Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
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Ep #15: Double Standards, High-Octane Adventures, and Celebrity Surprises with Tuttle & Kline
Sibling rivalry, workplace drug tests, and the disparity in the justice system—what do they all have in common? Quite a lot, as it turns out! Join us on the Tuttle & Kline Podcast as we kick things off with some humorous family anecdotes before tackling the serious issue of how the legal system treats high-profile figures. From Trump to Epstein, Spacey to Weinstein, our conversation gets heavy as we explore societal double standards, but we also tip our hats to the bravery of individuals like Brad Pitt who stand up against abuse.
Shift gears with us as we relive the thrill and adrenaline of the Indianapolis 500. We reminisce about legendary moments like AJ Foyt's historic fourth win and Helio Castroneves' Spider-Man fence climb. Tune in as we share personal stories from the early '90s music scene, where Metallica's dominance over Guns N' Roses and the cinematic brilliance of "Reservoir Dogs" left lasting impressions on our younger selves. These nostalgic moments provide a perfect backdrop for our rollercoaster ride through thrilling and often dangerous personal adventures.
Ever wondered how tall Vince Vaughn really is or what it was like interviewing Henry Winkler during his "Happy Days" fame? We wrap up this episode with some fun and surprising insights into the sizes of various celebrities we’ve met over the years. Plus, we tackle the absurdity of over-the-top celebrations for minor milestones and the complexities of generational wealth. It's an episode packed with humor, heartfelt moments, and insightful commentary—don’t miss it!
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got the boys in the other room so I apologize in advance if they start fighting or something like that. Oh, do they fight a lot? Oh, they go after each other sometimes, Really. Oh, they're feisty dude, they're my half-Mexican ones.
Speaker 3:Yes, but is it fair? I mean, there's about a five-year age difference.
Speaker 2:Dallas has such long arms. I mean Dallas is huge now, right, I mean he's huge, so he just holds him back with one arm and kind of laughs about it. Oh really, but Timmy's feisty, I get that, yeah, and and about it? Not really, but timmy's feisty I. I get that, yeah, and and. And. I was just as a matter of fact. I was just talking to dallas. Dallas was, uh, telling me that he saw, um, I don't know, tiktok or whatever. He watches, youtube or something like that, that some guy, um, he was worried because he smoked weed, he was worried about a drug test, so he switched urine with another sample, like on the counter.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And that guy got busted for cocaine and meth and everything.
Speaker 3:Not so bright.
Speaker 2:I was like, hey, man, you know it's, it's a risk you take.
Speaker 3:Hey, with marijuana being legal in some States and not in other states, how can they police that in job employment now?
Speaker 2:It's all random, based on agendas, man. Oh, ok, do they want to bust somebody or fire somebody or something like that? It's different rules for everybody. You see how the world is now. Yeah, you know they got. They got Trump on trial for doing exactly what clinton did with paula jones and paying her off 800 g's same thing. Oh, he paid her 800 g's, yeah, 800 g's and cheap. Then, yeah, trump, uh, paid her much less, but he's on trial. He's on trial and nobody from epstein the list has ever been brought to public or brought to trial. That's so freaking funny to me.
Speaker 3:Oh, with his death, epstein's death, that kind of fell by the wayside, huh. Oh, yeah, they buried that quickly. Yeah, you don't hear about that anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh, you will, though Eventually oh.
Speaker 3:Hey, have you watched that Kevin Spacey documentary?
Speaker 2:I have not, I heard it. I heard it's brutal. I'm so bummed out about it. You know you had an idea he was that way, but he was such a great actor man.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So if you're not familiar with what Kevin Spacey did, my recollection of it he was grooming men, boys and that kind of stuff grooming men boys and that kind of stuff, yeah, and there's a? It's a. It's a Netflix documentary called Unmasking Spacey and he is vehemently denied it. But yeah, it's, it's bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kev, I see, the thing is is with him and, like Weinstein, it was. It was a running joke, everybody knew about it. 10 bucks, five bucks, eight bucks. Everybody knew about it. Ten bucks, five bucks, eight bucks, and I'll do it. Fine. Help, I've escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement. Help me. Ha, I am so outrageous. Give me the cash. I mean, where are the alphas? Just to kick people's ass, if you know something like that? I mean, to my knowledge, only one person has ever stood up Brad Pitt, you do come out, as you know one of the heroes of this story.
Speaker 5:You confronted a guy that very few people were willing to confront, apparently.
Speaker 4:Oh, I think that's I mean a bit much. I have a couple of things to say. I mean, at that moment, you know, I was just, I was a boy from the Ozarks on the playground and that's I mean. That was that's how we confronted with things and wanted to make sure nothing happened further because she was going to do two films.
Speaker 3:Yep, brad Pitt did it with Weinstein.
Speaker 2:Brad Pitt went into Harvey Weinstein's office when he found out about the Gwyneth Paltrow thing, who was his fiancee at the time, I think Right yeah. And grabbed Weinstein by the shirt, pinned him against the wall and said if you ever lay a finger on Gwyneth again, I will fucking kill you which, had I known Harvey Weinstein, I'd have done the same thing.
Speaker 3:No, you wouldn't have For Gwynny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Brad Pitt is the only guy with enough star power where he didn't need Weinstein.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, he wasn't getting messed with.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, you know, if Weinstein blocked him out of all the Miramax stuff, he would still be fine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, very true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know, it just makes me wonder Instead of making jokes about it, somebody stand up, yeah absolutely, but then you're talking about careers.
Speaker 3:I mean, they hold that over their heads, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I get it, man, I get it. Nobody wants to rock the boat, even though the boat is like sinking and going down. Yep, exactly, can't rock it, even though we're going to be on the bottom of the ocean soon, can't?
Speaker 3:rock it. But how about that bullshit that he gets a new trial, weinstein gets a new trial?
Speaker 2:I just yeah, it's just it's all bizarro world out there now, man. It certainly is. Our justice system is anything but justice. It's a kangaroo court world out there now, man, it certainly is. Our justice system is anything but justice. It is, it's a kangaroo court. It's ridiculous, it's a mockery and I don't want to get upset with that stuff. Kev, I want to celebrate the Indy 500,. Buddy, I like your T-shirt there man.
Speaker 3:Thank you, sir, thank you. I got this the year that Marcus Erickson won his first and only so far, and I would have gotten my money back yesterday because of Marcus Erickson was the first out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly On the when you pull the names Yep, yeah, yeah, isn't that crazy how he boy.
Speaker 3:That was a terrible month for him. I'm sure he wants that in the rear view mirror as fast as possible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Indy 500 for, for those unaware, there's a lot of people like, well, yeah, it's a huge deal. I mean, I grew up in Indiana, so it's woven in the fabric of my DNA. I mean, my first race I ever saw when I was a little boy was AJ Foyt from Houston winning his fourth one, 1977.
Speaker 5:My brother and I the black and white checkered flag and in the pits the red and white checkered shirts of the Gilmore Point team. It's all over. Aj has done it. He has won his fourth Indianapolis 500.
Speaker 3:If you haven't ever been to an Indy 500, even if you have just a slight curiosity about it, you must put it on your bucket list to go. Because I was that way before Tim took me I was like, yeah, I'll occasionally watch it on TV. Then Tim took me to my first one. I am fucking hooked.
Speaker 2:It's so awesome.
Speaker 3:Tim, literally the entire month of May. I get so excited, I get so excited, and then I cry, almost cry, after the checkered flag drops because I got to wait a whole other year.
Speaker 2:Now I got to wait a whole nother year now. Yeah, kev, and the pre-race festivities, particularly the Memorial Day and the Fallen Soldier angle to it, that is just so awesome so incredible.
Speaker 3:I've not had a dry eye when Taps plays.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean 21-gun salute Taps. I mean Kev, the double flyover.
Speaker 3:I had two fly overs this year. That's right, yeah, with the Thunderbirds. They flew over in formation for the national anthem and then Back home again in.
Speaker 2:Indiana. Yeah, when I was a little kid growing up, Jim Neighbors every year.
Speaker 5:Back home again in Indiana.
Speaker 2:I always flipped out. You know there's Private Pyle, yeah, gomer Pyle, and look how he sings man.
Speaker 3:Would it be sacrilege to say that Jim Cornelison is better than Gomer Pyle or the Jim neighbors? I love Cornelison's voice.
Speaker 2:Did you hear the lightning strike there?
Speaker 3:Yes, I did, yeah, Sorry.
Speaker 2:Did you hear the lightning strike there? Yes, I did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sorry Did you hear that Careful yeah careful, careful.
Speaker 2:I'm a born and raised Hoosier.
Speaker 3:Hey, speaking of lightning strikes, did you see the video of Metallica's concert?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you know, 40 years later. Right yeah, I mean every concert you go to you're waiting for that to happen. Come on, Lightning. Come on, Okay, not this time, Totally waiting for it Real quick. The best concert I ever saw was Guns N' Roses in Metallica.
Speaker 3:That was early in the Guns N' Roses career, right 92 or 93.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah when did you see? That show At the Hoosier Dome.
Speaker 3:Ah, okay, packed Hoosier Dome, of course.
Speaker 2:And Metallica. I mean they buried Guns N' Roses live. Mm-hmm, you could tell, because Metallica did. I mean they buried Guns N' Roses live. You could tell that because they were first. You know it was a co-headliner situation, but Metallica went first. Their goal every night was to bury Guns N' Roses, which they did. I mean, guns N' Roses was great, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3:And they were great, but you know you don't want to jack with Metallica. No, no, I saw metallica's second show on the black album. You know the just simply titled metallica, but it's been known as the black album. I saw the second show at the frank irwin center on the campus of ut austin and they played for two hours and 30 minutes. The house lights came on, everybody starts filtering out. Hetfield comes back on stage and goes you motherfuckers ain't going home yet, are you? Everybody filters back in. He's like, hey man, he goes. This is the second show of the tour. We got some things we need to work out. You guys don't mind if we jam up here for another 30 minutes. And they played three songs, worked them out. Yeah, it was amazing, isn't that awesome?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, it was cool and you felt like a part of it too, didn't you? You were like, because you know, you were like cause, cause, you know that you were early on and they didn't have that tweaked yet.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh, oh yeah. No, I felt like I was right there. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:It was kind of like the time I was I think it was 1992 or something like that when I went into this movie theater. Uh, with a date of mine, we wanted a movie theater with like nobody there and there, and you know, because of my date, we wanted to be in the movie.
Speaker 3:They're just us. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:cab, I'm following you, sir, do I have to paint a picture cab?
Speaker 3:no, sir, you don't. I think alanis morissette said fs. I know the version of me?
Speaker 4:is she perverted, like me would?
Speaker 1:she go down on you in a theater, exactly, but here's the.
Speaker 2:It was this absolutely unknown independent movie and I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's called Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker 3:No, never heard of it, uh-uh no.
Speaker 2:Tarantino.
Speaker 3:Yes, of course.
Speaker 2:I'm like one of the only people that has ever seen Reservoir Dogs in a theater, because it didn't do well in theaters, all right, but I remember the whole time just being going oh my god, this is awesome. Yeah, listen to the dialogue. Hey, honey, get your head up, listen to the dialogue. Listen to the dialogue. She was pissed, too, because she was. She was like she came and she, you know, you know she was down, but she was down. You know what I'm saying? Yes, of course, but I was like up looking at the screen, going. Oh my God, they're like talking like regular people.
Speaker 3:This is so cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're watching TV and she's tickling you. Mr Pink, put it this way Kev. Mrs Pink didn't get.
Speaker 3:Mr Pink. At that time, timmy T, I'll be the cleaner. Oh, that's funny, kev. Thank you, tim.
Speaker 2:And I remember afterwards I was having like a think tank discussion with her driving and everything like that, and she's like what the fuck is this? Yeah, anyway, hooters, waitresses, they they're so fun.
Speaker 3:Uh, hey, we were just talking about the indie 500. That brings up my top three. Can we get to it?
Speaker 2:oh, hold on real quick before we do that. We got to put to bed the uh indie 500 real quick, okay, did you? I don't know if you realize this. You know, um, but uh, you, I'm watching poolside here and there's somebody listening in on the radio of it and there's a lot of Mexican-Americans at the pool and we almost had our first Mexican-American winner in history. White flag, amigo. White flag, white flag, amigo. Here he comes. There has never been a.
Speaker 3:Mexican driver win the Indianapolis 500. Maybe that time is now with one more left to go pato goes to the lead he's not gonna lift this time.
Speaker 2:He did it against erickson and lost part of the award to the front off of turn two perfect. A war tries to break the draft. Newgarden's like.
Speaker 3:I've been in this situation before, joseph.
Speaker 2:Newgarden the rally outside of Pato Award. This is mind-blowing.
Speaker 3:Joseph Newgarden had to wait 12 times for the winner, and now he's going to do it back-to-back.
Speaker 2:Joseph Newgarden is a two-time Indy 500 winner. Hato O'Ward it doesn't sound very Mexican, correct His dad's Irish, but his mom he was born in Monterey, mexico. His mom's maiden name is Junco Junco and he's from San Antonio. And, boy, that would have just been a massive thing for, uh, indie racing and massive thing period, uh, especially for, you know, places like Houston with a large Mexican population. They were getting nuts out there and then you could just see him go. Ah, but Joseph Newgarden, it's, it's tough to not root for that guy.
Speaker 3:I love Newgarden. Oh yeah, no, I love Newgarden. Great guy mean, that was one of the things that I was thinking about this morning when I did you watch any of the pre-race? I mean it was four hours long, a bunch of it. They, they, they interviewed him. Uh right, almost at the outset. I don't know if I've ever heard of a more well-spoken athlete. Oh, he's really good. Oh my God, god, dude, he is so savvy and just everything he says is so clear and concise and yeah, I love the guy.
Speaker 2:I love the way he had his son kiss the bricks too. That was so cool. Yeah, I mean that that's almost like a john john jfk funeral thing where he saluted, uh-huh, having his little boy kiss the bricks. I mean that'll be a kev. That'll be a massively popular picture. Uh, framed the picture in indiana. Everybody, like everybody, will get that one oh, I'm sure yeah the kid kissing the bricks.
Speaker 2:I, I like new gardening. The only thing I don't like is he stole my celebration idea. I always thought, uh, you know, I would you know when I was a kid. When you're a kid in indiana, you dream about racing in the indy 500. But I always, uh, dreamed that I would go into the crowd. Well, yeah, and that's what he does. So he goes, he goes into the crowd. I mean, you know elio castroneves that's pretty cool with the spider man on the um on the fence, which you saw one of his victories with me in in indy, didn't you? Didn't we watch elio? We did, yeah, elio. Elio saw one of his victories with me in Indy, didn't?
Speaker 3:we watch Elio, we did yeah.
Speaker 2:Elio won one of them and I thought that was cool. But I always thought to myself yeah, you got to go in, you got to go in, man, somebody's got to go in. And he went in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it was spontaneous the first year. This year he said he had planned it out and he said that's what he's going to do every year if he's fortunate enough to win another one.
Speaker 2:Do you see the Indiana State Troopers too? They're like, oh shit, he's coming to this section, they're just sitting there talking and they're like, oh God, they're scrambling and running to do some crowd control.
Speaker 3:That's what Trish said.
Speaker 2:She's like, yeah, he might think it's all fun, you know, because the Indiana State Troopers I mean he can't be stabbed by a fan on their watch that would be bad, it would be horrible. So here they are. I mean, they've had a long day already, four-hour delay, you know, three-and-a-half-hour race, and now he's coming to the stands like whoa. I've been here since three in the morning, man, and they're running over trying to keep their hat on.
Speaker 3:You're not dealing with the most sober of folk there.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. You got to be on guard, you know, because some of them get a little exuberant. I don't think they'll ever, anybody will ever mean harm. No, but some of them will get exuberant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no that I'll tell you what man, that, that sporting event and any death metal concert, that is probably the salt of the earth crowd you're ever going to run across. I mean, there's absolutely no risk of danger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're more likely to get accosted and molested in church than at those venues Seriously. Particularly if you're an altar boy.
Speaker 3:As you were. Yes, I was Tim one of the rare ones that escaped.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and let me say that right now. I just want to clarify, because since I just made a joke, that I was never hit on once.
Speaker 3:And it scarred him for life.
Speaker 2:And I was good looking. I'm like what's wrong with me, father? I mean, you know, I'd even put a little musk on.
Speaker 3:The priest asked him to take him to reservoir dogs all right, get your top three going kevin just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's tunneling clients top three all right. So going around a 2.5 mile oval track at 240 miles per hour on the on the stretch straightaways, and and then two, 32, 29 at the uh at the the turns, is incredibly dangerous. I mean, we've seen somebody lose their life before in in auto racing, so it got me thinking top three most dangerous things you've ever done.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, um. Well, one of them um, um dating and marrying and Mexicans.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, that was going to be my number one for you and living to tell about it, that's the one that was dangerous, that was dangerous but they get a pass Remember.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, exactly, that was dangerous, but they get a pass. Remember, yes, exactly exactly, um kev, I've, I've done a lot, you know, I, I, I had some buddies when, when you know, late teens, early 20s, I mean we would, we would drive over a bridge, over water uh-huh we would pull over the side, and the last one to jump in the water was was a pussy, you know.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I would say some of those drops were a good 35, 40 feet, 50 feet, really, into unknown depths of water.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you don't know what's underneath there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did that three or four times, pretty, pretty stupid. That's that's. That's probably the most dangerous. But you know, I I did skydiving several times.
Speaker 3:I don't think that's dangerous, that's very controlled yeah, I was gonna ask you about that because for me that would be dangerous, but it actually is really quite safe uh, yeah, but the one and you witnessed this.
Speaker 2:I think you saw this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I did, I know what you know, what you're going to say. I totally saw it.
Speaker 2:Barber Motorsports Park. Yeah, buddy On the motorcycle, steve Knapp, steve Rapp, steve Rapp, yeah, steve Rapp, that's his name Does a wheelie with me on the back and we were doing Kev 210 miles an hour Down the front stretch of motorsports park. Yeah, doing 210. And you know he was told by the uh handlers hey, yeah, tuttle's the big alpha male. Uh, you know, on radio here in in birmingham, alabama, uh, let's try to, you know, rattle his cage a little bit give him a ride he was doing some squirrely stuff that he usually doesn't do and I was fine with it.
Speaker 2:I was like man, man, this is awesome. What do you got? Man, come on, come on. And then he just was like all right wheelies, and my back was maybe two feet from the ground.
Speaker 3:No, it was a really tall wheelie At about 200.
Speaker 2:I just remember we were coming around the turn and we got a nice little straightaway and he looks back, he goes hang on you good, and I was like Whoa.
Speaker 3:Yeah, here's the weird thing about it, though. When he says, hang on, there's nothing to hang on to. All Tim's doing is Tim's got his chest on. Steve wraps back and Tim's hands are on the gas tank there. There, you know, they're on the, they're there. He's not holding on to anything, he's just gripping that thing as tightly as he can. So hold on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's kind of kind of an oxymoron, exactly and the thing I really didn't like and probably I should have when I saw it, I should never even got on the bike. He had a t-shirt on. On the back of the t-shirt says if you're reading this the bitch fell off but you didn't.
Speaker 3:So no, I hung on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you did uh, kev I, a few years before that, do you remember, in nashville I I flew with the canadian snowbirds, uh um their formation. Yeah, air formation team and kev. They were doing rolls on me, they were doing spins, we were doing heavy g's, man yeah yeah and I don't know if that's dangerous.
Speaker 2:They're pretty controlled. But you know, they, they were. I mean again hey, this is the, this is the alpha guy on radio here in nashville. Let's screw with them a little bit, man, they're trying to make me throw up. They flat out said it. We're trying to make you throw up of course. Oh yeah, I mean, that's a badge of honor for them and I didn't but on, but on the ground I was like, when we got that back, I was like what's it like?
Speaker 3:What's it like going? You know you're parallel to the ground. Then all of a sudden they just shoot straight up vertical. Unbelievably, I can't imagine.
Speaker 2:Kev. I've always been enamored with speed. I mean, it's just like with the skydiving you know the 60 seconds of free fall where you're doing 130 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:It's terminal velocity they call it right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean it's so fast and you have no barrier. You're not on a vehicle or anything like that. I mean it's just you doing that speed. It's incredible, it is. I mean I love speed and you have you got to think for speed too.
Speaker 3:I mean you rode the uh, the rice burner motorcycles man yeah, that's one of my most dangerous things, uh riding uh in uh rose sharon uh on a gsx or suzuki gsxr 750 on a two road going 150. That's just dumb, that's dumb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I, we. I had a guy in college, um Benj Scott Benji, uh, he used he would leave for the summer and he had a GSX-R. Yeah, and you know, in Indiana they didn't have a helmet law or anything like that, and he that and he would let me take it out and I dude, hey man, I would get that thing up, yeah, that was easy to do.
Speaker 2:I I mean kevin, I remember no helmet. Country roads, muncie, indiana, you know 170, 180 miles an hour, yeah, and and you know, you see in the distance there's some kind of uh creature walking in the road, crying across the road. I don't raccoon or something like that and you're just like that can kill me right there.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Yeah Well, I look back on it and I'm like man, any kind of rodent runs out and you hit it. You're done, dude, you're done.
Speaker 2:Well, any kind of reaction you'd have, because you, even if you were like, hey, man, I got to go straight. I mean you have a natural reaction to to avoid the rodent, even though every textbook says run right through it. Oh sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely, but no, you're, oh man, I mean, I call it my cheating death era.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I remember as soon as we moved to Houston, Kev like you wrote it on the Houston highways like once or twice, and we're like this is going to kill me.
Speaker 3:I can't do this Exactly. Yeah, because I mean Houston or twice, and we're like this is gonna kill me. I can't exactly. Yeah, because I mean houston in a car is dangerous, houston on two wheels no, no, you don't.
Speaker 2:You don't even exist, particularly now that everybody's on their phone. Yeah, I mean you cannot be riding a motorcycle on houston highways. Yeah, it is time, man, it is so dangerous. I mean you got right laners, left laners, you got. You got idiots weaving in and out. You got idiots on the phone. You got road rage with gunplay. I mean the dumbest thing you can do is have one of those bikes. I feel bad. I said Kev. I said anytime I see a motorcycle, you know, screeching past me on a highway, I say a little prayer for him. That's somebody that ain't going to be around.
Speaker 3:No, not long. No, no, I mean because you think you're invincible on a motorcycle. Didn't you ever get that feeling too? Yes, but you're very invincible. Oh my God, you're the most invincible person out there you have nothing blocking anything.
Speaker 2:I mean it's over. The good news is is you don't suffer a lot.
Speaker 3:No, very true. What was that? What was that? The gall quote the cemeteries are littered with the cemeteries are filled with indispensable men. Yeah, the gall could have easily said the cemeteries were filled with motorcycle riders.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:Buy it 200 miles an hour.
Speaker 2:Exactly, all right. What are yours besides the?
Speaker 3:motorcycle, so that would be one. Number two is something that I did when I was a sophomore in high school. We used to do these things with my four buddies, called night missions, and we would do them on the weekends, and this particular one nearly got us arrested. We tried to climb the water tower in our local town, oakville, and I got halfway up and the cops came and saw us, and so I had to slide my hands down the side of the ladder and uh, and jump over some barbed wire fence, run through some brush about the size of two football fields and then lay underneath a canopy of trees and leaves when they brought the helicopter out to look for us wow, yeah that.
Speaker 2:That reminds me. That reminds me of one of mine, kev is. Another stupid thing we did is there were these buildings that were all seven stories high and they were right next to each other and we were jumping from building to building oh, that's yeah interesting intelligent and yeah, you had, you had to have about, literally about at least a 22, 23 foot long jumper. You're dead.
Speaker 3:This wasn't dangerous, but didn't you repel down the four seasons, or one of the hotels in downtown Houston. Yes, yeah, yeah, that was cool, huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've done, I've done. Yeah, I, I was the go-to. Hey, he's an idiot, He'll do it.
Speaker 3:He's an adrenaline junkie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he'll do it like, get tuttle to do it, and then you know finally, uh, my life insurance policy wasn't covering it and unfortunately, my agent was a listener and he's like you can't do that, dude, yeah, so I just scale that back tim was next in line to do the snake river canyon jump.
Speaker 3:At 3 36 pm the countdown begins.
Speaker 4:Three, two, one. At liftoff, something goes terribly wrong.
Speaker 3:And then, you know, insurance kicked in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, caesars Palace called and said hey, new Year's is coming.
Speaker 3:My third most dangerous thing you were actually a part of that would be the dolphin ride at Moody Gardens.
Speaker 2:One of the greatest stories ever. Kevin Kline and I we just moved to Houston. It's April of 2005. Before we even go on the air May 1st of 2005, we're doing the tour of all these very valued clients that the radio station had, including moody gardens. We had a wonderful partnership with moody gardens and so they're showing us some of the exhibits or whatever, and they take us to this little I don't know, it's like the 3D screen and a little bit of a moving chair dolphin ride and Kevin and I get on that with look like two young teenage guys, maybe 13, 14 years old. It's just the four of us. And within about 30 seconds of being on the ride, grown-ass Kevin Klein starts screaming Stop this, stop it, stop it, stop it. And at first everybody's looking and thought he's kidding, he's a radio guy, he's like a jokey joke guy. And then he continued with it. Kevin Klein flipped out on a ride that five-year-olds think are hilarious.
Speaker 3:Okay. So here's three things that were working against me. Okay, I don't like water In this film. You're basically supposed to be underwater, you're? It mimics the movement of a dolphin, all right. And so you're up above the water, you're down below the water. I don't like water, so I freaked me out there at the time. I had a up above the water, you're down below the water, I don't like water. So I freaked me out there At the time. I had a fear of the dark. It's completely dark in there. So that moved. That freaked me out. And then I motion sensitivity and this thing was like you're jerked to the side, you're jerked up, you're jerked down. So yeah, on three different sensory perceptions, I was, I was fucked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember, you know, back at the back of the station, I mean the sales department was like what have we gotten ourselves into Exactly? I mean, what is going on here? I mean it caused an, because Moody Gardens was like really, so you're pitching us, the morning show is going to come down and participate, and you got this clown, this chicken shit clown.
Speaker 3:Well then, remember what happened at Berkeley Eye Center with me with LASIK surgery.
Speaker 2:The same like a week later.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I go into Berkeley Eye Center because they're one of our clients and they want me to have LASIK eye surgery. I was so freaked out, my blood pressure was so high. They gave me a Valium and that still didn't calm me down. I couldn't have it done, couldn't have the procedure done, and he flipped out and walked away and there's another sales rep and another client going.
Speaker 2:who's the new guys here? What's going on here?
Speaker 4:Are we going to be able to do business. News guys here, what's going on here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, are we gonna be able to do business? I mean, what's going on here? That guy's a freak yeah, yeah, that was so funny, man, that was so, so I I basically was telling all the sales people, um, don't volunteer him for a fucking thing. Nothing, he pretty much proved it I will do all of the shit. Do not involve kevin klein, do not? Yeah, I mean, you know, we got two strikes and we haven't even done a show on the air yet we'll make up for it.
Speaker 3:Then damn it, yeah it'll be awesome.
Speaker 2:Took a little while.
Speaker 3:A little bit, but hey, we made it Kev.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love this. To me, it was really something I look forward to on this podcast is the Tuttle and Cline rabbit hole of the week. What grabbed your attention and sucked off your hours last week?
Speaker 3:Road rage incidents a compilation of road rage incidents. What's really weird about it is, if you watch the road rage incidents, the people who are the ones doing the road rage and getting so pissed off are the two biggest the pansies. They're the weakest people in the altercation. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It would be like okay if Tim and I had a road rage incident. I would be the one I'd be the bitch getting out of my car and taking a golf club to his window. He ain't going to do that to me. You know, I don't understand how the weaker person is the aggressor. You've noticed that?
Speaker 2:huh, I did notice that yes, and then the other guy gets out of the vehicle, towers over him and it ends very quickly. Yeah, you can't do road rage in the state of Texas. You just can't.
Speaker 3:I mean you shouldn't do it anywhere, but particularly in the state of Texas. Yes, I mean, you've got the, you got the concealed carry and for the most part, I mean if you go countryside you see the shotgun hanging on the back of the window.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know, kev, I got an LTC license to carry, which you really don't even need to have in Texas anymore. I mean it's constitutional carry now. But you know, as a a trained, uh, firearms guy with a license, I mean that's one of the first things they tell you. They're like you cannot be doing stupid things. You should know better. I mean you getting into an altercation and you're armed and the state of texas knows you're armed and is licensed you're harming. You have got to have the coolest of cool heads yeah so, yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's uh and that's. You know, that's what? Uh, miguel yanez, the navy seal, that my best buddy, um, who did all the training with me, that's the first thing he taught me. Is we, our goal in life is to never, ever use a firearm ever.
Speaker 3:So let me ask you this uh, with an ltc license to carry, and they tell you you have to be ultimate cool head, okay, is that to protect you from using it, or is that to protect you from getting into a physical altercation and the other person gaining access to your weapon?
Speaker 2:no, that that's too um. You the? The mind frame is is you got yourself in that position, put yourself in that position and you know you're armed. You know I'm saying yeah, you know you're armed, you have, you know you have an advantage and everything like that. You're the last person by us licensing you. You're the last person that should be escalating or starting anything. You know what I'm saying Got you, you're the back off guy. You know, the only time you ever pull a weapon out is if you feel that your life or the life of innocent people are being threatened. Correct and even then, make freaking sure you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Make sure, because it's irreversible Once it's drawn. I mean somebody that's licensed, like me and anybody that licensed and has been trained is, I've pulled it out. I, in my mind now, am prepared to kill somebody.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You pull it out with the intent to use it.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's out. You know you always say, hey, drop your weapon, drop your weapon. You always warn them, but that's usually immediately followed by, you know, three bursts to the midsection.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's what I was talking about. The other day I made a post on my Facebook page. One of the places where I run it goes right by the police department shooting range and they're out there all the time and I stopped and watched them one day and it just struck me that they're practicing for something they hope they never have to do. Yeah, exactly, but if they have to do it, something else is probably coming their way. Yeah, that it just it it. To me it defies logic that somebody would actually want to get in that situation but they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, miguel. I mean, his main thing was training is don't use it, Don't do it. Be a good witness. You know, you know, notice some things, try to get out. I mean you. There's all kinds of ways to get yourself out of the situation you're in. There's like a mass shooting. You can get the, you can find an exit or something like that. Heck, you can even rip drywall off to get to another room. You know what I'm saying? You can kick drywall in, and he taught us that. You can get up in the ceilings If you have time, avoid it at all costs, but if you absolutely positively have to, you pull it out. You kill them. It's messy. If you don't, it is.
Speaker 3:Oh sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know. So that's yeah, that's how you're trained and that's how your mind frame is, and I just think every adult, capable adult, should at least be trained in that stuff, you know?
Speaker 3:Okay, at least have the knowledge of it stuff you know, at least have the knowledge of it. Yeah, I'm. I firmly demonstrated at Paris Island. Uh, us Marine Recruit Depot, I am not qualified.
Speaker 2:Kevin will be a good witness.
Speaker 3:I will be a really good witness.
Speaker 2:No, there's a reason. Kevin Klein runs uh 90 miles a week.
Speaker 4:Are you doing this for world peace? Are you doing this for the homeless?
Speaker 3:Are you running for women's rights, or for the environment, or for animals?
Speaker 4:They just couldn't believe that somebody would do all that running for no particular reason.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, fight or flight. Give me that flight buddy Quickest way out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that whole incident was three states ago. I just kept running and running, and running just just wanted to make sure I was clear. Uh-huh, uh, that's, that's good. That's a cool rabbit hole man, that's I love what was yours I got into um big heists.
Speaker 2:I was watching videos on heists. Really Really they have videos on that. Yeah, like bank robberies and jewel heists and art heists. You know some of the biggest in the world where people clear. You know 20, 15, 10, $8 million and like a lot of them are unsolved too. A lot of them they got away with.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, the Andy Warhol, the Campbell's Soup Cans, his original painting, is still gone, still gone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, still gone. There's a bunch of. There's some Monet's that are still gone. Wow, yeah, there was a big. There was a big one in France where they got away with so much and none of it's been recovered.
Speaker 4:The theft is massive 13 pieces of artwork valued today at about $500 million.
Speaker 3:When you're watching this, do they tell about how the theft occurred? Because it's got to be inside jobs, right, most of it is inside jobs?
Speaker 2:Yeah, most of it is. You know the security guard's like fuck man, I'm making $7.50 an hour. You know, I know how this operation runs. I know where the cameras are. I know what time the secure overnight security takes their lunch break. You know, I know, uh. You know where the uh, where the the uh camera recording, uh, you know where they go to and which hard drives the grab. I know all of it and I you know there's this really, really hot girl and she was talking about it'd be nice if we could do a trip, maybe to to Brazil. You know Brazil, or something like that. You know, you know. And the next thing, you know, $2.7 million was stolen from the downtown Los Angeles. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying I know, yeah, but what makes me wonder now, because we're in a era of small technology, why don't they just put small, insert small trackers on the most valuable pieces?
Speaker 2:That's a great question.
Speaker 3:I mean, is that just too simple?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's so nano, now it's so small. It's a hair fiber yeah, it would take the thieves forever to remove it. It would take them forever. It's microscopic, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, how would the thieves even know which pieces have it and which don't?
Speaker 2:Yeah, even on putting up signs or letting it be known hey, every single piece in here, microscopic tracker, you'll you'll never find it. Or if you do find it, you'll have to ruin the painting, and you know, in order to get rid of it. I mean, just let, just warning you, just let you know you wouldn't even have to put them on there all right. Yeah, you just have the sign uh-huh, which a lot of people do for their home, this home protected.
Speaker 3:Just warning you, just letting you know you wouldn't even have to put them on there. Ah right, yeah, you just have the sign Uh-huh, which a lot of people do for their home.
Speaker 2:This home protected by. Yeah, exactly, got nothing Exactly. But, kevin, the thing I noticed is you know the ones that have been solved. It's always one guy in the group that does something stupid. Oh, you know, the other three or four or five of them lock tight, doesn't do anything wrong, taken care of. But he goes and wants to purchase some real estate and pulls out bundles of cash with the labels on it showing where it was and everything like that. Some real estate guy goes boy, that was in the news two years ago, big time. I heard there's a $250,000 reward. They still want these guys. I'm going to go take this to the FBI, you know, instead of wandering the money like everybody else in the group did. You know?
Speaker 4:we bought bought real.
Speaker 2:We bought real estate. We did. You know. We started our own businesses. You know I was an electrician but I never did any jobs, but I did a quarter a million a year the past three or four years. You know I'm saying I'm following you. Yeah, absolutely, everybody else is just one idiot, you know. Uh-huh, one guy decides, hey, uh, you know, my real job that everybody knows about is I'm a janitor making $18,500 a year and I'm going to buy my girlfriend a brand new Cadillac. It'll be fine.
Speaker 3:It'll be fine.
Speaker 2:Of course I want to gambling. Oh really, where were you gambling? Well, I was at Harrah's. Oh, what days were you at harrah's? Oh we, we just checked the video surveillance you were never there never there one guy, cav, uh, screws it up for every single person. Yeah, kev, you, uh, you sent me a message and I have massive questions About that. You went to your godson's preschool graduation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what we did on Thursday last week.
Speaker 2:First question is how in the hell are you a godfather?
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Do you know what that entails? Or, or better, question the person that made you the godfather do they know what that entails? Yeah, just tell me, tell me. I just, I just want to make sure it was my brother-in-law.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm actually, uh, godfather, I'm a three-time godfather, okay, so to my oldest nephew, louis, and then to Will, and then to my niece Olivia, and so what that means in the Catholic religion is that if something were to happen to the parents of the child, I then become the caretaker, I then become the parent, exactly.
Speaker 2:And the people who made you this. They did that by choice.
Speaker 3:They know this. Yeah, what the fuck are they thinking? Path of least resistance yeah, you know he'll say yes. Well, what are you thinking, saying yes, I'm thinking you know he'll say yes. Well, what are you thinking, saying yes, I'm thinking, you know, I can't really say no because I'm related to these folks and I'm just really going to pray hard that nothing happens before they're 18.
Speaker 2:So in an effort to make sure Thanksgiving is never awkward.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:Klein says yes to something that could literally have him for what? 10, 15 years against the ropes. Yep, oh my gosh. I wish ill on nobody, but I would absolutely love to see you have to be a father overnight.
Speaker 3:Dude, I don't know how parents do it. I don't know how teachers do it. I don't know how teachers do it. Uh, preschool teachers, holy crap. I just don't have the energy. I don't have the energy for a kid, I don't. It's non-stop.
Speaker 2:They give you energy, though no, they really.
Speaker 3:I don't see how really you.
Speaker 2:You know you're just I like, like, like I got my boys, yeah, yeah, and again and again. I don't, I have them only part time, but I can't wait to wake up and do stuff. I kept like, all right, what are we going to do today? Like Kev, yesterday watch some Indy 500 coverage went out to the pool for four hours. It was having a great time out of the pool for four hours. We come back in. You know we're showering and hey, let's go play basketball. You know we're gonna play that. I play basketball with them. I mean it's awesome. And they're like, hey, what are we gonna do today, dad? Well, today we're gonna play football.
Speaker 2:They're tied right now two to two in a football game the championship yeah and we're gonna go play football before I go drop them off at mom's, so we got to finish that up. I love it, I look forward to it. I mean it's.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we're at my godson's preschool graduation, which I never had a preschool or a kindergarten graduation. I don't know where this trend came from.
Speaker 2:Kev, that is the dumbest fucking thing ever.
Speaker 3:Oh, thank you, I'm glad you agree.
Speaker 2:You've done nothing. Oh, we got done. Finger painting, yep. Yay Best glue. Finger painting, yep.
Speaker 3:Yay, best glue sniffer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, best glue sniffer. I went the entire year without pulling any girls' pigtails.
Speaker 3:Here's the thing, though, tim these parents of the girls are showing up with flower bouquets to give them after they walk across the stage. It is so that's bad man. That's what I thought too. I so, and they listen to this, and I don't say this because they listen to it. My brother and sister-in-law were the only parents that did not get out of their seats and go into the middle aisle and start pushing people aside so they could get the best picture. They were just there because they had to be there. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, dude, it's now and now I know why kids feel like they're entitled because it's five years old.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, five years old. Well, I really didn't do much. You know, I played a little hopscotch and uh, I can drink, uh, out of this little juice box here and suddenly they're making a big shit deal out of everything. Yeah, exactly stupid. I, I get high school, I get college.
Speaker 3:Anything else is just ridiculous overkill and they did the whole cap and gown thing with popping circumstance. And is that an?
Speaker 2:industry. Is that like? Is that? Is that because it's like there's a good lobby in the celebration and party industry?
Speaker 3:I don't know. I mean I don't think that's a huge industry at that age. I just think that I mean they're just trying to make these kids more important than they actually are.
Speaker 2:See, because we watched when we were kids, we were growing up. You know, greeting card industry got powerful with this valentine's and you know, and then, oh yeah, you got, you got to make sure that you're. You know getting a card and getting, uh, you know, candy, and they got together with the candy and chocolate industry. You know johnny hershey's comes rolling in there and going yeah, man, we got to make valentine's a big fucking deal. Oh, hold on a second, I got to go over to the easter convention. I'll be right back right yeah, yeah, yep right.
Speaker 2:And then there's all this pressure because everybody's doing it. It's like the whole um asking people to prom and homecoming, that those the asking the girl cost more than our actual homecoming and proms we had when we were kids.
Speaker 3:Oh, the game that you have to have to ask these days, the creativity you have to have.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like he skydives in being chased by a gunman. You know they're firing blanks, though 're firing blanks and you know, saves her life. And then, just as it all comes to an end, hey, you want to go to homecoming? I mean, let me, let me, if you're asking somebody to homecoming or prom involves a director and a a a photographer, and smack you, executive producers, if it's got a key grip, you went a little deep and then you're setting up the expectation for a marriage proposal that just is probably going to fail in comparison to that.
Speaker 3:Don't set the bar so high for other guys, dude.
Speaker 2:I want to back this off a little bit, if I could get, okay. I just think that I discovered a uh, a business opportunity. Tuttle's prom and homecoming proposal consultation group incorporated, am I right?
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know it's like. It's like you know. Hey dude, you're 16 years old. You're not that good looking. You know you're trying to get the homecoming queen from last year who's also the head cheerleader. You're going to need some game. All right, what's your budget? I can get you to. I can get you a yes for 7 500. Otherwise I'll drop 20 off of it they have wedding consultants, why not?
Speaker 2:I. I mean you have the way this has escalated over the years. I mean it's about time somebody just said yeah, that's what I do, I, only I, I. I only work in september and october homecoming season, and then I only work in September and October homecoming season, and then I only work in March and April prom season. And I make 7.4 million a year, am I right?
Speaker 3:You're absolutely right. Now, what if it doesn't take $7,500 to pull off the proposal? I mean, do you give. Is it based on the uh enormity of the project, or is it just a flat fee?
Speaker 2:yeah, we have a catalog. You know, okay, we got the gold tier, where we'll have car chases and you know, skydiving and you know kevin hart will show up. I got the gold tier and you know, if that's a little out of your price range, I mean we can do something nice. Like you know, make sure the announcer at the Astros game in between innings.
Speaker 3:Oh, Bob Ford's going to do the announcing Nice.
Speaker 2:Does something in between innings and he'll also record something for you, you know, and everything like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, Different packages, packages different levels, did I just?
Speaker 2:start a new business right there, or what? You need to llc that one right away, bro or is it another one of my where I've done this so often and then somebody else will make millions of dollars off of my idea later? Oh, absolutely yeah, it's happened before eventually, I'll follow up on that Cav. Eventually I'll follow up. There you go. I love it. Yeah, the preschool graduation anyway. That's ridiculous, it's over the top, you don't? I mean, you're the godfather three times, right, correct? Do you have to go to multiple kids' graduations?
Speaker 3:No, louie has already graduated high school.
Speaker 2:he's about ready to graduate college, uh oh, no shit oh, yeah, yeah yeah, hold on, so you've been a godfather for a while, yeah, 20, 22 years now. Oh, okay, I thought this was a new phenomenon no, he still kisses the ring too every time.
Speaker 3:Every time I see him. That's funny, that is funny, uh. And then olivia graduates high school next year, so we'll probably go to that and then will just graduate to preschool that's funny.
Speaker 2:So you're in a long cycle of it oh yeah yeah, that's like. Well, I was just thinking about you know, I'm me like my fatherhood. You know Audrey 2001. Yeah, timmy graduates 2034. 33 years of dadhood yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, a lifetime of dadhood, but you know.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what I'm saying? 33, yeah, yeah, for sure, Of a minor child, Right of a minor child yeah, being on the hook for them.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, for sure Of a of a minor child right Of a minor child, yeah, being being on the hook for them.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. 33 years, yeah, Isn't that crazy? Yeah, yeah. And and I can remember one of the last things my dad told me before he passed Tim, you're not like, you don't have the makeup to be married and you don't have to do what I did. And you know, let one go too often, too many things.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. Yeah, cause I don't know if anybody knows this, but your dad had how many kids? 14. 14 kids, yep. How didred have time to go to work?
Speaker 2:well, I can't have that yeah, that, yeah, I mean, it was just, it was never ending yeah, he's constantly in the sack I've, I've got half siblings that are old enough to be my mother and father. Uh-huh, you know, and uh yeah, and that brings me to you know, um, something I wanted to talk to you about there was there was a documentary about generational wealth okay, uh explain that for those who don't understand well, yeah, you know, along the lines, a generation or some generations build up enough of a nest egg and enough money that that family's entire tree line is taken care of forever, doesn't have to do anything.
Speaker 2:Right, they're covered. And you know, I, kevin, I'm 14th generation american and I I come from a very smart and, you know, very productive bloodline and I can remember, I can remember asking my dad. I'm like, hey, hey, dad, I'm, I'm like 14 generation American. You're a lawyer. I mean where's all our cake, dude? Where's, where's all the money? You know. And it dawned on me 14 kids, two wives, you know I mean my dad. My dad was making some great cheese all of my life, but before it, even it was gone.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm thinking to myself. Look at me. I mean I'd imagine Audrey Jonas, dallas and Timmy hey dad, you made a shit ton of money. Audrey Jonas, dallas and Timmy hey Dad, you made a shit ton of money.
Speaker 3:There's popular radio host Big City.
Speaker 2:I did what Fred did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was your hero.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, but I didn't have to emulate everything. I could have broke the cycle.
Speaker 3:You got for sure am I right?
Speaker 2:yeah yeah so, yeah, I, I saw that. I'm just laughing because you know, and that's another thing that they were talking about with the generational wealth thing is, once you get two generations away from the productive, uh, aspect of that family tree, then they get all crazy and nutty and either blow it or, if there's just so much money, they start doing insane, evil shit oh really yeah, like, like, if somebody doesn't have to make their own cake, you're just setting them up just to be an evil fuck.
Speaker 3:Well, okay. So then do you agree somewhat or fully agree with what Shaquille O'Neal does with his kids and Shaq says you ain't getting any of my money until you graduate college and until you've worked in a job. Then we can talk. Or do you agree with Elon Musk, who says none of my kids are getting anything from me.
Speaker 2:I absolutely somewhere in the middle. Okay, my thoughts and feelings are it is bad, actually bad parenting to take the kids off of a trajectory where they would have their own lives Okay, when would they have their own accomplishments. I think that's being a bad parent. I think. I think parents that completely spoil the kids trust funds and all that stuff. You're fucking your kid over.
Speaker 2:Okay, You're robbing them of their life, of their opportunity to have a life, by giving them that comfort basically, you're robbing them of becoming their own person yeah, and not only that, you're not doing society a favor because chances are and it doesn't happen every time, but the dramatic majority of the time you're making an evil human being okay an apathetic human being, sociopath, narcissist, all that shit well, is that person, the, the, the offspring?
Speaker 3:are they even equipped to handle that amount of money?
Speaker 2:that's another question you know that's another question. So I kev my. My thought and feeling has always been I will be an investor in your vision. Okay, like if my kids came to me with a solid business plan and they showed me they had the work ethic, I have no problems investing in their business, but just handing money and giving freebie Kev. I even felt bad for a while that you know Audrey and Jonas when they turned 16, I bought them cars.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know and you know, and I always thought to myself, one of the most prideful things that I did when I was a teenager was purchase my own vehicle. It was a piece of shit, but it was mine, right. Yeah, you worked for it. Yes, I earned it. I mean, it was $784 and a catcher's mitt.
Speaker 3:And a catcher's mitt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because the guy I was short, the guy wanted like 854 or something like that. I said this is all I have. He said, but I remember telling him I said no well, next year I'm moving to shortstop, I got a catcher's mitt and I know you're going to catch next year. That's what Coach already said it.
Speaker 3:And he goes. Okay, parlayed that old catcher's mitt into a car, Nicely done.
Speaker 2:Exactly, but I had that pride. I mean it was garbage, you could, it was. It was a piece of shit, chevette, orange, and I know you, you're, you're, you're from my era, so you remember those orange Chevettes.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, I remember it.
Speaker 2:And you know, since it's, it's a Indiana. You know that because of the salt trucks that you know, the floorboards disappeared in these vehicles. Yeah, they rust, so I could see the ground passing by as I was driving it. Nice, but damn it, it was mine and it was freedom Absolutely. Oh yeah, no, I get it For sure.
Speaker 2:I've often felt I've even talked to Jonas about it. Man, I was like, did I steal that from you? Jonas is like no, it was really cool. Thanks, man. Sorry, I wrecked it. I really do feel that way that you're robbing them of their life. You know, everybody should have the same opportunity to make something of themselves, to do something special, to do something that they have pride in. And if you're just a trust fund baby, you don't.
Speaker 2:You don't have that you know, and I think that that they, they, they, they completely wasted their life.
Speaker 3:Yep, yeah, I like we said not equipped, they're not equipped. I look at like somebody like Gracie Hunt, who is the daughter of clark hunt, who owns the kansas city chiefs. Okay, she's a polarizing figure because people call her a trust fund baby and all this kind of stuff, but she graduated college, she was miss kansas, usa, and her goal in life is to become the female commissioner of the NFL. I think that she is that example that you know. She's made something of herself on her own, but she's also got that generational well that she'll be responsible for one day.
Speaker 2:Kevin, and that goes into, I guess. Another big buzzword that we're hearing a lot of is Nepo baby.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Hear it all the time.
Speaker 2:You know I get what you're talking. I mean, like Sofia Coppola should never have been an actress in Godfather 3. It was terrible.
Speaker 4:Mary, you're such a warm-hearted girl you always were. I love my family.
Speaker 1:Even your cousin Vincent. I really love him he's your first cousin then I love him first.
Speaker 2:I mean that was bad, but on the other hand, you know Jamie Lee Curtis, the daughter of Tony Curtis and Jennifer Jason or Janet Lee, what did?
Speaker 3:I say Jennifer Jason, which would be a really really May, december. Yeah, did you know? Jennifer Jason, janet lee. What did I say, jennifer jason, which would be a really really, uh, may december.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, did you know? Jennifer jason lee is the daughter of vic morrow? No, way. Yeah, well, the guy that lost his head yeah, lost his, lost his head in twilight zone in this scene right here. Ouch, uh, yeah. If I can't even tell you how many times I slow-mo that, and let me tell you this right now don't slow-mo it too much, don't slow-mo. But yeah, she sued john landis too, the director of that film, oh wow, and got a settlement.
Speaker 2:She sued john landis, uh and uh, they killed her dad yeah yeah, now, of course her and her dad were a little estranged at the time.
Speaker 3:Yep, but when he gets decapitated, hey, there's money. I loved him.
Speaker 2:Dad's like you really had to go naked in Fast Times at Regimont High. I'm Vic Morrow. I can't have my buddy saying I want to fuck your dog. I can't do that. You know he was mad about that. Wasn't he the coach in Bad News Bears? Coach in Bad News Bears that slapped his kid on the mound? Yeah Boy, that was close to my head Time Time. What's this B-Bone?
Speaker 4:You tried to hit him, didn't you?
Speaker 5:No, I just got away, don't run me.
Speaker 3:He always played kind of a heavy.
Speaker 2:Oh, he was great at it though, man, I mean, but that's the rumor, is you know, he was harsh and hardcore, but the nicest guy, I mean literally would talk to anybody Cool.
Speaker 4:Behind the scenes, behind the scenes.
Speaker 2:You know he was good, he's gruff, he would get into character and he could play the gruff person. But he had a kind heart, particularly for kids. He liked kids when he did that role, because I went down a rabbit hole on Vic Morrow when he did the role Bad News Bears, where he punched the kid, his son, on the mound For a couple years after that, a few years after that, that, he would be walking and kids would avoid him because they're afraid of him. Oh wow, you know they, they knew it and he would like get get down and you know, get down to their level and talk to him and stuff like be a nice guy and everything like that. Hey, I was just playing a role. I'm not that guy.
Speaker 3:I got kids like you, and you know what I'm saying oh yeah, no, exactly what you're saying, yeah because, kids don't know the difference between movie and in in real life at that, at that time hell, no, yeah, hell, no.
Speaker 2:it's a cabin, even up in your 20s, because you remember when? Do you remember when they uh opened the hard rock cafe in Nashville, when we were doing radio in Nashville? Yes, and I went. I went down there the opening night and I walked past Sylvester Stallone. I was like how are you the heavyweight champion? I'm knock you fucking out right here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's so little. Oh my God, no, not tall, not not at all.
Speaker 2:I couldn't believe how small he was man it's crazy how small most actors are yeah, oh, and I had, uh, I had somebody asking me that you know, because you and I have been in a position, um, where we've met a lot of celebrities. Yes, we have and they're like you know well who's bigger than you thought, or big, or would we be surprised who's big, who is tiny and everything like that. Craig Robinson, you remember him from the Office.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's the Pizza Hut guy now.
Speaker 2:Pizza Hut guy. Now, he's a big dude. Yes, he is. I was surprised at how big he was. I mean, he's maybe an inch, with the Afro even a couple inches taller than me. I'm 6'2". I'd have him about 6'4". He's a big guy. Yeah, I was surprised at how big Craig Robinson is, but he's a teddy bear, nicest guy ever, super cool, you know, and others who was big and who was not. I was very shocked at how tiny Kenny Chesney was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kenny Chesney, not not tall, not at all.
Speaker 2:Shocked I was. He didn't even want to stand next to me. He didn't even want to stand next to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cause, then it'll. It'll show the difference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did not want a picture, did not want anything. I remember that when he he came to the studio, um, but who else kev surprised by their height or their size?
Speaker 3:uh, I don't know if I was so surprised that rob schneider was was not oh, and chris katan oh, katan yeah tiny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these are. I was shocked at how small they were, yep, and how small were up. I don't know if you remember this Kev. We were in Birmingham at the time and our sister station actually had him on doing some kind of promotion, but I walked past Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Yeah, for sure, very small.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, I was like damn. I thought Dale, dale was bigger than that.
Speaker 3:I don't think he was as small as Tony Kanaan, though, tony.
Speaker 2:Kanaan was tiny. Holy shit dude. Erica looked down on Tony Kanaan, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean it makes sense, though I mean cause you're an auto racer in an Indy car, you can't. I mean Ryan Hunter ray is just completely the opposite. Hunter ray's over six feet tall. Oh, yeah still fits in that thing michael waltrip.
Speaker 2:I met him. He's as big as I am yeah, very true, walt giant hand too he was. I remember he had a giant hand. You know him and I had like huge. We were doing the giant handshake with each other. I was like you know, when two guys are, you know big guys about the same size of giant hands, they come, come in for a shake. They kind of have that upward nod going. Yeah, buddy.
Speaker 3:But yeah, for the most part. For the most part, my uncle's tall. Yeah, kevin Kline is tall. Yeah, my uncle's tall.
Speaker 2:Vince Vaughn huge. Oh, he's a monster. Dude, Vince, were you shocked at how big Vince Vaughn was? Yes, yeah, I mean is that 6'6".
Speaker 3:I thought he was 6'5". 6'5", yeah, might be 6'6", monster Big.
Speaker 2:Blake Shelton Big, big. I was shocked at how big Blake Shelton was. Tall guy. He's bigger than I am. He's 6'4", 6'5" At least Blake Shelton is yeah, uh, trace Adkins huge oh, trace Adkins is one of those guys. If you hit him, you got to kill him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because he won't stop yeah, no, and his voice too. His voice is going to keep going. That's just going to scare the shit out of you yeah, he was big.
Speaker 2:Who else big, small, who's? Who's shocked um Jane seymour, very tiny okay yeah, was akroyd bigger than you thought he was? I the akroyd was taller than I thought he would be very much.
Speaker 3:So yeah, he was. He's about my height too. Yes, he is. Yeah, yeah, I got. Here's a picture of dan akroyd in studio with us. That was great. That was a great day, man man.
Speaker 2:Was that awesome or what I mean? There were just times where kevin and I were we're looking at each other across the board going is this really happening? And Dan Aykroyd being in studio, because I've always idolized him, him and Bill Murray to me, some of the early Saturday Night Live guys and basically I even told Dan and I don't know if you knew this or not there would be no Saturday Night Live without Dan Aykroyd. True, because he was not only a huge star of that first cast, he did a ton of the writing While the rest of them were doing cocaine on the streets in Manhattan. You know, dan was writing.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, dan did his fair share of cocaine too, but he would parlay it into writing. But yeah, ackroyd was a big guy too, man yeah, ackroyd was great.
Speaker 3:Uh, keith urban is a good size. He's not uh, he's not diminutive, that's for sure no, keith I.
Speaker 2:I thought tim mcgraw would be taller yeah, very true yeah oh, here's one. Gav, I did you guard brooks is about my size garth brooks is a big guy I did not know that. Did you know that?
Speaker 3:I knew he was an athlete, uh and uh I can't remember if it was a javelin throw that he did in college, I think, yeah, yeah, so I mean I know he's an athlete, but when I look at him physically I always thought you know, jolly, you know you could tell that he enjoyed the biscuits and gravy.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I know what you're saying, yeah.
Speaker 2:But then you get up next to him and it's like, wow, man, you're big dude, You're bigger than I thought you were.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, he's solid. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, miranda Lambert, miranda, jeff, when we met in Las Vegas Hulk Hogan. I thought he would be much bigger. He's not 6'9" like they listed him.
Speaker 3:No, there's no way. He's 6'9".
Speaker 2:He is not. I mean, he's maybe an inch or two taller than me, but he ain't 6' and you remember that's how they listed him WWF when we were kids. Totally 6'9", 325, rock-solid muscle, hulk Hogan Bullshit.
Speaker 3:Nah, there was no 6'9 there, uh-uh.
Speaker 2:Nah, but Andre the Giant, on the other hand, it was every bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, did you ever see him up close? I never met Andre.
Speaker 2:I was probably about 50 yards away from him, really, and you can tell just by in comparison of the people walking around him that that was a very large mammal.
Speaker 3:You ever read stories about his drinking proficiency?
Speaker 4:Brother. I was with him one night when he drank 106 beers 106? Yeah, that's Andre the Giant brother.
Speaker 2:I remember Kev here he is. He's an international star. Everybody knows him Making really good money as a top flight wrestler WWF at its heyday and I just remember looking at him and I felt sorry for him. I was like where can he go?
Speaker 3:You're right, he was trapped in himself.
Speaker 2:I remember it's just so weird, the snapshot of him. It was at Market Square Arena when I was a teenager and I just have the snapshot in my head of just everybody just looking up at him Everywhere he went, everywhere he walked, yeah, I mean, it didn't even matter who else was in the crowd, who else was on the bill or anything like that Andre the Giant, everybody, every single buddy in the room, because it was just such and I was like man that that's got to get old, you would think oh, I was like I don't know how taylor swift does it.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, taylor swift. Yeah, oh, that's just that can't be. That can't be a life. It just can't be.
Speaker 2:Kev, you remember? We've talked to two people who were some of the most famous people on planet Earth at one time. We talked, do you remember? We talked to Henry Winkler, who was the Fonz.
Speaker 3:Love him.
Speaker 2:He was awesome. Was he awesome to talk to or what he's?
Speaker 3:one of my all-time favorite interviews.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's great. But when he was the the Fonz late 70s he couldn't go anywhere. Oh, he couldn't do anything character he could not.
Speaker 2:I mean, he, he was that famous, you know, this is when there was only three channels and happy days was the biggest show on tv and the guy couldn't go anywhere, okay, and I could just imagine. I mean he literally couldn't leave his, his apartment, his house, his hotel or whatever, can't leave because it just causes a massive uproar. Luke perry was another one 90210. Do you remember in the early 90s? I mean how famous that dude.
Speaker 3:Oh, people were getting their hair cut like him.
Speaker 2:The sideburns Kev I immediately cut the sideburns. I immediately cut the sideburns. As soon as I saw 90210, it was just after I graduated college I was like, oh yeah, that's my look now. I immediately cut the sideburns.
Speaker 3:Did you ever do the sideburns like that?
Speaker 2:No, uh-uh, no, I mean I couldn't, I couldn't pull that, look off. No, you could not. No, but you know, these are, these are people who are in prison well, we talked to jessica simpson too yeah, not, not, I wouldn't say as much as those two. Okay, I mean, would you? I mean to to me people who couldn't go anywhere or do anything, you know, elvis the beatles, madonna madonna the fawns, luke perry, um, is that even I mean the rock, but I think the rock loves it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I, oh, I think the rock thrives off of it I.
Speaker 3:I think the rock specifically wants to go run errands, so he can be the rock the thing that we loved about henry winkler was you know, there's this, uh, this phrase in american lexicon called jump the shark, and I mean it's become vernacular in america and it's all based on when his character, arthur Fonzarelli in Happy Days, actually was on water skis and he jumpedaces it, yeah. Yeah, he's not like ashamed of it, he doesn't shy away from it, he's like, yeah, it's pretty cool that you know the a moment that we did is still living on well not only that, but he pointed out how it's a misnomer too, how it's pretty cool that you know a moment that we did is still living on.
Speaker 2:Well, not only that, but he pointed out how it's a misnomer too, how it's BS, because they still had, you know, another season and a half of top ratings. True, it was like the time we hung out with Costner, by the way, who was taller than I thought he would be, kevin Costner Remember we hung out with him yeah, picture right here at at oh, yeah, yeah, at his hotel, and then we talked to him another time to love Kevin Costner. But you know, we we brought up that. It just seemed like the critics were trying to knock you down when you did water world and I always thought that was a pretty good movie. I liked water world.
Speaker 3:I saw it in the theater, loved it.
Speaker 2:And he even said that it's not the box office bomb that people think it is. We made money off of Waterworld. So yeah, sometimes it's just hype, it's just bullshit.
Speaker 3:Costner was so candid. I mean, you want an honest answer from an actor. Talk to Kevin Costner.
Speaker 2:He was great, was he not awesome, dude? He was amazing. I amazing. I mean, he answered everything, everything, everything that we asked him. You know, I was even asking stuff. Probably I shouldn't have asked just to see if he would answer it. He'd be like no problem answering it, yeah no problem at all he was great man. Crash davis and jfk whitney houston.
Speaker 5:He loved whitney houston from the bodyguard their their time there whitney, if you could hear me now, I would tell you you weren't just good enough. You were great. You sang the whole damn song without a band. You made the picture what it was. A lot of leading men could have played my part. A lot of guys, a lot of guys could, could have played my part. A lot of guys, a lot of guys could have filled that role, but you, whitney, I truly believe that you were the only one that could have played Rachel Marin at that time.
Speaker 2:Said national treasure called her a national treasure national treasure, and I'll sometimes call people a national treasure just because Kevin Koster put that in my head. I'm a little looser with it. You know, like, like I. I commented on uh, uh, a face or, excuse me, an instagram post of frank caliendo's. He did like a string of uh, celebrity imitations, uh-huh I go, caliendo national treasure uh, which nation canadian? No, no, no, no no. Caliendo is milwaukee dude is he really?
Speaker 3:yeah, I always thought caliendo was from canada don't you remember when he was in studio?
Speaker 2:I was like dude, you're milwaukee too and he goes. You were milwaukee and I said yeah, he goes, motherfucking rich boy. Oh.
Speaker 3:Milwaukee's just South Canada.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, true, true. Yeah, yeah, he went to UWM, uw, Milwaukee. Yeah, he's a Milwaukee guy, he's a Packer guy.
Speaker 3:Oh, very cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a great guy.
Speaker 3:He was nice, super nice guy, he actually gave you his phone number and said if you want to get in touch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, which I I can't call him.
Speaker 3:We only had two people that I can remember ever do that, and that was a Caliendo. Gave you his and Bert Kreischer.
Speaker 2:Kreischer, I got Kreischer's number. Yeah, yeah, I got Kreischer's number. I got Clemens's number too. Clemens gave me his number. He did Yep, Yep. He said you know. He said if one of your boys ever you know, show some velocity, bring them up to spring and I'll work with them, and so Timmy's about two years away. I'm telling you, man, he's the kid's piping it, man.
Speaker 2:I know I saw him at the kids got that white and he's got the. He's got the next year they start pitching. I don't know, I don't know if they let the nine-year-olds pitch. You know he'll be a nine-year-old next year, but by 10, he'll be firing it Cool. So yeah, that's going to be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3:That will be a blast.
Speaker 2:I can't wait. Hey Rocket Timmy's coming up. We're on 45 right now. Be there in 10 minutes. There you go. He's like you. Probably should let me know maybe a day or two ahead, instead of being on 45, getting ready to exit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Debbie's got to put the steroids away. She's still hooked on him. She's still hooked on him.
Speaker 2:That was Kevin Kline. Rocket. That was Kevin Kline. All right, this was a fun episode. I got to go be a dad. I got to go feed the boys.
Speaker 2:Boys some waffles and some sausage biscuits sounds good make sure you like, follow, download, subscribe, give us a rating. Let us continue to do this podcast. You are the life's blood. Also buy our merchandise. Uh, go to the title and klein facebook. And's an easy way to order right from there. Coming up this week, kevin Klein, I'm rolling into June. Man, I'm just rolling into June. Can you believe we're in June already? It's coming up on June. But, kev, tomorrow will be my first day in about three or four weeks lifting weights. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow.
Speaker 3:How's your shoulder feeling?
Speaker 2:A little bit better. I'm just going to go slow. Yeah, you're feeling a little bit better, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna go slow. I mean, yeah, cab, I was doing, I was doing uh, uh workouts that a guy my age shouldn't have been doing, and that's probably what it was. So I'm just gonna start off slow. And you know lighter weights and you know more reps and a little less sets, you know just to get myself worked into it.
Speaker 3:Just ease into it. You've got 11 more months before the combine.
Speaker 2:What do you have coming up this week, man?
Speaker 3:Uh, two things. Uh, you'll find out uh, this week. Uh, about the intervention with Kim Kardashian and her shopping. Uh, because I talked to Evan Jarshower. But, uh, this is one of my favorite weeks of the year, tim, and it's because snow drop actually gives out our college scholarships this week and we're giving out $290,000 to 113 applicants. It's the biggest we've ever done. That's awesome, thanks.
Speaker 2:I love it. What's the total that you've given away at Ballpark at this point? You know what is it 15, 16, 17 years, 18 years.
Speaker 3:Let's see June years, 18 years, uh, let's see June, uh 14th 2006. So you do the math. On that one You're quicker than I am 18 years. Okay, 18 years. Uh, we have given away a $6.55 million. Damn, yeah, yeah, damn big pimping in the.
Speaker 2:NYC yeah, damn big pimping in the NYC.
Speaker 3:And you'll finally, in September, get to see yourself on the big screen, because I don't think you've seen Delivering Hope yet. But it'll be on Amazon Prime in September and you can't wait. You're in it.
Speaker 2:Oh, and Kev, I'm also volunteering. If you want to, I'm going to. I'm going to play in your softball tournament, are you really? If you want me to, hell yeah, and just so you know you remember. Uh, you, you remember jim carrey and and cable guy yes I warm up, I get ready, I'm, I'm out. Yeah, it ain't a hit and giggle for me, man hold on.
Speaker 5:I gotta warm up. I don't want to pull a hemi I will.
Speaker 2:I come to fuck shit up, I come to go yard or go home.
Speaker 3:Well cool, I didn't know you were going to play.
Speaker 2:Well, if you want me to, if you've got a team for me, I know maybe you've got some full rosters, but if you've got a spot, no, I'll get you in touch with Jeff, the manager.
Speaker 3:We'd love to have you.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying out either.
Speaker 3:No, Tim, believe me, you don't have to try out for the snow job team.
Speaker 2:Wait a minute, hold on, does it suck?
Speaker 3:Actually we're getting better. We actually were one. We were two points away from and I say points because it's I know it's runs in softball, but they do it by a point system we were two points away from making the championship game last year.
Speaker 2:Okay, you don't mind if I reach out to the rocket and maybe biggio and see if we can stack that team a little bit dude, bring them, bring them.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, that would be awesome. Hell, just bring one of roger's kids it's like.
Speaker 2:it's like I could see me walking onto the field and everybody going oh god, he's here. Yeah, but I bought friends Later, man, I'm out.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all-new episode. Also, you can catch Tuttle on TV. He is a handsome man. And you can get more Cline on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends. And thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, alright, take the yo out.
