Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #24: Quirks, Questions, and Karaoke Comebacks
Ever wondered why dogs are so fascinated with human legs or what it would be like if humans acted the same way?
Join us on the Tuttle & Kline Show as we kick off with this hilarious observation and then shift gears to Tuttle's awkward dating experience watching "Oppenheimer." We dive into the historical and moral complexities surrounding the atomic bombings during World War II, Japan’s cultural comeback through karaoke, and the tragic downfall of J. Robert Oppenheimer. Tune in for a mix of humor, history, and personal anecdotes that promise to keep you entertained and informed.
Later in the episode, we get critical about government bureaucracy and socialist systems by comparing historical examples like the Soviet Union and North Korea. We highlight how voluntary contributions at local events can outshine mandatory fees and debate the merits of a flat tax system and tariffs.
Ever questioned the allocation of handicapped parking spaces? We humorously tackle that too, examining the broader inefficiencies they might cause. Packed with thought-provoking discussions and a healthy dose of satire, this segment promises to make you rethink conventional wisdom.
Finally, we share some deeply personal reflections, quirky health tips, and nostalgic memories. From sweat stains resembling religious figures to magician TV specials, we cover it all. Kline shares his desire towards becoming a media teacher, and we discuss the excitement of Olympic sports, particularly rugby and its unique appeal.
The episode concludes with a heartfelt conversation about the pressures faced by young athletes with famous parents and the societal implications of reckless behaviors like trying to outrun the police. Don't miss this rollercoaster of an episode that blends humor, insight, and a touch of nostalgia.
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show. Well, well, well, who can take tomorrow?
Speaker 2:Wrap it in a sigh. Hey, it's Kevin Kline, everybody.
Speaker 3:Tuttle. What's going on, Tuttle?
Speaker 2:Not much. I was just turning down my blind a little bit and I saw this guy outside who's struggling with his dog. Oh really, can you answer me a question, kevin Kline? I'll try. What is it about the human leg that dogs find so damn sexy? Good question, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. You know, like you'll see, I'm just all over a beautiful woman, you know, just a gorgeous woman, perfect body, you know.
Speaker 3:and so, and he's humping the leg yeah, yeah, no, and he doesn't get to know the lady or anything you know.
Speaker 2:Couldn't care less about personality and she doesn't call the cops on him. Very true, you did that, kevin. If you just walk up to a random beautiful lady and start humping her leg, you'd be doing 10 to 15.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'm not as cute number one, not as furry number two. Yeah, no, it would not turn out well for me no, no, so don't do that no I won't tim. I barely walk up to strange women and talk to them I know, man, I know that's your thing, kev.
Speaker 2:I speaking of uh beautiful women, I uh I just started dating somebody new girl yeah, I mean we we've been, yeah, we've been kind of friends. But you know, I don't know man. I made a tactical error. Oh, never watch Oppenheimer, why? With somebody who just started dating. I don't know man.
Speaker 3:It's a long movie, Well it's a long movie.
Speaker 2:She couldn't come out of being bummed out for, you know, for the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Understood.
Speaker 2:No matter how much I explained to her from a military, strategic and tactical way that Japanese soldiers had taught us up to that time that they were going to fight to the death, I mean, and they were going to, the citizens were and everything like that. From what we've seen from previous campaigns with them Iwo Jima and you know, all the islands leading up to Japan that they were Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they, they, they were not going to surrender. They would, they, they. Even if we it was, we would have lost probably five, five, five million guys trying to take Japan.
Speaker 3:OK, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because they were the citizens, the kids, the women, the children. They would have fought tooth and nail and on the streets of Tokyo. I mean, it would have been a really bad thing. And I was trying to explain that to her. It was like you know, yeah, you know you don't want to do that, but you got about 5 million American soldiers we kind of don't want to kill over the next three or four years. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Sure, no, I know that. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, not only are you battling the fearless Japanese, I mean, then you introduce Godzilla. I mean it's you know.
Speaker 2:I don't, yeah. And once that can you imagine? You know you get done. It's like you know you lose 5 million guys over three years. You finally take Tokyo and shit like that and then suddenly out of the ocean, fucking giant lizard starts walking. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Starts blasting your dudes with like rays coming out of the eyes? Yeah, nobody needs that, yeah. Starts blasting your dudes with like rays coming out of the eyes. Yeah, nobody needs that. Yeah, but I, you know, I, I. I tried to reassure her too. I said, hey, listen to me, trust me, japan has gotten their revenge since 1945. Periyoki.
Speaker 3:Yep, there you go peri-oke.
Speaker 2:Yep, there you go, they have. I mean, yeah, it's, it's sad that, uh, you know, instantly hundreds of thousands of people are incinerated, but that's in an instant, like split second. You give a random tone. Deaf person off the streets. You know a microphone where they can sing in front of public I will always love you or my heart will go on. That's four minutes of torture.
Speaker 3:Well, and then the memory lasts forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:It ruins that song.
Speaker 2:You live with it Exactly. You live with that. So, yeah, I mean Japan has more than gotten us back, did you like Oppenheimer? Oh, I with it. Exactly, you live with that. So, yeah, I mean Japan has more than gotten us back, did you like?
Speaker 3:Oppenheimer. Oh, I love it. It's a great movie, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, I loved it. I was riveted. It didn't even feel like a three plus hour movie. We saw the theater the first day it came out.
Speaker 2:It's brilliant. It was brilliant and it's too bad what they did to Oppenheimer man. Oh my God, dude, yeah, kevin, it just seems we have these, these evil control freaks, these evil fuckers. They get a taste of power and they just turn into these monsters, man?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so if you're not familiar with the story of Oppenheimer, it's a story about J Robert Oppenheimer, the founder or the creator of the atomic bomb, and he was commissioned by the United States government, through the Manhattan Project, to develop this weapon of mass destruction in the hopes that nobody would ever have to use it. But at least we had it. And they use it twice, president Truman. And then after that they start investigating Oppenheimer and try and frame him with McCarthyism, that he was some sort of a communist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now, you know, back then all the intellects like dabbled in the socialism and the communist, you know just, you know interested in the concept of it, and you couldn't even show interest in the concept of it without this witch hunt basically taking down and destroying your life. Now I agree, I mean, if you look at it, communism has never prevailed in any society. They've tried it many times. It's destructive, heinous, you know, uh, it's an elite class that live like kings and queens and opulence and everybody else is pretty much a fucking slave. So it's terrible, uh, but you know to, to, to, you know attend meetings and to talk about and stuff like that. There's nothing wrong with that, as we're America.
Speaker 3:Well, the thing is, how do you know if it's right for you or wrong for you? If you don't learn about it? How?
Speaker 2:do you learn about it.
Speaker 2:You go, yeah, you go you read about it and then any reasonable human being who's not an evil control freak that wants to be on the upper tier living in opulence while everybody else is a slave, will. We'll come to the conclusion of hey, man, this is not functional. If you don't give society a reason, a carrot to be productive, they won't be, and that's why the Soviet Union nobody gave a shit about getting the grain across the country anymore. They're like I don't get paid. No matter what I do and how hard I work, I get the same amount of loaves of bread and bowls of rice a week. So fuck it, I'm not motivated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, look at how happy the North Koreans are under Kim Jong-un. Kim Jong-il, you know. Look what happened in Chile with Augustus Pinochet.
Speaker 2:Not a very prosperous business model for the masses and and basically evil people use it as hey, you don't have to work, everybody gets the same, which sounds attractive to you know, people who are shiftless people. It really is. It sounds out, my god, really I. So I I'll get the same as this guy who works his butt off no matter what he does. It's, it's nonsensical and it's insane and only evil. Uh, are into that, you know. Yeah, because that's what it does. It creates.
Speaker 3:Hey, you slaves, will you know, you'll do your daily work, do grind it, we'll give you your bread and the rest of us here we're going to be at club med partying and, you know, having sex, orgies and shit you know it's, we've talked about this before, but to see how this works in, in what it looks like in reality, go take a trip to cape town, south africa, because you are going to see families of 10 to 20 living in a cardboard box that they use a bucket in the middle of the dirt floor to go urinate and defecate in. But then less than two, less than four miles away, on the top of a hill, you're going to see these white warlord mansions that have lush green yards and everything. That's basically what you're looking at.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's tragic, it's tragic. It's horrific. Yeah, it's just, we just tend to overdo things. Yeah, you want to be charitable and you want to help out, but you know let's not make it complete socialism. And you, we don't need the Kev. We've noticed, because of the bureaucratic surcharge, that having government being in charge of that is not effective, cost effective, whereas people on their own are charitable People and it goes, the money and the charity goes right to the people.
Speaker 3:Dude. Let's go back to our days of radio in Birmingham, when they had that, the city stages and the year that they actually charged a $15 admission, guess what. Their participation ship was down the next year, when they did it by donation only at the gate you could donate whatever you wanted. They exceeded their expectations by 100%.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly. People have the tendency to do the right thing Most people. We don't need your bureaucratic surcharge to get in the way, so stay the fuck out of it. Everything you touch you ruin anyway. Just let the private situation take care of itself.
Speaker 3:So you're a math guy. Do you remember a long time ago when a guy named Steve Forbes was running for an independent candidacy for the United States president and he proposed a 15% flat tax?
Speaker 2:Yes, Would that work? Yeah, absolutely you. Just the problem is is the bureaucracy is so huge. Now they need trillions and trillions. You know you won't even need a flat tax. I like Trump's tariff idea. You know we get our revenue from tariffs.
Speaker 3:But then are we going to be paying more for those imports.
Speaker 2:But, kev, you'll have more income to afford it. There'll be a slight price increase, but you keep all of your money. Okay, all of your money.
Speaker 3:I just ask questions.
Speaker 2:And you decide what you want to spend it on. Uh-huh yeah. And if you look at any program and anything Kev there's like 20, 25% is to cover the bureaucracy expenses, all the unnecessary salaries and the ridiculousness they have to execute these programs.
Speaker 3:Well, have you ever looked at a bill that's, you know, being passed around the house and the Senate? It could be a bill on I'm just going to hypothetically throw something out. It could be a bill on a operation of widgets. Okay, we want to create a new widget factory. All right, that ain't what they're voting on. That ain't the sole thing. They try and ram a bunch of what they call pork.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous, Kev. I've actually tried to read full bills before.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:And I get so angry I can't. I have to stop. I'm serious, I get so angry. I mean I, you know, I, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, anyway, Kev yeah.
Speaker 3:Anyway, here we are hey if you ifv.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyway, here we are. Hey, have you noticed something? There's like a recent trend in retail establishments and malls and everything like that Are there too many handicapped parking spaces?
Speaker 3:now I'm trying to think because, yeah, we were at a restaurant the other day and there were five handicapped spaces on the front row and only two non.
Speaker 2:Kev there's some of the big box uh retail establishment. They got 15, 20 handicap spaces.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, wow, you know, and they're, they're, most of them are empty, Sure and and, and you know I don't mind walking myself.
Speaker 3:We try. We park farther away.
Speaker 2:I like, yeah, I like that, but you know still, but still not everybody can do that. You've got small kids, but you don't have a handicap sticker. You're basically playing Frogger and it makes me wonder how many people became handicapped because they had to walk from across the street, across traffic, because they couldn't park right. Yeah, we always overdo it, we always overdo it. We just overdo everything.
Speaker 3:Well, the irony of all of that would then be that, if anybody is going to use online shopping, wouldn't it be handicapped people, because they can't get around the store more freely and they can't navigate the parking lot more freely?
Speaker 2:I'm just saying.
Speaker 3:It's an observation.
Speaker 2:And that's all you have to do is observe, like if you just have, like, some manager at a store going, you know what I look out there like every 15 minutes and maybe three or four of them are covered. We probably can make the other 15, you know regular spaces. We probably could do that.
Speaker 3:You know I'd pick up, could do that.
Speaker 2:Earthside pickup Exactly.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of those now too.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, which I'm fine with you know, that's great, but yeah, I just the blue handicap spaces. I'm like wow, man, you know, yeah, and it just makes you wonder how many like pregnant moms had to go park out in you know West Hell and make the three-quarter of a mile journey to the front door, you know.
Speaker 3:Well, and how many of those handicap blue things that you hang from your mirror? How many are legit?
Speaker 2:Oh, kev, you know I hate that too and I try not to judge, but I do Like when I see somebody get out and they're just completely able-bodied and they run, I just I hate that I've had to button my lip. I just had to like no, no, tim Don't, tim, don't, don't, because I just want to be like oh hey, you look like you recover pretty good, but I don't, yeah, cause I don't know there should could be some mitigating shit there that you can't see.
Speaker 3:Well, it's like my mom, my mother-in-law, when when she drives she has handicapped sticker. When I drive her, I drop her and my wife Trish off at the front door and then I'll go park far away, then I'll walk back out and I'll get the car and bring them back up.
Speaker 2:Well, you just like to do that because it's less time having to spend with them.
Speaker 3:Damn, figured it out.
Speaker 2:You got. You can like that alone time. Klein, don't hand me your bullshit of oh, I'm going to be Mr Fucking ballet guy here.
Speaker 3:It's tough.
Speaker 2:And I always thought, kev, speaking of the you know, the hip replacement, knee replacement, all the body part replacements, I thought by the time we got to the age and there's still some time that a lot of that would be bionic by now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, didn't you think so? Yeah, we're allowed to believe.
Speaker 2:I thought, you know, because I've had some knee issues, because you know I was a big jumper and everything like that.
Speaker 3:Football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and all that you know sports and everything. I want bionic knees. I want to see if you know, maybe I can get that vertical back, because, kev, I don't know if you knew this I used to fly.
Speaker 3:I've heard, well, I've seen, I've seen you jump.
Speaker 2:I used to dunk, I used to. Yeah, you've seen me jump over a car I have, yeah, you were there, impressive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know, I, I, I thought by the time we got there that that we would have like some options where it's like hey, you want these to be leaper knees or do you want speed knees? What do you want? And you know, you get, you get the uh, you get the, the uh. Nymphomaniacac, she goes, I want on my knees, knees, yeah okay. Yeah, we have a padding thing here. We'll go, just yeah, we'll give you that, we'll give you that option a little extra cushion all right, kev, what's going on with your?
Speaker 2:you got a text from your uncle that. Is there something we should be concerned with here? Which uncle is it? Is it something we should be concerned with here? Which uncle is it Is?
Speaker 3:it Ron, I remember Ron. Yeah, yeah, he's the only one that I'm ever in contact with my uncle, ron. We played golf with him a couple of times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a big money man back in the day.
Speaker 3:He did all right, so he emailed I did not know. Remember last time when we were talking about my family doesn't listen to the podcast? Yeah, nobody in my family. Yeah, he texted me. Hey, kev, being honest, I listen to your podcast each week during workouts, maybe not on the release date, but sometime during the week, so that gives you at least one family member other than in-laws that listens. He goes on. Tim's dream about being the suicide arbiter and showing someone what their life would be like without them Sounds a lot like Clarence and it's a wonderful life.
Speaker 2:Oh so.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you go. So I got a family member.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got one family member, and what's his handicap these days? Well, he just oh, I'm going to get this wrong.
Speaker 2:I remember him being a shooter.
Speaker 3:He went to Q school twice. I know that, um yeah, which is qualifying school for your PGA tour card. He just I think what I want to say that last time I talked to him was a couple of weeks ago and he won the uh member member uh championship for the second year in a row.
Speaker 2:Okay, so he's really good.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm sure I will get a text message while he's working out and we'll get this clarification for you next week.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Cause we know he listens now.
Speaker 2:Okay, ron, good to hear from you. You know, maybe someday we can play a little golf. Yeah, I'd love to, kev. I've gotten some great feedback. People were fascinated by the kind of new feature we launched last week. It's our Be Honest.
Speaker 4:Be honest, be honest.
Speaker 3:You like that intro. That was good. It's kind of catchy tune, right.
Speaker 2:I like how you whipped that together.
Speaker 3:Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people like this because they're like oh man, that's neat, and they're answering in their car and at home when they're listening.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's highly contagious, Definitely.
Speaker 2:By the way, feel free. You can go to our Facebook Tuttle Kline Facebook, tuttle Kline Instagram. Go ahead and like us and follow us and everything like that, and you can weigh in on any of the features or anything that we talk about during the podcast. We appreciate it. While you're there, please give us a rating if you're on a podcast platform and do us a favor and download, because we need downloads. That's our thing.
Speaker 2:Well, give us a be honest also, if you have a be honest question you want us to answer, yeah, and for example, for those scratching their head maybe didn't hear it last week it's something like this Kev, be honest, Do you have to look in the toilet after you drop a deuce? Oh, you have to. You have to make sure that there's nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, I mean read any article about gastrointestinal. Your poop tells you a lot about your health.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah I just, I don't do it to admire anything, although sometimes you you drop some cable, that's very admirable. But you know I do it just to make sure all systems are go.
Speaker 3:Dude, I'm going to be honest with you. I dropped one once and it looked exactly like the poop emoji. I am going to be honest with you. I dropped one once and it looked exactly like the poop emoji. It did it looked like Dairy Queen soft serve. It was just like total swirl man. It was so awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got to tell you, I dropped one, you know, last week and it looks like George Soros Exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but no, I do I, I, I yeah. Exactly yeah, yeah, but no, I do I, I, I yeah. I'll look every time kevin, that reminds me.
Speaker 2:Do you remember when? I think it was this? I think this is birmingham 2000, or maybe earlier. I don't, I can't remember where you know, I had an armpit stain and it looked like jesus we did.
Speaker 3:We made a whole bit out of that armpit stain Jesus.
Speaker 2:Where people were calling the station and were asking armpit Jesus about their future and how they would die and when they would die, and armpit Jesus would answer them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, literally it looked like Jesus in the armpit sweat stain, it was great.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say that I have anything devout or holy about me, but there was that one time, about 20 years ago, where my armpit stain looked exactly like Jesus.
Speaker 3:And it spoke to us.
Speaker 2:And it had a voice too. Yeah, it sounded like Doug Henning, thank you.
Speaker 3:The old magician.
Speaker 2:yeah, Thank you. Thank you, kev. Do you remember that stuff when you, the magicians, used to have like full primetime specials and shit like that when we were kids?
Speaker 3:Absolutely remember that.
Speaker 2:Copperfield and yeah.
Speaker 3:Doug Henning yeah.
Speaker 2:I love Doug Henning.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Woo, thank you. How could you not? Is he still alive? Doug Henning.
Speaker 3:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:Well, if he is, it'd be magic.
Speaker 3:It would be magic.
Speaker 2:Is Copperfield still alive?
Speaker 3:Yes, he is yeah.
Speaker 2:He was at one time with, like the hottest woman on the planet, claudia Schiffer, wasn't he? Yes, he was, I remember.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was like, and woman on the planet.
Speaker 2:Claudia Schiffer, wasn't he? Yes, he was. I remember. Okay, I was like, and I remember just going God man, just by doing magic, look what you can do, Right. So I was trying to work on the card tricks.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But you've always been good at making them disappear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I get beautiful women too, but they disappear. Thanks, gav. You're welcome, buddy, I'm here for you. Thanks for the reminder, buddy. All right, I got another one. Um be honest, do you wish ill on athletes that you bet against or root?
Speaker 3:against. Uh, I do root against people, but I don't wish ill on them. Like you know, a superstar goes down with an injury. I'm like man. That is unfortunate that you know, because now you don't get the truest form of competition right, right, that's true, that's true, so you want to you want to beat the exactly. No, I don't wish ill.
Speaker 2:I have to admit, kevin, that in my younger days, when I was a little smaller of a person that occasionally I would wish ill upon athletes that I hated. Teams that I hated Not quite to the point where I wish their plane would go down, or something like that. I hated teams that I hated, not quite to the point where I wish their plane would go down, or something like that. But you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, which just happened? What happened In the Andes? It was made into a movie, oh alive, alive, yeah, yeah, yeah, alive.
Speaker 2:I thought you said there's a new one that just happened. This happened like when we were little kids.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, oklahoma state. Their bus crashed and killed 11 of their athletes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Marshall the football the thundering herd. Thank God, matthew McConaughey was there, absolutely. He led them on afterwards, but yeah, I, you know. I, yeah, I'm not proud, you know. I then I figured, you know, because, because I had that thought process that it was bad karma because I was losing a lot of bets that way.
Speaker 3:It is bad karma.
Speaker 2:So I stopped doing that. I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3:Well, that's good. We call that growth. We grow as humans.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I'm not proud of some of the things that I used to do and say and think about. I'm not, and even to this day, there's things I think about that I wouldn't want the general public to know.
Speaker 3:That's why we do Be Honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this feature could get really really hardcore.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it could.
Speaker 2:We're just nibbling around the edges and doing the G version right now. Kev.
Speaker 3:Yeah, our toes are being dipped in the ocean right now. We have not jumped headfirst. Be honest, Jimmy. Have you ever trolled anybody online?
Speaker 2:Have I ever trolled anybody online Kev again, as a younger man, when the online thing you know was happening, I used to mess with people in the comment section just for fun. I just watched them get enraged and it kind of made me laugh how you could literally have somebody just like threatened to kill you because of some words you typed in.
Speaker 3:I figured that your answer would have been yes on that, because I know that when you fill out applications and stuff like that, you oftentimes write joke answers. So I figured you know, just to get a rise out of the person, that you oftentimes write joke answers. So I figured you know just to get a rise out of the person that you're submitting to.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah I I I'll admit I I haven't much lately, um because you know, again.
Speaker 4:This, it's the karma thing I want to.
Speaker 2:I want to keep my chi clear.
Speaker 3:That's a good thing to keep clear.
Speaker 2:Is that a thing? Hold on, did I use that right? Yeah, keep my chi clear. Is that a thing?
Speaker 3:Hold on, did I use that right? Yeah, keep my chi clear. Yeah, c-h-i Keep your chi clear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's my motto going forward.
Speaker 3:I like that motto. It's good Keeping the chi clear, baby. Yeah, so you meditate, you clear your chi, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like changing out a filter. So that's what it sounds like it does, doesn't it? Yeah, hey, kevin, I'm being a little late on the call. I got to clear my chief.
Speaker 3:Then I'm going to turn around and look in the toilet and admire it. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:It looks like Kamala Harris. I like. I like how people who thought she was an idiot before now are like oh, she's brilliant, this will be great.
Speaker 3:I'm like what. You just called her an idiot three weeks ago. Yeah, it's amazing how things turn around really fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you got the money.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that was interesting. I love Bionis. Any other Bionis?
Speaker 3:That was the only one that I was really curious about. This week I'm going to go back to the drawing board and create some more.
Speaker 2:Then let's do this, kev, let's hop right into our rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:Rabbit hole of the week.
Speaker 2:All right. Where did you find yourself wasting incessant hours on this past week, Kev.
Speaker 3:I wasted a crap load of time tracking down my college transcripts.
Speaker 2:Now can I ask what you would need your college transcripts for 30 years later?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know right. I think I found a new passion in life and I need a bachelor's degree to pursue it.
Speaker 2:Whoa okay, whoa okay, hold on a second. He need okay for those unaware kevin uh has massive amount of credits. Probably has more college credits than I did. I think I think we did a count before. Uh, I have my degree, though, and just skin over the you know by one, and kev's got probably got 10 12 more credit hours than me, but since he transferred so much, a lot of them don't transfer over, so he's a little bit shy of his bachelor's degree. I don't think you want to do anything like lawyer or doctor or anything like that. No, no, no, okay, because those two you absolutely need to at least have your bachelor's and even further education. What do you need a bachelor's degree for? That Kevin Kwan would be interested in. I don't think you need him to be a referee of a major sport. It's not a referee. No Sports referee.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:You don't want to be a certified accountant or anything like that, because he's terrible at math. He's a fucking idiot at math.
Speaker 3:I'm a big idiot at math. Four times seven.
Speaker 2:Four times seven Kev. Four times seven, 28. Good job, that's better than usual.
Speaker 3:But it took you four times to say it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I give up. What is it that you need a bachelor's degree for? I want to be a teacher.
Speaker 3:What I want? To be a mentor. I want to be a media teacher.
Speaker 2:You want to be a media teacher?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I had a taste of it a little bit last year and I was watching a YouTube channel by this little nine-year-old kid who has interviewed at nine years of age. He has 385 episodes on his podcast and he has interviewed people that we talk to, tim, and I want to teach him. I mean, at nine years old I wouldn't have the balls to do what this kid does.
Speaker 2:Give me an example. This is Rockin' with Jam man.
Speaker 1:This is with James Baker from Aurora Shack Test.
Speaker 2:So how are you doing, man? I'm doing great. I'm currently in Las Vegas at the Venetian Hotel, looking out my window at the Sphere, so it's been a pretty cool day. How's life treating you? Life could not be better, my friend.
Speaker 3:I want to mentor him and then I'm like, well, why'd you stop with him? You know, media is fun. It was my favorite thing to do in school, so I'm pursuing that, timmy.
Speaker 2:So you have to have a degree to do that. You can't just be like a special consultant or something like that. Do you want to do it at a university or something or a high school?
Speaker 3:I want to do it like on a high school or the middle school level.
Speaker 2:Are you even allowed near high schools and middle schools?
Speaker 3:Well, you know my freshman year of high school, freshman year of college, my first semester was a 2.14.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mine was bad too, I told you. I mean, you know, after the first year my dad was done paying, he was done.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, mine was about just barely over a two and my dad was like I'm not paying for your fucking party anymore. Dude, that's all you're doing with me.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a party, it was just the adjusting, uh, being away from home. But then number two was the baseball. Uh, my, only my. My second semester went up 2.25 and that's simply because the coach called a professor and said klein gets a d really oh yeah, dude. Oh yeah if you're in athletics, oh yeah damn man.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I didn't know you struggled like that. You seem like a book smart person, the harry potter look of yours well then, my next two years were three, five, three, six kevin, I started the same way. I'm just barely hanging on. Then the core stuff got out of the way and I got into the marketing and business classes, which were right up my pipeline.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I think I finished with like a 3.1 or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I finished with a 2.75.
Speaker 2:2.75. Hey, that's good enough to teach high school and middle school. Yeah, there you go. That's awesome, man, that you want to do that. You should do it. How many credit hours do you need?
Speaker 3:I don't know. Trish is checking that out right now. So OSU does offer online college graduation. So I may well be an OSU alum soon, timmy, who knows?
Speaker 2:Wow, that's awesome, buddy Thanks. And I remember her name. Her name was Catherine McHale. Who knows? Wow, that's awesome, buddy Thanks. And now you can. And I remember her name. Her name was Catherine McHale.
Speaker 3:Catherine McHale.
Speaker 2:She was the lady uh 20 years ago when we called the uh OSU alumni office that, or whatever, she wouldn't allow you to call yourself an alumni.
Speaker 3:No, she would not.
Speaker 2:She said former student, you could just call her up and go fuck you. No, I would not do that, I just call her up and go fuck you.
Speaker 3:No, I would not do that. I would call her up and say hey, guess what? 30 years later, you motivated us.
Speaker 2:No, you should say hey, you like apples. How do you like these apples?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 3:Thanks, yeah, I I did, uh I helped a local uh middle school with their media class uh last, uh, last fall, and oh my God, it was so much fun, so much fun. Love teaching them.
Speaker 2:That's great man. Thanks, that's good. That's that's rewarding, you know. Yeah, yeah, I had an ex who was a fifth grade teacher and there were a couple of days that I went in there and you know it was neat because you know she let me like really help because she was a math. She was a big math, so I was right on my pipeline. Yeah, and you know, when you feel like you can touch a kid, I didn't mean it.
Speaker 3:Not Michael Jackson, right, yeah, get through to a child.
Speaker 2:Like when you can show them a method to get to the answer quicker. It's very rewarding.
Speaker 3:It is yeah, and you know just the knowledge and the experience that we have. You know, I think they'd probably listen. Oh gosh Kev you would be a great media.
Speaker 2:Uh, teacher, oh thanks, and you could pipe me in and skype me in and we could do a q a or something like that absolutely.
Speaker 3:Oh, I, I would show portions of the podcast. Show them what real chemistry is like real small portions.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, yeah, yeah, and don't, don't, you know, ask to clear it either, because if you ask to clear it, they're not going to clear.
Speaker 3:You doing it oh, of course not they're going to be like you're going.
Speaker 2:You're going to show what podcast? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Instead of you teaching though, we'll have some we'll have some people reading them stories that shouldn't be reading them stories.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, there you go. But yeah, that was my rabbit hole Chasing down of the transcripts.
Speaker 2:You know, kev, speaking of chasing my rabbit hole also involved chasing what I found just out of nowhere a car chase channel.
Speaker 3:Like, do you show them live?
Speaker 2:Not live. Oh, which is even better. It's like the edited versions of them and they're awesome. Man, oh, my god, kev, I think I watched five hours on Thursday, three hours. I couldn't stop watching. I mean, it's just, I was like fascinated by it. And you remember we well, we always talked about the concept of we don't understand why people who are being chased, uh, when they see that helicopter, the eye in the sky and that, why don't they just stop because they're they're like, why don't we just stop Because they're caught?
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Remember we always said that Right, yeah, we have Not necessarily true.
Speaker 3:No kidding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what a lot of people do, and I hesitate to give this up in case there's any people who are looking to get into a car chase soon. I don't want to, well, but you know it's just you and me talking. I can't be responsible. Right, who's listening? All you have to do is, if you're being chased and you see the helicopter over you and you have some space obviously from the squad cars behind is get to an overpass where the helicopter can't see you anymore and then turn around and go back the way you came from and then just drive normal speed. That's how you shake a helicopter. Is it really because they're going out the other side waiting for your you know color car to speed through the other side of it?
Speaker 2:yeah they don't, they, they don't, uh you know, they don't, uh, you know. Once they realize that, hey, he's not coming out, by the time they come over to the other side to try to find you, you're already blended.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you have yeah.
Speaker 2:Now I know what was your question. You have a question.
Speaker 3:I was going to say the only time I've ever seen somebody escape uh the helicopter. They were driving in downtown Los Angeles and they ended up going through a uh uh uh were driving in downtown Los Angeles and they ended up going through a suburban street area where their trees grew over the road. Then they parked the car underneath the canopy and got out and ran and they couldn't find them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, see, it's very hard for the helicopter because the helicopter isn't maneuverable. It takes a little while to turn that thing around and obviously they can't see if there's some coverage below. But, kev, there is one thing that you might as well just give up Is if it's your car, if it's not stolen, if it's your car and they got your plate number, it's a complete waste of time because they're eventually going to come to your house.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's just, you are absolutely, just, completely wasting your time. It's already over. Don't be an idiot and kill innocent bystanders, because some of these wrecks are so horrific? Oh yeah, they are horrific and you know I, yeah, I got angry, you know, at some of them. You know, because they killed innocent people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, that happens quite often yeah, you know, that's just that.
Speaker 2:That to me is uh, you uh, I mean next level evil yeah, well, it brings another charge, that's for sure well, not only that, I mean you just there's kids involved and stuff like that. I I mean you can sit around and joke about car chases and stuff like that and be fascinated with them, but anybody that does them is a fucking asshole.
Speaker 3:Absolutely yeah. So let's make that clear right now Right, so a lot of them happen in Los Angeles yeah.
Speaker 2:Los Angeles is the world capital of car chases and bank robberies.
Speaker 3:And I don't know his last name and I don't know what station he works for now, but his first name is Stu and he is the reporter in the sky in the helicopter. Dude is comical man. Dude is so funny doing play-by-play.
Speaker 2:I think I heard some of his stuff.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm sure you did, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think I heard some of his stuff.
Speaker 3:And his photographer. Now his camera guy is the cinematographer that we had on Delivering Hope.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, that's funny.
Speaker 3:I know Marcel very well.
Speaker 2:I think I know, I think I remember one time he said the guy was being an idiot. You know, in the car chase that's stew and and you know he passed a like a clown store in a strip mall and he goes. I'm surprised this idiot didn't go in there and get some stuff. What a clown dude, that is absolutely stew, oh yeah yeah, yeah, that guy yeah, I know who you're talking about threw it a big uh parking lot out here is another one of those spots.
Speaker 4:You just don't expect somebody to come tearing through at those high speeds Some pedestrians out there as well, making another. It looks like a major block here. But that one LAPD officer I mean my goodness, to stay with this guy so well. You know that person clearly did well in the driving classes and definitely gets the gold star of the day. Oh shoot.
Speaker 2:And I just thought of something Kev, oh what, I guess, even if they get your plate number, you could just like go abandon the car somewhere and then you call in hey, my car's been stolen.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I gave that idea.
Speaker 3:But you're just full of ideas for nefarious activity today.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be that guy, though I'm a law-abiding citizen.
Speaker 3:Now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now, it took a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it took a little while.
Speaker 2:It took being whistled at when I was 17 years old, in prison, when I was in prison for 55 hours.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we've never talked about that story. That's a great one.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's um. I was 17 years old, I get arrested. This is like the third time in three months I've been arrested for for it's just underage consumption Cause. We lived in a uh Nazi city where, uh mayor Jane Ryman wanted to make a big deal of busting all these uh people that go to parties for drinking because she saw it as a big revenue stream. What she didn't realize was she was destroying the future of the town's youth because once they had these charges on them, there were certain schools they couldn't get into jobs they couldn't get because she had to have the money and the revenue to jobs they couldn't get because she had to have the money and the revenue.
Speaker 2:Anyway, it was my third bust in three months and since you're 17, you have to have your parents get you out, so I couldn't have, like, an older sibling or a friend who'd already turned 18 bail me out. I had to wait for my parents, and my parents were over in Europe and just had landed there when they got the call, so my dad headed back immediately from Europe, took a while, though, to route everything, so I was in there for 55 hours. But when I was in there for 55 hours, that was all I needed to know. Hey, incarceration is not going to be good for me. First off, I was cellmates with the guy who had killed the school janitor for computer stuff. Really, yeah yeah. He was arrested and charged with that, so I was in the jail cell with him. He was my bunkmate, did you know?
Speaker 4:him in high school?
Speaker 2:No, oh, never. Never saw him, never heard him. I don't even think he was from our school.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, all right.
Speaker 2:Uh, and then, um, um, you know, they, they, they had us. They didn't have juvenile showers, so we had to take a shower in the adult area and you walk past the adults and that was not good. Yeah, forget it, because that was kind of pretty.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I learned right there from the words and the whistles that I did not want to be here.
Speaker 3:Yep, and you never went back. That's good.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have never gone back and knock on wood, never planned to.
Speaker 3:Dude, what did your dad say when he got you out after having to fly another nine hours back home?
Speaker 2:Dude. I wish he would have yelled. My dad was not a yeller. I mean, I can count on one hand how many times I heard my dad yell and I was expecting to be yelled at. But even worse, total silence.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 2:Just, I'm disappointed in you, Tim.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know this is the third time and you know the lawyer that the lawyer I have from a friend of mine who's handling these cases uh said if you have one more he's not sure he could keep me out of jail. Yeah, so I'm. He said that's it and that's it. He didn't say another word about it. I was wanting him to just go. You know that hurt more. That hurt more than him just going off on me.
Speaker 3:Oh, anytime you get the disappointment, that's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would rather to be beaten to a pulp with a switch than to have my dad disappointed in me.
Speaker 3:Did your mom fly home or did she stay over in Europe? Oh, she stayed there. Uh-huh, he flew back though, right yeah, wow yeah, he did. Dad's just helping to get your freaking flyer miles up. That's all. That was no joking matter.
Speaker 2:That was not good man. Yeah, why did that come up?
Speaker 3:I feel bad that that just came up right now, uh-huh, yeah, well, cause we had never talked about it before and you were talking about, uh you know, early on your, your prolific criminal career.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, yeah, Minor consumption. I was just. I was so hardened. What are you in for? Oh, just being backed into the corner in a house when the police came you know, I couldn't get. I couldn't get out. You know, oh, just being backed into the corner in a house when the police came, you know, I couldn't get out. A lot of people got out. They just windows and stuff like that. By the time I knew what was going on, it was too late. Sure Kev. Yeah, the Olympics. Have you been watching at all?
Speaker 3:Yes, we have watched a little bit.
Speaker 2:You know what I love what, and I didn't know I loved it until I started watching it. Are you kidding me with how cool rugby is, oh?
Speaker 3:rugby's great.
Speaker 2:Holy cow, I love it. I've just been a moderate observer of it. I started getting into it.
Speaker 3:I was like this is awesome. Rugby is awesome. Yeah, was like this is awesome, rugby is awesome. Yeah. No, it's fantastic. We have a great relationship with the Houston Sabercats, the Houston rugby team, but the sport itself my brother-in-law played it is awesome.
Speaker 2:Holy and Kev, that's all I was thinking, Because when I was at Ball State we had a club rugby team and I was friends with some of the rugby guys and they're like Tuttle, you got to play, man, you got speed, you can jump, but these guys were like no neck guys.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, no, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2:They were, you know, back then I was a little spindly. You know I was a little more fast twitch looking. You know I had that basketball body that you know, which is great for athleticism and speed and jumping and everything like that, but I just didn't want to get murdered, yeah. But I regret that now because you know I see people that were my size. They play some of the positions where you need some of the speed demons.
Speaker 3:Oh, definitely.
Speaker 2:So I'm bummed out, I'm like damn, I missed that one. I should have done that.
Speaker 3:And not to say that injuries don't occur in rugby because they do, but the rate of concussion syndrome in rugby is enormously lower than in the NFL. The injury rate serious injury rate is lower in rugby than it is in the NFL. Rugby is played without a helmet and without pads.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't go in like a missile headfirst.
Speaker 3:Exactly. It teaches you true technique.
Speaker 2:It's got to be arms and shoulders, Arms and shoulders, Otherwise you could kill yourself Easily. So yeah, but yeah, I'm wondering if there are senior leagues.
Speaker 3:Oh, I bet there are. Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 2:Like obviously it would have to be a much smaller field well, you wouldn't even need to get in a senior league.
Speaker 3:You could get in a uh, because they don't have, they can't have an age group. But you can get in a club team somewhere in houston. I guarantee you could really. I mean, dude, we're only our age in number, we are not our age in activity, physical level. No way, there's no way I can still move.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I can still move you know, I, I, I'm saying I can still move.
Speaker 2:You know I have to warm. You know, back in the day I didn't have to warm up, I didn't have to stretch.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, no yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, I got to. You know, okay, like even before a workout, I got to. You know, I got to get the body ready for the pain, you know Right, but yeah, outside I would love that man. I'm going to check that out. Yeah, look it up. What position would I play? You know, one of the see? That's the thing I couldn't understand. I think the big dudes are all out front.
Speaker 3:Yes, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:And the smaller guys are more, you know, like in the back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but everybody gets to carry the ball. I mean it's just oh yeah, I mean it's just oh yeah, I mean you know when you're fanning out and when they're fanning out and they're flipping it outside.
Speaker 2:I mean, just to be one of those guys, I can do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you get on the outside, you're the one with the speed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll get there. I'll get there, I'll smell it. I smell the goal line. I'm an asshole. Two, if I smell the goal line, I'm putting the fucking ball in.
Speaker 3:There's the two rules that he lived by.
Speaker 2:And they call that a try. By the way, that's a try.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's what the official term is.
Speaker 2:I was looking it all up and everything Kev. I'm like I need to know more about this. I was even watching videos of World Cup rugby and shit like that. I was getting into it.
Speaker 3:Oh, dude, new, Zealand, the All Blacks, they're amazing. Yeah, new Zealand's good.
Speaker 2:South Africa's good. France is good. Yeah, france won the gold and I was watching Kev in the Olympics the seven-person. The women were great too. Our US rugby team the seven-person. We got some badasses on that team.
Speaker 3:You know, the Kansas City Chiefs signed a New Zealand rugby player as a wide receiver this year.
Speaker 2:I was wondering, you know, because they have to scout rugby too, because some of these guys are flying.
Speaker 3:Well, the majority of rugby scouting is done for kickers. Oh, yeah, yeah, they can kick the shit out of the ball.
Speaker 2:I can't even believe that. I'm like you're going to try to get the extra two from there. It's like a weird angle and it's much tighter than the field goal and they're hitting it. I'm like, damn man, that's good, yeah, and it's a drop kick.
Speaker 3:It is yep.
Speaker 2:And I'm just like this is really really good shit. Yeah, yeah, kev, I feel awful. I mean, you know that last week I was today years old before I really discovered rugby, and now I'm just, I'm loving it.
Speaker 3:Cool, well, I'll get you hooked up with Strewn over at the Sabercats Please do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, yeah, please do, yeah, man, yeah, Please do. And speaking of which, our top three is related.
Speaker 1:Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher it's Tuttle Kline's top three.
Speaker 2:Okay, Kev, top three all-time Olympic moments that you remember watching. Top three all-time Olympic moments that you remember watching. I'm going to take the ice hockey away from you oh, okay, well, that would have been number one because you and I have both uh declared our love for that already, uh-huh.
Speaker 3:So so you got to go in another direction okay, um, I don't remember what year it was, I think it was, maybe was it 1984. Was carl lewis in uh olympic stadium in uh? That's one of mine too.
Speaker 2:When he got the, when he was getting what did he get? Four gold medals, yeah, uh-huh in, uh 100, uh 200.
Speaker 3:He got it in the four by 100 and the long jump yep which was jesse owens oh yeah, carl lewis is amazing, just yeah and I love how some people will go.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, the Russians weren't there. There was no fucking Soviet Union Russian guy that was going to take any of that away from Carl Lewis. No, no, not at all. And he, of course, is a UH Coug. Salute to you, carl Lewis. Love him, except when he sings the national anthem.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's pretty funny. Dude, speaking of national anthem, did you see what Ingrid Andrus did before the home run derby? Yeah, that was not good, oh man, no, she's a good friend of ours.
Speaker 1:And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air gave proof through the night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was not. I felt for. I felt bad for her. I watched that live because I was excited, you know, because we developed a friendship with Ingrid. And then you know literally two sentences in I'm like, ooh, this is not good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nope, never heard of her. Don't know her. Yeah, don't know her. Ingrid who?
Speaker 2:I don't know any Ingrids.
Speaker 3:Then I'm gonna go with, then I'm gonna go with. It was Carrie Strug that did the one-leg vault, right? Yes, she landed on one foot. Yes, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2:I remember that moment, see to me, though, going back to the, I don't know why it is, it's probably our age. The 84 Olympics is just unbelievable, because I that was Mary Lou Retton.
Speaker 3:Was it Okay, yeah, do you remember Mary Lou Retton. Absolutely, mary yeah.
Speaker 2:That was big in terms of gymnastics. Mary Lou Retton is the one for me. Uh-huh, okay, again, another Houston woman. Uh, kev, what is the deal with Simone Biles? She does shit that I don't think anybody has ever even thought about trying.
Speaker 3:I think she now has five maneuvers named after her Like that have never, ever been done before and they're actually named after her now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she does things that I've never seen a human do. I really haven't. I really have you, have you? I? I mean some of that stuff. No, I mean the, the, the number of flips and the twisties and all that stuff. I'm like it's just like off the mat too. I'm like, no, that doesn't. You're not supposed to be able to do that no yeah, what's going on with it? I mean that calf, that to me. You ever seen a water bug? How fast they are.
Speaker 3:No, I don't recall.
Speaker 2:The water bug on the surface, bugs that just fly real fast. She is reminds me of a water bug, you know, just unbelievable just gone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just gone. I wonder how much of an advantage she has being only four feet nine. Oh, is that what she is? She's four nine. Yeah, well, they have a picture of her, uh, standing back to back with one of the guys on the us volleyball team who's six eight, and they have her listed at four eight I was gonna say, man, you know she's from houston also, yes, and shack has a house in houston.
Speaker 2:I'd imagine if she got a picture with Shaq it would look like you know, you know, I mean, maybe You've got to look that up and if it's there posted as Shaquille O'Neal and Simone Biles. Have they ever taken a picture together?
Speaker 3:If it's, if it's available, it's up. Oh my God, that's hilarious, yeah yeah, and I'm trying to think, um, uh, I do recall watching eric hyden yes olympic speed skater in the winter olympics.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I remember watching him the biggest him and earl campbell the biggest thighs I've ever seen oh really, oh okay, take a look at the.
Speaker 3:Uh, take a look at the screen right now. Timmy, what do you think about robert forstman's thighs? Let's see just kidding, he's a german cyclist and they call him the quad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but still, kev, you remember Earl Campbell, houston Oilers. They didn't even have pants his size, they had medium, large, extra large.
Speaker 3:And Earl Campbell, and Earl Campbell, that's right. The EC.
Speaker 2:Yeah, him and. And you can line them up right here, all three of them on screen Eric Heiden, earl Campbell and your new German friend. Yeah, that's some mean. And you can line them up right here, all three of them on screen Eric Heiden, earl Campbell and your new German friend.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's some impressive stuff right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's some, that's some thigh action. Yeah, ok, all right, eric. I remember Eric Heiden too, because, you know, at the time of the 80 Olympics I was living in Wisconsin and he was Wisconsin guy.
Speaker 3:That's right yeah.
Speaker 2:So they were very proud of him and what he's doing. He had a sister named Beth Hyden. I remember that too, Not quite as good, no, Still pretty good, Absolutely. Which kind of sucks, man, you know, because you know here you are, you're world class too, but your brother's just like freaking God. Yeah, you know, that just has to kind of suck Like real quick. As a tangent. How many siblings you know you just weren't quite good enough, you know didn't have a Jose Canseco, Didn't he have a brother?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did, I can't remember.
Speaker 2:Ozzie Ozzie Canseco.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:You know, here you are. You know it's like you know Gary Earnhardt.
Speaker 3:That's right, dale is his brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Dale Jr is his brother and Dale's his dad. He's just like he never got it, and he's the younger brother too. That's what's really got to hurt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I mean.
Speaker 2:Eli Manning, that's true. I wish he would have made something of himself, right? I will say this, though the more I watch that David Tyree helmet pinning that was. That was fucking luck, man and that made him. That one made him.
Speaker 3:Absolutely made him Cause, I wasn't it against Brady and the Patriots.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he beat, he beat. That's the first time they beat the Patriots. They actually beat the Patriots twice, but that was just sheer luck. That was sometimes. You're just lucky, kev. Oh yeah, sometimes you're just lucky kev oh yeah, sometimes you are just lucky, um okay so you got your three out of the way. Those are my three, yeah okay, I, you know, I had carl lewis too um usain bolt. Yeah, 2008, whatever, he ran a 979 959, whatever it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2:I was like he not only broke the all time world record, just destroyed everybody in the heat. Like he's toying with them, like he's he's complete, like you know 10, 20, 30, you know he's just playing around. Then suddenly, like like the roadrunner used to do, he used to play with the coyotes just play with them a little bit and then the smoke down.
Speaker 3:The roadrunner used to do, he used to play with the coyotes, just play with them a little bit and then the smoke down the road. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's really fun to watch those elite sprinters like Noah Lyles in the Olympic qualifying trials. He was shutting it down at like 75 meters. Yeah, I mean it was that far ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the sprinters are like, like I don't remember. Know if you remember this guy, this was when we were kids.
Speaker 3:Uh, ronaldo skeets nehemiah yeah, didn't he end up becoming a wide receiver for the 49ers?
Speaker 2:that's correct and the way he would just instantly have separation just gone. Like like he, like joe montana would have to throw the ball immediately upon receiving it, on the snap, immediately as far as he can, otherwise skeets is going to outrun it yeah, he was, uh, he was a talent yeah, that's just yeah. Sprinters. I just I'm in awe of sprinters. What Usain Bolt did there was unbelievable. But I also remember when we were kids. You know obviously Carl Lewis, but remember Michael Johnson.
Speaker 3:Oh, he was a 200 specialist. He wore the gold shoes.
Speaker 2:And he did the hurdles. Yeah, yeah, and he was and the gold shoes. You're right, I was just like this guy I mean mean it looks like the hurdle's not even there. He's just, it's just part of his pace, it's like the hurdles. It didn't matter that they were there. That's how he moved. You know everybody else had to jump over it. It was just part of his stride, you know.
Speaker 3:He just had to time it dude, how cocky are you that you wear gold shoes in the Olympics?
Speaker 2:If you can back it up, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly Exactly. It ain't cocky if you can back it up. Thanks, Kid Rock.
Speaker 4:They say I'm cocky. And I say what it ain't bragging, motherfucker, rip your back you know you have another one of mine is Michael Phelps.
Speaker 3:All-time medal winner in America, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Particularly Michael.
Speaker 2:Phelps, All-time medal winner in America. Right yeah, Particularly though the Beijing 08. When it just everything, he was winning everything. And just at that time my kids were swimming too, so I was really zoned in on him.
Speaker 3:You know Audrey and Jonas were, you know, top breaststrokers in the area, absolutely, I remember.
Speaker 2:So just I was zoned in on him and just fascinated with the whole concept of Michael Phelps and the fact that he had to eat these meals with like eight pancakes, six eggs, four things of toast, blah, blah, blah. You know six pounds of oatmeal and you know, just to have enough calories to keep up with this training 10,000 calories per day.
Speaker 2:That's it 10. Was it 10 per day, per meal? I can't remember. It was 10 000 per meal because he always had the munchies. Yep, mike liked the herb, he liked the herb. We, we know how he dealt with pain, that's right, yeah, but those are the ones that stick out in terms of olympic moments. But yeah, you know, kev, I you know some of these, uh, uh, the thing I, the thing that kind of bums me out is some of these athletes are so good but they only get like the real attention once every four years.
Speaker 3:True, yeah, because the sport's not a massive public consumption sport. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, like women's beach volleyball or guys' beach volleyball, that's incredible what they're doing. It's incredible what they're doing, but you know they don't get as high profile.
Speaker 3:Not at all.
Speaker 2:And they're just amazing athletes. Now, some of them I still question. You know I don't get skateboarding.
Speaker 3:I think that the X Games should suffice for skateboarding, for breakdancing, but no, they've moved it. There's no more women's softball in the Olympics, but we can breakdance.
Speaker 2:I don't understand that, why they did that to women. Nor do I. What was the reasoning behind that?
Speaker 3:I have no idea.
Speaker 2:Softball is a massive sport.
Speaker 3:Dude, I am riveted during the women's college world series I love it.
Speaker 2:I think that's bullshit. It is that they took softball away it is yeah yeah, you know, you want to be all. You know. Hey, let's give everybody a chance. And you want to be all fair, and you know. And we're going to take women's softball away. For what reason? I don't get it, I don't know. Were we too? For what reason? I don't get it.
Speaker 3:I don't know, were we too dominant?
Speaker 2:You know I don't get. Is that it I?
Speaker 3:don't know If the US is just too fucking good. I have no idea.
Speaker 2:I don't understand shooting. You know I love shooting and I'm a Second Amendment guy, but why is shooting an Olympic sport?
Speaker 3:Do you like the biathlon in the uh winter olympics, where they do the cross-country skiing and the shooting?
Speaker 2:at least they're getting some cardio, but the ones now, oh, that's now. I mean, I mean, if you can have a cigarette, yeah, and in one hand and put it down, and then you know, so yeah, you don't, probably don't belong as an olympic athlete.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying I into the shooting. Are they shooting from distance because they got these scopes and they're dialing stuff in? Are they shooting from like massive distances away? I?
Speaker 2:don't know, they just, they just show them with a gun aiming and I'm just like I don't know, I don't, I don't know why, how that's. Uh, you know, you know you can go to a carnival and you know, blow up a balloon or something like that and win a prize. I mean, I understand why you get a fucking gold medal for that.
Speaker 3:You know you're talking about sports that only come around, like every four years, that get sunshine. Did you see the US versus China in badminton?
Speaker 2:Holy cow. Yeah, that's another sport that I'm like. This is really cool. I'll tell you this that ain't the badminton we played in backyards at family reunions.
Speaker 3:Oh hell, no. Do you realize that that shuttlecock travels at 200 miles per hour sometimes?
Speaker 2:I just like that. You said shuttlecock, you won the bet.
Speaker 3:I knew you'd appreciate that, the little birdie, yeah, yeah, how fast it can get up to 200 miles per hour, holy shit. Yeah, it's fascinating that they even have the reflexes to catch that on their racket.
Speaker 2:Forget about the BB gun. That's the thing that's going to put your eye out. That's crazy man, right, yeah, but but I like that. See, now, that's that. That's that's athletic, I like that that's athletic very cool but you know I'm trying to think of some other unusual sports that we see, that. But well, like in the winter, like curling uh-huh I mean come on man, you can have a beer in one hand and play that.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love the strategy in curling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, again, though, it's a game, it's not a sport.
Speaker 3:It's a game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, seriously, if you can smoke a cigarette or drink a beer while you're doing the activity and you really don't have to worry about getting in shape, you just show up. It's not really an olympic sport to me. I, I guess I'm a purist. He's a purist, am I wrong? I mean, because then what's what's to stop you from having like olympic yahtzee, yeah, okay, yeah, we're gonna play olympic monopoly here, you know, and once I own board, pocket and port uh park place, I'm a gold medalist yeah, yeah, he's got it right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's an interesting. Uh, it's an interesting proposition, so I mean at what point did you show?
Speaker 2:I mean, so you can have uh, you know some of those, you know not so sport, but you can't have women's softball. Exactly, that's outrageous to me, Kev.
Speaker 3:I know I do. I feel cheated as a spectator because women's softball is amazing to watch.
Speaker 2:Plus, those are some women you don't want to piss off because some of them will kick the shit out of you Totally. I mean, there's some women's softball players you do not want to make angry.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, they just make angry yeah you know they just they, they, they. Yeah, you know, I know exactly what you're talking about, so I explain that to me, if you can, what the reason was behind it. If you know, maybe because you know kev a lot of times in editing he'll have some reason. You know, have some like words down. If you can find that reason that softball, yeah, and, and run the scroll on it, that'd be great, because I don't understand that one.
Speaker 3:Do you remember Jenny Finch?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the UT.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh no. She went to University of Arizona and then Blonde University of Arizona. Her son is a dominant high school baseball player. He's expected to be drafted, I think, maybe next year. Really really high.
Speaker 2:Holy shit. So you're telling me that little Jenny Finch already has a high school-aged son.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What the fuck is going on Kev.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they get older.
Speaker 2:What is going on? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3:no, yeah, he's like six, six, no shit, yeah, yeah no shit. So she married a basketball player or something she did marry an athlete and I can't remember. I can't remember what sport. Yow, I can't remember what sport Yao, yao Ming.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's awesome. I did not know that he was a prospect. I got to give some props to Calvin Biggio, craig Biggio's kid. He was just in town and was given a hard, even though the Strohs got two out of three games against the Dodgers. He had a really good series here in Houston and even cranked a home run, and you could see old dad a little teary eyed. I bet In the stands when, when, when his boy cranked that thing.
Speaker 3:Played for the Toronto Blue Jays and then just kind of sputtered it in his career up there and so he got traded to the Dodgers. Listen, if you sputter in your career and then get traded to the premier team in the league, are you really sputtering in your career?
Speaker 2:sounds like a good move, it's not a bad move gosh, I just and I remember, and speaking of you know time machine, man, I remember when, when craig was uh coaching him in high school he's a high school kid st thomas yeah st thomas and, yeah, I was like god man. What is going on now? He's 29 years old and he just cranked a home run at Minute Maid ballpark. What is happening here, jesus?
Speaker 3:Dude, you realize, when he was playing with Toronto. On that team they had Vladimir Guerrero Jr and Bo Bichette, Dante Bichette's son.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had three two-generations. Yeah yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I mean, you know. It reminds me, you know, was it Ken Griffey Jr and Ken Griffey who played together, though On the Cincinnati Reds yeah, very, very late in Griff's career, not juniors, but Griffey's. And that brings me to and I know we weighed in on this, but I've been watching the updates- I feel bad for. Lebron's kid, oh, bronny, because his dad doing this has just put enormous pressure on him.
Speaker 3:Is it?
Speaker 2:really. Yeah he's got the spotlight on him, and I mean just everybody watching. It's just got to be awkward. That should be a lesson that. Hey, you know, I know you want to play with your kid and you think that would be neat. Don't do that to the kid, though.
Speaker 3:Well, but there aren't any expectations of him to become a great player, are there?
Speaker 2:Still, kev, you're getting daily updates from the G League, you know, and you got all these talking heads that are breaking down everything. I mean, he dribbled to the right and it looks like he almost lost it to the left.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying yeah, there's a uh, a big uh scrutinization of his game, for sure, oh yeah yeah, well, I noticed that when he took a shower and walked out of the locker room that there was a little wetness on his right part of his forehead that he forgot to dry off. Obviously there's some issues with little bra. I mean it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel bad for the kid.
Speaker 3:Do you really? What did he sign for?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, true too.
Speaker 3:You know who's his dad.
Speaker 2:That's true too. Is he one of the kids where dad's going to give money? Though? I know a lot of these guys are like, hey, I'm not giving my kids any money, that's my money.
Speaker 3:Yeah no. Shaq has said that he'll only invest in his children's businesses in the future. Bill Gates said he won't give his kids any money.
Speaker 2:No, he's got to spend money on evil shit instead of his own kids. Okay, I mean that dude is evil man Gates. I mean that dude is evil man Gates. Oh my God, oh Prime eugenicist. He wants everybody dead. He's one of those that wants everybody dead. Oh yeah, there's too many of us that are eating up his precious resources.
Speaker 3:But aren't too many of us using his products to make him wealthier and wealthier?
Speaker 2:He's already got it. Now, though, he doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:All right, yeah, he already got his.
Speaker 3:I see.
Speaker 2:So fuck everybody else.
Speaker 3:When you just said fuck everybody else, that just brought to mind what we were talking about earlier in this conversation. People who try to outrun the cops basically are saying fuck everybody else.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's awful, man, it's awful. Hmm, like the chances of you getting away are so slim and you're just adding shit by the minute to your charges.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but what I'm saying is that we look at people who are trying to outrun the cops and say, fuck everybody else is criminals. Bill Gates says fuck everybody else and we look at him as like, oh my God, he's the richest guy in the world.
Speaker 2:Bill Gates says fuck everybody else and we look at him as like oh my God, he's the richest guy in the world, he's got to be cool. No, no, right, that is not a cool man at all. Oh, no, no, no, no, that's evil.
Speaker 3:Are there in your knowledge? Are there any people that reach that level of wealth? That are cool. Elon Musk Musk is cool.
Speaker 2:He believes in freedom, man, okay, he's a humanist.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know, uh-huh Musk. You know I have no issues with Musk. I'm trying to think of other billionaires that are cool. There's probably a few of them.
Speaker 3:I mean Richard Branson, to me comes to mind.
Speaker 2:But I don't know enough about him, but I think he would be cool to hang out with on his plane. Again, there's a and that's getting back to our discussion of hey man, you can say what you want about somebody, but if they have the charm or the money or whatever, you'll bury all of your personal feelings when you're in the same room with them.
Speaker 3:Just from the surface he just seems like a cool guy. I mean Virgin Music, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's probably a few of them there, okay, but for every one billionaire, that's cool. There's like six or seven of them who are evil and want evil shit happening.
Speaker 3:unfortunately, Understood, understood.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so all right, Kevin Kline, this has been a blast.
Speaker 3:My gosh man. It's been so fun and so fast. I mean, this was like the Usain Bolt of Tuttle Kline. Podcast episodes. You're blanking us over.
Speaker 2:This is a 979 podcast. Baby Gold medal podcast. Kevin Klein Um, what do you have coming up? Uh, on the fuzzy mic this week?
Speaker 3:Uh, this week I'm going to talk to that guy that uh used to be a hostage negotiator for uh Texas department of public safety. Uh, but um, he grew up in a really, really bad environment and he was constantly depressed and wished suicide on himself. He wished that God would take him off the world. He said no less than 4,000 times. But he's completely changed his life around and now he has alternative ways for people who battle depression to actually overcome it.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine, kev if that's being your job the pressure of being a hostage negotiator? I know right, Because if you're having a bad day and you say the wrong thing, I mean people immediately die.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you know, I know this guy was always the first through the door. He said I was always the first through the door and that's because I didn't care if I lived or died. He goes I have always the first through the door and that's because I didn't care if I lived or died. He goes I have no self-worth. And he says and then that's the selfish reason. The other reason is because my brothers on the force with me. They had families and I wanted to protect them. So if anybody's taking a bullet, it's going to be me. Okay, yeah, he's a great great interview.
Speaker 2:Call me crazy, but if I was a hostage, I would want my hostage negotiator to be loving life Pretty much so. You know what, ron? You've been in that bank vault for seven and a half hours. I'm just fucking kill them. All right, kev, I'm out of here, buddy, have a great week, man.
Speaker 3:You too.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all-new episode, and you can get more Cline on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, take the yo.
