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Ep #13: Chasing Dreams and Dodging Social Media Pitfalls in the Modern Age

May 15, 2024 Tim Tuttle & Kevin Kline Episode 13
Ep #13: Chasing Dreams and Dodging Social Media Pitfalls in the Modern Age
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Ep #13: Chasing Dreams and Dodging Social Media Pitfalls in the Modern Age
May 15, 2024 Episode 13
Tim Tuttle & Kevin Kline

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When life hands you a microphone, it's best to start sharing stories and see where they take you. That's exactly what we've done in our latest episode, where conversations range from golfing with grumbling bankers to insightful dating escapades, and the real talk on podcasting dreams. We even swing by the concept of privilege, unpacking the ironies that surface when comparing the banker's world to the broader tapestry of life's grievances and moments of joy. And yes, we'll chuckle over the idea that a well-mowed lawn might just be one of life’s simpler pleasures.

Ever wondered what connects a football player's pregame rituals to the allure of natural wonders or the thrill of a perfect golf shot? This episode bridges these disparate worlds, drawing lines between athletic dedication, natural beauty, and the unpredictable charm of hitting the green. We'll share our top three awe-inspiring moments, from the Northern Lights' unexpected visit to Florida to the nostalgia of aluminum bats and Little League triumphs. Tune in as we relive these memories and consider how they shape our shared human experience.

Strap in as we navigate the more complex turns of life, addressing topics as heavy as online harassment and as light-hearted as the humor in a bad comedy set. We'll dissect the dance of freedom of speech in comedy, reflect on the unexpected consequences of social media missteps, and tease future projects that are simmering just below the surface. By the end of our time together, you'll have laughed, pondered, and maybe even shifted your perspective on the quieter, more profound connections that bind us all.

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When life hands you a microphone, it's best to start sharing stories and see where they take you. That's exactly what we've done in our latest episode, where conversations range from golfing with grumbling bankers to insightful dating escapades, and the real talk on podcasting dreams. We even swing by the concept of privilege, unpacking the ironies that surface when comparing the banker's world to the broader tapestry of life's grievances and moments of joy. And yes, we'll chuckle over the idea that a well-mowed lawn might just be one of life’s simpler pleasures.

Ever wondered what connects a football player's pregame rituals to the allure of natural wonders or the thrill of a perfect golf shot? This episode bridges these disparate worlds, drawing lines between athletic dedication, natural beauty, and the unpredictable charm of hitting the green. We'll share our top three awe-inspiring moments, from the Northern Lights' unexpected visit to Florida to the nostalgia of aluminum bats and Little League triumphs. Tune in as we relive these memories and consider how they shape our shared human experience.

Strap in as we navigate the more complex turns of life, addressing topics as heavy as online harassment and as light-hearted as the humor in a bad comedy set. We'll dissect the dance of freedom of speech in comedy, reflect on the unexpected consequences of social media missteps, and tease future projects that are simmering just below the surface. By the end of our time together, you'll have laughed, pondered, and maybe even shifted your perspective on the quieter, more profound connections that bind us all.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show. Oh, there he is. Can you see me?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, funny, because when I test my microphone I always go test one, two, three. Test one, two, three, tuttle. What's going on, tuttle?

Speaker 3:

Is that what you do?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then I listen back to it to see if it's over modulated, and if it's not, then I know we're good to go.

Speaker 3:

And we are Good morning to you, Kevin Klein. Hi, Timmy T.

Speaker 2:

How was your weekend? Uh, weekend was good. I can't remember what I did. Uh, those are the best weekends, yeah. Yeah, I mean we didn't do much. I mean I ran yesterday I mowed the lawn. When I mow the lawn here, it's anywhere from seven to eight miles of walking.

Speaker 3:

That's great.

Speaker 2:

I know it's awesome.

Speaker 3:

I love it. How big is your lawn? Five acres, you do the whole five acres.

Speaker 2:

I do three of it by hand, wow. That's a lot it is, but you know what it's great exercise and I you know, tim, and you've been with me long enough you know that my personality is I like to see immediate progress and you know, when you mow a strip of lawn, that's immediate progress.

Speaker 3:

It's so satisfying, isn't it? It totally, is Totally is To look at it afterwards and just go. I did that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cause I I mow patterns, so do you?

Speaker 3:

yeah, right now we're a crisscross pattern, love it yeah, do you ever get funky like zigzag or a chevron or something like that?

Speaker 2:

I don't do chevrons, but I have done waves before where, if you're watching on on youtube, uh it goes like that. And then I've done diamonds before. Uh, the waves ended up looking more like a lady's breasts, but I tried.

Speaker 3:

I love it. Thanks, Get creative. Well, you have okay, so you were. I had a playful weekend. What did you do? Well, I played a little bit of golf on Saturday.

Speaker 2:

I read that. Yeah, tell me how it went. How are you hitting? When's the last time you played?

Speaker 3:

Probably January. Okay, I mean Kev. I spent a lot of 2023 golfing with my golf buddies oh cool. And this time I went golfing with somebody who was pitching a business idea at me All right.

Speaker 3:

And he brought with him a banker Okay, right up your alley, who basically spent three to four holes bitching about, uh, you know, customers and stuff like that, defaulting on loans, you know, bankruptcies, all that stuff. I mean just chirping, just you know. You know this is a guy who, uh, got out of the parking lot he's got like a jag and all that stuff. Just, you know one of those guys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Doesn't quite talk. I'm a banker. It doesn't quite talk. Like thirst and hell a third, but you know the vibe is there. You see, you should do like me just snooze and dream, dream and snooze.

Speaker 2:

The pleasures are unlimited.

Speaker 3:

Finally, after complaining about you know people default, defaulting on loans and credit and all that stuff, I was like I'm like dude, what the fuck are you talking about? You and your jackass friends out back in 2008 because of the subprime mortgage thing you got yourselves into and know. You got yourselves into it on purpose and are caught laughing on tape on how the American taxpayer is going to hold the bag and you fuck the American people out of $750 billion and you're complaining about Joe Sixpack blue collar workers that can't in this terrible economy, can't pay. You're an asshole dude.

Speaker 2:

So did you end up playing the back nine with him? Yeah, he showed up from there.

Speaker 3:

Oh, did he? Yeah, because you know he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes. I didn't mean to come here and make it about this or anything like that. You're right, though, and you know you called me out on it.

Speaker 2:

He was cool about it, dude, when you have contempt for your customers. That's when you got to get out.

Speaker 3:

I was. I was just I couldn't believe. You know, if you want to say something initially, that's fine, but he just kept with it and I was just like dude. This is causing you to stand over a two and a half foot putt way too long Because he would back off a two and a half foot putt and complain some more. And I'm like man, people are backing up over here and waiting for us to go. Man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and unless it's me, playing a two and a half foot putt is a gimme, one would think yeah, did he make it?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, no, was he was pretty good golfer, oh really. Well, yeah, because he's a banker. He's a banker and that's what they do see. That was another thing too. Is you know he was talking, uh, you know early on how he would, uh, you know, you know, be able to golf like three or four times a week and stuff like that. I'm like dude, you have the life, man, what are you talking about? Yeah, you know, and you, you write all that stuff off anyway.

Speaker 2:

There's a reason they call it banker's hours.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, exactly, and you get all these extra day off.

Speaker 2:

I mean I would have such problems. Is it really that bad buddy? No, it's not. Nothing is ever really that bad. When you step back from it, you know nothing ever really is.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. If you're able to inhale and exhale about 12 times a minute, life is good man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, obviously death is is definitely you know something that's you know as bad, but for the most part in business, nah.

Speaker 3:

No, man. I mean you have you own the government. Okay, you've got them paid off, they have it set up. So when these people default, you write that off. It's bad debt. It goes off your bottom line. I mean, how bad is your life, dude?

Speaker 2:

Well, not only has the government bailed out the banking industry, they've done it how many times for the airline industry.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, exactly, and you don't do that. I mean, if you fail, you fail. It's like sorry guys, you're toast, your business is toast. We're going to get some new blood in here who will do things better and more responsibly and less scandalous, you know of course that's what. That's the natural order of things. But no, we, we prop up some and some get screwed. You know, if you're a big organization or corporation, you get propped up. If you're a mom and pop, you get screwed didn't they do that with the auto?

Speaker 3:

industry. They did, they did that COVID did that man. Everything was closed except for big corporate giants, everything else was closed. Wow, yeah, yeah, they did and they destroyed. God knows how many mom and pop businesses have been family businesses for 45. The numbers are staggering.

Speaker 2:

Oh dude, here in Missouri, in rural Missouri anyway, down in Springfield, there were lots of mom and pop restaurants that had been open like 30, 45 years, had to shut her.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and that was the plan. But what does that serve, dude? They want again Kev. They're crazy and I'm just. I'm going to say this real quick and be done with it. They're crazy and I'm just. I'm going to say this real quick and be done with it. They've gotten together a group of them you know billionaires who are so bored and said you know what the? These people are a virus. They're eating up our resources. We need 90 percent of them dead and the other 10 percent to just be good slaves who will take their two or three loaves of bread a week and be happy with it. That's silly. That's what. That's what all these Bilderberg meetings are and all these secret meetings that they have.

Speaker 2:

Wow, we need to be in those secret meetings.

Speaker 3:

The funny thing is Kev is enough. People with some juice, the Elon Musks and stuff like that they understand. And now there's a big pushback, a big pushback, and they're, and they're free, and they're freaking out. These evil fuckers are freaking out now could they kill musk? All right, it wouldn't shock me at all, I, it wouldn't shock me if, if musk, trump and others didn't make it to 2025. It wouldn't shock me at all, wow.

Speaker 2:

But the only problem is is that could be the uh, you know the flashpoint yeah, well, I was just getting ready to say I mean that high profile, and if you already are talking about it, then they couldn't pull it off yeah, exactly they would fall under too much of a microscope again.

Speaker 3:

This is like this is going to be the most interesting year ever, because you know, you know, you can't, you can't, uh, you can't. This is this one's too much of a landslide to uh have fraudulent election.

Speaker 2:

Oh you're talking about the election yeah, no, I'm talking about everything.

Speaker 3:

I'm talking about 2024 in general. Oh, I mean, this is it. I mean this is good versus evil and it's clashing, and we're going to find out a lot over the next few months, man.

Speaker 2:

I thought it was just going to be an interesting year because we've been doing this full time now.

Speaker 3:

Kevin. Another thing I did this weekend. You know like right after that I get done golfing.

Speaker 2:

How'd you score? You can't leave at that.

Speaker 3:

Like a 91, 92. Okay, okay, you broke 100, I never have I yeah, I can't, but you know, still I had that thing down in the uh, you know, mid to high 80s last year yeah, okay, so mid to high 80s, you're four strokes off. I know it wasn't. It wasn't bad. You know you can't complain. Even a bad day of golf is a great day Totally. You know what I'm saying. I do know what you're saying but you know, afterwards I had a date with a lovely lady.

Speaker 2:

Really, please tell if you can.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, I don't know. She may like watch this and she probably has the feeling right now. It just wasn, it wasn't Okay. You know, yeah, no, I, yeah, I do. I just I've just noticed that that a pattern with very beautiful, beautiful women, younger women, uh is they just? They complain about everything. Oh, really, now, if you're a young, beautiful woman and you don't complain, then you're a unicorn. God bless you. Well, what are they complaining about? Just nothing. You know. The conversations are just negative.

Speaker 5:

Oh.

Speaker 3:

I'm like say something. I'm just sitting there having dinner. I'm just like say something positive.

Speaker 2:

Say anything, just something but isn't, isn't that the world we live in? Now, though, that everything is negative on the news, on social media?

Speaker 3:

well, you know, I finally told her, I said I said just give me one cool, bright, shiny, you know, lollipop and flowers, rainbow, sunshine thing happening in your life. Give me one and no.

Speaker 2:

Crickets, crickets. And at that point you interjected and said hey, you're on a date with Timmy T.

Speaker 3:

This is a great day for you.

Speaker 3:

I know she said yes to everybody. It was so funny. It's so funny. But, kevin, interesting thing happened afterwards.

Speaker 3:

I'm out getting the uh valet and, uh, you know, the valet pulls up and you know, we, I open the door for her, let her in, and I'm walking around and I'm, you know, giving the valet pulls up and you know, we, I opened the door for her, let her in and I'm walking around and I'm, you know, giving the tip and stuff like that, and he, he goes, he goes. You know, I've seen you here. You're always with these, uh, these beautiful women. It's like the this is the third time I was there and it's the same valet guy and he's like you're, I mean, dude, you're old enough to be my dad. And he's like what are you? What is, what's the deal? Are you somebody? I'm like, nah, I'm not anybody. And he goes, uh, he goes.

Speaker 3:

I just, you know the last two that I saw you with, wow, you know, he was like that, and then this and then this one, and then he's, and I was. I was like look, here's the deal. Okay, your generation doesn't believe in taking care of the lady. You believe in we're going to do it Dutch, okay, and your generation, unfortunately, has been screwed over by the financial system. You know the economy, so a lot of you can't afford it, and these beautiful ladies want to be treated well and you just don't have the cake. And that's that. That's what I hear from these. These women too. Is they like older guys?

Speaker 3:

because older guys, you know they, they can take care of things yeah, they've got the experience and sure I get that yeah, and I said I said until I mean you're going to continue to date righty Johnson and lefty Davis, and he laughed, man, he laughed. He did, he laughed, he thought that was hilarious. Yeah, that's funny because I'm trying to go, so I got a side hustle that I'm trying to make happen, and this, that and the other is like dude, just keep grinding man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you know you're a young guy, you got plenty of time. Just find something that you're really, really passionate at and in some way try to monetize it. Keep your expenses down. If you got to live with mom and dad for a few more years, do that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, save as much as possible?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know she. Uh, my, my date was getting a little annoying cause she was just sitting there for a while, so I had to cut it off with him. I see, yeah, but I get, I gave him a nice little. Uh, you know pep talk?

Speaker 2:

Yeah for sure, you know you were just talking about. You know, uh, keep at it, keep at his uh, his grind, his uh side hustle. You know what? Let me tell you something that I just learned over the weekend how, what do you think the percentage is of podcasts that make it to 100 episodes?

Speaker 3:

Ah, 100?

Speaker 2:

100 episodes.

Speaker 3:

Is it even 1%?

Speaker 2:

It's 4%.

Speaker 3:

Is it Okay?

Speaker 2:

4%. Do you believe?

Speaker 3:

that yeah. People get tired of the grind.

Speaker 2:

Exactly Well. And then people just get tired of things to say Exactly Well. And then people just get tired of things to say Well, not only that, but they also are like.

Speaker 3:

They're also like oh my God, it's not like making me a shit ton of money yet, oh my God, whereas you know you plan on never making a penny off of a podcast, and if something happens and something breaks and you can make some money, then God bless you. That's the first thing I told Audrey, my daughter, when she started her podcast. I said do not expect to make a penny off of this thing at all.

Speaker 3:

If it happens it happens and I said, well, you can, but you can use this podcast as kind of an umbrella. I mean, here you are, you're a great motivational speaker. I said, audrey, mean, here you are, you're a great motivational speaker. I said, audrey, you should be taking notes from every podcast and building a speech, because having a a former division one athlete who excels in everything and you know straight a's and you know kumasum loud and all that stuff, with the ability to handle a crowd in the way you do I, I mean you could be called and doing half hour, 45 minute hour long speeches and paid a lot of money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is a lot of money in that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I said just look at your podcast as kind of like your launch.

Speaker 2:

You know we only hear about, like the Rogans and SmartList and all those high profile ones. Do you know what and this is perfect for Audrey do you know what the highest percentage of profitable podcast is? What is it? Businesses selling things.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

And teaching things.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we do none.

Speaker 3:

And again, kev, if this makes us some money someday, great, but if it doesn't, I mean it's just a fun creative outlet.

Speaker 2:

I used to hate Mondays. Now I love them.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is fun.

Speaker 2:

We record on.

Speaker 3:

Mondays yeah, we record every Monday for those unaware. So, yeah, and the thing I love is already the bond that we've developed with thousands of people. Oh, it's awesome my boogeyman under my bed. When I was a kid and I freaked out that George Lucas I thought he got in my head the Star Wars guy and stole my boogeyman and put them on the screen in 1999. And how many comments did we get from people about boogeyman? They had one too and everything like that.

Speaker 2:

I thought honestly that we were going to be killing my mother-in-law because she was laughing so hard at the cover, the blanket shield that we were talking about, and how you, michael jordan, did into bed from the bathroom. Oh yeah, you couldn't, you can't, you can't leave your feet dangling. No, she was hyperventilating, laughing, so it was trish oh yeah, yeah, what it was one.

Speaker 3:

I mean seriously I covered. I covered 15 feet with one step, because if you put that foot down a second time, the boogeyman he's. He sees you when you put your foot down the first time. Okay, so he sees that under the bed or wherever he is.

Speaker 2:

And then, uh, boom, if you put that thing down again, he's ready to snatch yeah, well, trish had an interesting point, though she's like well, if he sees you in the air, why can't he come out? I'm like because they don't have ups. No, boogeymen don't have ups.

Speaker 3:

They lay low.

Speaker 3:

No, no, exactly. They're low center of gravity and they don't like to have too much elevation at all. I mean, that's your shot. But it got an interesting direct message from one of our listeners in England, by the way. It shocks me how many different states and how many different countries are listening to this podcast. We appreciate anybody that is so remote, that gives us an hour and a half of their week. We appreciate it. But he said, yeah, the boogeyman thing, man he goes. I remember I used to go down the stairs and I did the same thing. Kev, I don't know if you remember this or not you would go down the stairs in the middle of the night to get a drink of water or something like that. Yeah, and you would have to make it the quickest thing ever because you have this thought in your mind that the devil is going to try to grab at your feet.

Speaker 2:

Mine wasn't the devil, mine was Charles Manson. But yeah, I get it. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Somebody's going to try to grab at your feet, so you got to make it so quick. It's unbelievable, and I didn't even realize that. You know that that british people, uh, you know irish united kingdom I didn't realize that they had boogeyman too. I I thought that the you know, their biggest worry was dental hygiene well, it's a different kind of boogeyman over in ireland.

Speaker 2:

That's a sober, a sober person.

Speaker 5:

Hey, somebody sober is going to get you. That's funny.

Speaker 3:

I was like I totally get it. I was going to tell him, I was going to say hey, dude, so you're downstairs and you're having a bowl of Lucky Charms In the middle of the night and you're just thinking, I, I gotta do this so fast because eventually the boogeyman's gonna wake up. Right now he's up in your brother and sister's room, you know, but he's gonna figure out, he's gonna see a light under the door or something like that.

Speaker 3:

he's coming down yep and the buggering will begin yeah, ah, your charms weren't so lucky this time were they? Uh-huh, I love it.

Speaker 2:

We got a. It was a comment on one of our YouTube episodes. I can't remember if it was like the second episode or the third episode, but it was from somebody named EO Rourke and it was very funny. They had just recently found the podcast and he says, uh and I know it's a he because I looked him up on LinkedIn Uh and uh. He says I can't believe.

Speaker 2:

Tuttle asked you if you pleasured yourself to your aunt Phoebe and my reply to that was that was stuff that we would say to each other behind the scenes when we were in a radio studio. I said what you're getting with the Tuttle Clime podcast is stuff that we always did in the studio but never when the microphone was on. This is stuff that the FCC doesn't think you're capable of listening to and surviving, and this is stuff that made radio companies cringe that if we were to do this on the radio because it doesn't align with their, I guess, community standards. But yeah, what you're getting with the Tuttle Clime podcast is what we did in the studio when the microphones were off.

Speaker 3:

Well, we often, you know, and AJ you know, weighed in Remember AJ, yeah Suave.

Speaker 2:

Suave.

Speaker 3:

He said dude, do what you guys did behind the scenes. You know he was a producer of ours, uh-huh. And people who you know saw us behind the scenes said if you do the stuff behind the scenes, that'll be the like of the best podcast ever. And that's what we're doing. We're just this. This is us exactly you know, you, you got the PG-13 version of us on the radio because of corporate owners worried management and FCC regulations. Now, now this is us.

Speaker 2:

This is the way that we would act behind the scenes.

Speaker 3:

Most radio people just have the filthiest mouth. Yeah, I mean Erica, I mean just a sailor mouth. Everything was the F-bomb. Yeah. And same with us?

Speaker 2:

Yep, oh, for sure, did she? Did she comment or anything to you on the last episode, cause we spoke about her? I have not. We don't talk. Oh okay, friendly, wave, friendly wave yeah. Timmy's ball game know?

Speaker 3:

hey, hey, tell you what he's looking good man, that video you sent me, yeah, yeah. And then he had a. He had a triple uh with three rbis and they won the championship late last week way to go, timmy so he's got the little metal around his neck. He's so pumped up, oh yeah, so I, I anticipate, I mean I, I know things can be political in small towns, you know they like the coach's sons, but there's no way he doesn't make the all-star team that's awesome there.

Speaker 3:

I mean he's got to, but we're gonna find out okay.

Speaker 2:

When do we find out?

Speaker 3:

we'll find out soon, all right, so fingers crossed on that one. But yeah, I mean kev, the connection that we make with thousands of people already on a podcast, I love it. I did a Facebook post on Friday because it was the two-year anniversary of when my contract wasn't renewed and just the response and the vibe and the feel and I love it. And I also love that people are going back to the beginning, like the first episode, and they're going through the entire catalog. Keep in mind when you, when you go to the tunnel inclined podcast, you download it on whatever podcast uh platform you have or youtube or whatever. All of our stuff is what they say is evergreen. You know you can listen to it or watch it anytime. You know we don't do it.

Speaker 3:

We don't do breaking news or anything like that typically no, we don't, yeah, so, and even if we did, I mean you know, you know you're going to the back catalog so yeah, but yeah for the for the most part, this is stuff that'll play five years from now yeah and kev, when I listen back, uh to our episodes, you know there's always something that makes me think, like other things. Like I was listening back when we were talking on the last uh podcast I think it was the last one about how pilots are so calm and cool when they're talking to the tower, even when the shit's hitting the fan. You know planes going engines out, fire in the cargo area, fire in the cabin, whatever and their voices are always just so chill. This is Cactus 1539.

Speaker 5:

It's returning back towards LaGuardia. Okay, you need to return to LaGuardia. Turn left heading up 220. We may end up in the Hudson.

Speaker 3:

And it made me think that here on Earth, you know, on the ground, we have some you know on the ground pilots that are kind of the same way and those are championship quarterbacks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're very calm.

Speaker 3:

That's the difference between a championship quarterback and then just somebody. That's a good quarterback with a lot of skills and able to throw the championship quarterbacks are like the pilots when the shit's hitting the fan. You know guys like Montana, harris Martin he was our people watcher.

Speaker 4:

So during the week of Super Bowl, once you get into the Super Bowl city, harris was like a little kid, coming up to you telling you how excited he was about all the celebrities he had seen. When you get in the game, though, harris is pretty anal, joe recognized at that point in time that I was out of control.

Speaker 3:

He was like humming, he was vibrating, he was so nervous.

Speaker 4:

And he goes hey H, I go. What he goes? Look down there in the other end zone. And I go, I look down there. I said, hey H, man, there's John Candy and Harris is funny.

Speaker 2:

Harris is like oh yeah, that is John Candy, look at that it's typical, joe, just to take everybody's mind, and especially Harris's off the importance of that drive, just to remind him this is a game, let's go have some fun, that they're just like all calm and cool. Well, it comes down to preparation, number one. It comes down to, uh, just self-belief, number two. And it comes down to you want to be in that situation. You know I I've I've long said about myself anyway that I can handle pressure. I hate stress. People ask me what's the difference? Pressure is? It's, uh, the bottom of the ninth. Yeah, it's uh basis loaded. You're down by three and you got a three two. Count on you, I want the bat in my hand. Then. Stress is you just got a health diagnosis. That's stress. Now, I love to be in pressure situations yeah, I it's, it's fun.

Speaker 3:

I mean, hand me the rock, yeah I I mean Jordan was that way. Oh Jordan, Exactly.

Speaker 2:

The bulls were your team. I know I've I've seen last dance, but I still don't understand how did Steve Kerr get that shot? Why didn't Jordan get that shot?

Speaker 3:

I'm pretty sure that, if you'll, if you'll notice from last dance and and the conversations I've heard is they were all over michael. So michael told him hey, man, I may have to flip it to you, because they they were swarming and they their number one thing is michael jordan, does not beat us right if one of the other guys hits it and beats us, that's fine, but michael Jordan, I don't even want him to get a fucking shot off.

Speaker 2:

You know you're knocking that shot down If the greatest has confidence in you to do it.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, and Steve Kerr is just like, oh my God, I mean, and everything was on him, the whole thing was on him. And lo and behold, when they went out there last second shot they were all over, had to flip it to Kerr. He hits the shot, but, kev, the best thing about that was the championship parade in Chicago, the Kerr speech.

Speaker 5:

A lot of people have been asking me about the shot the other night, michael in traffic to Kerr and there have been some misconceptions about what actually happened. I wanted to clear it up. When we called timeout, with 25 seconds to go, phil told Michael. He said, michael, I want you to take the last shot. And Michael said you know, phil, I don't feel real comfortable in these situations, so maybe we ought to go in another direction. Why don't we go to Steve?

Speaker 2:

When you look at Montana, one of the all-time greats do you see him the same way that I see him as the most unassuming great athlete in the history of sports? He just doesn't look like an athlete.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, kev, I've actually been in the same room with him.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And I mean he literally looks like he could just be you know a pool guy or just you know a real estate agent, or an accountant.

Speaker 3:

He's not big at all, I am much bigger than he is. Wow, like, like he came up to my chin, did he really? And I was like damn dude, this is crazy. Yeah, and and and all that he did. I mean he just, he just had it, man, oh, totally, I mean, god gave him enough skills. You know he could, he can make the throws and you know, you know he could, he could read the, uh, the progressions and everything like that. But he just, hey, man, we're totally gonna win this game. Man, yeah, I think I didn't, I didn't. You know what, how long it takes me to put on all these fucking equipment and all this shit. I didn't put all this shit on to come here, out here, and have the motherfucking dallas cowboys beat us. No, no, did you see traffic this morning on the way to the stadium? That was bullshit. Okay, I didn't sit in an hour and 20 minutes of San Francisco traffic so we could lose to the New York giants, uh-uh.

Speaker 2:

You know that's a lot of the reason why football players retire. When they do, it's not because they lose love for the game, it's because of training camp and the pregame routine that it takes them two hours to get ready, because of all the braces and stuff that they got to put on.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, yeah, it's a. It's a bit of a process. Oh my God, kev, did you ever play football? Nope, was not allowed to oh yeah, that's right, your baseball, your dad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but the uh. The varsity team wanted me to kick for them when I was a sophomore.

Speaker 3:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm like dad, it's just kicking.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, you kick.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no, no, no, it was all baseball.

Speaker 3:

Damn Kicking field goals and extra points.

Speaker 2:

Nah, you could, you could, you could pull a muscle.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's terrible dude.

Speaker 2:

I know yeah.

Speaker 3:

Because, hey, kev, you kick a game, winning field goal. You see that cute little cheerleader, she's smiling at you. Yeah, she's smiling at you. You may not have to sit home on homecoming night.

Speaker 2:

I would only be half creepy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know he turns us the other way, but boy, he kicked that game, winning field goal. It can't be, all bad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know he's got stuff carved into his arm and he talks about serial killers a lot, but hey man, he hit a 38 yarder when we needed a 38 yarder that's right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let it be known to any young men out there. Uh, you think it's romantic to carve a girl's name in your arm or burn it in your chest? It ain't. They ain't going out with you no, you think.

Speaker 3:

You think it's cool yeah yeah, it's not not at all. I mean you do it in your tree out in. Yeah, it's not Not at all. I mean you do it in your tree out in your backyard. That's fine, that's cute. You start taking a pound of flesh out of the arm and they're making sure they have pepper spray and their dad knows who you are.

Speaker 2:

That's right, yep.

Speaker 3:

If I ever go missing Dad, it's Kevin Klein. I love it All. Right, kev, let's do a top three.

Speaker 1:

Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle and Klein's top three.

Speaker 2:

Did you guys get to see the Aurora Borealis, the Northern Lights, because they were visible all the way down to Florida this past weekend.

Speaker 3:

You know, I didn't see it myself.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I saw. I remember seeing some funky. We had a lot of cloud cover this weekend.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's going to make it difficult for you to see the Northern Lights. They reached all the way down here to Missouri and people were getting great photos and stuff. I didn't see them this past weekend. I saw them when I was in Alaska in 2019. But it got me thinking about the most incredible things you've seen not in picture, not on TV, actually in person. What are the three most incredible things you've seen?

Speaker 3:

I saw Dale Earnhardt win his only Daytona 500.

Speaker 6:

This could be the Daytona 500. Bobby Labonte goes to the outside. Labonte up high.

Speaker 2:

Earnhardt uses the left car of Rick Bass as a pick. 20 years of trying, 20 years of frustration Dale Earnhardt will come to the caution flag to win the Daytona 500. That's amazing. He only won it once, isn't that crazy? Number one that's how hard it is to win that race. And number two I thought he was the greatest driver in NASCAR history, wasn't he? I mean, you could say Richard Petty.

Speaker 3:

Richard Petty, then Jeff Gordon, then him. I don't follow NASCAR like I used to follow it, but he's on his way, Not as many people do.

Speaker 2:

We were at the height man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean we were at the apex and speaking of which Kev, the Bristol race. I saw the Bristol race in Bristol, tennessee in 1999. That was incredible.

Speaker 6:

With one lap to go. It's Terry Labonte nosing to the inside of Dale Earnhardt, side by side down the front stretch. Terry Labonte noses to the point in turn one.

Speaker 5:

Terry Labonte takes the lead. Here comes Earnhardt. He hits Labonte. Labonte spins in turn two. Ricky Rudd crashes into him, tony Stewart crashes into him.

Speaker 6:

Earnhardt heads back into turn three. Out of turn number four, Dale Earnhardt will win the Goody's Headache Powders 500.

Speaker 3:

I saw that with my father-in-law at the time, ed and we were just both going. Oh my, you know, because I grew up in indianapolis, I saw the brickyard 400 like for the first few years. I saw the indy 500 probably about 20 times and I was like this is the coolest race to actually watch is the bristol.

Speaker 2:

How neat ed was a great man.

Speaker 3:

I liked ed a lot ed was a good man yep, who I remember the first time I ever, uh, took him golfing. He was the first time he was a good man. Yep, who I remember the first time I ever took him golfing. He was the first time he was a golfer.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

He had never golfed one time before this. I'm not kidding Kev. First hole from the fairway, probably about 125, 130 yards out.

Speaker 2:

He holds it in the hole, dude, you stop right there. You can't ever get better than that.

Speaker 3:

I told him. I said go to the clubhouse right now, Sell your clubs, Because they'll give you, they'll make you an offer and they'll write you a check right now and don't ever play this fucking game again.

Speaker 3:

Yeah you peaked, man. Yeah, you peaked, and it's only going to get worse. And yeah, but you know how it is, kev. You and yeah, but you know how it is, kev, you know how golf is. Once you hit that shot, you're like I will now dedicate my entire life to this. Right, I will blow off family events, spend a ridiculous amount of money, completely lose my friends, just so I can get that same feeling again.

Speaker 2:

And you maybe never will Such a frustrating game.

Speaker 3:

Such a frustrating game. Such a frustrating game, cool things that I've seen, by the way Kev, aurora, borealis, yeah, whenever I think of that, I think of the movie Frequency, with.

Speaker 2:

Dennis Quaid.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the father you know, talking to the father back in time, his father is a firefighter who passed away and, yeah, I always think of that. Yeah, hang on a sec.

Speaker 6:

John. Hey, jules, there's somebody I want you to talk to. Okay, remember, I told you about this guy John.

Speaker 5:

I want you to say hello to him, john. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

Say hello to my wife Julia.

Speaker 5:

Hi, Hi. John Frank tells me you're a cop.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because you say that that has a special meaning with you and your father.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, it just made me think, man. If I could talk to my dad through some aurora about Borealis, you know that'd be cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, something Elon Musk could maybe invent in a few years before he gets killed, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You invent that in front of the frequency thing. But I I then again I'm afraid of what my dad may say God, son, I didn't realize how much you jerked off. Like I'll have a Dean Martin and frank sinatra over for cocktails and we'll want to do a peer in and look at my. I'll say I'm proud of my son, look at he's doing so well in radio and oh, he's jerking off again. Sorry, chairman of the board, sorry dino he did it his way good one.

Speaker 3:

Um, okay, other, what I got, I got bristol, I got daytona. Ah, beautiful things I've ever seen. I thought we didn't we do this. No, with sunsets and sun in Sedona, I thought it was the same thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh is it.

Speaker 3:

Wasn't that the same? Didn't you do the same Tom? We did the same. Tom 3, kev.

Speaker 2:

Damn sorry Do.

Speaker 3:

I have to take over the fucking Tom 3 here.

Speaker 2:

No, I just thought it was timely because not a lot of people get to see the Northern Lights.

Speaker 3:

Kev I would. I would have to say, um, how, just seeing how naturally beautiful, uh, some women are without makeup, is that weird? No, not at all. Is that weird. Like, like you know, like like I I have this thing of of when you know you, when you see a woman without makeup on and she's still absolutely stunning, that is just like wow, that is, that's like a, that's art right there sure you know I, you know you.

Speaker 3:

For example, you'll look through um, you look on the internet and you can see they. They cover women with and without makeup and stuff like that.

Speaker 3:

You know people like jessica alba, selma hayek jennifer lopez jennifer lopez without makeup and they're just like they're all latina. I wonder why that is Latina or Asian. There's some beautiful like like. I remember seeing this. There's a lady that lives down the street who I pass by when I'm doing my cardio sometimes, and she'll do cardio too and she's just no makeup on and everything like that and I'm just like, wow, that is a stunning woman. You know, is that is that weird? No, that just popped in my head, just just an appreciation for those natural beauties who don't need to put all the makeup on and are still gorgeous. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think that's fine. Okay, it's your top three. What do you have? My top three of the most impressive things I've ever seen. I'm going to go in reverse order with number three, neuschwanstein Castle in Germany. So when I was growing up, my dad always told me I was going to be a Major League Baseball player and he said well, when you become a Major League Baseball player, they make a lot of money, they get really rich. Really rich people can buy really cool things. So be thinking about what you want to buy when you become a Major League Baseball player. I always saw this building right here in magazines and I said when I become a Major League Baseball player, I'm going to buy that. I'm going to buy Neusmanstein. Oh man, seeing that thing up close, holy smokes, that was amazing.

Speaker 3:

Was that cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was very cool. The second thing is and this is the only reason this beats out Neuschwanstein is because this is natural and this is in Iceland. It's Gullfloss Waterfall. That's impressive. I've got the video up right now. Gullfloss waterfall that's impressive. I've got the video up right now. Gold floss You've seen pictures of it, because all those like imagination pictures and stuff they use gold floss. And then the final thing is not going to make Houston happy, but if you think about it in the longterm, you guys ended up coming out on top. But I was there on uh, I believe it was October 17th 2005 when Albert Pujols nearly hit the sit-go sign, 455 foot home run off of Brad Lidge. It cleared the train tracks at the juice box, yeah, and he won. They won. The Cardinals won the game, but you guys, houston won the series. So, yeah, you got it. You got yours in the end, but that was unbelievable. I've never seen a baseball hit like that.

Speaker 3:

He busted it 455 feet kev I. I remember when I was a little kid living in milwaukee oh, you saw some teams, man yeah, the harvey, harvey's wall bangers yeah where they, the team, led the league every year in home runs molitor youn ogilvy cooper uh gorman thomas.

Speaker 3:

Gorman thomas yeah and that's who I want to talk about right now. Kev, I mean, he struck out a lot, probably hit two, 10, but man, when he got ahold of one, the sound off the bat was different. I mean, the sound was different and I, I just I remembered I was just like you know, my 10 year old kid 11. I just I remembered I was just like you know, my 10 year old kid 11, 12 year old kid just going, wow, that is, that's, that's amazing. And I can remember them sometimes going up, but they go so far you don't even see them come down. They just they kind of just disappear. They call those moon shots, and Dave Kingman was the same way.

Speaker 2:

Oh he was massive.

Speaker 3:

Dave Kingman would strike out 300 times a year kev I, the only time I was at wrigley field when I was a kid, uh, dave kingman, I mean hit one past waverly avenue. I mean I, kevin, hasn't even fucking landed yet, and it instantly went over our head Instantly, like you could hear a noise and then you instantly just see it just a missile going over your head.

Speaker 2:

It's a projectile of massive proportions in speed.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, boy, I got to agree with you, man, though A well-hit home run is something to behold.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's majestic Altuve hits bombs.

Speaker 3:

Dude Kev. I was there game six when Alvarez hit the one center field where you're not even supposed to hit it. As a matter of fact, in the commentary I forget who it was John Smoltz. I think John Smoltz said you are not supposed to hit that ball up there where he hit it.

Speaker 6:

On a 2-1,varez. It's a high drive. Center field beer leans back. This game is turned upside down. You're not supposed to be able to hit him up there. No, I don't think I've ever I didn't think that was possible.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I like alvarez.

Speaker 3:

There's nothing like now, kev, I know you. How many times did you hit the ball over the fence?

Speaker 2:

six, uh, just in my senior year was six. Yeah, uh, I was not a power hitter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah see, I mean, that was it with me. I hit I, I tried to helm runs yeah I mean that, that I that's what I'm there for. I'm gonna strike out, you know, but I'm, if I get a hold of one, and there's nothing better. There's no better feeling in your hands, Kev, when you catch that thing on the barrel. I mean it's on the barrel and you could just feel it. I mean you don't even feel it in your hands.

Speaker 2:

You do not feel it in your hands when you hit it flush.

Speaker 3:

You can't even feel it, it's just. It becomes a part, the bat becomes part of you. Yeah. And you caught it flush. And then the noise, too. I would the noise like every one that I hit, I knew it was gone.

Speaker 2:

Sure.

Speaker 3:

I knew it was good, especially the aluminum bats. Kev, I mean aluminum bats, I mean you, just, I mean those. That was just so fun. Well, I mean aluminum bats were scary when we were playing when I was, uh, when I was played little league, uh, you know, when I was the guy I hit one. And billy hatcher even reached out to me a few years ago and he remembered billy hatcher was the pitcher for the other team yeah and I hit one back at him so hard.

Speaker 3:

He said I thought he was gonna take my head off. He said I could hear that whiz going past. I thought you killed me. I thought I thought I was dead to take my head off. He said I could hear that whiz going past. I thought you killed me. I thought I was dead. Because that's all, kevin, that's all I tried to do. I know you're an artist and you're like good contact. Hit them where they ain't Punching. Judy, I know you hit for average. That was great. I just tried to kill the fucking ball. You can change the course of a game with one swing.

Speaker 2:

I mean I, I batted fourth and that was my job, I mean my. My two heroes growing up were wade boggs and tony gwynn. They were doubles over the shortstop's head. That was what I did all the time the two, two a line drive in the left.

Speaker 5:

Norton will die, can't get it.

Speaker 2:

It's passive uh, as long as we're talking little league, it's been a while since I've heard this story. Uh, can you tell me about the, the colostomy bag? Oh, jesus, all right, this is awesome all right.

Speaker 3:

So, uh, I'm pitching. You know, because I pitched for the uh shorewood all-stars. It was the year. Uh, me and jeff timberlake and blake wilkerson I think his name was Andy Buck was on the team. We had a pretty good squad and I pitched. And then I played shortstop when I wasn't pitching and there was a foul ball when I was playing shortstop and my third baseman wasn't fast. So I was like, well, I got to go get it. So I'm just running over there and I was like, hey, man, we need this out. I make the catch and I flip over the fence Into the stands, into the stands, I'm holding the ball up and the crowd's going crazy. Even the other team was like, wow, that was a great catch.

Speaker 2:

And then I I hope you're watching this on YouTube. He's dry heaving.

Speaker 3:

I just, I just remember the smell. I just I didn't even see it first, I smelled it first and I had hit a guy. Oh, I hit his colostomy bag. Yeah, yeah, I had, and it and it, it splashed all over my white all-star pants. Splashed all over my white all-star pants, yeah, and it took Kev. It took anything and a half to get me some replacement pants, so I had to play in it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's when you just want to keep sliding, and sliding, and sliding to cover that up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, let me tell you this God bless Jeff Timberlake's mom. I mean, my mom wouldn't even have anything to do with it, but she uh, went to her car, she got a towel and wet a towel and she sat there and wiped off as much of it as she could oh, god bless her, yeah, oh my god, why did you have to? Why did you have to bring that story up, man?

Speaker 2:

Because we were talking Little League and I love that story and it was a hot day, if I'm not mistaken. Oh yeah, it was a hot day.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you know, usually in Wisconsin we get a little bit of a break, but not that day. That was the one day of the year where it decided to be like 95.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was awful. Did you get a nickname after that?

Speaker 3:

no, really no, no, I, I was tj, a lot tj, because we had we had another, uh, another timmy on the team. So my coach just just like, okay, something's got to give there. I just said, hey, call me tj, all right. So so you know TJ. There you go.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So, no, no Makes sense.

Speaker 3:

Do you have any creative ideas?

Speaker 5:

No, I just know how kids are.

Speaker 3:

I'd imagine if that would have happened in the beginning of the season that probably would have been a nickname. But you know that was one of the last games we played.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, yeah, it didn't care.

Speaker 3:

There's really no time to get that going. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

And they all went to the public schools for the most part, and I was the private school kid, so I didn't see him in school.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, well, yeah.

Speaker 3:

But, he made the catch. Yeah, they were at Shorewood Junior High and I was at St Roberts. St Roberts. Yeah, I was at St Roberts in Shorewood, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2:

Getting his knuckles wrapped every other day.

Speaker 3:

Man, the nuns are just ooh. I just laugh when people get. You know, when people say they were hard on the, the school was hard on my. You know, I got my ass kicked by nuns, I did. I mean, I had a sister, francine. She just punched me one time, really, it was fifth grade Kev, and we're in her room and she didn't show up, you know, like after lunch or something like that. The windows are open and we're looking down and everybody's goofing around and I look out the window and I said, here comes Beanie that was everybody's nickname for her beanie and I didn't know it was a bad thing. I thought she knew she was called beanie and was okay with it. I didn't realize that it was a behind her back type thing. Oh wow, she looked up at me and gave me the Kev the look that I will never forget and then she just started walking toward the door like fucking terminator monster. I can I mean I can almost, you know Count the steps of her going up the step. You know, in my head.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And she got up through that door. Mr Tuttle, come with me. She pulls me out of the hallway and says what did you call me? I said what are you talking about? When you saw me on the playground coming up, what did you call me? I said what are you talking about? When you saw me on the playground coming up, what did you call me? I said Sister Francine. Oh, now you're going to lie. You're going to add lying to it. She goes that's actually my name and it would have been fine. It wouldn't have gotten you trouble here. But I know what you said. She steps back, kev, and then just brings one up from fucking Georgia and jacks me. Wow, and can you imagine in this day and age I don't know if you can even do that in a Catholic school now, can you?

Speaker 2:

Oh no, I can't imagine.

Speaker 3:

I mean were there OK, I guess, with corporal punishment in private, private schools or whatever?

Speaker 2:

yeah, no, I don't think you could, but did you hear what happened when you said sister francine, mr tuttle, come here. Did you? Did you hear the bolt of thunder and lightning that hit outside of my studio? Did it? No, did it? Yes, yes, right, when? You said oh my god, mr tuttle, come here.

Speaker 3:

She remembers it too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was a strong, strong clap of thunder and because I'm in a soundproof studio, you probably didn't get to hear it, but yeah, it was perfect timing.

Speaker 3:

He did make it to heaven. Then I wasn't sure I'll never forget, because the class still wasn't quieted down, they were all talking. I remember she opened the door mr time it's just, everybody stopped. Yeah, everybody stopped. It was like I, that was. I was. Nothing really ever frightened me. That scared me, wow, because I knew it was coming. I mean I'd heard stories about her just fucking people up for years.

Speaker 2:

Sister, I'm sorry and I will try not to make this a habit. How old was she.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, but you know what I did say and I shouldn't have said it.

Speaker 2:

Well, this isn't the first time.

Speaker 3:

I said is that all you got you, little fucking penguin?

Speaker 2:

you did not I did not, you would, you would not be alive right now no, she hit me, she I could still.

Speaker 3:

And kevin's, so funny. When I tell the story, I I feel it, do you really? I I mean just, I mean she right there, that's where she got me boom right there.

Speaker 2:

You think she has to say that in confession. You know, does she have to Today I jacked a student.

Speaker 3:

Cav, that was just. I think it was just a thing, man.

Speaker 2:

That was normal.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you know, sister Teresa Carroll hit me with a ruler. Yeah, you know, hit my hand with a ruler all the time.

Speaker 6:

Christ Jake, take it easy man.

Speaker 5:

Jesus Christ, jesus Christ.

Speaker 6:

Shit. Fuck you, Jesus Christ. Oh you fat penguin.

Speaker 3:

I mean just all the time, if I was talking or something like that ruler, yeah, yeah. So I just think that you know this is back in the day where, I mean, you handed your kids over to the catholic church and the catholic church did anything they fucking wanted to to them yeah, you just hope the kid returns that night and and you know which of course the we find out later, the church ends up abusing that a privilege yeah, yeah, big time yeah, so yeah, that's uh yeah, fun times though, right buddy oh, absolutely, yeah, uh, absolutely I mean.

Speaker 3:

But the thing is is you grow up so tunnel vision? And you know, I mean when I, when I, after my uh, freshman year in high school, when I went to a public school, my sophomore year in high school, I was not prepared for that.

Speaker 2:

How so.

Speaker 3:

I just I wasn't the public school kids are much different, yeah, much much more wild, of course.

Speaker 2:

And did you have girls at school in the Catholic school?

Speaker 3:

Not my freshman year.

Speaker 2:

It was an all boys school.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then I went to uh, uh, you know, high school, um in in in Wisconsin, uh, public school, and I was just and Kev, that was the summer where I got done with my freshman year and I my sophomore year.

Speaker 3:

I grew like, from five, five to six one and you know, I started, instead of having the bowl haircut, I started feathering my hair back and you know, and like girls were starting to notice me and I was so clueless. I was so clueless, I mean, literally like the first week a girl named Renee was digging on me and you, I, I would, I'd get to hang out with her after school and her friend this is sophomore year Her friend was a varsity cheerleader and they were both there, uh, and I think that they wanted to like do a threesome. Really, I mean, looking back at it, that's what they were going for and I was so clear I didn't pick up on that at all and Renee realized, okay, this guy's a neophyte, this Catholic school, he has no idea what's going on here. And we kind of went our separate ways because she was a fast girl who liked it fast you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

I do know what you're saying, and at that was at that point I was unable to accommodate type thing. But I, I just remember that I, just I, um, I, I was sitting there on the couch and we were watching tv and renee had, uh, one hand on one, one knee and her friend I can't remember her friend's name varsity cheerleader, she would rub my leg too here out of nowhere and I just wasn't picking up on it at all. I was just like man, I and and looking back and I was like you're so stupid, tim, so stupid, because I think that's that's what they were trying wanting to do. Because you know, uh, you know, later in the year I started hearing more about Renee and, yeah, she likes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would think that that might've been a sign or a signal, because usually at that age, uh, girls don't want to be competing for the same guy. Yeah, especially if you're friends.

Speaker 3:

They and they made a point that we're best friends. Ah, yeah, we are. We do everything together.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there you go.

Speaker 3:

And I just, I just I can't, I'm just so dumb and I can remember that. You know afterwards, probably months, I told, months afterwards, I told dan man about that and that's when he dan dan goes dude, they, they both wanted, they both wanted to fuck you man. What are you doing? Wow, I was like oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Do you? Think do you, do you think I could go to them right now and talk to them.

Speaker 3:

He's like no, you missed it, bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, you can't rewind life. She's with Donnie, you're good, it's over, donnie, and who else Exactly? Yeah?

Speaker 3:

So I yeah, I was just but that was the thing is I was just so clueless to all that stuff, like I yeah, I didn't even know what a blow job was. Oh, somebody said blow job and you know, and people are laughing and I was like, just to go along, I would laugh and I was like, what is that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And, and I remember asking my older sister after school what and it's almost awkward thing when you don't know what it is and you ask your sister.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, at least you're not your mom.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no. I knew. I knew it was something I shouldn't have asked mom, I'm not that stupid, but I didn't know. See, you know you didn't have have google. I didn't have a phone where I could just go look up. Okay, what is a blow job? Yeah like I had no idea what it was. And then I asked tina and she's like um, she puts her mouth on your peepee I was like why would she do that? I'm 15 years old and that's that's my mind frame. I just was so clueless.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But the moral of the story is he's making up for lost time Now. I started slow but I finished strong. Not going to lie to you, um and Kev.

Speaker 3:

speaking, since we're on this topic, I got to bring this up okay um, you know, I thought about this a few weeks ago and I kind of had a revelation. You know something that would make women happier, you know, and go a long way towards closing that mars venus gap. You know what I'm saying. Oh, really, do you think woman, women, would be happier if they had their like own official version of, uh, you know a money shot? Oh, you know what I'm saying. Like guys, guys get that end zone dance. Yeah, girls don't have that.

Speaker 5:

Sure, they do.

Speaker 2:

It's called a diamond ring.

Speaker 3:

All over your face, mofo.

Speaker 2:

Get a towel. Get a towel.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because we need it to wipe up our tears. Or you know their friends, you know I'm get a towel their tear, their tears right, yeah, exactly, oh, my god, it's so funny you're right, you're, you're right, they're fine man I didn't mean to throw water on your theory, but you know.

Speaker 3:

No, yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, I get they don't need it, but I just thought that you know cause the the, the guy gets that, that, that really. Hey, man, boom, I win. Now this is over for a while you know it's, you know?

Speaker 2:

Oh no, I know exactly what you're saying but that could be frustrating to a woman. Well, but there again lies the simplicity of man. We're good for, like you know, three seconds, and then we're good for a whole nother day or two. You know the lady, you know that's forever dude.

Speaker 3:

Okay, all right, that's funny. Good thought, cav, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I could be way off base.

Speaker 3:

This whole fucking podcast is way off base. Are you kidding me, kevin? If there was like a, a nuclear blast, and you know a hundred, two hundred years from now, they came back and they found this podcast in some way and started they'd be like, well, they deserve to be nuked exactly listen to this shit.

Speaker 3:

Hey, kev, there were. There was a comment on our tiktok. Yeah, we have tiktok too. Some way, some lady goes. When I we did the, I posted the. Uh, you know, latinas have the license to kill because of reputation I saw that one, yeah yeah, she, yeah, she commented us. Apparently, from looking at this, some people need a license to have a podcast. And I laughed and I go hmm okay, 26 years of major market morning radio, does that qualify? Yeah right, and she goes apparently not.

Speaker 6:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

And then I just at that point I said hey, I, hey, I said snowflake, this, this shit ain't for you. Yeah, you can't win that, you should run along yeah, can't win that this is not gonna be for you not, not even the slightest, and and we know that too, I mean, we know, hey, man, this is not for everybody.

Speaker 3:

The last thing we're going to tolerate are people who feel that they should speak for everyone in regards to you know what can be posted and broadcast and said and what can't be posted and broadcast and said. That that is. I have no tolerance for.

Speaker 2:

And going back to what we said earlier in regards to EO's comment, that this is what we used to do behind the scenes in the, in the, in the radio studio. You know, Tim and I have always and Tim succinctly, uh uh, categorizes this as it's our clubhouse and we talk in our clubhouse and we invite you in, and if you want to hang, that's awesome. But if we're making each other laugh, we think that somebody else is going to laugh too, Right, and so for those of you that do laugh and stick around, God bless you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3:

And if it's not?

Speaker 2:

if it's not your cup of tea, hey, totally cool man, I have no qualms with it whatsoever, but don't try and tell us.

Speaker 3:

Well, I always, I always laughed at the people who said that's funny, that's not funny. That's who the fuck are you to be the ultimate judge of what's funny and what's not funny?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, if you talk subjectivity, humor is the most subjective thing on the planet.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, I mean, Kev. I've been to comedy shows. I was at the Bill Burr show in San Antonio a couple of years ago Freaking hilarious. I'm laughing my ass off, my date is laughing her ass off, but there's some people just sitting there stoic like I don't get it. That's fine.

Speaker 2:

I watched the Bill Burr comedy special on Saturday evening. It was a 20-minute special he did on Comedy Central and it was early because he had hair. And I got to tell you, tim, you got me turned on to Burr, but I got to tell you, in this 20 minutes you could actually see the progression of his professionalism. He started out in this like it was almost like I'm not going to say nervous, but there was a, there was a different energy at the start than there was at the end and he, you know you could see it growing throughout this 20 minutes and man, he, he had me slayed at the end of it oh, he's awesome yeah I mean he's a total professional and and, believe it or not, you know there's some people.

Speaker 3:

I mean you said it initially when I told you like three, four years ago, I said bill burr is the best of the best. You're like I don't, I don't, I don't like him.

Speaker 2:

I don't get it. I didn't get him at first, I just didn't, you know and that's and that's fine.

Speaker 3:

I mean, some people won't get you Totally, but the thing I hate the most are the people who are like you are. You can't say that you're not funny. You don't. Who's to say what's funny and what's not funny?

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 3:

You know, one of the funniest things Kevin and I ever saw was one of our knuckleheads bombing on stage at the improv. Everybody at the improv that we're watching were mortified at how bad it was. We loved it. We did. It's hilarious to us, so just let people have their way.

Speaker 3:

There's some people that I can't stand. I don't think they have good comedy, I don't think they're funny, but I would never go into a comment or something like that and say this person shouldn't even be making money. That is just that is to me. You are so full of yourself. You are such an egomaniac that you think you have what it takes to tell everybody else what to think and what to like. That's evil and unfortunately we see that in our media a lot. We're going to tell you what you can like and what you can say, and we don't give a shit about your rights. And this is what needs to be said and cannot be said. And no, fuck you, dude, Fuck you. That's all I have to say. And no, fuck you, dude, Fuck you. That's all I have to say.

Speaker 2:

He doesn't feel strongly about that.

Speaker 3:

I've always been that I will give my cap, and I've said this, and you heard me say this many times. Probably I will give my life, so anybody on planet earth can say anything they want without fear of repercussions. Freedom of speech. If you won't do the same for me, fuck you. That's what I have to say there you go okay, you know, give me that freedom.

Speaker 3:

I give you that freedom, like, like, even politically, kev. I have no problems with politicians or people like that that are standing in front of a camera and they have armed guards protecting them and they say well, we want to take your weapons. We fucked the second amendment. We want to disarm America. You know, I think it's pretentious as hell that you say that when you're protected by people who are armed. But you have a right to say that and I will give my life so you can have that right without fear of repercussions. Now, once you do something as a lawmaker that inhibits the Second Amendment, well, now you've committed treason to me. You are garbage because you're taking away rights, particularly when you have that same protection yourself. You know what I'm?

Speaker 2:

saying I'm following you. Yeah, I'm following you.

Speaker 3:

Talk about it all you want, say whatever you want. I have no problems with people who are completely the opposite of me politically. I have no problems with people who are completely the opposite of me politically. I have no problem. Say anything you want you know.

Speaker 2:

that's how learning comes about. That's how the conversation comes about.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, and, kev, I can be convinced otherwise. I'm not so closed minded that you can't like persuade me in your direction, so close-minded that you can't like persuade me in your direction. But if I have an opinion and you just scream at me and tell me I can't have that opinion, and call me names and stuff, like there's no back and forth no, there's no education there like, like growing up, I remember, kev, I used to have these great intense political discussions with people who saw things completely opposite of me and they were gentlemanly, they were cordial.

Speaker 3:

At what point it's like you don't believe in the same things I believe in. I want you dead. I want your job to be taken away from you. I want you to be canceled. You should be obliterated from the planet. That's insane, dude. You're now in a cult. You're in a cult.

Speaker 2:

I have never understood. Cancel culture, never, I mean, because if you go far enough back, everybody can be canceled.

Speaker 3:

Everybody dude. And how many times did you see that these people cancel this person and then they go back into their own tweets. People go back in their own tweets and go. You mean, like what you said three years ago in a tweet.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Kev, let he or she who has never sinned cast the first stone.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 3:

If you have never sinned fine you can say it, otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2:

The other thing, too, is at what point did we become more concerned about the other person and took the focus off of us? You know why are we so concerned about what the other person is doing, as it, as it infringes on us?

Speaker 3:

You know, like like exactly. You just worry about your own thing, man.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 3:

That's what. That's what. Why are you so zoned in on other people and what they're doing? Man, if you put that kind of energy in yourself, your productivity and stuff like that, god only knows where you could be today. Yeah, but you're so zoned in on being the sheriff. You know I'm gonna be the sheriff and stop people fucking. That's crazy. So I didn't think I'm going to be the sheriff and stop people Fucking that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

So I didn't think we were going to get to this or talk about this today, because I didn't even bring it up to you as far as battle plan goes. But what we're talking about, I would love to get your opinion on this. I would love to get your opinion on this. I read a story over the weekend.

Speaker 6:

She's the mom accused of creating deepfake videos to trash her daughter's rivals on the cheerleading squad. Last year, several parents were sent videos and anonymous texts complaining about their daughter's behavior on social media. This one appears to show a cheerleader vaping. Prosecutors called it a deep fake. Prosecutors now say they have no evidence that she faked any of the videos and dropped that charge, but she still faces a criminal trial for harassment over text. She allegedly sent other parents complaining about their daughter's behavior. It's impacted my life in so many ways, from losing jobs, friends, family.

Speaker 3:

It's basically living in a complete living nightmare that you just can't get out of it's not her position to do anything, exactly yeah if you're gonna be raped what she sewed if you're gonna be a busy body you know you're you're opening yourself up to backlash that's right and you should never have gone after you're going. You're an adult going after a child, you're a. You are a piece of shit for doing that.

Speaker 2:

Well, she says she did it because her daughter was uh was not being elevated in the who gives a fuck man. There you go.

Speaker 3:

Who cares? It's not about you or your kid, it's about you just declared war on a child as an adult because of my little girl can't do it on her own. Yeah, fuck you and the daughter's.

Speaker 2:

Like mom, I really wish you wouldn't have done this, because now I'm going to college and people are bringing it up you know I'm waiting for that tsunami to hit. Which tsunami is that?

Speaker 3:

kids become adults and they look at the shit that their parents did on social media, the embarrassing stuff, the video of them being disciplined, and they just say I'm gonna sue you, mom. I mean, I'm literally being destroyed on campus here because of the shit you did on social media. You because you wanted hits and you wanted attention and I'm waiting for that. I'm just like the first like set of lawsuits where you know somebody sues their parents for a hundred thousand dollars because they're being tormented about what their parents posted.

Speaker 2:

There have been stranger lawsuits from kids and parents before.

Speaker 3:

I think that that is a wave that will eventually hit.

Speaker 5:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

Where you know some of these moms and dads are so into. I want clicks, I want attention, I want people talking about me, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

That they don't think ahead where my kid's going to see this shit one day.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, If we've learned anything with cancel culture, it's that they'll go back a long, long way to try and, you know, get rid of you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I? I mean, you know, post your child's victories. Yeah, don't, don't not embarrass your child.

Speaker 2:

She embarrassed herself and this child.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's just, it's just insane. I mean that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a twisted human being and it, it it.

Speaker 2:

it got her, uh, in some way. I mean, karma's always going to dance, oh for sure. Oh, it did get her in big way. She can't even go out in public anymore. You did that to yourself in her little community. Yeah, she did do that to herself. You know, if you're, if your kid's getting messed over in the club, I get it. You want to stick up for that kid. But you don't do it that way. Here's how you do it. You go to the coach and you say, hey, what did my kid do wrong? What can my kid do better?

Speaker 5:

Did I do?

Speaker 2:

something wrong and then you find out what the kid can do or what you did you apologize for it Exactly. And you get your kid more training, that's it.

Speaker 3:

You don't like I'm going to take down the competition. That's nutbaggy. That's what I thought too. That's nutbaggy. I mean, that's like to me, Kev. When you look at it it's like, okay, I can't beat this guy, he's going to spank us, so let's throw the entire justice system at him and try to take him out. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

I think I know what you're saying.

Speaker 3:

It's happening right now with Trump.

Speaker 2:

That's what I thought you were saying.

Speaker 3:

We can't beat him his message he fills stadiums with more stadiums of people waiting to see him. We got a clown who can't even walk and put a sentence together. That can't fill a fucking lunchroom with a speech, so we're going to use the justice system as a weapon to try to destroy him. That's going to come back on these people in a big way someday.

Speaker 2:

Karma's always going to win. Yeah karma's always going to win and there's always going to be a backlash. When you make decisions to do something or not do something, what weighs on that decision the most? What goes into that decision the most?

Speaker 3:

I always try to, especially lately, after I've become a big meditator, as I try to think of every angle. I try to think of a four dimensional chess. I put myself in the other person's position. I think about. You know where they're coming from, what their. You know what their stance may be, what their outlook may be. You know why they may have done, what their outlook may be, why they may have done what they did. I try to just completely look at everything and then make a non-emotional decision, a smart decision.

Speaker 2:

It's very difficult to take emotion away from decisions, and so you're able to do that. Congratulations. That's amazing. But yeah, I'm always thinking about the karmic angle.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly. How can this come back on me?

Speaker 2:

Right, and if it's negative karma, I just leave it alone.

Speaker 3:

Like, like, kevin, you know, the people who have wronged me and chumped me and shit like that, I just, I just know, and I on some occasions I've seen the karma hit them, and the ones who hasn't haven't been hit yet.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it's just a matter of time hit them, and the ones who hasn't haven't been hit yet. I mean, it's just a matter of time but do you get? Satisfaction when the karma does hit them, or are you like?

Speaker 3:

I know yeah, right, I I, I I get past things very quickly yeah, he does I'm zoned in on. Hey, what do I have to do? What I don't, I don't, I don't bother myself with, with you know, detractors I just don't yeah, because then you feed the beast yeah exactly then. That's how they really win. That's how they win when they got you exactly, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that person that was talking about you on tiktok they wanted to engage because they were getting their rocks off on that, and when you don't engage with them, they're like shit, I lost yeah, I couldn't get them going, damn it.

Speaker 3:

And then I can't remember, when we were 20, something you know, somebody would send us an email or a comment or something like that, and we'd get pissed off. We'd go back and forth and I'd be like why are we doing this?

Speaker 2:

What wasted energy and time.

Speaker 3:

Yes, we could have. We could have prepped another bit for the tomorrow show instead of. You know, I gotta have an, I gotta have the last word.

Speaker 2:

So I was talking to uh, uh, this was a while back. I was talking to Ozzy's bass player, okay, and we were talking about human nature and he actually we were talking about negative reviews and he was like Kevin, he goes. I was actually on stage once and somebody yelled from the crowd you guys suck, and it's a full, it's a packed house. And the lead singer actually stopped the set so that he could confront this person that said you guys suck. One person in the crowd said that the rest of the crowd is just so gaga over us that they can't even sit down and he said we stopped the set to deal with this one person and we late, we, we negated all the positive people that were there. Yeah, I was like, wow, that is interesting. We don't really. We, we give so much attention to the naysayers that we kind of overlook the people who are exactly fans and they're to support us.

Speaker 3:

I mean after fans and they're to support us. I mean after the song was over. You could have gone. Yeah, we suck huh. Uh, we're gonna get on our airplane private jet after this and, who knows, your girlfriend may be getting on with me to blow me if it's motley crew, it is exactly we learned that in the last episode motley crew. They will fuck your girlfriend. Have you watched dirt yet? Not yet not yet watch it damn it, I will, I will.

Speaker 2:

Well, I trish. Uh is into this. Uh, 1883, is that the name of it? The prequel to a yellowstone? Okay, yeah, they're all. They're all into that I can't watch it ford no, no, no. Uh.

Speaker 3:

Tim mcgraw, faith hill oh, tim mcgraw, that's right yeah, Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, yeah.

Speaker 2:

so they're all into that. I'm not big on the period pieces. I mean, I know what happened. They got in a wagon, they went west, they had some Indian scraps and you know what? Some made it, some didn't.

Speaker 3:

Exactly, it was a rough life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Some of them got an arrow in their head.

Speaker 5:

Some of them got scalped and there's no 18 year old that looked like Elsa back then.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, no, effing way man.

Speaker 3:

That's so funny.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. So I, I, I'm not, I'm not totally into that.

Speaker 3:

I get it All right. This has been a fun episode, Kevin Klein. I got to wrap it up. I got to go do some stuff.

Speaker 2:

You're not working out cause you're not wearing a sleeveless, so no, no, no, oh.

Speaker 3:

How is your shoulder? 12 days and kev, I still have it. I still. I really want to make sure it's healed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's smart can you do other exercises other than that?

Speaker 3:

I. I do a lot of cardio okay uh and a lot of stretching yeah I just I kev I. The reason why it is where it is right now is because I didn't pay attention to it. So I mean, yeah, it's 12 days and I'm mentally freaking out and I think I'm losing everything, but I'm really not.

Speaker 2:

No you're not.

Speaker 3:

But it's been 12 days and that's the most I've gone without lifting since probably 2006.

Speaker 2:

Can you do pushups? Can you do anything with it? Uh-uh, really.

Speaker 3:

Push, really push-ups, hurt anything over the head, anything like that.

Speaker 2:

You know I could probably do curls, but I just I'd want it to heal does it feel torn or anything?

Speaker 3:

I don't think it's.

Speaker 2:

It could be I don't know if you could raise your arm that high if it was torn.

Speaker 3:

I'm not sure I, I, just I when it, when it tells me it's done, then I'll go back to it okay otherwise I'm just gonna you know and I need the executive producer of the TV show we start shooting next week. Really, yeah, and he even said. He said, yeah, you got to lean out. Oh, okay, you got to lean out. So I let you know. Later this week I'll be fasting a lot and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

Tell us about the show that. Where are you shooting? Are you shooting in Houston or are you shooting in Nashville?

Speaker 3:

In Houston.

Speaker 2:

And uh, can you, Can you divulge the?

Speaker 3:

Not a single thing, not a single thing.

Speaker 2:

Are they going to be hour-long programs, 30-minute programs?

Speaker 3:

I believe hour-long, which is 44 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because they've got to have room for commercials.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'll tell you more when I can. We'll go over all of it.

Speaker 2:

Can't wait. You excited.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, dude, I can't wait to get this thing done. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. It's going to be nationally syndicated TV show. It's going to be cool.

Speaker 2:

Are you shooting one episode a day, or are you shooting?

Speaker 3:

I have no idea.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 3:

I have not gotten a shoot sheet or anything like that, yet I can imagine later this week I'll get one.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. Well, I'm looking forward to it, yeah.

Speaker 3:

And he loves this podcast to our executive producer and he wants Kevin and I to do a project together which we're not going to talk about right now, but Kevin and I may be on TV together sometime in the future.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, where Tim has to lean out right now for his TV exposure. I need to get better looking. Don't know how.

Speaker 3:

Kevin's on a completely different program. Yeah, I can imagine Eddie the producer going to go. We're going to have to deep fake the shit out of that one.

Speaker 2:

Going to need a wider angle for the nose.

Speaker 3:

Hey, just insert David Hasselhoff's face.

Speaker 2:

Germans love him.

Speaker 3:

We want to be big in Germany. All right, if you love this podcast, we love bringing it to you. Make sure you like us, follow us, download us, subscribe, give us a rating, do all that stuff so we can continue to grow. We've got merchandise available. Go to the title incline facebook and get our neat ass merchandise which is here on the screen. Uh, kevin klein, what do you have coming up this week?

Speaker 2:

uh, it's a really interesting episode of the fuzzy mic Mike, my other podcast, and it's with a guy that I grew up watching play soccer at my high school alma mater. He's 10 years older than me, he went on to become a professional and he played for the US national team. His name's Jim Tegens, but what I talked to him about is not about soccer. It's about two heart transplants, a kidney transplant, two battles with cancer, 14 battles of pneumonia, a toe amputation and near lung collapse, dude that's what he's faced his entire life.

Speaker 3:

This guy cannot be killed.

Speaker 2:

He cannot. But his dad was killed at 32 from a heart disease. His sister was killed at 32. His other sister died of heart-related cancer. And he's kicking it, man, Wow. So when you think you've got it rough.

Speaker 3:

Do you think when he walks past people he's like, hey, can I borrow that heart when you're done with it?

Speaker 2:

No, the heart that he has right now is from a 22-year-old military veteran who ended up committing suicide and he got his heart and his liver, his heart and his kidney and he is friends with the mother and they go to the grave site together every year.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's wonderful.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, it's a great. That's a great episode. So if you listen to it, I think you're really going to get a lot out of it.

Speaker 3:

Well, that is the fuzzy Mike podcast. Kevin Klein's a side project. Go enjoy that, kevin Klein. I'm out of here. Have yourself a great week, my brother.

Speaker 1:

That's it for this episode of the Tuttle and Klein Show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode. Also, you can catch Tuttle on TV. He is a handsome man, and you can get more Klein on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.

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