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Ep #26: Unforgettable Tunes, Poolside Tales, and Life's Funny Moments

Tim Tuttle & Kevin Kline Episode 26

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Have you ever found yourself humming a tune out of nowhere and wondered why it happens? We kick off this episode with Tuttle's impromptu performance of Kiss's "Cold Gin" and explore how songs effortlessly drift into our minds. We also reminisce about Tuttle's first girlfriend, Stephanie, and the poignant role the song "Beth" by Kiss played in their relationship, showcasing the unforgettable impact music has on our lives.

Ever made a decision based on superstition and regretted it? We recount a trading mishap tied to the notorious number 666 and how superstitions can shape our choices. From Taylor Swift's affinity for 13 to football legend Dan Marino's career, we discuss how irrational beliefs and team achievements often influence perceptions of greatness.

Shifting our focus, we delve into the evolving landscape of Olympic sports, questioning whether the games should spotlight individual athletic excellence over an expanding roster of team events.

Parenting is filled with unexpected adventures and humorous moments, and this episode is no different. We share tales of managing neighborly interactions at pool parties and the importance of keeping expectations realistic. Whether it's the intricacies of saying "I love you," navigating phone detox, or pondering the quirks of professional athletics, we wrap up with a blend of lighter conversations about school movie classics, actors like Christian Slater, and our timeless appreciation for music and films.

Join us for a heartfelt and entertaining episode packed with nostalgia, laughter, and thought-provoking discussions.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Tuttle and Klein Show.

Speaker 2:

It's all good time again.

Speaker 3:

Oh, we're doing a little kiss this morning, huh.

Speaker 2:

You know, you always win.

Speaker 3:

It's like Stanley's right here with us.

Speaker 2:

We're together, oh shoot, you're there. Ha, ha I apologize.

Speaker 3:

I didn't know why we were getting so lucky this morning with a little kiss rendition of cold gin. But so happy we were, lucky we win the lottery.

Speaker 2:

I have not heard that song in forever and a day. I have no idea why that just popped in my head.

Speaker 3:

Isn't it weird, how that happens?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's completely. I mean, it's just out of nowhere. It's like what triggered, like what's going on in the brain, what kind of electronic stuff you know triggered that right there Said hey, sing Cold Gin by Kiss.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I haven't, seriously. I haven't heard that song probably 10 years.

Speaker 3:

It's a good song. You should go back and revisit the album.

Speaker 2:

Very good, dude, I love kiss I do?

Speaker 3:

I know you do. Was that your first?

Speaker 2:

concert. Yeah, my first concert, your first concert too, right? No, I never saw kiss. Fuck you.

Speaker 3:

We can't be friends anymore no, I know, I never saw kiss. That was the first piece of recorded music I ever bought. I bought the 45 of beth and for the longest time they were my favorite band never saw him.

Speaker 2:

My first concert was deaf leopard, pyromania beth, I hear you calling and I can't come home, right? I, my first uh girlfriend was steph, was steph oh, no way you didn't do it oh, yeah, all the time, steph, I hear you calling. She was Stephanie, yeah, so, yeah, yeah, how long did that last? And then we were on and off for a while. You know, I met her like just after I turned 18 at Ball State.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Halloween After I turned 18, halloween night and it was funny. After we broke up, you know, she got a new boyfriend and they were at the Chug. That was the bar.

Speaker 3:

That was the hangout.

Speaker 2:

You know, we were all at the Chug and she's dancing with her boyfriend and I'm over on the side, or whatever, and Beth comes on and her new boyfriend starts to like try to dance with her and she goes no, I can't do that, I can't do that. So, even though she's with a new guy, you know, she feels still felt the uh, timmy tingles the mark was made yeah, yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 2:

That's so funny. Yeah, cap, I did something very, very stupid that I want to share with you real quick before we get on to our business. Please tell me, on Friday I was trading, okay.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, that's what you do.

Speaker 2:

And it was a choppy day and I got caught in a chop a little bit and I was down some money and then finally, after three hours of grinding, I got into a profit.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

The problem was my profit for the day was $666. And, Kev, my rule is this is if I go down to a certain level, my goal then is to take one more trade just to try to get back to break even or a slight profit.

Speaker 3:

Okay, but.

Speaker 2:

I caught a nice runner and it, just it covered everything. The next thing I know I'm up $666.

Speaker 3:

Yes, which, if you're not familiar, is what they call the mark of the devil, the number of the beast. Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number. Its number is 666.

Speaker 2:

So of course I could not leave my P&L at 666. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3:

You couldn't huh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I took another trade.

Speaker 3:

And.

Speaker 2:

Lost.

Speaker 3:

Oh man.

Speaker 2:

So I actually went down and did not have a profitable day on Friday because, uh, I could not handle six, six, six. Wow, dang it.

Speaker 3:

What's the lesson then? What's the lesson then?

Speaker 2:

The lesson is is the devil has nothing to do with the markets. I actually talked to another friend about this and he said what you did? Right, there is, you empowered him.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, you did actually.

Speaker 2:

And you took the dark side and he fucked you for that.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

And he did man. So instead of yeah, I lost like $400 instead of being up $666.

Speaker 3:

See, here's a. I don't, I don't prescribe to that either. Uh, the the 666, it doesn't bother me at all. Uh, and here's one reason why I don't put a lot of stock in numbers. I know there's a lot of numerologists out there. What's Taylor Swift's favorite number?

Speaker 2:

13.

Speaker 3:

How much is Taylor Swift worth this day?

Speaker 2:

A shit ton of money.

Speaker 3:

There you go. 13 ain't unlucky.

Speaker 2:

My dad liked 13 too, because he was born on the 13th.

Speaker 3:

There, you go.

Speaker 2:

So that was never a thing for me. And yeah, kev, I got to admit I was always a fan of Dan Marino and he was number 13. Right, yeah, you know Kev being a Packer fan and all that. That's all well and good. And of course, I admire Tom Brady. What he accomplished over a very long period of time. He is the lifetime achievement goat, without a doubt. Joe Montana was Joe cool phenomenal Love watching him play. Probably the most talented quarterback in history is Patrick Mahomes, but the greatest pure passer to ever live was Dan Marino.

Speaker 3:

Oh geez, If you go back and look at his numbers, oh, there was nobody. He was unlike anything else.

Speaker 2:

Not only that, though, but watch the tape too. If you ever get a chance to watch a Dan Marino highlights video and there's a lot of them out there now is the windows like how accurate he was. Not only the quick release, where he would make the read very, very quickly and he would get that ball out of there, which, like nobody had ever seen, total gunslinger, but his accuracy was just unbelievable, man. I mean, that dude could hit like a floating dime 40 yards away.

Speaker 3:

I would have loved to have seen that. That would have been amazing.

Speaker 2:

The problem with that trick is we had trouble with the floating dime.

Speaker 3:

Exactly is. We had trouble with the floating nine exactly.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, and you know that dallas loves that, because dallas is a miami dolphin fan oh yeah, so he loves that, you know. I think that about dan marino that's cool yeah, I mean, was he not? I mean, kev, I know you're a denver broncos fan, uh, but you have to admit to and it's tough. I know you have an Elway crush.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but I'm never team or player centric enough that I can't recognize greatness on another team. I'm not like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the only reason I bring that up is because they were part of that same 83 draft Marino and Elway.

Speaker 3:

And Jim.

Speaker 2:

Kelly and Jim Kelly and. I got to say you know nothing against Jim Kelly and John Elway. Phenomenal careers, hall of Famers, as they deserve. But they're not as good a pure passer as Dan Marino. There's never been somebody like him, pure passer.

Speaker 3:

yeah Right, I would agree with that. I don't know of anybody that's more of a pure passer. I mean, he ushered in a new era.

Speaker 2:

And it hurts me a little bit that he doesn't get the respect that he deserves because he doesn't have a ring.

Speaker 3:

No ring.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know, that's just. He can't do anything about the teammates, he can't do anything about the franchise, the program, and it just wasn't there for him.

Speaker 3:

Well, I don't know if you watched the women's Olympic gold medal soccer game, but there was a lady that played for Brazil named Marta M-A-R-T-A. She is universally recognized as the greatest of all time female soccer player. She was in four three World Cup finals never won. She was in two, three Olympic finals never won. She's the greatest women's soccer player. Never won a World Cup. Never won an Olympic medal. Yeah, gold medal.

Speaker 2:

You can't do anything about everybody else, though.

Speaker 3:

I know, yeah, yeah, but nobody takes away the GOAT title from her, so why do you got to take it away from Marino?

Speaker 2:

And you can tell, you know, because it took Michael seven years and you can tell that he was, it took, uh, it took michael seven years and you could tell that he, he was really bothered. Michael jordan was really bothered by that. Well, you're just a circus act, you're just. You're just a scorer, you know.

Speaker 3:

You're just a high flying dunker, you know and he hated that he, because he knew he had to get a ring, oh yeah, and that's why he cried so hard when he won that first championship exactly.

Speaker 2:

he's on the ground in the locker room. I mean, let's not even talk about how disgusting that is to be rolling around In Chicago of all places In a Chicago locker room on the floor. That's just horrific, I mean. So that tells you how important that was to him. He didn't even care about all the millions and millions of germ and bacteria floating around and shit like that.

Speaker 3:

Prior DNA, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2:

All that shit, man you know. So that's how important it is.

Speaker 3:

I agree.

Speaker 2:

I remember thinking that too, when we were young, because this is 1991. Yeah, and we were young when we watched this and I was like, ooh, that's gross, Michael, Michael, get off the ground, man.

Speaker 3:

And Tim was not nearly as germophobic as I was, so imagine my skin crawling.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, Kev, I would say that you probably went outside and threw up.

Speaker 3:

I bathed immediately.

Speaker 2:

Michael Jordan was never the same to you after that moment.

Speaker 3:

No, we'd have been knocking elbows or fist bumping, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

If you would have met him or something like that, he'd have been like hey, kev, let's play one-on-one. He'd be like I can't guard you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, uh-uh.

Speaker 2:

You have a layer, you have a layer. You have a layer of nasty. I know you haven't completely washed off from 1991. God dang it Let me wear my hazmat suit, Mike. Hey, since we started talking about Olympics, let's go into it a little bit.

Speaker 3:

Okay, now in the rearview mirror. Paris did a great job.

Speaker 2:

Paris did a good job. You know there's some controversy about the opening ceremonies, with that whole Last Supper thing, but you know that's all for artist interpretation. Seth Curry dude. Come on, man.

Speaker 3:

Oh, steph is the greatest pure shooter, I think, in basketball, wouldn't you agree?

Speaker 2:

I have Kev. I have never seen what I I mean. You know, michael against Utah got hot that one game and I'll, I'll never forget that. But Seth Curry is just next level off balance, like like completely. You know he threw stuff up that most coaches would be like what the fuck are you shooting that for? Well?

Speaker 3:

the last three. He hit in the finals against France. There were two guys on him and it's just like he was throwing it up.

Speaker 2:

Just throwing it up Like that's what it looked like. Seriously, 99.9% of all coaches, if a basketball player shot shots like that, would be sitting on the uh, put him on the bench. Seriously, I know seriously, you're not even gonna run the offense, you're gonna do that shit. Fuck you, dude, get on the bench. But seth curry, you just he, he's, he's one. He's one of those guys when he gets the vibe and just give him the ball is is.

Speaker 3:

Uh, his dad's name is dell right dell curry. Do you don't remember del curry? I do, but I'm just kind of wondering how come you consider why you're calling him seth. He's got a brother you said seth, it's steph right. What?

Speaker 2:

did I say seth why do I keep saying?

Speaker 3:

that I don't know, but he's got a brother named seth right why do I keep saying seth curry?

Speaker 2:

oh, no, no, no, kev, I had a childhood friend named Seth Curry. Did you really? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Played on another little league team Did he shoot the way that Steph does. No, I just played baseball against him.

Speaker 3:

Oh, oh, he played baseball, okay.

Speaker 2:

That's so funny that I kept saying that Wow See, that's another thing. What's triggering in my brain to make me remember, you know, when I was 11 years old, somebody I played baseball against?

Speaker 3:

I was thinking the same thing. I was going to go back to like wow, that's a cold gin thing again cold gin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's so weird. How many times did I say seth curry three?

Speaker 2:

that's so funny oh wow, we're all good yeah, so, so sorry about that, steph Curry, I didn't mean that and, kev, you know I got to throw some props out too. It was just amazing to watch her because she was one of the dominant players on the team and I watched her, since she was 15 years old, play at Houston Skyline Avery Skinner for the US women's volleyball team. They won a silver medal and she was just unbelievable and it's going to be a really neat thing for Houstonians because you know it's looking like in 2028, it's Avery and her sister, maddie, who Audrey played volleyball with at Houston. Skyline will be sisters on the US Olympic team.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that'll be a massive story.

Speaker 2:

That'll be a massive story and those two will kick some ass together and will be amazing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, avery wore a jersey number three, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2:

That's correct. Yeah, okay, did you see her in action at all?

Speaker 3:

I did, oh, I did yeah.

Speaker 2:

She's a and Kev she's not that. I mean, she's six one and I know you think you know six one. That's pretty big, but you know not for those trees, no, and she just flies man and she just hits so hard and that's, and I, just I, when I watch her, I just remember back, you know, in 2014, I was taking 13 year old audrey to her first hou skyline practice and it was right on the same court as 15s you know which, which, or 16s, whichever one Avery was playing on, and we were just both like holy shit. And I remember looking at Audrey, looking at me, and go, dad, I'm not that good. And I said I don't know many of that that are yeah, and audrey said I remember audrey was like 13 and audrey said, dad, when I grow up, I want to be like her. And you know what I said I do too, you know, so a salute to her. Uh, that was great.

Speaker 2:

The us women's uh volleyball, just like the us women's soccer team. And kevin, kevin, this is more obscure. I don't know how much you get into the Greco-Roman wrestling.

Speaker 3:

Great.

Speaker 2:

The Lopez guy from Cuba. Uh-huh, five consecutive gold medals in the same event. Are you kidding me? 2008, 12, 16, 20, and 24. I can't even fathom. Can you fathom that? No, this one, he's 42 years old.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly. Well, that's point number one. Point number two five Olympics in a row, You've got to make the team five times.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and Cuba only sends one per weight division and there were some younger dudes that were really good that didn't get to go to the olympics.

Speaker 3:

uh, from, from, from cuba they'll have their time because he's retiring now. He set the shoes on the mat.

Speaker 2:

It was a beautiful moment yeah, you know young tony montana who hey mine, it's my turn. Okay, what the fuck man, I gotta sit home here in Havoc, cuba and watch this shit again, man.

Speaker 2:

I can't even win a gold medal this guy's so fucking good I can't even win a gold medal, man. I want my opportunity cause it's been knocking at the door. Good, I can't even win a gold medal, mike. I want my opportunity because it's been knocking at the door and I've been trying to answer this. It does ding-dong ditch against me, mike. I'm sorry, that was so fucking lame.

Speaker 3:

That's funny, though that's great. That's great. Are we still on the Olympics?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, go ahead. What do you have?

Speaker 3:

Break. Dancing is the worst what.

Speaker 2:

Kev I was going to bring that up to you Is the Olympics. I think that the US Olympic Committee, or whatever, the International Olympic Committee, the IOC, is playing a joke. They are playing a joke on the world, saying let's just do this? Come on, Just for shits and giggles. Man, you know we're going to cut softball and baseball.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

And we're going to put in break dancing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they couldn't break. Dancing it's a skill. It's not a sport. It's a skill, unless you're an Australian mom of 36 years of age. Did you see her? Yeah, she was awesomely bad.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so break dancing will not be in the 2028. What is replacing break dancing in America in 2028? Another sport that doesn't need to be in their flag football. Another sport that doesn't need to be in there Flag football. Why Exactly? Some things don't need to evolve. The Olympics are one of them. Okay, the Olympics. I did some investigating before I spout my mouth about this. But the Olympics were originally set up in BC as a religion ceremony, and sports was a part of the process. Okay, the original things were running, javelin, wrestling, boxing and pancreation. Which pancreation is still in existence today? It's over in Japan. It's pancreas. The rules have changed a little bit. Back in the early days of BC, the Olympics, the only thing you couldn't do was eye gouge and bite, and the guy who always won gold medals or the championship was known as fingertips because his first move was to break the fingertips of his opponents.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

We need to bring that shit back. We're doing break dancing, yeah, instead of that, instead of that boy, are we a bunch of pussies?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know, I know so, but that was the original concept, okay. And then it became a a way for the world to show humanity competing against each other in good sportsmanship, which I'm totally down with that.

Speaker 2:

But some of the sports don't need to be there, can you imagine you worked your whole life sportsmanship, which I'm totally down with that, but some of the sports don't need to be there. Yeah, can you imagine you worked your whole life to you know, you went to broadcasting school and you get your shot. Finally, your dream is to cover the Olympics and they tell you hey, bob, you're doing break dancing. I'd be like, no, no, I want to do basketball or at least track and field. What the fuck? Yeah, no, no, bob, you got to work your way up the ladder. We're going to start you off break dancing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if your sport name starts with B-boy, you're not an athlete. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, and yeah, bob, you know. Uh, in between, um, you can go do fast walking to cover that. What the hell is that? Why is that kev? That's been there since we were little kids. Why is that still there? That's the most awkward looking shit ever. It's weird looking man. Waves of waves of people like doing a penguin waddle man. It's weird, man. It's not right. I mean, just look at this shit, man. That is awkward, that's weird and people shouldn't be doing that and, even worse, people should not be watching it it is a strange uh, it is a strange method of transportation it just looks again.

Speaker 2:

can you imagine? Okay, we finally decide. They finally decide to give us an official visit, aliens from another planet. They go and land on the street and they see fucking a fast walk race. They're just like, oh my God, we were going to give these guys the technology and the secrets and keys of the universe. Let's just blow this fucking planet up. Look at this, Look at this. Look at this, shit man. Look what they're doing. Hey people, Bob, look at this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they, they would be frightened.

Speaker 2:

That's, yeah, that shit is just too weird, man, it's just too weird.

Speaker 3:

They do fly, they're very fast, they're walking.

Speaker 2:

Come on, man, there's got to be a couple guys in the middle of the pack that are just like. All right, I'm going to break out to just a quick run here. Yeah, and can you imagine having to?

Speaker 3:

watch that that closely that you have to. He was running.

Speaker 2:

Yeah for that step right there. You know that was a run. It's just too weird. It's too weird. It needs to stop that and breakdancing. Get that shit out of there. Yeah, breakdancing Baseball and softball bring it back, please. Is LA going to have baseball and softball?

Speaker 3:

I don't know, but I know that we're saying baseball and softball. I've said it previously, but I've changed my stance on this why I don't think team sports need to be in the Olympics.

Speaker 2:

So get rid of all team sports.

Speaker 3:

Well, look at it. Why do you need soccer? You already have the World Cup, nations playing against nations, okay, I thought the same thing when I was watching golf.

Speaker 2:

I was like these guys have major championships. What is this?

Speaker 3:

I mean, this is you know what's the big deal with this. We have the Ryder Cup, we have the President's Cup. We don't need that. We don't need golf in there. They had the World Baseball Championships before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, well, they could figure something out, they could All team sports gone. I kind of like that concept. I don't know. It just gets back to the original concept.

Speaker 3:

Would. I kind of like that concept. I don't know. It just gets back to the original concept who's the best athlete?

Speaker 2:

Would you still have the relays in swimming and track and field, because that's a team competition.

Speaker 3:

It is a team competition in the respect that, yes, there's four people on the team, but it's still an individual effort. To get you know what I'm saying yes, yeah, each athlete has their own leg. So, yeah, I would still keep that. I would, and I would love to go back to the all amateur status.

Speaker 2:

I like that idea too, Kev. I was thinking about that. I was thinking, you know, it's really really hard to root for people who have $300 million liquid, yeah, In that type of way Now in their own leagues. Cool, that's great, but you know, in's something that's supposed to be. You know different and held different. I like the all amateur too. I really do yeah, it's fascinating.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I'm not. I've never talked about the dream team. We're what, 44 years removed from the miracle on ice, and we still talk about it like it happened yesterday exactly, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

you know, I and kevin and I also love the uh, the comparisons they'd like to do. You know, the 92 dream team versus this one, you know who would win. You know, obviously, if they played 10 times the one modern one would win because, you know, larry bird was old at the time and they were all getting older, and Magic Johnson, you know, was a year removed from HIV, so he hadn't been playing for a year. And then they had Christian Leitner, that college guy. Yeah, so obviously, man for man, the modern team, the 2024 team, would kick 1992's ass, unless Somebody pissed off.

Speaker 3:

Michael Jordan before the game yeah right, Am I right? Yeah, he would make up scenarios just to aggravate himself in his mind.

Speaker 2:

Oh he would. He would imagine things yeah, just to light that fire Like he would imagine that LeBron sneered at him or something like that or said something under his breath, even though LeBron wouldn't be stupid enough to do that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, nobody would be stupid enough to do that.

Speaker 2:

And then that would be it. I mean, Michael would put up 67 points and 92 would win by 92. You know yeah.

Speaker 3:

But I mean you look at the times that people are running now, just the athleticism, the training and all that stuff has changed. It's so different you can't compare, you couldn't play those two teams against each other.

Speaker 2:

And you can see that too on track and field Kev oh yeah. These are, I mean particularly the women sprinters.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh. Holy shit, that is fast dude, did you see the uh? When the semi-final uh of sydney mclaughlin's uh, sydney mclaughlin liveroni's uh 400 meter hurdle semi-final, I, I think I did, yes, where they did the side by side of women running without the hurdles and she running with the hurdles yes, with the hurdles against the people who weren't running with hurdles, she still would have finished.

Speaker 2:

fifth, that's pretty crazy dude. Oh my God, and I forgot who our hurdle guy is.

Speaker 3:

Grant Holloway, yeah, or Rye Benjamin. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Benjamin, the one who anchored the 4x400.

Speaker 3:

Rye Benjamin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it looked like the hurdles weren't even there, that he was just doing his same stride.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's so pretty, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

It's unbelievable and not taking away from any of the hurdlers that we watched when we were kids back in 84, 88 and shit like that. But these are different and shit like that. But these are different. That it's. It's. It's a noticeably, by the naked eye, different look in terms of speed, athleticism, just their muscle tone, strength, yes, just their muscle tone. I I don't want to take anything away from flojo because I think she still holds records, probably, flojo, but you know she was a little bit Pillsbury Doughboy in comparison to what we see with the modern sprinter. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Gabby Douglas, Sha'Carri Richardson Not a ounce of flab on them, they're cut man.

Speaker 2:

That is just. I mean they live day to day to be fast, because they know the rule If you're not first, you're last.

Speaker 3:

There it is. Isn't that a Ricky Bobby? There you go.

Speaker 2:

If you're not first, you're last, and one of them had that T-shirt. I forget which one of them wore that T-shirt.

Speaker 3:

If you're not first, you're last.

Speaker 2:

And one of them had that T-shirt. I forget which one of them wore that T-shirt. If you're not first, you're last.

Speaker 3:

You would have been a great hurdler.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you know, if I was too dedicated to baseball, the track and field coach always tried to get me out there to do long jump and high jump because you know I had to leap. Yeah, I had like a 36, 37-inch vertical. I had like a 36, 37-inch vertical. I used to dunk and everything like that, but I never really delved into it. But yeah, seeing, jonas was in eighth grade, he just came out of nowhere, he's got his dad's ups and he meddled out of nowhere without even maybe doing it once in a meet before the triple jump and the long jump, and he's going against all the brothers. This little white boy, jonas against all the brothers, and all the brothers are like damn.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, yeah, and the hurdles would have been cool.

Speaker 3:

Well, I say that because number one, you ran fast. Number two, you had ups. But number three, you love numbers and all that, all that sport is is counting. One you love numbers and all that sport is is counting one, two, three, four jump. One, two, three, four jump one, two, three, four, jump.

Speaker 2:

You know the same as swimming too. That's the same as swimming. They count their strokes, Do they really? Absolutely Everything's a count.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, I didn't know that they have it down to a count.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they used to teach Audrey and Jonas that too, when they did the medley, when they had to do the backstroke as part of the medley is, once you see the flags, there's a certain number that you know your number and then you can just reach. Wow, yep, love learning stuff like that. Yeah, it's a stroke count, everything is a stroke count when you get to that level and you can see. You can sometimes see the breaststrokers when they come out of the water. They pop out of the water. They're counting.

Speaker 3:

Can you imagine how many strokes Katie Ledecky would have to count in the 3,000 or whatever race she swims 7,954.

Speaker 2:

7,000. Lose count, damn God, I can't. Nobody should have to swim that far. I know I mean people that were trying to escape the Germans and the English Channel didn't swim that fucking far, cubans don't swim that far yeah even Cubans are like what the fuck is this? Hey, mine, that's a long way mine. I said Miami, not Charleston. That is a long distance race for sure.

Speaker 3:

Yes indeed, brother, yes indeed.

Speaker 2:

Hey, kev, I got to tell you a story this weekend. One of our neighborhood moms decided and I don't know why she did this she decided to throw her kid's second birthday party at the community pool here kind of doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Speaker 3:

Are you going to put a two-year-old pool on a two-year-old in a community pool?

Speaker 2:

well, yeah, I mean well, no, they had the little floaties and everything like that oh, okay, okay, okay, but you know the.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what she was thinking because she I guess she imagined she was going to have the pool to herself because it was a very hot day here in houston and's on the weekend, that place packs up and there's a lot of partying going on and you know a lot of 20 somethings bashing and raging hard and having a good time and everything like that. And she seemed extremely annoyed by that and like it was ruining everything. And you know, finally I had to. I had to walk over to her. You did yes to her. You did yes, I did.

Speaker 3:

How did that go?

Speaker 2:

I basically told her. I said look, ma'am, it's only a two-year-old. Okay, your child is not going to remember shit about what happened today Because remember, our first conscious memory is three, three and a half years old. Remember that.

Speaker 3:

Yep, you've always said that yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I'm like this. Your kid will have no idea, so there's no need for the first and second birthday or anything for the first couple. You know three years to go out of your way to do anything extraordinary, all right, especially when you have, you know, things like Photoshop and AI, where you can tell them and show them what a great time that they had at Disneyland. And you didn't even fucking go. She chuckled, uh-huh and she chuckled. I said you know, I, this is not the age where you have to worry about making memories. I mean, that's too expensive, exhausting, produce memories. There you go and yeah, that, that did it, that got her. She was laughing at that. She's like you're right, I never even thought of that, you know very cool yeah, the kid, I have no clue.

Speaker 2:

The kid, I have no idea what happened when they're two years old yeah, and plus.

Speaker 3:

Now she's not pissed at the neighbors, neighbors aren't pissed at her, everything's good. There's copaceticness in the community.

Speaker 2:

I I think that, uh, um, some of the, some of the 20-somethings noticed that she was getting aggravated, and then that's the last thing you want to do is show that you're getting aggravated, cause then they just they put the volume on the music a little higher, pile on, they got a little more annoying and I was like, oh yeah, she walked right into that shit, right there, you know.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

So, that yeah, I know, I know you know it did that's. That's a funny thing as a parent, you have a visualization of what it's going to be and how it's going to be, and when it doesn't turn out to be that, you know a lot of people can't handle that.

Speaker 3:

I think, I think we always go in with expectations At least I do. I go in with expectations, but I go in with low expectations, but I go on with low expectations.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, I got the bar low, like me, kev. All right, we're going to have a two-year-old birthday party at the local pool. A winning day is my kid doesn't fucking drown. Exactly Because that's always been the big thing when you have parties, kids that young and parties at the pool is the parents lose their focus and attention. Attention and next thing you know the kid's bobbing up and down in the water that's right, I didn't happen I well, I've saved a couple.

Speaker 2:

You know, uh-huh I, you know being a life guard and then just being an attentive father. You know watching, um, uh, the neighbor's, uh, uh kid. You know just, and mom's not paying attention, me having to jump in the pool fully clothed to save the kid.

Speaker 3:

That was one of the ways that he got around mingling with the neighbors. Yeah, I'm watching your kid for you. Yeah, exactly, you gotta focus.

Speaker 2:

Obviously you and that Chablis you're sucking down is much more important than your kid's fucking safety.

Speaker 3:

Beautiful.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and that's what it is. And I remember this one specifically. It was the neighbor in Greatwood man. I mean, she's just chirping away with Kathy and the kid and I'm inside, I'm watching and I'm like God dang it. And that kid didn't know what he was doing. And you know, suddenly the kid goes down and I'm like okay, pop up kid, pop up kid. Mom, are you looking? Ah shit. So I had to run outside and jump in Foley Clove Because I can't. You know, kev, we're a morning radio team, know I can't have kid drowns in tuttle's pool I can't have that as a headline.

Speaker 2:

Hell, no, no, not at all and she's like oh, thank you, thank you and I'm like I'm like uh refill yes, thank you, thank you. Hey, do you have more of this? So great, blanca, yeah, so yeah, yeah, and cab you I. You know the story about when I was lifeguarding, when I was 18 years old I don't know when I saved the life of the kid and he ended up being a software engineer in silicon valley, multi, multi-millionaire yeah, you told me about that one, yeah and he never, ever even bought me a steak dinner or anything like that.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I saved his fucking life.

Speaker 3:

Son of a bitch.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and he ends up being like completely loaded by the age of like 26, 27 years old, and I get nothing out of it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you should have at least gotten 50%. I mean without you, he's not here.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't say 50, but, hey, I want to wet my beak a little bit. 49.

Speaker 3:

49.

Speaker 2:

All right, kev, let's do this Our fun new little feature. Be Honest. Be honest, be honest. Kevin, yes. Have you ever said I love you to someone and they didn't say it back to you?

Speaker 3:

Yes, I have. Oh, you probably lead the league. I do probably lead the league, but I ended up eventually marrying her.

Speaker 2:

You said I love you to Trish and she didn't say it back. You want to know her reply. What was?

Speaker 3:

her reply Nah, I don't, I don't want a serious relationship. Oh Uh-huh. Were you just like ah, no, I wasn't. I was like okay, well, eventually you will. That's so funny. I didn't say it out loud, it was in my head. I know why she said it. Okay, I was a rebound for her. I didn't say it out loud, it was in my head, I know why she said it. Okay, I was a rebound for her.

Speaker 2:

I see.

Speaker 3:

She was previously engaged, walked in on him, you know, having sex with somebody else.

Speaker 2:

That's not good.

Speaker 3:

No, and so she disillusioned, or disavowed or, you know, dismantled the engagement, however you want to put that. And then here I come along, like two months later, and you know, we just became friends.

Speaker 2:

And then I I decided that I wanted to tell her I love her, and she wasn't ready for it yet. Oh, so you were just friends and like nothing physical or romantic had happened at all, or anything like that.

Speaker 3:

Not a, thing, tim Not a. Thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was a risky move. That was a risky. I love you. That was you.

Speaker 3:

that was a risky one well, I mean, but I knew I mean even her, her, her in, not her in-laws now they're in-laws, but her aunts and uncles, the very first day they met me, were having bets on how quickly we would be engaged. Really, everybody else could see it for her.

Speaker 3:

Wow, okay, yeah, yeah, and we're not physical, we're just, we're just not physical people no, no, you don't, you don't, no so that was never an issue, you know I, I just it's always just been a connection with the soul, with the heart, spiritually. I just, you know the other stuff happens, but not that was never a priority.

Speaker 2:

OK, all right. How long after you know she shot you down and left you hanging on the I love you, did you guys become a thing? Oh, let's see, Probably five months oh so you had to incubate that shit for another five months.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, and it really only happened because she got fired from the radio station we were working at, and she swears it was because they thought we were having a relationship and so she was just like well, if they think we are, we might as well.

Speaker 2:

Wow, yeah, that's a great story.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Let's give them something to talk about. Bonnie, right, right.

Speaker 3:

That's right, that's your song. So we showed up at the Christmas party party all decked in the nines and holding each other's hands and arms around each other ah I love it.

Speaker 2:

That was her or the boss was like we knew this, we knew it. Yes, they were. Yep, and did you still try to explain it? Hey, we were just friends, but you guys gave us the idea yeah, totally that's awesome.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, believe it or not, that's happened to me once too I do not believe it because I didn't think you would ever say that stuff first I said, uh, I love you too, a beautiful, beautiful woman.

Speaker 2:

And she just like left me hanging, no, like, nothing, not a word. And then I finally just told her. I just said, hey look, I'm a CIA agent, cia agent undercover, and after tonight you will never, ever see me again, ever. As a matter of fact, I thought you were an agent too, and I love you was the secret code and you didn't say it. So you know, obviously I know you're not part of the operation. Oh, wait, wait, wait. You really thought that I loved you. Oh, no, no, no, you're silly, we barely even know each other. We just met tonight at this bar.

Speaker 3:

Beautiful, I'm going to say it was the alcohol talking. But no, cia is a much better story oh yeah, I spun that one.

Speaker 2:

She was freaking gorgeous too, man blue eyes and and dark hair, exotic, just gorgeous. And we were vibing and I was drunk as shit and uh and uh, one of my uh, one of my uh buddies, one of my roommates, was with me. He's like man. She was macking on your shit so hard, dude. What were you doing? Saying I love you? You freaked her out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was like I don't know, I can't remember it. I couldn't remember it, it just happened. It was, uh, one of our other buddies was having a birthday night it was his 21st birthday so we were all taking shots all freaking night. I had no, I I had no concept of reality whatsoever. Matter of fact, I didn't even hear this story until like a couple weeks later, when the pictures you remember this is back for those of you who are young you had to wait for the pictures to develop first, and then I'm looking through. I'm like god, dang, who is this? She's hot. And that's when my roommate told me the story. I was like, oh, you're kidding me, he goes. But we were all cracking up at the cia shit man oh, I'd have been cracking up too oh, the way you went from like complete bald rejection to that CIA stuff, we were freaking rolling.

Speaker 2:

She loved it too. She thought it was hilarious and I was like, well, if she thought it was hilarious, I still got a shot, right? Did anybody get any digits? Did I get any? Nobody got anything, oh man.

Speaker 3:

Go back to the bar. Probably be there next week, right?

Speaker 2:

Kev, we went there. This happened in like February. So, kev, we went there. This happened in like February, so there were still three months left of the year, and we went there every weekend. It was at Butterworth's every Saturday night, just to see if she was there again. Oh man, because I was like man, this is the one right here, bro, look at that. I mean look how hot, look how hot she is. She was just, she was perfect. I can't, I'm trying to. She had just blazing blue eyes and just, I mean, kev, it's like a taller Selma Hayek with blazing blue eyes.

Speaker 3:

Unbelievable.

Speaker 2:

Oh dude, it hurts so bad. It hurts so bad. There was a point I couldn't even look at that fucking picture anymore. I couldn't move. But the CIA story was cool right.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's awesome way to spin, way to spin.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Timmy's not gonna Be rejected. Not gonna let you reject. What about you? You gotta be honest. Oh yeah, Timmy's not going to be rejected. Not going to let you reject. What about you? You got to be honest.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I do Be honest. If the purge was legal, could you kill somebody? So the purge is a movie and killing somebody is legal on a particular night of the year.

Speaker 2:

Kev, you know I'm somebody with a conscience, I have sympathy, so I could never be a serial killer, right, but I would have to say yes, really, kev. Evil people are running rampant in our world today.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And these evil people used to be dealt with harshly, but for some reason they seem to just get away with it these days. You know what I'm saying, I'm following you. Yeah, so I would probably be a part of a much-needed culling. Okay, as a matter of fact, if they announce a purge and they give you some prep time few weeks, few months I would put together a game plan to take out as many evil people as I possibly could. Oh, okay, for the good of man and mankind. Okay, all right, I probably would that. That you know, just the evil people. But but I just couldn't randomly just kill people.

Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah, all right, there, there. There is a distinction there, sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean. But, kev, you know, you get there's a lot of pedophiles and there's a lot of evil fuckers who have hurt children and there's a lot of evil, evil fuckers that have preyed upon good people and destroyed them and and brought harm to them, and they have a common.

Speaker 2:

and I would just be, you know, I would see myself that night, as you know, the Reaper the Avenger you know, just hey, man, you had this common dude, and most of them probably you know when I'm ready to, you know, deliver the dagger. They would say, yeah, I had this coming.

Speaker 3:

Like the Bill Burr comedy bit that he does. I swear to God anytime I ever got punched in the face.

Speaker 2:

I was always pissed, but at some point during the drive home I'd always be thinking, like you know, it's kind of being a dick back there. You know Exactly. I had it coming. I was being a dick. Yeah, I thought about it. I've been in several fights in my life and, and you know, I I deserved every one of them. I would have fought me too, if you really think about it. But what about you? Could you do it? Could you do the verge?

Speaker 3:

I don't think so. I don't not even, not even evil people no, I, I just, I don't have it in me. I just don't have it in me you know it's like uh, and what got me thinking about this was while I was running the other day and there was a stray dog and that's a big fear of mine when I'm running and I was like. I know myself. If that dog were to come and try and attack me, I would kneel down and try and befriend it. I'll probably get my face ripped off.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no. You got to defend yourself against a rabid dog, though, man I know, and equating a dog's life to a human's life.

Speaker 3:

I I get the no, you, you've got.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, it's just self-preservation on your part you. You would have to. You'd be like, hey man, I don't want to do this, but one swift kick will end it okay you know just one. You don't. You don't have to, you don't have to waylay and fucking destroy. I mean, just one swift kick and suddenly they're not as one. You don't. You don't have to, you don't have to waylay and fucking destroy. I mean, just one swift kick and suddenly they're not as rabid and don't want anything to do with you. Okay.

Speaker 3:

Well you know, I hope it never has to come to. That Dog was totally cool. It didn't want anything to do with me, but obviously that got me thinking.

Speaker 2:

Nobody wants to kick a dog. Well, you know no reason. Reasonable person, evil people want to kick dogs? Yeah, no, they'll get it theirs during the purge. But I, you know, you, you got to defend yourself. You, you can't, you can't let, just because you love dogs, you can't let one end you you know and just all.

Speaker 2:

That's all. It is one city. You don't have to beat on them, you don't have to beat the shit out of them, or just one one swift kick. Most, uh, you know animals that that are on the attack. You know that that obviously aren't a bear or a Wolfer or a lion or some shit like that. One swift kick ends it all.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

And they'll, they'll, they'll do that little whimper, noise and then scamper away.

Speaker 3:

Obviously.

Speaker 2:

Tuttle's never seen me kick. Yeah, I remember. I actually remember one time that I remember this woman screaming that her dog had gotten on a leash. We were in a park and the dog had gotten on. Her dog, who obviously wasn't trained and aggressive dog, got broke away from her leash and was coming at us and she was screaming. She was screaming, protect yourself. I was like oh wow.

Speaker 2:

And you know, I'm there with my girlfriend uh-huh and I was like like I got just one little swift kick and that dog immediately backed off and ran towards his owner. Wow, and I hated to do it because I remember that whimper. I don't like that whimper.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh, not me either.

Speaker 2:

I don't like that whimper, but I had to do what I had to do that whimper, but I had to do what I had to do.

Speaker 3:

If the owner of the dog is first reaction is to say protect yourself, that dog shouldn't be in public.

Speaker 2:

That. That well, she was she, you know, and she came over and talked to us after she got him and secured him on the leash, you know, and he brought him over to us and which I was okay with. And the funny thing is, is you know cause? I had insert my. I asserted my alpha-ness.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

That dog laid down in front of me and was on it was was showing me the belly.

Speaker 3:

Wow yeah.

Speaker 2:

Cause you know I alpha'd the shit out of that dog. Yeah, and she was. She was saying that you know she's, she's training him.

Speaker 2:

He had, he had a rough upbringing, great dog, but all the dog knows is violence, oh yeah, and um, you know she apologized and everything like that dog's name was mike tyson oh man, I'm gonna go bite the shit out of this fucker and then you buster douglas him yeah, exactly, I hated doing it because, kev, there's still times I mean, this happened like 25, 25 years ago or something like that yeah, maybe, maybe even more, 30 years, oh shit, yeah, and I I can still sometimes hear that whimper and I don't like it all right, I get, I'm right with you but I, I, uh, I had to do it, man, I had to. I mean plus, you know, my girlfriend thought I was sexy as fuck that I did that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I mean, you could have told her you loved her and she wouldn't have run away.

Speaker 2:

No CIA story on that one. No, hey, kev, we've talked about this before. You know first. First, I want to give you a little bit of an update in regards to my detachment from my phone.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we just talked about that a couple weeks ago. How's it going?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my phone usage, because every Sunday morning at about 9 am, for some reason I get an alert of how much I used the phone in the past week and this Sunday it was a record low amount, nice. And I'm using the DND, the do not disturb mode. I mean, I'm off the grid a lot now and you know, basically my phone is transitioning from a time wasting toy into just a tool when I absolutely positively need it.

Speaker 3:

That's fantastic. Feels good, doesn't?

Speaker 2:

it. Oh, kev, I, you know, I, I am so at peace with that man.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

I really am.

Speaker 3:

Everybody laughed at me when I left 93Q that I was getting rid of my phone. No, you'll never be able to do it. It's pretty damn easy bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I can't get rid of it. You know, I got kids.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, I had to eventually get one, but yeah, no, I don't spend a lot of time on it.

Speaker 2:

But it's really, really helped me in in several areas. One of the areas is I. Yet I remembered yet another dream last week. Sweet, but I'm not sure I like it though. Oh well obviously I got some weird shit floating around in my brain.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

You want to, you want to analyze this one.

Speaker 3:

Well, I want to hear it. I don't. I would love to take a crack at my amateur analyzation.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I had a dream that, um, I was deciding to turn to a life of crime, be a criminal, but tragically, I decided my first caper was to rob a gun store. And then the dream's over and I woke up in the sweat.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Like some redneck, what the fuck are you doing? And then, before he could even fire, I woke up. That's weird.

Speaker 3:

Is that weird? That is kind of weird.

Speaker 2:

I don't know where that came from.

Speaker 3:

It's really weird that you would rob a gun store while somebody is there working the gun store. Normally, when gun stores get robbed, they get robbed when they're closed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, it's not a smart move. And I always thought, if I was going to become a criminal, I would be a master criminal, a really smart onehuh. And this was just dumb, as dumb can be, and I could just, I could just see, like my conscious self arguing, with my dream self going what are you doing, dude? You know, do a bank job I can't.

Speaker 3:

I can't. I mean gun is power, I mean gun is power.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I want power. I'm seeking power at all costs.

Speaker 2:

Perhaps, but I'm not, though I know I actually had you know, because you brought this idea up and one of the people listen to the podcast reach out to me about it when you said, hey, a total, maybe you should run for office. Well, yeah, you should, because you know you have, you know I could probably win a congressional seat or something like that, based on name recognition and stuff like that. And he reached out and he's, he said, hey, look, you know we, you would be an excellent candidate and we could. We could definitely put support behind you and, and you know, maybe even have you be the party nominee and all that stuff. And I'm, you know, and I'm just like I don't want to.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I don't want to, so that's definitely something you have to want to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you're going into it half-hearted, nah, ain't gonna work yeah, I, I mean, I, I don't know, I just I, I don't see it's. It's not an effective way for change. It really isn't okay, because they all get corrupted too. You know what I'm saying, right? Yeah, so I, I don't know, and it just, it just seems like I put my kids through some shit, you know oh yeah, they would definitely be fair play yeah, my kids, would you know they would kev because I'm such a a mouth I mean you know, and I, I don't hold back, I don't, I, I, you know, I would.

Speaker 2:

I would not be polite because I'm so vigorous and, you know, staunching my beliefs, uh beliefs that they would come after me.

Speaker 3:

You'd be quick enough to spin it. Well, yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 2:

I just, but I, you know, I, I, I you know they would, they would, they would. I could just see them fucking with my kids.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, I mean, that's the thing that you have to ask yourself if you're ever going to do something like that is what are they going to find to exploit? Because that's what they're going to do. That's the first thing they do. They start looking for things to exploit, and it shouldn't be like that. It should be. Why aren't they good for running the country? Why am I better for running the country? Or you know, whatever office you're going for?

Speaker 2:

But now it's what trash can we dig up first? Yeah, I mean, it's like hey, we tried to buy this tuttle guy off you know money, he's not going for it. So dig up everything you can on them, anything, yeah, that's that. That's how our system is now either blackmail or bribery or they'll kill you, as get ready to say or they kill you yeah, yeah, it's one of three options if you don't play ball.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I, you know, I mean I would, I would do, I'd probably be a good congressman or something like that, but I just and it, just. It doesn't appeal to me the whole process.

Speaker 3:

But also I think that you could reach across the aisle. So maybe you could be the example to break down the party lines and just do what's best for the country.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean I, I, I, I'm. I'm not like specifically black and white, any side. I weave in and out of by topic, you know, depending on what's going on.

Speaker 3:

Yeah no, last Tuesday we had our little primary thing here in Missouri and you have to go in and declare a party, You've got to blanket vote one party and it's like I don't operate that way.

Speaker 2:

No, I like to pick and choose Box of chocolates. Yeah, there's some people on the right side that I can. There's some. There's some people on the right side that I can't stand, and there's some people on the left side that have some pretty good ideas.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I, I researched every, every candidate that is appearing on my ballot. I researched them. Which one speaks to me the most? Yeah, I don't even give a shit about party.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't, I don't either. I mean I, I, whoever, is the biggest protector of the constitution? You're, you're my guy or gal, basically uh if you're too regulatory too, uh, control freak, I don't want you in there. If you're more freedom, you're my guy or gal there. You, that's just me. So, um, gav, yeah, um, let's talk about some rabbit holes. Rabbit hole of the week. What did you find yourself crawling into that you couldn't get out of and wasted an inordinate amount of time last week?

Speaker 3:

I did a of research on the Olympic sprinters. You know, for all countries. You know, yeah, cause I, I wanted to see, like for me, the Netherlands, femme Cabal. She kicked ass in that relay but then came third in her best race. She came in third and I was like I need to know her backstory and so I I was surprised by that too.

Speaker 2:

I was like, with that burst I thought she was going to win that race yeah, I did too the burst we saw in the relay I, that was like wow, she exploded, yeah, yeah, like what was the difference in what she was doing right there and, you know, in the finishing third race?

Speaker 3:

and she was bawling her eyes out to her parents after she came in third. Uh, but, and and I hate, I absolutely hate when announcers make excuses for athletes. I can't stand it and the the uh. The excuse was well, you know, she had run that relay two days before and then she had to go to the semifinal qualification, so her legs might've been tired. Um, oh, my God, dude, they said that about, uh, they. They said that about, uh, male sprinters too. Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah you can't run missing there.

Speaker 2:

It's not that. It's not that it's not that far of a race.

Speaker 3:

Here's the thing, tim. I'm going to tell you right now what I told my mother-in-law. My wife yesterday proved that that argument holds zero water. The same woman that won the 5 000 meter in this olympics won the marathon. Yes, all in a span of nine days. Yes, the lady ran 26 miles, six miles and three miles, and she won all three. Don't tell me that a 400-meter race takes it out of you Bullshit.

Speaker 2:

No, you should be able to run the same speed two hours later. Yes, I agree, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you're a runner, so you know that shit. You know what it takes to get back into your peak form. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And if you have a week to you, have three days to recover from a 200, you can do it.

Speaker 2:

Anybody can do it man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I don't understand why they and they make excuses for the professional man. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I just I don't understand why they and they make excuses for the professional athletes too.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know why they feel they have to do that.

Speaker 2:

I don't either. It's okay to say hey, I'm surprised that that person didn't perform as well as they should have. Yeah, yeah, what's wrong with saying that? Cause they want to be friends.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's a big part of it. Because they don't want things to be awkward in the Olympic Village at the buffet table. So true, so true.

Speaker 2:

That's why I always like the announcers that would just go out on a limb a little bit and, just you know, say the right thing Barkley, barkley.

Speaker 3:

Charles is amazing, you know, we say it. He piggybacked on the Warriors to win his first two championships. But if you go back and look at his career as the best, player and being a leader that all goes with that. He's been an abject failure.

Speaker 2:

Exactly Barkley is. He'll shoot it straight. He doesn't give a crap. Damn, I'm going to miss him, man.

Speaker 3:

That whole NBA show goes bye-bye after this year. Yeah, I know, I know. Did you see the new Steph Curry sitcom, mr Throwback? No NBA on TNT is going bye-bye. So what did Steph Curry do in the pilot episode? Brings all four of them on. Yeah, absolutely brilliant, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Are they talking about? Maybe they'll move into the network too. I mean Ernie probably never would.

Speaker 3:

They might take it streaming, why not why?

Speaker 2:

not. Well, if Amazon was smart you know Bezos has unlimited money he could just be like we just want you to get the same thing, yeah, it doesn't matter what it costs. I think they they each make like 20, 25 million a year. It's a pocket change for him that that's tip money for bezos absolutely, which won't be taxed anymore.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, I'm gonna become a server, exactly at the only swankiest restaurants. So, yeah, I did that one. And then the other one that I did was a band that I went and saw in 1998, the Jenna Torturers. I was watching a lot of their video footage concert footage the Jenna- Torturers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the lead singer. She used to be a nurse but she ended up going into the world of fetishism. They had either a PG show, an R show or an X-rated show. I'd been to the R show and the X-rated show. Basically, the difference is that in the R show they just simulate stuff. In the X-rated show they actually do the bondage stuff and general piercing On stage. I was just looking at the old footage of them you're always an interesting fellow.

Speaker 2:

A dichotomy of innocent aw shucks, opie cunningham to darkness, yeah, extreme darkness, yeah. I was watching videos, uh, and I couldn't stop myself of how things are made in factories.

Speaker 3:

That's fascinating stuff.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't stop. It's so cool, uh-huh, like. You know how they make like ice cream sandwiches and you know just the automation genius automation involved with like everything, making pencils, and you know making bread and everything is. I couldn't stop watching it.

Speaker 3:

Well, two reasons that I think you couldn't stop watching it. Number one that was one of the early careers that you had.

Speaker 2:

That's correct.

Speaker 3:

You worked on products or machines like that, you worked with machines like that. And then number two. It is just fascinating man, it just boggles the mind.

Speaker 2:

I, I. It is so trippy how these engineers now are that precision, I mean, everything is like precision, perfect. I mean, you know, just look at some of this stuff that you're seeing right here right now, you know, and the speed that it's being done in, it's amazing. Kev, oh yeah, yeah, I mean our manufacturing process is just beyond cool.

Speaker 3:

It all stems from the cotton gin, as you have previously mentioned in a prior episode.

Speaker 2:

Without Eli Whitney? Would any of us be comfortable at all? Nope, that's the big question, kev. So yeah, I can't wait. You know I'll finish up here, you know I'll trade some more and then I'll work out and then afterwards I'm going to do some more factory.

Speaker 3:

What's the most impressive thing?

Speaker 2:

Kev. The ice cream is really cool. The way they make, the way they make the uh, the uh the coated ice cream, uh pops and the uh ice cream sandwiches, I mean it. Just, I rewound it like three or four times. I was just like this is, oh my god you know.

Speaker 2:

So the klondike bar is an amazing eat and an amazing manufacturing process I had no idea they did that or how they like painted these printed dishes and stuff like it. It's just crazy, wow, that like, and I had when I was doing some design engineering myself. I had pretty creative ideas. These guys are just off the charts, like you want to do what and you want to make how many an hour and your budget is what? Oh, okay, all right, and they just go with that. And suddenly they have this, these unbelievable pneumatic and hydraulic and you know machines that are just so precision and perfectly timed, making thousands and thousands of these things every single minute.

Speaker 3:

You know? Yeah, I'm wondering if 3D printing will ever get to be that efficient. If it does, holy cow man.

Speaker 2:

Kev, there's a 3D printer now that's making a house. Yes, yeah, did you see that? Uh-huh, yeah, it's pouring the concrete perfectly. You saw that? I did. I mean, that's eventually what it's all going to be is the 3D printer will just make your house.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I mean we're all going to be replaced.

Speaker 3:

Ray Kurzweil, who is a futurist probably the most well-known futurist said that we are. What are we in now? We're in 2024. We are nine to 12 years away from being zero sum people, meaning that the machines and humans will be one in the same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jonas, jonas was alluding to that, you know, a while back with me, cause you know, jonas is my son, jonas, he's a AI computer guy and he's like, yeah, they'll be our equals soon it's nuts, but I remember gosh.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, maybe it was 30 years ago, 40 years ago, that some futurists said that we will eventually be all be robots. We'll all be made of manufactured parts.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, our spirits and souls will be thrown into a robot and we will be a mortal.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. That wasn't long ago which I, you know.

Speaker 2:

is that something we really want, Cause there's a lot of assholes out there you don't want on this planet forever.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's where the purge comes in. We'll make you the leader of it.

Speaker 2:

The robot purge. That's funny. I'm already seeing a movie right now, you know, uh-huh. All right, that's funny. I'm visualizing a movie. All right, kev, let's finish up. Let's do the top three three. We got to do it this week because it's a time thing just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's tunneling clients top three uh, since it's back to school time, top three movies about school.

Speaker 3:

Top three movies about school oh, animal house that's one of mine yeah, that's a fantastic movie. If you you haven't seen Animal House, you got to see it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's so classic, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh, uh-huh, back to School with Rodney Dangerfield.

Speaker 2:

That's one of mine too.

Speaker 3:

The triple Lindy? Are you kidding?

Speaker 2:

Gold medal every time, hey Shakespeare on me In the bookstore God, rodney Dangerfield was such a legend. I loved Rodney Dangerfield.

Speaker 3:

Then I am going to go. My third one will be God. It's a toss-up and I can't. It's either going to be Dead Poets Society or Good Will Hunting.

Speaker 2:

Good, I like that.

Speaker 3:

So let me just go with Dead Poets Society. Oh, captain, my Captain, captain, uh-huh yeah, great movie yeah, really strong that's another one I gotta make although, uh, if I could amend um the, there's a new one that just came out, maybe earlier this year, that paul giamatti was nominated for an academy award for, and god the, the name of it is the Holdovers. Have you seen it? No, you're gonna fucking love it, dude, it's so funny, it's so good.

Speaker 2:

The Holdovers when did that? When did they release that?

Speaker 3:

Well, giamatti was nominated for an Academy Award for it, which was earlier this year, and the lady who is the female supporting actress, she won the Academy Award for it. So it had to be late last year, early this year maybe, but it's about a boarding school and five kids don't get to go home for the holiday and they are called the Holdovers. Love it, yeah, giamatti's amazing.

Speaker 2:

It kind of sounds like my third one that hasn't been mentioned the Breakfast Club. Oh, how did I forget that? Kev, being a fellow Generation Xer, I cannot believe you left the Breakfast Club off the list. But it's hard. It's hard, remember. I came into this knowing what the top three is going to be. Kevin had no idea. He came in blind. We always surprise each other with the top three.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I do have list remorse there yeah, and, and there may be a couple others. Um, fast times at richmond high holy shit, my, my aunt's in that how can I not? Remember that and this is kevin's aunt right here. Phoebe kates and getting out of the pool and we should probably stop it right there. And Kevin. Another one real quick, Heather's. I've never seen that. Christian Slater One on a rider. It's such a dark comedy, it's so funny.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I should see it then.

Speaker 2:

You will love it. I'm surprised you haven't seen that. Put that on your list. I'll do holdovers. You do Heather's so funny. Oh, I should see it then you will love it. I'm surprised you haven't seen that. Put that on your list.

Speaker 3:

I'll do holdovers, you do Heathers, okay. Well, and while we're on, christian Slater, pump up the volume. That's a great one.

Speaker 2:

Do you remember when we had him on the show?

Speaker 3:

Slater, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I freaking love that interview he's great. Yeah, I wonder what happened to him. I always thought that he would be big time. I always thought that he would like be one of those actors that you know continued to throw out stuff, Cause I always thought he was good. Or was Christian Slater just a cheap version of Jack Nicholson?

Speaker 3:

No, no, slater's got a new project coming out. You haven't heard about it? Oh, he plays Dexter's dad in the prequel. Shut the up, yeah, yeah, oh that's perfect. They were. They were not going to make the series, they had it all ready to go. They couldn't find a dad to play a young Dexter. Okay, and Slater took a look at the script and he said I'm in there Like greenlit.

Speaker 2:

Love it. Uh-huh. Okay, that's good. I'm glad, yeah, because I always liked him. I mean, you know, pump Up the Volume obviously was awesome. Legend of Billie Jean, true Romance.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, that's one of my all-time favorite scenes in cinema. Which one Walken and Hopper? Are you kidding?

Speaker 2:

Dennis.

Speaker 3:

Hopper. Oh my God Brilliant.

Speaker 2:

Dude, that's an amazing scene when you have two. When you have, like, a brilliant actor doing like monologue and just killing it, like you know, like Alec Baldwin and Glenn Gary, glenn Ross and Donald Sutherland and JFK, it's really neat to watch when you have two of them going head to head in an incredible dialogue, character dialogue scene. I mean I you're mesmerized by that exchange.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

You know, when we first watched that we were very young men, because that came out a while back and I was just I just remember going God, that is really good right there. Yeah, yeah, really good. And that's all Tarant. Good right there. Yeah, yep, really good, and that's all Tarantino's words.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

He wrote that shit.

Speaker 3:

It's amazing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was brilliant stuff. So, yeah, yeah, it was good, I love it. Christian Slater and the prequel to Dexter that ought to be really, really good. All right, kevin Kwan, I've got to wrap up. I've got to trade and make a little bit of money.

Speaker 3:

There you go. Stop at 666.

Speaker 2:

So stupid, Is that stupid? And then my friend saying well, you let the devil win, then he's right. You should have just closed down your computer and said you devil, I made $666. I don't care.

Speaker 3:

Or call the late Charlie Daniels. He knows how to take care of them.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, or you know, if you know, just if I would have donated some of that money to the church, I'd have been good. There you go. That was another thing he said. All right, love doing these podcasts. This has been a blast. Kevin Klein.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it has it just goes by so fast, you know, but it's why we look forward to Mondays.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it has it just goes by so fast, you know, but it's why we look forward to Mondays. So make sure you all, to keep this thing going, go ahead and like us, follow us, download, subscribe. Give us a rating, please, so we can grow this thing. We got merch on the Title, client, facebook and Kev. What do you have coming up this week on the Fuzzy Mike podcast?

Speaker 3:

Talk with the lead singer of Rorschach Test. It's a band that I saw with Jenna Tortures in 1998. They kind of fell off the map for about 10 to 20 years because James Baker was going through addiction counseling and something I didn't know. Not only did he do that, he went and got his bachelor's degree and is now a behavioral therapist, a behavioral health therapist, and he's talking about suicide prevention and all that kind of stuff, but we also talk about some of the crazy crap that he did on tour as an addict.

Speaker 2:

I love the name of the band too the Rorschach Test.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know that's the inkblots.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly. And he discusses why they called it Rorschach Test. And it's exactly why you would think, because the music is open for your interpretation, I.

Speaker 2:

And it's exactly why you would think because the music is open for your interpretation.

Speaker 3:

I love that. Yeah, so you know. There's no set visual image that you're supposed to get from a Rorschach test. It's a look inside your brain as to what you see on the inkblot.

Speaker 2:

Kevin, if I remember correctly, you said about this band that they have never made a single bad song.

Speaker 3:

I don't believe they have. No, no.

Speaker 2:

That's how I feel about you know, Bill Murray. He has never been in a bad movie, Uh-huh.

Speaker 3:

That's how you feel about Led Zeppelin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, led Zeppelin. I mean all their songs have. I mean every single one of their songs has some kind of a meaning and a way that it is really really beautiful art.

Speaker 3:

Now there's going to be some people who listen to Rorschach test and say I don't think they've ever made a good song. I mean, it's not for everybody.

Speaker 2:

And there's some people that'll watch the movie the mosquito coast and decide they want to punch me.

Speaker 1:

Later. Dude, that's it for this episode of the Tuttle and Klein show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode, and you can get more Klein on his podcast, the fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay, fuzzy friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle and Klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.

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