli or whatever his name is. He's about my age, he was a floor trader and at the time I would have been a floor trader, and this guy has just made tens of millions, hundred million dollars, and I just think about that you know. But what's done is done.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I mean, you can't go back in time, but I was just thinking. I was wondering that last week, after you were talking about the success with the trading, I'm like I wonder if he regrets.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, no. I probably wish I would have done it sooner. Like you know, there was a you know, the last, the last four years or so of of our radio career. It wasn't the best sweet.

Speaker 2:

I can only take credit for three of those yeah, well, you know what I'm saying yeah, I mean oh yeah, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 3:

It just it wasn't the best situation. I shouldn't have been there. I probably, you know, there were. There were times I you know I was I was gonna leave in 2018. I was about to okay, um, because, yeah, in all honesty, it's just not natural you being, you working with, you know, your ex-wife it was, that was, it was very awkward and uh, it was, it was something that wore on me and I was about to retire. I was, I was about, I mean, I literally was, you know, um, I came in one day and I was just going to tell you I was going to say, hey, man, I'm done, okay, and I just I decided that we had a good show that day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because you're not concerned about having a bad show or a good show, it's just. I'm here, we're going to have a show and there's no pressure.

Speaker 3:

I can remember that I think it was somewhere around, I want to say, october of 2018. And I was just like, hey, man, after the show I'm telling Kevin I'm going to retire and I'll do a little goodbye type thing, and everything like that, and then I'll just fade off into the sunset. And I was going to do this. I was already ready. I had an algorithm ready. I was going to do this and I was going to roll right into it. But that day we had a really fucking good show and I decided not to just from that day that show.

Speaker 2:

That's the, that's the radio, gods, that's the universe, telling you that you know you're you're still supposed to do it.

Speaker 3:

But you know, I and then, when you were going to retire, I was close man. I was like I'm just going to do it and I decided not to because I didn't want to steal your goodbye.

Speaker 2:

I was not concerned about a goodbye at all. You know that you guys had to convince me to say it on the air. I was going to do the cactus jack man See ya, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So I didn't do it at that time. And then, when, you know, johnny Chang left, I immediately thought to myself hey, man, they're going to bring somebody new in and I'm not their guy, I'm Johnny Chang's guy, they're the. Whoever they bring in, they have to get rid of me so they can blaze their own way. So you know, but I didn't, because at that time this was February of 2022, I'm three months from Jonas graduating high school and that child support payment done, you know, uh, just hang out for three months. And it's so funny, I, I, uh, I made that, that last payment to Kathy, and three days later they told me that we're not renewing.

Speaker 2:

That's when they pulled the plug. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Three days later.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

But at that time, after I made that last payment, I'm like you know, cause I didn't the new owner and we got a new manager coming in. I mean, this guy was cheese ball and we'd we did not see eye to eye in terms of what was quality content. You know he likes parody songs and lame 80 shit and I'm more of an observational comedian. You know he likes parody songs and lame 80s shit and I'm more of an observational comedian. You know I was thinking to myself. You know what's a way out. You know I should get out. This is the time to do it and I just didn't do it and I gave them the shot to put the bullet in me before I could walk. You know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, one of the things that put me over the top on it was, uh, the people who were getting out outside of our building, the vps and the presidents of the company oh getting out I'm like, yeah, these people are lifers, man, something's going on yeah, when kim left and uh, bill hendrick, bill, yeah, bill left, and then mark left, yeah, I that should that.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I knew it, man, they know something about this new ownership that we don't know. They're not telling us. I should get out of here too. And yeah, I just didn't, man, and I regret it a little bit because I can't go back. You know what I'm saying? Because they put a bullet in me. I'm like the exiled child.

Speaker 2:

Maybe in Houston, but I got an email from Rob Babin the other day. Shut your mouth, yeah. What did he say? I just looked him up on LinkedIn and said hey, I don't know if you've heard about Tim's and my podcast, but if you want to take a listen to it, you should. And he emailed me back and he goes oh, that's good stuff, man. He goes you guys interested in doing anything? And I'm like, if the right offer came, I haven't heard back from him, so yeah, oh, that's funny because Chris Egan checked out my story.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, at the same time. Yeah, he checked out my story on Instagram.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there you go.

Speaker 3:

It was probably too much for them. So they're like these guys have gone way too far over the edge.

Speaker 2:

Now no, these guys have gone way too far over the edge now. No, they know just as well as anybody else in the industry. As far as the profanity goes, this is light compared to what goes on when the microphones aren't on. Oh my God, radio people have the sailor's mouth to end all sailor's mouths, so we just know how to turn it on and off.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, you didn't hear one swear word from me for 26 years. Yeah, we're making up for lost time. Exactly these are the things we've always wanted to say. Kev, I got to be honest for you, yes, and I got to thinking about this when you inserted the fast walking clip in last week's episode. Uh-huh, and in looking at this clip right here and us talking about how crazy it is that that's an Olympic sport and softball and baseball is not, etc. And that's just weird stuff right there, that stuff, I mean, look at it. That's weird. Nobody walks like that. Yeah, nobody walks like that. It's just. Can you imagine looking somebody in the eyes who's fast walking?

Speaker 2:

Dude, I saw somebody walking like that yesterday and they were tweaking.

Speaker 3:

I would rather look at you while you're taking a shit than looking at you while you're fast walking. And, tevvin, it just hit me and I didn't do any investigation on it, but you know, maybe you will in the crawl here. I honestly think it's my theory that fast walking was invented by racist white people to even the playing field. I mean, you know, in the 60s, early 70s, it's like, oh man, we can't jump as high as them, we can't, we're not as fast as them. I mean, we got to be able to do something here. We stay in the Olympics and stay competitive and just one guy goes hey, I know, I, I got an idea.

Speaker 3:

They can't out walk us I mean that's gotta be it, and and you can look up the history of fast walking I would be willing to bet that it was invented by two or three white guys that got cut from the basketball team.

Speaker 2:

Hang on, let me look right now. Oh yeah, there it is, white guys revenge.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, and now because of two or three racist white guys back in the 60s or the 70s. Now we have to watch that shit on TV and don't get any warning from NBC when they're going to throw to it.

Speaker 2:

Because they know if they warn you, you're not going to watch it. Speedwalking, bullshit, bullshit.

Speaker 3:

I'm out of here. Man, that's funny, man, that's funny. Okay, all right, kev. So you know, to me it just, it just seems very fishy. Let's talk about, uh, last week's rabbit holes rabbit hole of the week what rabbit hole did you find yourself in, kevin klein?

Speaker 2:

well, uh, you know that, uh, instant replay 360 machine that we used to have in the studio I do, okay. Well, I bought one for the hockey team here and so I've been loading sound clips and so I spent an exorbitant amount of time last week going through movie quotes that I could be using for hockey drops in the middle of the game, so I spent a boatload of time of the game. So, uh, spent a boatload of time because, like you go on youtube and you type in, uh, uh, lottie freaking da, you know from matt foley, well then, you know, on the side you get the algorithms that. So I had to watch a shit ton of chris farley stuff because he just always made me laugh oh, that's great yeah, and then that lead.

Speaker 2:

you know, then you see an adam, you see adam sandler in one of the skits and you're like, oh, he's got to have some quotes, adam Sandler quotes. And then boom, and you know it's just like a vicious circle.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I'm just curious, Cause you know, you know PA announcing at a hockey game like when would you give me an example of a time that you would use one of these quotes that you pulled down?

Speaker 2:

Okay, like time that you would use one of these quotes that you pulled down. Okay, like, when the referee, uh, makes a bad penalty, call, I'm gonna play. Uh, uh, will, ferrell, as elf. You sit on a throne of lies, so we got that one, okay, uh. And then, right at the very beginning, right before they drop the puck to start the game, I've got wayne's world okay game on game on. So yeah, you just throw them in. You know various parts of the game, but never during play, only when stoppage.

Speaker 3:

And do you handle the music too?

Speaker 2:

No, we got a guy standing next to me that handles the music, but I'm going to try and take some of that away from him as well.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, hey, Kev put in five-finger death punch, got your six. I told Audrey to do that when she was doing Texas State football games last season.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 3:

And she pumped that, piped that in there and the crowd just went into a frenzy.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

A frenzy.

Speaker 2:

Another great five finger death punch song is called the bleeding. Yeah, that's good too. Oh my God, that's a great song, but, kev, I got your six.

Speaker 3:

I got yeah, I just got your six and just the beginning part. There's a million of us and we ain't going down Just Texas state. The Bobcat Nation went nuts when they heard that.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, I will definitely do that one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, check into that one. There's some language, just like one word, that you would have to deal with, but otherwise you just play the first minute and a half of that song as they're coming out on the ice Game over, game over.

Speaker 2:

Okay, thank you for the tip. You're welcome. What about you?

Speaker 3:

Kevin, and you may know this guy I'm having a renaissance in regards to the X's and O's and the next level four-dimensional chess game of football. Yeah and uh, you know, because dallas is really into it and we have these great, you know discussions and think tank discussions about the x's and o's and strategy and football. And there's a former missouri tiger quarterback, chase daniel. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him totally familiar with him. Yes, uh, he's got a youtube uh channel where he breaks down quarterback performance oh nice, like, like.

Speaker 3:

And he I just started getting into it he broke down, you know, week one, pre-season uh, week one, all the rookie quarterbacks, you know all of their plays and did the x's and those and the reads and everything like that and I was just, I was fascinated by it. I just love that aspect of it, that that next level to be able to like watch football differently. Oh yeah, new things to look at.

Speaker 2:

I've always wanted to do that, like what Mike Rowe does with a dirty jobs. I've always wanted to do that where you are a job for a day and you're training with an expert in that field, but you can never do it the way that I wanted because you would have to change your eyes. I want to see a surgery through the eyes of a surgeon. I want to see a quarterback, an NFL, play through the eyes of a quarterback. You know.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 3:

And so you're getting it with chase, daniel yeah, because they have the uh behind camera of what the quarterback's seeing and you can see and he can break it down right there. He's like hey man, his, his second option was open but he had already moved on, uh, initially from the second option was looking on the other side of the field. The third option he didn't. He didn't this. He's a rookie quarterback and he's feeling mud in the pocket and he's you know he's. He's seen a lot of colors. That's what it means when the other team's color is up in your face okay you know he's seeing a lot of color, so you know he wanted to.

Speaker 3:

He was checking his progressions too quickly, you know, yeah, because an nfl quarterback comes to the line of scrimmage and you know he knows where all the patterns are. Not only that, but what he should be looking at first, second, third and then as a safety.

Speaker 2:

Well, they always say that the great ones are able to slow the game down. Exactly, able to slow the game down or able to make you know.

Speaker 3:

You have guys like Peyton Manning and Dan Marino who know very like, like before the balls even snap of what's going to be open based on what the defender is doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they've seen so much film, they know exactly the way somebody lines up exactly what they're going to be doing.

Speaker 3:

Exactly so they'll make a decision of. You know I'll look to my left to throw off the safety and have the safety go that way. You know I'll look to my left to throw off the safety and have the safety go that way, because I know, over to my right, based on the coverage, what this defender was doing at the line of scrimmage that he's going to be off the ball and my flat pass is going to be open.

Speaker 3:

So yeah that's what they'll do. They'll come out there, they'll look two seconds to the left and they know that guy's open.

Speaker 2:

So who in the rookie class is ahead of the game are going to be good this year.

Speaker 3:

You are going to be very pleased to hear this, kevin Kline. Your Denver Broncos quarterback, bo Nix, really looks to be the strongest. Now there's a reason for that, bo Nix. I think he has one of the all-time records for most NCAA football starts in history.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was at least a five-year, maybe a six-year.

Speaker 3:

He's a I don't know. He had 60 or 61 starts, which is unheard of for an NCAA college football quarterback Unheard of. So he's got so many reps under the belt, like you got poor Drake May from North Carolina. He's got like 15 or 17 or 20 or something likeke may from north carolina.

Speaker 3:

He's got like 15, yeah, or 17 or 20 or something like that, you know. So he's struggling and they expected that, that maybe he would struggle with the patriots a little bit. But bone nicks, he is calm and cool and he does, and and chase daniel's going over this like he's doing all of his progressions perfectly. The game has slowed down for him. You know, quarterbacks these days are so good coming out of college because all the year-round camps that they have, those Peyton Manning camps, you know, they know, you know they know how to play the game and they're so good at the game. That's why any quarterback that's drafted in the first round is an easy. Hey, let's just start them.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, because they've already experienced 80% to 90% of what they're going to experience in the game.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and just watching the tape and Bonet yeah, he's good. Caleb Williams has some great skill. Oh, okay, me being a Packer fan, I hate to say it. I'm worried about the Chicago Bears and how good they could be, because not only do they have Caleb Williams, but they have new weapons at wide receiver. They're loaded and they got a killer offensive line, kev, and that's something that I was noticing from Chase Daniels' breakdown, too is Caleb has time.

Speaker 2:

That's going to be a fun division to watch, because you got the Packers with Jordan Love, you've got Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions, and now you've got Chicago, which might be a year away.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they're a year away. You got to give him time to gel, yeah. But, kev, you may be surprised what your Denver Broncos do this year with Bo Nix.

Speaker 2:

It's been lean years, it has.

Speaker 3:

It's been rough and you could. You could tell sean payton's like god, man got get, got rid of that. Russell fucking uh, wilson, uh hot potato.

Speaker 2:

He's not even doing that good with pittsburgh kev.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he had one pass of 10 or more yards yesterday uh-huh or saturday or whatever it was. Yeah I, I said it from the trade to to uh denver. When it went down two years ago, I was like Russell. There's a reason why Pete Carroll got rid of Russell. He knows something. He's washed man. He is washed.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I wish I had his agent.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, his agent.

Speaker 2:

God bless his agent, oh my.

Speaker 3:

God man I mean his agent is his most valuable player, without a doubt.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 3:

But, kev, yeah, I love that if you, if you ever get some extra time, you want to check it, because he's a missouri tiger, he's your neck of the woods, uh-huh, and you know he was he was an nfl journeyman for those unaware played a bunch of different teams. I think he does have a ring from one of the teams he played on. He got a ring.

Speaker 2:

He was a backup most missouri quarterbacks end up becoming journeyman. Blaine gabbert drew lock chase daniels kev.

Speaker 3:

That is not you know. Far be it for me to throw this out here, and I probably should. But if I'm a ncaa college football quarterback and I'm not one of the absolute top elite guys, I got no problems being a seven, eight year backup in the NFL.

Speaker 2:

Yep exactly.

Speaker 3:

They don't get hit. They have very chilled Sundays and those guys make five to $6 million. Damn right, they do A year, yeah, so I would have no problems being being hey, uh, tim tuttle backup quarterback for the buffalo bills. Go, josh, go. You're doing great, josh, and you know having an eight and you're banking five, six million a year. You're banking, that's right yeah, no, it's.

Speaker 2:

You're looking at the upside there, buddy yeah, and you're.

Speaker 3:

Then you retire at 28, 29 years old and you have your brain. You don't have any cte. You know you're able to wake up in the morning and put two feet on the floor and it's not agonizing pain yeah yeah, and and plus you probably got yourself a hot woman, because she was. It's just a matter of time before Tim's starting.

Speaker 2:

And because you're the backup, you know the plays just as well, if not better, than, the starter, because you need to, and you've probably got a great career in broadcasting coming up.

Speaker 3:

Either broadcasting or as a coach, because basically you were in the coach's box for eight years. True, yep you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

I do. I know exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 3:

Now me, with my unbelievable personality, I would have veered off into broadcasting but say I'm a shy and you know more chilled out and don't like the attention and a little awkward in front of microphones and TV cameras. Back up quarterback for eight years, then you can easily, easily segue into the coaching thing.

Speaker 2:

Good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and you know, here you are, you're, you're a coach and you got 30 million in the bank, you don't? You know, you're not so worried about the win loss record. Yeah, I gave it a try.

Speaker 2:

Now I'm going to go be a broadcaster. Yeah, jason Garrett gave it a try. Now I'm gonna go be a broadcaster yeah, I'm gonna go be mine.

Speaker 3:

Jason garrett uh, I got tourette's and actually accidentally said cocksucker on the air, that's okay, I got. I got two wave runners, a boat and a nice beach house. I'm good yeah all right, kev, let's do the top three. I think it's you this week.

Speaker 1:

Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle and Klein's top three.

Speaker 2:

All right, so it's something that I forgot to bring up last week when we were talking about the Olympics, but did you see the Philippine gymnast who won the country's first gymnastics gold medal?

Speaker 3:

I did, I remember.

Speaker 2:

Did you see what he got? What did he get? The gold medal? I did, I remember. Did you see what he got for the gold medal? Okay, so you know, like the American gold medal winners, they get $38,000.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, 38 grand If they win the gold medal.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Right, okay, this guy over in the Philippines. He gets this 2 million uh 2 million uh Philippine dollars, which is the equivalent to 600,000 American dollars.

Speaker 3:

Okay, and in the Philippines you could live forever in a day as a king with that money.

Speaker 2:

Oh dude, yeah, he's, he's. He's set for life. Yeah Right, also set for life in a house. They gave him a house and they gave his family a condominium. Okay, awesome, he gets all. You can eat ramen for free at buffets.

Speaker 3:

Okay, how's that? Does he have like a special card or something?

Speaker 2:

No idea, it just said free ramen at buffets. Then he gets free sushi at buffets. But the one that puts it over the top, free colonoscopy for life.

Speaker 3:

Seems so random.

Speaker 2:

On top of the gold medal. What are the three things you would want in addition to the gold medal?

Speaker 3:

Oh, Kev, I want to be able to park anywhere I want, anytime. I want no ticket, no tow.

Speaker 2:

That was a quick response. You must have thought about that. Give me that one right there.

Speaker 3:

Okay, you got it. Give me that one Might as well, just like for the second one. No speeding tickets either, none.

Speaker 2:

I drive as fast as I want. Do you spend that much time in the car?

Speaker 3:

No, no, I'm just. This stuff is the stuff that's popping into my head. I got you, I got you. The big one that I would want Kev is the Armageddon, bruce Willis one, I don't ever want to pay any income tax ever again in my life.

Speaker 3:

No, thank you, wouldn't that be nice, wouldn't that be nice? Yeah, you know, I, I kev. I I always thought that, um, any uh brave soldier that won the congressional medal of honor or something like that should never have to pay income taxes again. Uh-huh, don't get me started that none of us should be, that it's, it's unconstitutional actually to have a an income tax. But I don't want to digress too much.

Speaker 2:

Why not?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, in case in case, rob Babin is listening.

Speaker 2:

That infuriates me. Yeah, you're going to work your ass off and we're going to take 40% of it.

Speaker 3:

It's ridiculous, man. Eventually there'll be a revolution. All right, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. What are your three? What are your three?

Speaker 2:

Well, my three are a lot more shallow than yours. I want a chalet in Aspen Nice, yeah, yeah, I want a chalet in Aspen. I want free airfare on Southwest.

Speaker 3:

Nice yeah For life Free airfare on Southwest for life. I like that.

Speaker 2:

And then, uh, my third thing is, um, heidi Klum's phone number. You, you love her. Uh, heidi Hi, yeah, heidi's out there. Uh, heidi hi, yeah, heidi's out there. Yeah, I, I, I uh actually kind of became a fan of heidi's when she was on it. It just recently happened, as a matter of fact. Um, I mean, I've always liked what she does for halloween.

Speaker 2:

It's cool, yeah, oh yeah yeah uh, she was on uh this uh website pro this streaming uh program where you eat all these hot foods yeah, the, the, the chicken wings thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one. Yeah, and one was so hot that she just tore off her shirt.

Speaker 3:

I'm getting hot. Yeah, whoa, whoa, that's so funny. Yeah, she doesn't give a shit. Well, she's interesting, kev, and I do. I do like her annual halloween party. It's like the the thing to do for celebrities. The one I don't like, though, is when she dressed up like what is, a skeleton, or you know with the muscle, the, the.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can see that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that one yeah, it's like, it's like way to you know you're, you're a hot supermodel, but let's do. Let's have a costume that makes us the most unattractive we can possibly be.

Speaker 2:

Well, the worm one did that too, yeah, when she was a worm.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, she's interesting, without a doubt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, she's cool. I would never have a chance with her, though, because she only goes after musicians.

Speaker 3:

Well, shit Kev.

Speaker 2:

I know I got to learn the guitar. What?

Speaker 3:

did John Kermel K Cam say Play guitar. Forget about all that macho shit and learn how to play guitar. Play guitar. Why'd you get me started?

Speaker 2:

Because I wanted to, because I know you love that.

Speaker 3:

And every time I listen to it I'm like I should have done that. You're right, john Mellon, you're so right, buddy. Do you find yourself, as you're getting older, when you listen to songs? You're like talking back to the song. Oh, yeah, oh yeah, you know, like Zeppelin, when the levee breaks have no place to stay. Boy, you got that right in 2005 in New Orleans, Robert Plant. Oh wow, you know you're talking back to it. You're like doing commentary when you're listening to music.

Speaker 2:

But that's not actually what that song's about, though, is it?

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, no, that came long before it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I mean, it's not actually about flooding though, it's about no, no, no.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, there's some symbolism involved there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's the part of of music that I like is when you read into the symbolism and and what the true meaning of the song is. It's yeah, I love that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah but yeah, I'd say I like, just like, sometimes just make a comment. It's like I hear um whitney houston, I will always love you until I find you in bed with another man. You whore.

Speaker 2:

Jesus, you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, I'm following you, yeah yeah, my heart will go on until all the shitty food you've been eating make the arteries clog and stops it. You should record yourself just on a road trip you listen to when a song comes on. Doing some commentary on songs yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3:

The boys love it. They laugh. They laugh when I'm doing the comments on it. Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 2:

So those would be my three.

Speaker 3:

All right, that's good stuff, kev. What else do we have this week? Anything?

Speaker 2:

What else do we have this week?

Speaker 3:

I want to get a little bit, uh, introspective before we wrap up, please do Um, because you you know me when I do cardio, and I do cardio every single day uh, usually a a fast walk for about three and a half miles or so.

Speaker 2:

Not Olympic fast walk. That looks weird.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, I'm just, I just have wide strides, I just have whites. Yeah, I am, thank you. Yeah, if you ever see me looking like that, just put me down. You just, you cross hairs on the forehead and drop my shit. Um, but you know, I, I had this, this thought, that, uh, and tell me if you've ever had this thought too, that everything people do, everything that a person does, it's geared towards preparing for the future. You know what I'm saying? Getting yourself ready for the future. We shouldn't forget about the now.

Speaker 2:

There was actually a news story yesterday about what the difference is between a puppy and a human. Puppies live in the moment. That's why they're always so happy. They're, now Humans, always concerned about the future. That's why we're unhappy. That's why we're constantly worried. That's why we're nervous and anxious, because we don't know what the future. That's why we're unhappy. That's why we're constantly worried. That's why we're nervous and anxious, because we don't know what the future is going to be. So be like a dog now. Yeah, live in the now.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. I mean, you can't do anything about the past. That's over, it's gone. You don't know if you have a future. We don't know. No, we don't, you don't, you don't. Tomorrow is not guaranteed, not at all. I mean high probability you're going to get, you know, one or a few more at least, but you know it's not guaranteed. Yeah, live with. As a matter of fact, kev, I've taken all of my watches.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 3:

And I've adjusted it. They all just say now so I fucked up the value of my rolex but no, I think about it.

Speaker 2:

If we're living in the now, right now, this very moment, how much fun are you having? Oh, blast, it's great, fucking right. Yeah, I mean, we are living right in the now.

Speaker 3:

All we're thinking about is the present and we're having a blast I, I while we're talking about I, to throw this out One of my best college buddies ever, great guy, beautiful soul, one of my best friends, scott Rudisow. Oh, rudy, yeah, yeah, you remember Rudy right.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Okay. Did he ever do anything with a kid's program?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean his Uncle Rudy was great. He's playing music in Indianapolis at clubs now. He's like he's got regular gigs. But he's such a beautiful human being, I love him. Yeah, he's cool, he's really cool. He listened to my daughter Audrey's podcast, your Hype Girl podcast, the one where I was on it and we were talking about quotes, and he fired off a text to me. He goes man, when we were in college, dude, you had one of the great quotes Time is just a number, yeah. And you know I fired back to him. He goes yeah, time is just a number. Until you start getting really old and realizing, holy shit, that's moving quick. But I was right. You know 21, 22 year old me. I was right, you know 21, 22 year old me. I was right time it's just a number. It doesn't mean anything, you know. And why did and why did we as a human? Why do we as humans even make that a thing?

Speaker 2:

stupid ass gregorians, yeah those fuckers.

Speaker 3:

I don't even know who are they the people who developed the calendar the gregorian calendar yeah, but what else do they but ask Gregorians?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, those fuckers. I don't even know who they are. The people who developed the Gregorian calendar.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but what else do they do? Where are they from? What years were that? Do you know?

Speaker 2:

Well, they chant too the Gregorian chant. I love that stuff.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I know so they're like the monk people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's them. Yep, okay, yeah, I mean, and that's all it is. And could you go so far as to say age is just a number too?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, age is just a number. Time is just a number. Age is just a number. It doesn't matter. None of it matters. The only thing that matters is now.

Speaker 2:

Living in the now.

Speaker 3:

That's pretty introspective and cool of me, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

It's very introspective and cool, but I think we all learned a lesson there. What was the lesson? Live in the now Right. You'll be much happier. You'll be much better.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. Don't worry about what you've done. You can't change it. No, don't worry about what's coming up, because you don't know. Because you just don't know. Thank you, Kev. Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Wonderful stuff, thank you for that, timmy, I needed that lesson.

Speaker 3:

There you go that. Just worry about now, don't even and don't even worry about it, just live the now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you're living it, you're not going to worry about it.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. Thank you, All right Uh.

Speaker 2:

Kev. What do you have, honey? Throw all my pills away. I'm living in the now.

Speaker 3:

She's like fuck you, you crazy bastard. She's like fuck you, you crazy bastard. Also, do us a favor, please, to continue to make this podcast grow. Make sure you like us, follow us, make sure you download the episode. That's the real, that that's. For some reason, that's the big scoreboard. I know a lot of you just press play and listen and that's great and we appreciate you do that. But if you could hit the download, because that's where the scoreboard is in the whole podcasting realm, that's how they keep score and even though we're not really big on keeping score, it still helps grow the podcast. So we would appreciate that. Subscribe, give us a rating, tell your friends about us.

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Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Same here. It was awesome. I always look forward to Mondays. I do too. This is you know. Most people don't like Mondays.

Speaker 2:

I love them Not with Boomtown Rants. They'll tell you straight out I don't like Mondays.

Speaker 1:

Tell me why I don't like Mondays. Tell me why I don't like Mondays. Tell me why I don't like Mondays.

Speaker 2:

I want to shoot Ooh the whole day down. That was about the very first school shooting in America.

Speaker 3:

What's that?

Speaker 2:

I Don't Like Mondays by the Boomtown Rats.

Speaker 3:

I don't, I didn't, so they did the song after a school shooting. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

The girl, that girl that shot up the elementary school across the street from her. The officer put her in the back of the cruiser and said why'd you do it? She goes. I don't like Mondays.

Speaker 3:

Wow, I did not know that. Nah, she's still in prison. Two things real quick, kev. First off, thank you for being Johnny, on the spot there with that beautiful piece of information. Second off, thanks for ending the podcast with a fucking school shooting. Second off, thanks for ending the podcast with a fucking school shooting.

Speaker 1:

That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all-new episode, and you can get more Cline on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.

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