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Ep #20: Athletes, Politics, and Profound Career Pivots
Ever wondered how a college grad went from despising his desk job to excelling in the high-stakes world of trading? Listen to our latest episode of the Tuttle & Kline Show as we unravel this inspiring story, filled with humorous anecdotes and valuable insights into career pivots and the mental toughness required for trading success. Tuttle shares his own trading experiences and the pressures young adults face in career choices, offering both a laugh and a lesson for everyone.
Curious about what life holds after serving as president? We explore the glamorous and lucrative opportunities that await former presidents, while pondering how age and past mistakes impact political careers. Plus, we examine the cracks in the two-party system and the lengths to which the super-rich will go to safeguard their futures in secluded bunkers. This segment is packed with thought-provoking discussions on politics, power, and preparation for global crises.
And for sports fans, we've got a treat! From LeBron James' surprising contract moves to Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes making sacrifices for team success, we dissect the economics of athlete compensation. We also honor college athlete Donovan Clingan's altruism and reminisce about unforgettable sports movies. Whether it's LeBron’s latest move or a heartwarming film moment, this episode promises humor, emotion, and a nostalgic journey through sports and cinema. Tune in and join us for an engaging ride!
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show. Galvin.
Speaker 3:Hey Tuttle, what are you doing? Nothing, man. What are you doing?
Speaker 4:Nothing I just got done doing a little bit of trading. Oh cool. Caught a nice swing, so I'm very happy.
Speaker 3:And you were teaching somebody recently how to trade.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, there's. And you were teaching somebody recently how to trade yeah, yeah, there's. I got a friend of mine's college graduate was, you know, hating his new gig. And the guy it makes me laugh because he would always be late To class, to class, to school, to everything. And this kid would take pictures of traffic jams as they happened in Houston, of traffic jams as they happened in Houston, and he would always just text his boss hey man, I'm so sorry, I'm caught behind it again. You know, yeah, until about a week ago, the boss looked at the picture and goes why is there a toys or us truck right next to you? Toys arrest has been out of business for a while exactly.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if you're gonna go that route, you got to make sure that you're using updated material and, uh, the boss calls him in and just goes through every single one of his you know traffic jam excuses and I guess he was doing it like twice, maybe three times a month you know it could happen that often in houston absolutely.
Speaker 4:And you know the the kid used it, he, I mean, he used it and uh, his boss like went through everyone, was this one legit, was this? You know, just none of them sure. And he goes, he goes. Uh, the boss was kind of cool about it. He said, hey, buck, he said I could tell from the beginning this, this was not for you. You know a lot of people, I guess, get caught up. They, they, they get stuck and past the point of no return. In college, kev, they've been studying this one, you know, major, and their parents have been paying, you know, 25, 30, 40 grand a year and they can't turn back on it. And they realize you know they made that decision when they were 18, 19 years old that this is going to be my major.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's a point of no return, like you said.
Speaker 4:And then he's you know, they're 20 and 21,. Like I mean, I hate this shit, I don't want to do this. I don't know what I was thinking when I was 18 years old man, you know what I'm saying, yeah, no, and there's a lot of pressure from the from the families.
Speaker 4:There's a lot of pressure from the parents to to go into something and he just, and he like and the friend of mine whose son it is said he feels awful because he put the pressure on him he's like bullshit, dude. He's like bullshit, you know and and you got great grades and you're good at this stuff, and he's like Dad. I hate this shit man.
Speaker 4:I just hate it. And well, and then you know he would tell his dad I've always just been fascinated, you know, by the challenge of trading stocks and options and futures, and you know charts fascinate me and everything like that. I want to do that bad. And he said, dad, there was a kid that I went to school with that he just took the last semester that his parents would deposit in his account he didn't pay for it, he used it to trade. And his parents realized what was going on. It was like the second semester was like spring semester, so you've been doing it for like seven, eight months. And they were like what the fuck are you that? That was 25 grand and he goes, yeah, but I turned it into 117,000. Wow, yeah. So you know, he was always fascinated by his college friend who did that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so he you know his, his dad, you know approached me, said hey, I know you're, you're pretty good at this stuff, you know. Do you want to do you want to do you want to help them out? And I, yeah, I'll help him out. Nice, yeah, so does he have what it takes? Yeah, he's got the math down. I mean, you never know until the pressure is applied when it's your own money. I mean, you can simulate trade all day long and just be like, yeah man, I just doubled that $50,000 account in six weeks. But when it's your own money, it's mostly psychological. I'll give you an example. I just had a swing trade in the S&P 500 E-minis, the most liquid futures market in the world.
Speaker 3:Okay, what is a swing trade?
Speaker 4:A swing trade is larger than a scalp. I'm going to sit out, I'm going to watch. I got you know I had a game plan of okay, I'm risking five points, you know 20 ticks and I'm going to make you know 12 and a half points, two and a half times that.
Speaker 4:So, say, say, my risk is a thousand bucks, I'm going to try to make two and a half thousand. You know $2,500. Right, okay, most people. And what happened on this Kev is it took a dive down. It came within one tick, like one tick, of hitting my target and then boom went up, started going up, started heading up, and you know cause? I was short and a lot of people who don't have the psychology will be like, well, I gotta figure out a way to get out.
Speaker 4:I gotta get out whereas you gotta be calm and cool and just you know, fuck the thousand dollars I've already spent it to see if it's gonna work. You gotta psychologically be able to put that away. Yeah, and instead of you know, letting it, you know, instead of letting it come all the way up and making only like $600, $700 on it, I just sat there calmly and coolly because I've been doing this for a while. I'm like man, my analysis is right here. Man, it's got to hit this point before it moves up dramatically. This is just a shakeout and most people can't handle the shakeout. No, of course. And you need those larger wins to make up for losses Because, let's face it, you hit. Maybe 55%, 60% are winners.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, that high huh.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so you got to make sure. Well, I hit about 55 to 60%, so I've got to make sure that my cumulative total of wins are much more than my average risk I get that it's the trader's equation.
Speaker 3:Trader's equation.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm so sorry. Hey, let me know if I'm way too much in the weeds in this and you're fucking, I mean at this point most people would be like, oh God, I can't believe.
Speaker 3:I asked that what did I do that shit for? No, I was running with my brother-in-law this past weekend and we were talking about the office of the president and this does have relevance to what we're talking about with the stock market and we were talking about how the two candidates that are up for president, based on the debate, there have to be better choices out there. And he asked me well, why is it this way? And do you remember when we used to be really, really close with Pete Olson, the US House of Representatives representative from District 22 in Sugar Land? I had lunch with him one day and I said any uh, any uh ambition to become a Senator.
Speaker 3:He's like I could never do it. I'm like why? He says because to get in that kind of position, it ain't about your politics, it ain't about your policy, it's all about how much money can you raise for the party? Okay, that's what it comes down to. If you can't raise enough money for the party, they're not going to back you for the Senate, they're not going to back you for president, okay. So we got to talking about that's why Biden and Trump are there, because they raise shit, tons of money, okay, and it looks great for the party, but we got to talking about why would anybody want that job for $200,000? You can't take any perks, supposedly, and right. And that's why I say supposedly, because my brother-in-law said he knows somebody that he works with that does this for investing, and I guess he can do it through Robin hood. He says he follows Nancy Pelosi and whatever trades she makes or her accountant makes, he makes the exact same and he's up 300% since he started doing it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because the uh uh uh people in government and quote unquote in power don't have to live by the same rules that we do. They can take inside information and profit off it. Uh and they and Nancy Pelosi is the biggest one of all of she's made three $400 million.
Speaker 3:Okay, so. So therein lies why you would want to be president. Ok so.
Speaker 4:So therein lies why you would want to be president. Well, yeah, kev, it's what you make afterwards and they're peddling that while they're in like, oh hey, hey, barack, listen, man, you know you're going to be out, your second term's almost over and we want you to do a couple of speeches. We got you lined up for a million five each speech. You know, to our board of directors, blah, blah, blah, mill five. You know, wink, wink, nod, nod. Can you help me with this? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they can't directly pay them right there, but they're getting paid in their retirement.
Speaker 3:Well, and my brother-in-law also brought up the point that, uh, afterwards these presidents become board members on, where they get paid handsomely when the stock split or whatever you know again.
Speaker 4:The obamas have made hundreds of millions of dollars and if you really look at it and this is not a shred on barack obama uh, he has never in his life had a real earning job producing anything nothing okay, but it works for him it's a bit, it's a business. I mean it is, yeah, it's low probability, uh, but when it pays, it pays yeah, so biden as the current president.
Speaker 3:What kind of out of office incentives can you give him? Hey man, we're gonna let you go first in checkers at the nursing home after your term's up. What the hell?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's why it is very, very dangerous when you start getting older people in there, because they don't care about tomorrow as much. That's why, to me, man 40 to 55, maybe 60. That's what you want your presidents to be.
Speaker 3:Do you think somebody at 40 has enough experience or worldly knowledge?
Speaker 4:It's more like 50. Yeah, you know 50. Kevin, all honesty, right now I would be a fucking great president, because I'm going to get run. I mean that's sweet. I actually had somebody say, you know, because they say I can raise money with my name in Texas and I can make a run, and you know, I'm just like man. There are so many skeletons, shit, shit, dude.
Speaker 5:Man.
Speaker 3:I've done some fucked up shit, man. That ain't even a concern anymore, man, seriously, it's just not.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, that's what he said too. He said all you'd have to do is you would have a press conference saying, hey, Tim Tuttle, second date update guy. I'm just letting you know I'm running and here's all the stuff I've done. Let's get it out. Running, and here's all the stuff I've done, let's get it out. You know, this is what they're going to try to dig up on me. Sorry about some of that stuff. Some of it's just being young and stupid. Let's move on and talk about the issues.
Speaker 3:Number one you get out ahead of it and so you own up to it. That's absolutely 100 percent what any press agency would tell you. And number two what happened to Trump's numbers after he got convicted of 34 felonies?
Speaker 4:Oh, absolutely. Well, they realized. Okay, yeah, now it's good versus evil.
Speaker 3:Regardless of that, what I'm saying is that, even if you have that label of felon behind your name, it doesn't kill you anymore. Nope, it doesn't, nope. So you know you should do it, man. No, start with city council and then, you know, move up.
Speaker 4:I just don't believe in the two-party system. I really don't.
Speaker 3:You want to run as an independent, then I would.
Speaker 4:I would actually start my own, I would just be. I'm a constitutionalist.
Speaker 3:See, that's the thing that pisses me off about the media right now. A lot of things do, but they get. But right before the debate they said you know, 29% of the population are double haters, meaning they don't like Trump and they don't like Biden, but they don't feel they have another option. Well, see, that's bullshit. You got to. You have other options. Rfk, he's an option.
Speaker 4:The two-party thing is ridiculous and that's how they keep the power Exactly. You know, it's the old Bill Hicks thing.
Speaker 5:They're all the same. I'll show you politics in America. Here it is right. Here. I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs. I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking. Hey, wait a minute. There's one guy holding up both puppets. Shut up, go back to bed. America, your government is in control.
Speaker 4:You create the illusion that, oh, you know my side, oh my side. That's an illusion, so like because we love football. You know, yeah, my red team's going to kick your blue team's ass this november and all it is is the puppet master going. I am the one that always wins until that's toppled. And the problem is in the last few years is they've really exposed themselves and there's some anger out there. That's why they're building all these armored redoubts and bunkers in New Zealand. You know they need to be able to get out.
Speaker 3:I don't know anything about that. New Zealand is the place, huh.
Speaker 4:New Zealand's the place that would survive nuclear. How, so far away, so remote?
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, all right, makes sense.
Speaker 4:Then that's where they all are. They're building their bunkers. It's like they know something's coming.
Speaker 3:Now they better check their shoes, because if they have dirty shoes, New Zealand ain't letting them in.
Speaker 4:I've heard that about New Zealand.
Speaker 3:Oh seriously, tim, they are sticklers on that. We literally had to take our shoes out of our luggage and let them scan them.
Speaker 4:You're kidding me.
Speaker 3:Nope, Because everything is so based on the environment there that they can't have invasive species brought in from other areas. And so, yeah, I had. I went down there to run a trail marathon and they had to take my trail running shoes and clean that. They had a little bit of dirt on them. They had to clean them before they would give them back to me.
Speaker 4:And here in the United States we'll let anything in. You got a manifesto saying Americans are evil and you want to kill them. Come on in. Come on in, it's open, wide open.
Speaker 3:Well, my brother-in-law again we were talking about this his subdivision, the Homeowners Association, is taking out 675 trees in the entire subdivision because they're ash and they have this invasive beetle that is tearing them down. You know it's killing them, so they've got to remove all of these to get rid of the beetle. If you just checked your shoes before you went into the subdivision?
Speaker 4:Exactly Do they call that invasive beetle Ringo Ringo Starr? That invasive beetle, ringo ringo star? I just thought of him because allegedly he was the worthless one, when, when in a fact, he's actually one of the greatest drummers in history, just doesn't get the credit for it look, when you're dealing with names like lennon and mccartney, yeah, anybody else is going to be deemed worthless, but there's nobody worthless in the Beatles.
Speaker 3:There's nobody worthless in Led Zeppelin. There's nobody worthless in the Rolling Stones. You don't get there if you have somebody worthless dragging you down. Why do you think Tim and I aren't in the radio anymore Because you work with me? You dragged me down. Klein, Glad you were an anchor.
Speaker 4:No mean, with your ringo star it's like you're the one of the best and this is what I've heard from actual drummers. He's one of the most solid time timing drummers. I mean he's like really solid and his stuff, you know, back in the 60s was way ahead of the curve yeah and you know, but you're going against these songwriters who are just brilliant.
Speaker 4:So you're lucky, you get your little yellow submarine in there, right, you know? And that was a, that was a big moment for me, because wait well, boy you go, you guys gonna keep yellow submarine it's one of the more recognizable songs that they have.
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course that came out when they were all high on, you know, mushrooms, mushrooms and LSD and all that stuff.
Speaker 4:Most of that happened under drugs. Man, yeah, I pull. Let's give Ringo a break. Give him his little yellow submarine.
Speaker 3:Still one of the all-time greatest SNL skits.
Speaker 2:They know that they ripped me off. I can play this thing backwards and you can hear them talking about it. You hear John Lennon. I play it in reverse. Listen, very close. Listen.
Speaker 4:Hey, paul, let's get rid of Clarence and steal all his good ideas. Eddie Murphy, yep I love that Back when Eddie Murphy was funny and not trying to be cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, aren't they coming out with another Beverly Hills? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:That could be good it's called. I Need Another 40 and 50 Million Before I Walk Away From this Whole Fucking Thing. That's what that movie is Beverly Hills Cop 4. I Need Another 50 Million Before I Walk Away From this Whole Fucking Shithole Rated.
Speaker 3:PG-13.
Speaker 4:Yeah, kev, I got a DM here about last week's episode. By the way, we're starting to increase our audience. We appreciate all of you. Things are getting bigger and better and thank you very much. You know, the more you download and that's the key is to download our podcast from the platforms. We're on every major platform. Second off, we love getting messages, direct messages. We love comments on our social media. I mean, all you have to do is search Tuttle and Klein on any social media, on any platform, and you're going to find us. But Tommy L, he messaged and it was about our riff of serial killers targeting cancelers. How's this for a movie? Yeah, a serial killer is out there looking for cancelers. He says that we should do a segment. You and I should do a segment on more types of people that should be targeted by serial killers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, I'm down.
Speaker 4:And he wanted to throw out the first one himself. He says people that drive with their face buried in their phones.
Speaker 3:Oh, right with you, Tommy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know there should be a serial killer out there just trolling the freeways and if he sees one, he just follows them and, you know, does their little serial killer stalking and then eventually their work. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Kind of like a Dexter, a righteous serial killer.
Speaker 3:I like that. I like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I thought if we did a whole segment on it, though it's a little dark.
Speaker 3:OK.
Speaker 4:I mean you got to watch the bad juju on that Kev. You remember in 2001, we were on air doing top three people. That will surely go to hell.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah.
Speaker 4:And one of the people mentioned was Osama bin Laden, who we had no idea really who he was. We heard about some terrorist attack back in the late 90s and then, literally 15 minutes after that segment, the first plane hit the World Trade Center.
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah. So, yeah, and now the news is reporting that two of our military bases in Europe are under a Charlie level of threat, so there's only one more level to go higher, and that's Delta Whoa.
Speaker 4:Okay, charlie. Yeah, charlie, that's Delta, whoa. Okay, charlie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, charlie, that's the level three.
Speaker 4:Okay so it's not like like named. It's named like uh, you know, abc. Okay so it's not like celebrities, where it's like we're on threat level Charlie Sheen, which no no, it's the alpha.
Speaker 3:Bravo, Charlie yeah. Yeah. So, but no, they're, yeah, they're a heightened alert, and two of our European bases because they say they have credible terrorist threats. So, yeah, maybe we want to table this conversation until a later date.
Speaker 4:Yeah, by the way though, tommy L, I totally agree. I mean annoying people while they're driving. Your face is in there. I mean you sit there and you watch them almost kill three or four people and you're like I would just absolutely love for that person. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Oh, I know exactly what you're saying. Oh, I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 4:I just want to throw out this quick note though Any Jack Stick listening to this, any of our Jack Sticks that may want to do that themselves, can you give me advance notice? So I make sure that I'm off my own phone. Can you give me advance notice? So I make sure that I'm off my own phone.
Speaker 3:Hey, what about this person? You go to a sporting event or a concert. You're sitting in the second or third row, no-transcript why. You're in the front freaking row.
Speaker 4:You got nobody blocking you, so you're gonna block the rest of us because you want a better vantage I don't know I'm kind of torn on that one cav why I always thought you know a seats or should be optional in events.
Speaker 3:You should be excited to be there yeah, but if everybody else is sitting down and you're the one that's still standing and you're in the front row, yeah, you're a dick cam.
Speaker 4:Remember we I was, we were in college and we went to an Indianapolis Colts game when I lived, you know, in.
Speaker 6:Indiana.
Speaker 4:And I was friends with friends. My roommate, scott Jeffries, and I went to a Colts game and we're literally I mean this is early on in the Colts. You know tenure in Indianapolis. We just got them from Baltimore a couple, a couple years before. You know, eric dickerson was running, so it's kind of cool. You know a guy I played football against, jeff george was qb in and all that stuff and we're trying to, you know, rally everybody, yeah, get a goal create and people like sit down, sit down, and we're like this isn't a fucking library, this is a football game.
Speaker 3:They were getting mad at us at a football game for cheering the home team. Were they sure you were cheering the home team? Because I remember the early years of the Indianapolis Colts were kind of lean.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was kind of lean. Yeah, we were trying to get them going, though we were, you know, of course. Yeah, I'm torn on that one. I like a raucous crowd, but I see what you're talking about. It depends on the, the artist. Ok, if you're watching Pantera and you're in the front row standing up and anybody complains about that, they can just fuck right off. But you know, if you're watching, you know Cher does a holographic show with uh bono, sunny bono, and you're, and you're in vegas and you're in the front row standing up, you're just like what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 4:you got a point uh-huh okay, so I don't know, we may take it. Can't remind me of that one. Next week we may do a whole whole thing on that one next week, committing it to memory. Okay, can I do this real quick? I would like to throw out an official salute to the Lakers GM and their scouts.
Speaker 3:You're typically not a Laker sympathizer or fan, so what happened?
Speaker 4:I just credit where credit's due Cav. Okay, they got this mediocre shooter, averaged five points a game in college, undersized with a heart condition, and picked him in the second round. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1:With the 55th pick in the 2024 NBA draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select Ronnie James.
Speaker 4:That is.
Speaker 3:Okay, this is backhanded, I get it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that to me. That's what I'm talking about. You're really doing your job.
Speaker 3:It's always been LeBron's desire to play an NBA game with his son, and so the Lakers drafted him.
Speaker 4:Which tells you who truly owns the Lakers.
Speaker 3:Yes, which tells you that. But did you see what LeBron did the day after they drafted his son?
Speaker 4:No, I did not. What did he do?
Speaker 3:He opted out of his contract with the Lakers. Now, yeah, that's hilarious. Well, that's the original reaction that I had too, but then I read deeper. Okay, he opted out because he did not want them to pay him $51 million for the upcoming season. He is actually going to renegotiate his contract to take a lower fee so that they can go out and get Klay Thompson.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, he pulled a Tom Brady uh Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I did not see that coming.
Speaker 4:Wow, well, I mean, dude, since he moved to LA, I mean, you know, you know, uh, lebron is pushing a billion now too.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, definitely. So he doesn't. He doesn't need it, but yeah, that's, that's pretty bad, magnanimous, I like that. He wants to make a run.
Speaker 3:He wants to make a run and he wants to reward them for picking his son, because he knows they did it, because he wanted it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I do like how they have Bronny's jersey number zero, which will represent his average minutes and his stats, right.
Speaker 5:Yeah minutes as stats right yeah.
Speaker 4:The question is is since you already have a james on somebody's back on the team, do they put nepo?
Speaker 4:oh yeah, his nickname, I guess right yeah I will say this I like that, you know I. I talk about this, you know, with my son, dallas, all the time. He's. I mean this this kid is a general manager of a major sports team in the making and I talk about it and he goes, yeah, and you know, he reassures me that the strategy of if you're a big player, a big time superstar, you have so many opportunities to make money outside of your team, why do you have to have maximum money? People like Patrick Mahomes, tom Brady and now LeBron James said, hey, I can make money doing commercials, endorsements, all that stuff. Why don't you get me some weapons around me, whereas if you're, I've max money guy. You know Aaron Rogers, well, yeah, in his last year Packers had to give him max money but you got no receivers. I can't protect you with the line. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I know exactly what you're saying and I've often wondered that. And one of the reasons why I do respect Patrick Mahomes is because he could easily be the first 60 million dollar quarterback. He doesn't want that.
Speaker 4:He wants championships, and so he restructures his contract every year patrick mahomes could demand a billion dollars guaranteed, where he would just even if he got, you, got to pay me the billion dollars If he, if he wanted to, if he wanted to be a dick, he could just demand and they would cough it up, but he would have nobody around him. Exactly, yeah, exactly. That tells you who wants to win and who wants to get paid, right there.
Speaker 3:Most definitely.
Speaker 4:And Kevin. Another thing how much do you need?
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, that's. That's another thing too.
Speaker 4:How much do you need? To me, you know, after you hit the what? 15 million, 20 million, there's nothing that you can't do Eat, enjoy, drive. You know there's not a lot.
Speaker 3:What's that? Fly, you can get your own plane.
Speaker 4:Fuck, you can get your own plane Fuck, you can get the hottest women. You know what I'm saying. After about 15, 20, what do you need?
Speaker 3:You can invest that in businesses or the market, whatever.
Speaker 4:Kev, if you give me $15 million, I make sure that I have enough and can do anything I want, and my next three generations can do the same.
Speaker 3:Generational wealth. We've already talked about that before in a previous episode. Yeah, hey, you know we're talking. We're talking about Brawny. Did you watch any of the NBA draft? I did not, did you? Yeah, I watched the whole first round and I think I'm gonna. I think it was donovan clingen, the center for connecticut, who went in one of the top six or seven picks. Did you hear what he did in college? No, what did he do in college? He took all of his nil money and gave it to his teammates. Wow, yeah, okay, because he knew. For two reasons Number one, he knew and number two, he said I don't want to be singled out on this team. We are a team. He goes, and if I take all of this and my teammates don't get it, they might look at me jealously and he goes. I don't want that. He goes. I want them to be happy to be playing with me.
Speaker 4:I want them to be happy to be playing with me. See, I wondered the dynamics of that. You know, you're on a college campus, you're on a football team, you're making $10 million a year, nil, and you have teammates that need you to sneak some food to them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I do know what you're saying.
Speaker 4:And that happens. I mean you'll get some walk-ons, kev, who don't go to the big table, that are just living like regular students, hoping that they can play themselves into a scholarship, and are literally starving and looking for their next meal Sometimes.
Speaker 3:I played with guys like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I mean, I can remember. I can remember this guy at ball state that he would sleep in. He slept in his car for a semester because he couldn't afford housing.
Speaker 4:He could not afford housing. He slept in his car, he would shower, obviously at the gym and you know he'd have a little bit of money to get some food and but mostly it was his teammates. You know I remember like steve, die, check and and and wesley sneaking food out of, uh, the dorm and and bring it him to his car to feed him.
Speaker 3:That's cool that they had it back like that.
Speaker 4:And the dude. You know the dude was a great defender. I mean, he was, he was key to that team and he's just like I got to do the grant. He ended up getting a scholarship, which was awesome.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was. I mean, you know they didn't. They don't have viral videos back then, but you know it would have been a great viral video because he was weeping, oh that's awesome. He's like I get out of the car you know, yeah, for sure, and I get to eat yeah, when you seriously, though, man, when you sleep four straight months in a car, you know, yeah, yeah, that, that, that, uh, you come to appreciate the uh, the simple, you know.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, it shows you're dedicated and, yeah, you definitely get an appreciation for the simpler things.
Speaker 4:Yeah, rick Majerus. The late coach, rick Majerus said we're going to give him a full ride. Oh, he was a good guy. Majerus is the best. Yeah, love Rick Majerus. And Rick Majerus would do some, you know, make sure that he got food and everything like that too. Right, you know, to the point. You know you can't overdo it as a coach because it's an ncaa violation right, it certainly is you know.
Speaker 4:You know that's the crazy shit. You know the kid is living in his car. He's starving. The program is successful now because this new rick mageris coach is bringing money in putting putting butts into the seats. You know, and one of the players who is key, a defender, gets some really nice assists. You know forces, turnovers. All that is sleeping in his car and you can't run him. You know a full pizza.
Speaker 3:Not only can you not really do that with the student back then, you couldn't even give it to the family under the table, because if they found that out then you're screwed again too.
Speaker 4:No, I think it was a scenario where you know coach would take a brand new hot pizza and he would quote unquote throw it away, yes, and somebody would quote unquote find it and deliver it to his player in the car.
Speaker 3:Hey, let me ask you this, because you know we constantly hear about this student loan forgiveness. Okay, and obviously you and I aren't eligible for the student loan forgiveness because we went to college way, way, way before that program was even being talked about. But can I go back and ask for my NIL reparations because we never got NIL money when I was a college athlete?
Speaker 4:Kev, I worked full time and went to school and it took me five years because I couldn't take full loads of classes. You know I couldn't take 16. I would take 12 because I had to work full time. Yeah, just so I would not have any debt whatsoever. I owe nobody nothing. Just so I would not have any debt whatsoever. I will owe nobody nothing. And you're telling me and I work my ass off and you're telling me somebody who loaded up on loans it's just going to poof and vanish. That is such fucking bullshit. That is man. That is bullshit. I could have done that same shit and had X amount more fun. Yeah, not that I didn't have fun in the and had X amount more fun.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but not that I didn't have fun in the first place.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly that might be part of the reason why it took you five years.
Speaker 4:I was in no hurry, kev. I was in no hurry. I remember dad goes, my dad goes. You're going to graduate soon. I'm like whew, dad, let me show you the pictures here. I see why you probably want to go to graduate school, don't you son?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Thinking about getting my MBA. Dad Wouldn't be the first time I've been called master.
Speaker 4:All right, kev. What rabbit hole were you in last week?
Speaker 3:Oh, my God, I'm so glad you asked me Because last week, you remember, you said when you're watching something On YouTube and then they'll do the algorithm and on the side they'll put down. Oh, we think you're going to like this. I got sucked into one of those and I feel so terrible about it. What is it? Lfc the Lingerie Fighting Championships.
Speaker 4:You can't just watch one.
Speaker 3:No, you can't. It's part UFC, part WWE.
Speaker 4:It's the Lays potato chips of programming. Can't just have one. No, you can't. I always try that too, by the way. When I get a bag of potato chips, Just for the heck of it, I always say, can I just eat one of them? And the answer is never.
Speaker 3:Never no.
Speaker 4:No, but tell me about it. I mean, who are the big players here? I mean, give me the scouting report. Who should I be looking up? Who are the big players here? I mean, give me the scouting report.
Speaker 3:Who should I be looking up, tim, like I said, it's part UFC with actual fighting and then part WWE with taunting and heels, and so I can't really gauge if it's like a legitimate thing or not. I mean, they've been around for a while and they host the cards at the joint Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Vegas. But yeah, it's. I don't know. I got sucked into it and I shouldn't have.
Speaker 4:Kev. That is so funny and it makes you wonder if you know, like the YouTube robots and the algorithm, if they could talk they'd be like oh, look at him, he's going for the. Oh yeah, he's going lingerie. Okay, let's load his queue up, let's go. Hey, br7419, I'll bet you 20 mega blah, blah, blahs that he goes for this next one too.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, I don't know why that showed up, because I don't watch. I mean, I watch a lot of combat sports, so that's probably why right.
Speaker 4:Yes, the algorithm said combat sports.
Speaker 3:and he's a guy. Let's fuck him up. Come on, let's waste five hours of his time.
Speaker 4:Five hours, five hours of lingerie UFC.
Speaker 3:That was two hours last night, and then we pushed our record time back today, so I got up at my usual time and watched another three hours.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, Let me guess Do you have to make sure you watch this alone when Trish isn't there?
Speaker 3:No, Honestly, Tim. I don't know why some of these girls are in lingerie.
Speaker 4:Oh, I get it. Okay, they're more fighter than lingerie.
Speaker 3:Some are that, but then there's others that are just there as a spectacle.
Speaker 4:Does it just shred? Doesn't their lingerie just shred?
Speaker 3:No, it stays on. And the other thing, too, is that they also have stuff on underneath it that they hide very well, but yeah, they uh like the matches that go for a long time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they get their, their lingerie rearranged and you can see you have to tell me, kev, what's going on with the crowd. Give me the dynamics. How many? What the uh?
Speaker 3:yeah it looks like the joint at the hard Rock Hotel and Casino is sold out. Very few women in the crowd, very few Quite, a lot of mullets from what I see, and maybe some dental work would be. A dentist would be a good advertiser there.
Speaker 4:Ah, okay, okay, yeah, so the collective IQ may equal the judge's points.
Speaker 3:Yes indeed.
Speaker 4:I got you, I got you All right, kev, let's do one of your little fantastic.
Speaker 3:Whoa. What about your rabbit hole? Oh shit.
Speaker 4:I almost forgot my rabbit hole. Yeah, kev, I got into shark attacks. Oh, because it's happened a couple of times already this year yeah, yeah, I, I, I saw it as a news item and of course the algorithm knows, once you have one, you have to laze potato chip, this shit. And then I, you know, I, I, I watched a few of those and then I started getting into um, you know, when sharks and whales breach, yeah, the water would come out and do the jump.
Speaker 3:That shit is so cool to me. Have you ever been next to one that's done that? Have you? Yes, I have. We were in Alaska Prince of Wales Marathon. I was the guest speaker and, as such, the host family that hosts us the husband Rocky is a fishing guide and he took us out the day after and we saw orcas, a pod of orcas, swimming right next to us, and then we saw humpback whales about maybe a football field away, jumping and splashing.
Speaker 6:Come on, baby, one more.
Speaker 4:Okay, he's going gonna do it that is just so awesome, like how did you know to uh press record? I mean, is there is? Did somebody like is there a tour guide saying all right, this is prime moment?
Speaker 3:here, oh yeah, yeah, rocky. He's been a, he's been a guide up there for decades and he was like look, just record all the time he goes, because you're gonna see something.
Speaker 4:And within 30 seconds, yeah, they were flipping out of the water already yeah, yeah, because you know, I remember, remember when I lived in Daytona beach and we know we'd go out and Taft more. Remember Taft.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember him.
Speaker 4:Hold on a second, hold on a second. We'll circle back to it. You're, you're. You remember Taft, he? He was at my first wedding with Kathy.
Speaker 3:Exactly remember him.
Speaker 4:He was your boss he was my yeah, he was my boss in Daytona Beach. You know he ran. He ran the show in in Daytona Beach. He was the PD, yeah, but what happened at the wedding? That because I'm Kevin, you know I'm doing my own thing and I'm messed up myself what happened?
Speaker 3:right. Uh, it was after you and Kathy had tied the knot and you guys were off somewhere. It's like two in the morning and Taff, myself and I think it was your sister, tina, and a couple of other people. We were just sitting around in the hot tub and Taff decides he's going to strip down to his tighty whities. Sitting in the hot tub with all of us drinking and he's in his tighty whities. That's so funny.
Speaker 4:The first night I ever met the guy that sounds like taft, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean the guy's name's taft t-i-f-t. You know he has to be different.
Speaker 4:He is, yeah, but we used to be out on this boat when we lived in daytona beach, um, and, and you can, I mean it literally just look out, uh, to the right or to the left, and eventually a group of dolphins would come up. That's cool, yeah, yeah, that's one. I, I, I didn't appreciate it enough and I, I regret it, you know, because I lived there um two years, almost two years, just under two years, and we lived right on the intercoastal and it was, it was what is beautiful. But you know, I'm career focused. I got to be radio guy, you know.
Speaker 5:I didn't.
Speaker 4:I didn't enjoy it enough and I love Daytona Beach.
Speaker 3:Well, that's one of the things that happens. As we age, we start being able to appreciate things more. We're not so blinded by our own ambitions.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, and you know, for the first month they had me in a hotel there while we were looking for a place, and the hotel is right on the water, daytona beach. It's one of the spring break hotels, but you know, but it's October, there's no spring breakers, but every day, about four or five, six in the afternoon, I would go swim out and swim out as far as I could, just to see how far I could go.
Speaker 3:Oh, we're lucky you're still alive to be able to do the broadcast.
Speaker 4:That's exact. As soon as I told somebody I was doing that for like a few weeks I think it was Dave Wren I told him I was doing these like are you kidding me? You're in Volusia County, which is America's top shark attack. You're doing this at the time when they're feeding. I cannot believe they haven't taken a bite of your leg, at least.
Speaker 4:Yep taking a bite of your leg at least. Yep, yeah, I did it like 15, 20 times before I got that word, and they are. They're saying basically, it's a miracle that I didn't have an encounter.
Speaker 3:That's the first thing I thought of when you're telling me about this, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but yeah, I, you know, kev, I've always been fascinated with sharks, and the one the weird one, though, is at full speed, rams into a great white and breaks its ribs, and the great white eventually died, went to the bottom. Isn't that crazy? That's unbelievable. It's the first time any marine biologist had ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 3:Orcas are dangerous man.
Speaker 4:They didn't think that that was possible, that an orca would do that. They knew if it was ever one-on-one orca versus a shark, that orca would probably win. But they didn't see orca as being that aggressive. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3:Why would they get the moniker killer whale if they're not that aggressive? Exactly.
Speaker 4:And then, of course, Kev. Once you start down that road, it doesn't stop. Then you're getting into other predator animal attacks on other animals.
Speaker 3:You're watching those videos those are tough for me to watch.
Speaker 4:You know the gazelles getting taken down and everything like that. Yeah by the hyenas and yeah I, I, I can only watch a couple of those. I'm the same way man. Yeah, I mean, I know it's the law of nature and I know they have to eat. You know they have to. They got to control their populations to all that stuff. But it's tough to watch because they make a scream like a baby.
Speaker 4:Oh, you even do the sound, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, it's one of those where you watched it and you're like, oh, that's gonna stay with me for a while. Uh-huh, you know, you ever have you ever watched something like that? You know, and you're like, oh, that's going to stay with me for a while. Uh-huh, you know, you ever have you ever watch something like that? You know, and you're like, oh, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be able to breach, bleach my brain of that shit for a while.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, jim, there's things that I've actually seen with my own two eyes. Live, not even that. It still gives me nightmares. Yeah yeah, I don't need to be watching that.
Speaker 4:I get that with dogs and kids myself.
Speaker 5:Uh-huh.
Speaker 4:I can't, you know, I, literally I can't even look at stories about children getting hurt.
Speaker 3:Oh, dude, I will. No, I'll turn it off.
Speaker 4:I can't even, because I get a rage.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, even being semi-retired and chilled, and you know, and in a good place in life, there's some things that still give me that eternal rage and harming children. But you know, it was like. You know what happened to that sweet, was it Jocelyn the 12-year-old? Yes, year old, yes, here in houston, by the, the two fucking animal pieces of shit that decided to torture her and rape her and then kill her. And then they were I guess they were recording it kev I, I like walk around this apartment pacing, gritting my teeth, with my fist clench, you know, just saying tim, don't go to one of the court proceedings, don't do it, don't jump over the rail and beat the shit. I have to talk myself out of it. It just enrages me so much. It enrages me so much.
Speaker 3:I get it, I get it.
Speaker 4:Okay, kev, let's. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3:I've got a top three that'll take your mind off it.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Cline's Top 3.
Speaker 3:All right, so we're recording this on July 1st, which can you believe we're already halfway through the year Ridiculous. And later on this week we have July 4th, Independence Day. So I want from you, Timmy T, your top three most patriotic movies, Top three most patriotic movies For you, america. That was my number one fuck yeah team america. Here it is, man. This is the greatest theme song ever.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was just the first thing that popped in my head. Obviously it's not really a patriotic movie. It's kind of making fun of our. We got to be the world police and spend trillions of dollars you know?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but if you Google most patriotic movies that comes up on Netflix. That's hilarious.
Speaker 4:Yeah, although some of the stuff that Trey and Matt taught us during that was brilliant, you know.
Speaker 5:Easy, easy, Whoa. You got to calm down there, Chuck. I hurt people, I'm a dick. Oh, being a dick ain't so bad. See, there's three kinds of people Dicks, pussies and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, Chuck.
Speaker 4:And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything. That's just if you think about it. That is just so brilliant of a way to explain shit.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? Oh, they are brilliant. They are brilliant, brilliant people. Yeah, bigger, longer, uncut to blame Canada. Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 4:And I have to give them credit too. They're one of the very few that get a blank pass in terms of a PC and uncancellable.
Speaker 3:Well, people were up in arms when it first came out, but then you just stick to your guns and they don't care anymore. I mean shit man. There's 700 million liquid.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they don't. Once you get to that point, in all honesty, man, it's like this podcast for me I don't care, I really don't. If anything that I say offends you, I don't care, I just don't. Man, words shouldn't be offending people. When you say that a word or some comedy or something like that offends you, you tell me right there that you're a weak human being. And I don't have time at my age for weak human beings. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3:Well, if something does offend you, then you can get rid of it. Don't pay attention to it, turn it off. But I've always been of the opinion it's not the word, it's the intent. Is there malicious intent behind that word? The word it's the intent Is there malicious intent behind that word.
Speaker 4:You can tell Exactly. I have no malicious intent with any of the things that I say ever in my lifetime on the radio for 26 years, or on this podcast for the last five months or however long we've been doing it. I have no malicious intent. Everything is satire, everything is in. I'm just trying to again. The whole thing is this I'm having fun talking to my radio partner of many years who I have great rapport and chemistry with. If there are people that listen in fly on the wall and they dig it great. If you don't, I don't care. I just I don't care. You know, in all honesty, kev, even if nobody listened to this, I would still do it because it's great therapy, it's fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's great therapy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, it's great, yeah. So again, tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline.
Speaker 5:We are brothers Osborne, so.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 4:So we got Team America. I love it. Hey, we got another total tangent. Let's bring it all back here.
Speaker 4:No, that's the beautiful thing about, uh, about this podcast and about top threes, is you don't know where it's going to go. Uh, kev, obviously, saving private Ryan. Okay, yep, I mean that that that's gotta be up there. Uh, see, I this is so hard cause there's so many where that they you know, patriotic stuff and stuff about dads always gets me a little ruffled, you know really good. So I'm trying to think of the movies that that brought the tear. You know, saving private ryan earned this. I mean, I was like what sir?
Speaker 3:you know I'm saying, yeah, well, that has special meaning, even more special meaning to you because your father was in world War II, right yeah. So I totally get the personal connection there.
Speaker 4:It's just a brilliant movie, it's just a great movie anyway, even though it couldn't be considered patriotic. I mean it's still Soldiers Platoon. When Willem Dafoe you know he made it to the helicopter jump zone or the helicopter launch zone and you know they couldn't pick him up because Barringer had shot him and the other, you know, and he finally goes down, I mean that fucked with me.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, do you remember that?
Speaker 3:in Platoon. I haven't seen Platoon. I knew that would stop him in his tracks. Have a good day. I offended him. He him in his tracks. Have a good day. I offended him. He's done with me. See again. There was no malicious intent there, but that was offensive that I have not seen Platoon.
Speaker 4:Kev. How is that possible? Because you're like again, you're apex demo for that I know. I mean we were 17, were 17, 16, 17 years old. That movie is an academy award winning movie. I, everybody watched that movie.
Speaker 3:What the hell yeah, no, there, I need to see that. I need to see the deer hunter. Uh, with christopher walken, who won the academy award for that. You don't need to see that one. Why, that's not good, you won't like it, okay, uh, apocalypse now. Never seen it. You've never seen the horror.
Speaker 4:What am I missing here? I know I'm gonna have regret. What do you have? What do you have?
Speaker 3:uh well, team america is on my list, apollo 13. Oh fuck yeah. Okay, guys.
Speaker 6:We're going to the moon. This is the crew of the Apollo 13.
Speaker 3:Wishing everyone back on Earth a pleasant evening. Houston, we have a problem Because that I mean landing on the moon, yeah, but what they did, that's got to be nasa's proudest moment bringing those three guys back alive. And everything was going against them.
Speaker 4:Just amazing, and then that was good and then my other one.
Speaker 3:Uh is miracle when we took down the Soviets in the Olympic Games.
Speaker 4:We can beat these guys. That was the best.
Speaker 3:I don't think there's ever been a finer sports movie.
Speaker 4:Oh see, now you're tangenting off on me, man.
Speaker 3:Oh, I know, I know.
Speaker 4:First off, yeah, in the movie miracle, where Kurt Russell, who played her Brooks, when they won the gold medal or actually when they just beat the Russians, they still had not won the gold medal, we just beat USSR. When he walks into the interior part of the arena and just yes, yes yes, I was like oh man, yeah, Obviously that was a big deal to him.
Speaker 3:You think? Well, because we weren't supposed to even be in the same arena, the same rink, with the Soviets. We had just gotten beaten by them a month and a half before 10 to 3. And nobody thought we could even hang with them. And here we did, we just beat them the greatest hockey team ever assembled on the planet at the time. And we beat them.
Speaker 4:It's still it's still the greatest sports upset in history, yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh absolutely, but I, I, I can't, I don't know, man, okay, let's think about this. We're going to go off on the tangent because you brought it up, so it's your fault about this. Look, we're gonna go off on the tangent because you brought it up, so it's your fault. Uh-huh, um, greatest sports movies of all time. Obviously, miracle is up there. I'm just trying to think if I'm, if I'm skimming through channels and I see miracle on, I'm what, I'm gonna watch it for sure. I'm gonna watch it all the way through. Yeah, um, same thing with the natural oh great movie I fucking love that movie.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because you know I remember watching in the theater with my dad and stuff like that and I just I just love man, the home run and the lights just exploding. Uh, you know that to me it's still today brings down the house for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the natural Robert Redford plays a uh, a baseball player who fashions his own bat out of a piece of wood and he calls it wonder boy yeah, and you know he, after a long layoff due to a scandal he was, he was a prospect pitcher.
Speaker 4:He comes back late 30s, early 40s or ever way up where he was as a hitter and ends up being, you know, the the best, uh, uh, natural hitter, the natural that anybody's ever seen. Yeah. Which I. I gotta have that in there. Um, remember the Titans. I'll watch that.
Speaker 3:Okay, another one I haven't seen.
Speaker 4:I just got. Why, why? Yeah, that's even got Denzel in it, man, and Denzel is a tour de force actor. I know he is, I know, yeah, how do you not watch, okay, varsity Blues, which I just watched, which I just watched this weekend?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's a great movie and I like it for the wrong reason. I just can't believe how much of a dick John Voight is. Oh God, he makes me my skin crawl in that movie.
Speaker 4:When he was shaking the face mask. You got a bad attitude and you don't listen.
Speaker 2:We do things around here my way. You understand that you think you're in some fancy school. Bullshit you show me the kind of smarts makes me wonder. If you know the difference between a sneeze and a wet fart. You're going to be second string all your life, boy.
Speaker 4:That happened to me playing football.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, no, that was back in the day. That was acceptable behavior.
Speaker 4:Coaches would grab you by the face mask and they'd shake it around and you're going like this, your neck, like this, your neck is moving, all funny and stuff like that, and you just had to sit there and take it, john boyd just played such a great a-hole, oh, kev, and you gotta give credit to uh actors that can play great a-holes too.
Speaker 4:Oh, I know, I mean when you literally want to choke uh, um, somebody that's acting. You know they're good, yes, indeed, and you're right about john boyd he that that's acting, you know they're good, yes, indeed, and you're right about John Boyd that's a testament to how good of an actor he is, because I just wanted to choke him.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's such a brilliant actor. He won an Academy Award for the Champ, but then when he played Mickey Donovan on Ray Donovan dude, he was the ultimate slime. I got a good one for you. What's the difference between acne and a priest? Pop don't? That's cool. Acne waits for a boy to be 14 before it comes on his face. Excuse me, take this fucking funny mug.
Speaker 4:Come on, what's wrong with everybody? Do you know that he is Angelina Jolie's dad?
Speaker 3:Yes, are they back talking to each other or?
Speaker 4:did they?
Speaker 3:restrain for the longest time.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I think he has the wrong politics for that whole Hollywood crew. Okay, that's caused him a fallout. Okay, he likes the Constitution and freedom and shit and that's unpopular in those zones.
Speaker 3:Yeah, very much so in Hollywood.
Speaker 4:So yeah, he likes the Constitution and freedom and shit, and that's unpopular in those zones. Yeah, very much so in Hollywood. So, yeah, john Voight, without a doubt, did a great job on that, but I'm trying to think other sports movies, kev. If it's on and you see it, you're stopping and you're like okay, this is my next two hours.
Speaker 3:It's one of my top five movies of all time Rocky.
Speaker 5:My proposition is this Would you be interested in fighting Apollo Creed for the World Heavyweight Championship? No, rocky, you believe that America is the land of opportunity? Yeah, apollo Creed does, and he's going to prove it to the whole world by giving an unknown a shot at the title and that unknown is you.
Speaker 4:How do I miss that one, rocky? I automatically always watch that one.
Speaker 3:And a lot of people don't realize this, but Rocky was somewhat based on a real story. Lou Wapner was the heavyweight contender who was fighting Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 4:I want to say and I could be wrong, chuck Wapner.
Speaker 3:Chuck Wapner, Thank you, Thank you Very good. So yeah, Chuck Wapner, I was wrong, but there was no way he was going to win. But all he wanted to do was go the distance. And Balboa Stallone saw this story and said I can make a character out of this.
Speaker 4:Stallone was also nothing at that time. He had done nothing.
Speaker 3:Nothing. Well, I mean, he did Loras a flatbush, but he was no big part.
Speaker 4:No big part. He was in that with Fonz, with Henry Winkler, and it's kind of a cool little cult movie because it was. You know, rocky, before he became Rocky Stallone was in that and you could see the potential as like, okay, this guy could be pretty good. He's pretty charismatic when he comes on screen. You have to look at him. He's one of those, you know. But he hadn't had his vehicle yet and he just wrote that uh, you know, and I've read, I've seen the documentary of you know, and I've seen the documentary of you know, he's just poor in New York City. I mean can't eat. You know he actually had to sell his dog, oh wow, and then got the dog back after Rocky.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's Butkus that is his real dog.
Speaker 4:That's his real dog. Uh-huh, yep, well was.
Speaker 5:Was yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I guess there have been butkus two, butkus three or whatever since then. But yeah, I mean, you know he needed, he needed a vehicle himself and he, you know he's just one of those people's like okay, I can't break it into acting, we're getting to acting.
Speaker 4:I'm just gonna write my own thing there you go and then you know, just again, it's just like one person with vision and at the studio says we like your story, and the next thing you know it again. It's just like one person with vision at the studio says we like your story, and the next thing you know, it's an Academy Award winning monster.
Speaker 3:Where are you at on this movie and I know it has special significance to the Lone Star State the Rookie. I like the Rookie, Real story. Yeah, 36-year-old and he becomes a pitcher for the Tampa Bay Rays for a season.
Speaker 4:It just makes you wonder, man, like, how many people out there actually have like a 96, 97 mile an hour fastball and they just have not like been discovered or they haven't put it together yet. Yeah, you know. Oh, yeah, because it's rare. I mean, it's rare to throw that kind of heat.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:But it's probably out there randomly and you just don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of strong arms out there that we don't know about and who probably have no interest in baseball. That's why they don't ever get discovered.
Speaker 4:Oh, couldn't care less. Yeah, I mean they say that Mahomes, you know, has that kind of heat, but obviously he found another calling.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, no, he could have played professional baseball. His dad did for the Minnesota Twins. What's a better baseball movie, Bull Durham or Major League?
Speaker 4:Ooh, that's close. I've got to go Major League.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:Barely, though. I mean just barely.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:I was telling Audrey and Jonas and a few people when Donald Sutherland passed away last week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, big loss.
Speaker 4:He was awesome, kev. The Mr X JFK monologue that he did with Kevin Costner as Judge Garrison was one of the greatest pieces of acting in history.
Speaker 6:We had the entire cabinet on a trip to the Far East. We had one third of the combat division returning from Germany in the air above the United States. At the time of the shooting, at 1234 pm, the entire telephone system went out in Washington for a solid hour and on the plane back to Washington, word was radioed from the White House situations room to Lyndon Johnson. That radioed from the White House situations room to Lyndon Johnson that one individual performed the assassination. Does that sound like a bunch of coincidences to you, Mr Garrison? No.
Speaker 4:Not for one moment. Still to this day, I'm in awe and if you remember, when you and I talked to Kevin Costner, that was the only time Kevin Costner said where he felt outgunned.
Speaker 5:Yep.
Speaker 4:And Donald Sutherland himself said he worked on that monologue for three months with his wife just doing yard work walking down the street. He would be grocery shopping and just going through all that stuff.
Speaker 3:After Donald Sutherland died I watched a couple of interviews that he had done and I love this about him. He said I became an actor, and when I became an actor, nothing pleased me more than when some stranger would walk up to me and say, hey, Donald, and then we would start talking about movie roles that I had done. He goes that is the ultimate, sincerest form of compliment you can ever get as an actor.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Kevin, he was multi-generational, I mean Audrey and Jonas' generation. He was President Snow on Hunger Games. That's right, yes, you know, for us it was, you know, jfk and a bunch of different movies. For the generation before us it was MASH Right, he was the original Hawkeye.
Speaker 3:Yes, he was Yep, yeah.
Speaker 4:And you know, did you know that Kiefer Sutherland, his son, yeah, didn't really know't really know that it was him, it was his dad, no way, and they look so exactly alike. Oh yeah, they do that Donald Sutherland just has to say, ok, I guess yeah, ok, I love that.
Speaker 3:No denying that I love it All right.
Speaker 4:What else we got? Kevin Kline.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 4:So we we've pretty much exhausted movies yeah, um, again, man watch that if you get a chance, kev, watch the mr x jfk scene. Okay, I don't know if you've ever seen it before no, I haven't oh my God, please, and anybody listening to me. The two greatest solo monologues in movie history Alec Baldwin, glenn Gary, glenn Ross. Coffees for closers.
Speaker 2:Put that down, put that coffee down Coffees for closers only.
Speaker 4:You think I'm fucking with you, and the other is Donald Sutherland's Mr X JFK laying out, you know, and basically teaching everybody how it was a massive conspiracy when Kennedy was assassinated, coming from the top channels of the government. So it's brilliant stuff.
Speaker 3:OK, I'll watch those. See, that's the difference between Tim and me. Tim's are, you know, Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross and JFK.
Speaker 5:Mine is chick stigmy because I rarely wear underwear and when I do, it's usually something unusual. But now I know why I have always lost women to guys like you. I mean, it's not just the uniform, it's the stories that you tell so much fun and imagination. That's a great one too, and that was the.
Speaker 4:the difference between those two and that one right there is that one's a rift.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bill Murray and Stripes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the story on it was, is is Herman Harold Ramis went into the trailer before the scene and kind of work through that right there and the other guys had no idea. Uh, and and in the documentary I saw about the movie stripes that they couldn't stop cracking up. I mean they were doing everything they could to not crack up because it's just so brilliant. Oh, dude, it's just amazing. Chicks dig me because I rarely. I mean, where does that fucking come from?
Speaker 3:it's so brilliant and even bill murray.
Speaker 4:And even the guy you know it's an old gruff actor from many years ago, the guy who played Sergeant Holka when he was doing the big toe stuff. He was having trouble not cracking up too. He's like this guy's fucking great man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a great movie.
Speaker 4:All right, I know a lot of you appreciate good talent. That's why you should skate away from this podcast and find it immediately Kev been fun. What else we got? I'll tell you this Again. I'm so happy with the increased numbers in terms of the people who are listening and downloading this podcast. Please do us a favor Like us, follow us, download, subscribe, give us a rating, tell friends about it. We are growing, but we want to grow further, so without you, we can't make that happen. We have merchandise on Tuttle Cline's Facebook. Please go there and buy our neat stuff. Look how sweet that logo is. Oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 4:Come on. You know you want to sport that logo. You know you do, it looks cool. I mean we may not be cool, but that shit is cool. All right, kev, I got to jump. Okay, you're going to work out.
Speaker 3:You can tell I can. How's the shoulder I?
Speaker 4:don't know. I guess it becomes one of those things where you've gotten so used to the pain that you work through it. I mean, I guess that's what a lot of the athletes you know. They're just like, okay, that's always going to be there. I just got to muddle through it.
Speaker 3:Right, I mean it happens in injuries and happens in life. I mean, look, you got through the pain of working with me for 25 years, so yeah, yeah, I'm used to the drudgery Later dude.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Kline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode, and you can get more Kline on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay, fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
