Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
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Ep #11: We're 1st Round Draftees...But In What? We Reveal Magical Places & Our Harrowing Stories of Survival
Ever chuckled at the thought of drafting JFK assassination experts or felt the cringe of a celebrity encounter gone awry? Our stroll down memory lane brings you Kline's discomfort while talking with biggest celebrity crush, Gwyneth Paltrow and other categories in which we'd be first round draft choices.
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As we draw the curtain on this whirlwind episode, we bask in the glow of Bill Murray's improv mastery and the thrills of the Masters at Augusta and the Indy 500. Weaving through tales of majestic Grand Canyon treks and the historic charm of Notre-Dame, we reminisce about the moments and places that leave us in awe. And if you've ever pondered the perfect sunset or the lure of Red Rocks Amphitheatre, join us for a reflection on bucket list destinations that redefine the beauty of experiencing life's grand spectacles.
Tune in for a rollercoaster ride of laughter, introspection, and the simple joy of shared experiences.
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show.
Speaker 2:What's going on? Tuttle Not much.
Speaker 3:I was having a back and forth with one of my Little League teammates from Wisconsin oh, yeah, yeah, he moved down to the South about a year ago and he goes. He moved down to the South about a year ago and he goes Tuttle. I cannot believe how many homeless people there are in the South. It's unbelievable. We didn't have these huge, huge problems with homelessness in Wisconsin and I was like, yeah, wisconsin officials had the greatest game plan for homelessness. It's called winter, exactly, totally yeah. I was like dude, do you remember? I mean because he was one of the other guys, kev, when I was 13 years old, the coldest day in the history of Milwaukee, wisconsin, my brother and I delivered Sunday Milwaukee Journal the big, thick ones. Milwaukee Journal newspapers 85 below zero windchill factor.
Speaker 2:And you were out there delivering.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he was one of the other ones too. There was like six of us in the entire city of Milwaukee that delivered. The rest of the guys said I'm not going to die.
Speaker 2:Your dad was driving you around right. So what would you do? Get out of the car, take it up to the porch and then come back.
Speaker 3:Come back and warm up in the car To do about 120 papers.
Speaker 2:It took us seven hours, yeah yeah. By the time he got done, the next day's issue was out.
Speaker 3:Exactly, but I will tell you this it was right around collection time and the tips were the all-time greatest tips, because they remembered that.
Speaker 2:Of course. I mean you're risking your life to give them the daily news.
Speaker 3:Exactly. But yeah, we didn't want to do it, todd and I were. We were actually in the garage, kev, stuffing the coupon section into the rest of the paper and we were freezing in the garage covered, and we're like Dad, this is not going to be safe. And my dad you know being who he is, you know World War II veteran then grew up in the Great depesas like people need to get their newspapers.
Speaker 2:Let's go, that's right way before. The internet can't just sit around not reading anything exactly exactly.
Speaker 3:They'll have to talk to their wives and stuff. Come on, let's go nobody wants that, nobody wants that, let's go anyway. I thought that was funny. He finally dawned on me. He goes. Oh yeah, you're right, it's probably really hard January in Milwaukee being a homeless person. Yeah, at that point I'm just going to get a job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really.
Speaker 3:Kevin, the NFL draft was this weekend.
Speaker 2:How much of it did you watch?
Speaker 3:You know what's so cool? I had dallas and timmy and both of them were in football. Dallas particularly, you know, from the general manager point of view, because he plays madden a lot where they're, where he's essentially a general manager. He has drafts and trades and all that stuff, so he's so into it. So I'm like this is awesome and he knows more about things than I do, you know. He's like it looks to me like the New Orleans Saints got a great deal in Spencer Rattler right there. I think he's got some potential to be a starting quarterback someday and picking him up in the fifth round will be fantastic. Dad, I'm like you, the man.
Speaker 2:There you go. You know why Rattler dropped to the fifth round.
Speaker 3:Because of his Netflix. Yeah, when he was in high school I saw that, I saw that whole series. That's why I've all I've always kept an eye on him, because I watched that uh-huh, uh, back in the day when it first came out, you know, because he was the same graduating class as audrey okay, so what if you're not familiar with it?
Speaker 2:it's a netflix special that followed spencer rattler, who was quarterback for oklahoma university, then switched over to south carolina and he was what In high school.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was in Pinnacle High School in Arizona. The top prospect, quarterback prospect in the nation, could go anywhere, but the cameras followed him around and when you follow a 17-year-old around, you got to remember he's 17. Yeah, and he had some maturity problems and he would badmouth teammates behind the scenes on camera about dropping passes and he had some problems with, you know, spencer Whoppers not telling the truth and all that. So, yeah, it just shows. And who among us was mature enough to have a reality series when they were 17 years old beyond?
Speaker 2:reality, exactly what I was going to ask you. What, at 17 or 18 years of age, did you do that could come back to haunt you now?
Speaker 3:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:We all did something. We all did something.
Speaker 3:Kevin, that was my getting arrested all the time year two, when I was 17.
Speaker 2:Yes, that is.
Speaker 3:So I, that would just be, and I would, I would literally be a pariah. I would be toxic in any, any work situation.
Speaker 2:Getting you know, you know, I'm saying yeah, oh no, exactly, I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, I think dal's right that, uh, that the saints got themselves the value pick there and and the way he's talking about it, you know he's, he's very poised, uh, in the pocket even when it gets muddy. Dad, and he, even though he's a little smaller, not quite six one, he does have a very strong arm and is able to, you know, complete his reads and I'm like wow.
Speaker 2:Hey, that could be a career for him. He could be the next, like Mel Kiper jr.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I, something like that. But I was like I'm like, no, this is a different ball game. I'm loving this now. Now, if I could just get one of my kids to love golf, that's all I need and that's game over. Uh, anyway, kevin, I was thinking of this when we were watching the draft.
Speaker 6:Um, doing the draft this way is a new experience for all of us.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you a couple of things that I think that you would be a first round draft pick in. Obviously you're not going to be a first-round draft pick in the NFL, right yeah, you're way past your peak there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the days of a 5'9", 180-pound wide receiver, yeah they don't need that. No, uh-uh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, edelman was a freak, Exactly. And then you're going gonna tell me some things. Obviously I'm past my peak too, even though I've declared my you know eligibility for the draft since, uh, graduating college you know, every year he's declared his eligibility. That's why you don't see him playing college anymore yeah, I still have four years of eligibility, some eligibility. I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2:No, no, uh all right, are you ready for yours? Uh, I'm scared, but yeah, go ahead these are, uh.
Speaker 3:Kevin klein would be the first pick in the draft in the following categories it's now my honor to announce that the draft is officially open. Uh being uncomfortable taking a compliment oh yeah you don't like it no, I don't no, you don't, you don't like it because you, for some reason, you have in your mind okay, that's the setup. Now where's the punchline exactly?
Speaker 2:am I right?
Speaker 3:oh, you're totally right, yeah all right, you want to throw one at me. We'll do it forth.
Speaker 2:Definitely I have you as a high first round draft pick in the category of being able to do math in your head. Oh yeah, oh, my God, dude, you're a freak.
Speaker 3:I freaked my kids out, you know, yesterday, when you know I quickly added it up, you know multiplication or something like, something like 217 times 12 or something like that. I was like and they were like that's crazy dad yeah, no, it is, it's freakish yeah, okay, good, uh, kev, you would be a very high pick.
Speaker 3:As a matter of fact, they would probably trade up for you, uh, if uh, in the category of stuttering and stammering, trying to talk to a beautiful woman in the same same room, that would, that would kill you oh shit, dude, I I couldn't do it in high school, and it's just a trait that has stayed with me until you know, even now I've actually seen kevin klein's the only person, um, you know, because obviously you have a a long radio career, like we did, we came across some very beautiful women to interview and entertainers and everything like that, and kevin klein would go.
Speaker 3:He's the only person I've ever known that could go into a standing fetal position. I mean literally just standing there with his head down, unable to even move. He would just be locked. And I'm there were a couple times I was like hey, hey man, hey, hey, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that happened, and it even happened during like phone conversations too.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I was like hey, kev, we're in Houston and they're in Los Angeles, california. They can't see you, or you know what are you doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:She's so beautiful though, I know right. Oh my God. I just loved her in the movie Seven.
Speaker 2:What's in the box. Yeah, up until that point. What's in the box?
Speaker 3:I'm talking about Gwyneth Paltrow. Kevin was very strange on the phone with Gwyneth Paltrow, Kev. You knew this was going to happen. Calm down, buddy. I was hoping it wouldn't. I'm so nervous for him. Your hands are shaking right now. I am literally dizzy. Gwyneth, are you there?
Speaker 4:I'm here.
Speaker 3:I just want to warn you ahead of time. You are actually. I don't care what anybody's ever told you in the last 20 years of your career.
Speaker 5:There is no human being on earth that is a bigger fan of yours than Kevin Kline.
Speaker 3:Nobody on earth. He has a shrine in his house of you. Oh, Kevin, thank you.
Speaker 2:You're more than welcome, Gwyneth. I can't even talk to you.
Speaker 3:It was disturbing. That was before we had webcam. We should have done our radio career on video, Kev. We should have done it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's kind of what we're doing now, I know. With the podcast you know, seriously, I know All right, I know it was a podcast, you know, seriously?
Speaker 3:I know, all right. What do you have me getting drafted in?
Speaker 2:I have you as a high, high first round, definitely top three in information about the JFK assassination.
Speaker 3:Probably behind Robert Grodin and Oliver Stone. I'm probably third Right there In that category. Yeah, stone, I'm probably third right there in that category. Yeah, yeah, and. And kevin. It started very, very early when I was 17 years old and they were trying to tell me that there was just one gunman and lee harvey had a shot right from the front straight on, probably 25 feet away, but we're gonna wait for him to turn and go away from us. What a bunch of bullshit. Just on that right there, I was like that is bullshit. Screw you, warren commission.
Speaker 2:17 years old at the same time, he was getting in trouble with the authorities and yeah, for some reason I was getting, I was getting arrested a lot back then too, which I know. It's your turn to go, but can I just say that I because this piggybacks very nicely you would be unquestionably the number one overall pick in questioning authority.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I pray. Yeah, dude, I'm not good with authority, I'm not.
Speaker 2:No, and it doesn't even matter what the authority is. Be it a boss, be it a I mean you're a boss. Be it, I mean you're respectful of law enforcement agencies, of course you're respectful of them. But yeah, anybody that has like a higher rank than Tim in life, he will question you.
Speaker 3:And that's it. I'm not, I'm not. I don't disrespect no, not at all. I will just question you and you know, unfortunately, authority does not like to be questioned, because they're not. They have the power and they're like who are you to question me? Well, I'm a tax paying citizen, mofo, you know, I'm a law abiding tax paying citizen. I have every. This country was built on that shit.
Speaker 2:That's why bosses usually came to me. Instead of telling Tim or asking Tim to do something because they knew that there was going to be a question me, instead of telling Tim or asking Tim to do something because they knew that there was going to be a question afterwards, instead of okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it was so obviously early on. I was like 18 years old. I actually joined the army to be a U S Ranger airborne Ranger and my dad was like you are not good with authority, this is not a good decision. And he made some maneuvers behind the scenes to get me out of it. I even did the oath and everything you know really, and I was getting ready to ship out like in two days and my dad's like no, no, no, no, no, no, go back to college.
Speaker 2:but didn't your dad instill this in you? The questioning of authority. You know don't take everything at.
Speaker 3:You know face value and stuff, but yeah my dad had a lot of long conversations with my father where you know he and he was a maverick too. You know he was a very intelligent man and was not the best with bosses himself. He didn't like. He didn't like people much less intelligent than him guiding him and managing him. He didn't like that. So it just became a thing. I was just like I. You know always question authority. You know always. And even if I was a, even if I was an authority figure like I, was a manager, I would actually like the people who who questioned I would like that you know. First off, it keeps you in check and second off, it shows that they care.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I absolutely have. I got one for you. Kevin Kline would be a first round draft pick, in being way too soon with the dark comedy.
Speaker 2:I will gladly wear that one.
Speaker 3:Kevin Kline almost immediately all the time, as evidenced by her our uh, our first podcast reunion back in February, when it happened the day after Toby Keith. And there's Kevin Klein with a Toby Keith joke. Yeah, that was you.
Speaker 2:That was me. Yeah, we weren't together when this happened, but, uh, I think the first one in recorded history to have a joke about Jeffrey Dahmer's dad dying. Remember when Lionel died?
Speaker 3:No, you don't know what was your joke.
Speaker 2:My joke was sad news out of the world of serial killers today. Jeffrey Dahmer's dad, lionel, died at the age of 87. Incidentally, that's the same answer gave milwaukee interrogators when they asked how many victims he cannibalized, saying I 87 oh, I get it.
Speaker 3:There you go, I get it. Good one, good one, good one. Still, though, kev, as good as that that one was. It's not as good as probably the all-time greatest in this category, the first round pick and goat, anthony jeselnik oh, he's the best yeah, when you remember the uh aurora, colorado, uh shooting the movie theater shooting yes, I like to make jokes about tragedies the day that they happen.
Speaker 5:The day they happen, I don't believe in too soon. I'm on a tight schedule and I'm good at it. I'm good at it, like the day of the day of the Aurora, colorado Batman movie theater shooting. The day it happened, I went online, I went on Twitter and I tweeted other than that. How was the movie right?
Speaker 2:it's like oh shit, dude oh shit, he's actually playing a casino an hour from our house. Coming up next month, I think you're gonna watch it. I'm thinking about going.
Speaker 3:I love that guy, no he's great, yeah, he's take no prisoners he just I, I, he's one of those. I just don't care. Yeah, I just don't care. Which you know what, which is kind of like what at least I and I know a little bit. You, you get a little queasy sometimes, though is what we're doing with our, our podcast. We're just like hey, man, you get to an age. You, you just don't care.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean we're going to rub. We're going to rub you the wrong way. We're going to ruffle some feathers, and you know what we?
Speaker 2:just don't care. But I got queasy when we did kind of stuff like, or when you did stuff like this on our on air, because I knew that there were ramifications. You know we were, we could be questioned by the box. Yeah, here we. We. We have basically no accountability except to you, the listener I know right.
Speaker 3:In all honesty, like brothers osborne said, you know we're good for some, but we're not for everyone there you go so those of you that are the sum.
Speaker 2:Thank you you Absolutely Thank you.
Speaker 3:All right, I think it's your turn. Kev, you got any more.
Speaker 2:I do. I have two more. Actually, it's kind of piggybacks on the math earlier, but for some reason you are able to recall significant dates like they happened yesterday.
Speaker 3:Yes, how do you do that? I just, I don't know, man, my brain is able to attach incidents and things you know, notable incidents, whether they be history, news or whatever, or things in my personal life. I'm able to attach a date.
Speaker 2:Well and, but like innocuous stuff, like sports championships in 1993. Oh yeah, you know, like that yeah 1993.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, oh, yeah, you know like that. Yeah, 1993, yeah, exactly, I mean that that was the year we had san francisco and dallas in the super bowl and I I, I think it was uh north carolina won the national championship with eric montrose see, that's what I'm talking about, right there uh, bill clinton started his first year of the presidency in that year and I'm if I can remember correctly, that was the year we had the David Koresh Waco incident also, so I'm pretty sure it was ballpark.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. See, that's why he's a high first round pick in that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kev, you are a very high first round pick in parody songs that piss off large groups of people. Yep, you just didn't care.
Speaker 2:I've oh that's funny that you bring this up, because I actually so one of the young ladies who is a cancer survivor and she works for Snowdrop now. Her name is Abigail. You've met Abigail before I know you have. She's a trained singer and she and I are working on a parody song together. Awesome, oh yeah, the one that nobody would ever green light for me. On 93Q.
Speaker 3:Oh, the Joaquin Yep, joaquin in Memphis Yep. I remember Kevin wanted to whip that out the first week we're on the air in, uh, may of 2005. Yeah, and I think it was, wasn't it fong? It was fong, yeah, fong goes oh hey, you might not want to do that.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah yeah, basically the gist of the song is and now it makes complete sense because it's about a Mexican guy who leaves the house and meets up with a caravan at the border and decides that he needs to get into the country, to go to Tennessee, because he's got a landscaping job waiting for him and he wants to be Joaquin in Memphis.
Speaker 3:Joaquin in Memphis.
Speaker 2:Thank you, cal, you're welcome. Yeah, and there goes our Hispanic audience.
Speaker 3:No, it was not that bad, no, but it's just. I guess Fong was saying hey, you guys are making your first impression. You don't want to whip that out the first week you're ever in Houston.
Speaker 2:The final thing I have you in and I've got you as a low first rounder on this, so hopefully that's okay.
Speaker 4:Bravado.
Speaker 2:Why I have you in and I've got you as a low first rounder on this, so hopefully that's okay. Bravado, why low? Because there are more. Like I was thinking about this, you know. I mean as far as like the top echelon of bravado, you're not as bad as like a world wrestling entertainment person or anything like that, so but but you do have a swagger.
Speaker 3:I, I always remember, uh, you know some like a comment that somebody had or something like that is like you always know, you can always see Tim Tuttle from across the way at the rodeo, because you see that walk and I didn't even know I had a walk. Oh, yeah, yeah, I never even knew that until then. And then I started watching some videos like, oh yeah, that's heavy douchebaggery there, I get it, I get it. Kev, you would be a very, very high pick if there was a draft for making cheesecake. Oh, kevin Klein making cheesecake Incredible man. Glad you liked it. And I know you had like a book of like a bunch of different ones, but I got a taste of probably about five or six out of that book and, boy man, that every single time is like holy shit, that's a good cheesecake.
Speaker 2:Oh, thanks.
Speaker 3:You know I usually. You know there were times that I wanted to punch you in the mouth but you know I never wanted to lose the cheesecake connection.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you know what, now that I know this, you should have dropped the helicopter. You should have never wanted to punch me in the face. You should have just said hey, klein, klein, bring in a cheesecake bring in a cheesecake tomorrow you fucked up.
Speaker 3:Bring in a cheesecake it would have got you out of a lot of trouble you'd have been making a cheesecake overnight, klein, yeah, exactly uh, speaking of trouble, Kevin Klein, we are in trouble here in Houston hot weather coming this summer, according to uh, all of the analysts and you know all of the individuals. At what is it? Noaa Kev.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well that. And then the National Weather Service just came out over the weekend with their prognostication about how bad the temperatures are going to be.
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Speaker 3:We got the phone number right here on the screen. We have their website link available. Kevin Klein puts it up on the page in the description here. So go ahead and make that move. Make it Air Innovations as we enter into the oven zone here in Houston the O-Z. I like that. The oven zone, kevin Klein. Yeah, the O-Z, I like that, the Oven Zone. Kevin Kline. Yeah, we had to cut our episode early last week, on a Saturday instead of our usual Monday, because you had to make a trip to Denver. Did you watch some Nuggets games? I mean Nuggets right now in the playoffs? Yeah, no, they did a pretty good job.
Speaker 2:They played the night before we got there and that was the buzzer beater the buzzer beater that they beat the Lakers on, and we did not make it for that. We were out there on Monday, the 22nd went out there because I was going to go to a concert at Red Rocks my first time ever a concert at Red Rocks.
Speaker 3:You're kidding Now. You did radio in Denver back in the early 90s, early in your career, but, you know, never had the opportunity to make it out to Red Rocks.
Speaker 2:Nope, because I was always seven o'clock at night to midnight, and that's when the concerts are, and so I never got to go to a concert at Red Rocks, and this was my first one. And then the following night we stayed in Denver an extra night, my wife and I, because we got together with Christine Noel.
Speaker 3:She was a former anchor here in Houston.
Speaker 2:Yep, kprc, channel 2.
Speaker 3:Sat in for Erica when Erica was on maternity leave with Timmy too, timmy Tuttle Jr and she was great.
Speaker 2:She's awesome, she's amazing, yeah, so I'm putting a picture up of us with Christine, her husband Jesse, and their little baby boy.
Speaker 3:Oh, she's got a baby now.
Speaker 2:Four months old.
Speaker 3:Oh, is she in the business anymore? Did she get out of the business entirely?
Speaker 2:She's out now. Yeah, right now she's out because you know she's a new mom and you know that's what she's devoting her time to. But I don't know. I think she probably has aspirations to get back into it. She's too good not to. Oh, she was, she was rock solid.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I was surprised that she got out, that she left. I was like, because she, she was one of those. She was set up to be, you know, the queen of news in Houston for the next 20 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, when Dominique left and she didn't get that slot, I think it shocked a lot of people.
Speaker 3:I don't understand that at all.
Speaker 2:I think it shocked a lot of people.
Speaker 3:I thought that that was just a gimme. Anyway, it's all politics and bullshit anyway, oh totally.
Speaker 3:That's one of those things where there's no more loyalty anywhere. None Trust me. Take it from me. No loyalty whatsoever. 17 years work my ass off. We become the number one radio station for country music in the United States of America. We dominate our competition throughout my entire career. We raise millions of dollars for charity. We go and we broadcast during hurricane situations that are swaying the building back and forth and causing the plumbing to pulsate, and some guy who hasn't even moved to houston yet hands me a single paragraph piece of paper from another guy who lives in Tampa saying we're not renewing your contract. That's it. Yeah, yeah, I'm like this is how you want to do it. It's a crazy crazy industry man.
Speaker 2:Okay, they gave you a paper that didn't even tell you.
Speaker 3:I walked in he said can I see you in the office? This was May 10th 2022. And I knew right then, because I'd seen it coming. You know this, uh, this new, uh manager. Um well, you know he. He showed us a parody song hallelujah, it's raining tacos. I thought that was the greatest radio ever and erica and I erica and caitlin and I were laughing at him Just what a cheese ball cheese dick he was. And you know, you know he's he's more 80s parody, hey guys.
Speaker 2:Oh he would have enjoyed walking in Memphis.
Speaker 3:Exactly. He would have loved it. So I knew it was coming that you know. Plus, in order for you to make your own mark as a manager, you got to get rid of Johnny Chang's main voice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I knew it was coming and I walked back there and I knew what it was. I passed Bill Tater. He was on the computer and I'm pretty sure he was wiping me from the computer at that time. Wow, because he knew.
Speaker 2:And he's not even there anymore.
Speaker 3:No, he took off and he brings me. Even there anymore. No, he's, he took off and he brings, he brings me in the office and said well, we're going to move in another direction. That's all he said. And he he pushed forward this piece of paper from Keith Lawless from Tampa. The guy isn't even based in Houston.
Speaker 3:One paragraph moving in another direction we're not renewing your contract. I was like wow, I was like that Is that? It Is that, that's it, huh. And they not even a word. He just, he just looked down, he didn't even look at me really yeah, did they escort you out the building? No, no, no, no no oh, okay I, I, um, you know, god bless her. She was crying. I'm forgetting. Why am I forgetting her name? Our, our hr at the time, sweetheart, what was her name Linda Lynn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she was there too. She had tears in her eyes and everything like that. God bless her.
Speaker 2:Oh, that is a wonderful woman.
Speaker 3:Beautiful woman, wonderful human being. She had tears in her eyes and she knew that this was wrong and the wrong way to do it, and she knew there was going to be a backlash. She knew it and there was man. That was. You know, the support I got was great, but yeah. Absolutely. There's no such thing as loyalty, as de Gaulle said. The French prime minister once said the cemeteries are filled with indispensable men.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, you look at loyalty. We could just take this back to the NFL draft. What in the hell were the Atlanta Falcons thinking? You don't sign a quarterback to four years, $180 million, and then go draft what is apparently supposed to be his successor at the eighth pick of the first round and not tell him, not tell him, not tell him until you make the pick I would have said hey, kirk you, hey we, we like phoenix, you're gonna groom him for three years.
Speaker 2:You would have done that you have to call him, tell him yeah, well, they didn't until they made the pick that that's why aaron rogers got pissed off of that.
Speaker 3:The packers with the jordan love.
Speaker 2:Nobody told him, wow, and they're like, hey, man could have used a weapon right there, okay but if you're the general manager or Dallas is the general manager apparently, do you really want to draft a quarterback with the eighth pick and let him sit for four to five years?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:Especially at his age.
Speaker 3:I don't like that I don't like that at all, I would get Kirk Cousins some weapons. Basically, you're saying to Kirk Cousins and the entire team as management for the Atlanta Falcons, you're telling them, hey, we're not going to do it this year, we're prepping for the future.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly what they're saying.
Speaker 3:We got a placeholder for a couple three years, and then this new guy will come in, and then we'll make our run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, good luck with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was one of the biggest head-scratcher moves I've ever seen in NFL draft history.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it goes back to loyalty. Nobody has loyalty really anymore.
Speaker 3:No, no, but back to your Denver trip, yeah.
Speaker 2:So we saw Christine Noel and her husband and her baby. But at Red Rocks we were so close, we were fourth row and we could literally hear the conversations between bandmates after each song. It was unbelievable. Oh, how cool is that? Oh, Tim, the sound there is amazing because it's all natural acoustics. It bounces off of the rocks that surround the stage and the venue. It was unbelievable. And because the acoustics are so good, you could actually hear me introduce one of the Cannibal Corpse songs. When I recorded it Shut your freaking mouth. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's hear it oh, wow, that's me doing death metal, boy that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:Do you think that they heard that? No, they know because they have their earbuds and everything like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can't hear it.
Speaker 3:They have little tiny monitors in their ears, kind of like what we have.
Speaker 2:Actually, our voice guy, zach, was with me. He couldn't even hear and he was standing right next to me.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, first off, because you're at that Cannibal Corpse, show your ears are ringing.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And you're in your own little tunnel vision zone anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2:By the way, zach said hi and he really loves what we're doing.
Speaker 3:Oh, has he been watching?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he watches it every week. Seriously, seriously, yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, well, tell Zach thank you very much. I appreciate the vote of confidence and love his voice work. When you hear the Tuttle and Cline stuff at the beginning and the end and when we do top three, that is Zach's voice.
Speaker 2:Zach Sheesh Yep from the radio farm. Welcome to the Tuttle and Cline show.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's cool, kev, I love that. So you had a good trip, a little getaway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, real nice, yep, good to be back. Good to get back to Denver. I hadn't been there since Christine's wedding two years ago.
Speaker 3:What does your wife Trish do while you're at Cannibal Corpse?
Speaker 2:She was back at the hotel doing snowdrop work.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, she was working. Oh yeah, gotcha, okay. Okay, kev, I got into another rabbit hole this past week. I was looking up kind of social media. Oops situations, Explain, I'll just give you, I'll let you know what the best one that I found is. Really to me, it's like unbelievable, it's hilarious. I'll just give you, I'll let you know what the best one that I found is really to me, it's like unbelievable, it's hilarious.
Speaker 3:This guy was trying to send his wife a dick pic on a direct message on Facebook. Instead of doing the message, it was the post. He posted it to her wall. Oh wow, and it was up there for three hours. My first thought is how is it up there for three hours? You got to have a friend on facebook that'll hit you quicker within like 15, 20 minutes maximum, so that'll tell you something about your friends if that thing's up there for three hours. Uh-huh, and a friend finally reached out and said hey, you're not going to believe what's on your wall. You need to take that down immediately Because it was getting likes and everything like that.
Speaker 2:Well, how many shares did it have?
Speaker 3:I don't know, it didn't say specifically, but it had been seen a lot via comments and likes, I bet and another aspect of it that made me laugh my butt off is is uh, is, uh. I guess the guy had a nice, what is it, son?
Speaker 6:I don't know, sir, but it looks like a giant dick. Yeah, take a look at a starboard. Oh my.
Speaker 7:God, it looks like a huge Pecker.
Speaker 8:Oh wow, wait, that's not a woodpecker, it looks like someone's.
Speaker 4:Private. We have reports of an unidentified flying object. It is a long, smooth shaft, complete with two balls. What is that? That looks just like an enormous wang.
Speaker 7:Pay attention, I was distracted by that enormous flying willy, yeah, what's that well, it looks like a giant johnson.
Speaker 3:So for the next few days women were, you know, on stuff, liking all of his stuff, messaging him. I mean he had to put everything on complete private, yeah, because it started to get bad and it was causing him marital strife. I mean, here's a guy who loves his wife. Things are still really good. He wants to send a pic to her and, you know, with some, you know know, little nasty talk makes a little bit of a mistake on how he posts it and you know, three or four days later he's on the rocks with the ladies.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, that is a big oops yeah, yeah, that's a, that's a big oops. And it reminded me of one. Um, that happened years ago. Somebody, uh, somebody uh, tagged me on a uh, on a photo, uh, or something like that. And you know when you're tagged you can read, you know what was on it. Well, some guy commented he didn't know that I was tagged on. It was like, yeah, that guy, I don't like him. He thinks he knows everything. Fuck tim tuttle, or something like that, you know, thinking he's just talking to his friends, you know, and everything like that. And I commented on it. Yeah, I agree, that guy's a dick.
Speaker 3:I could just imagine, like his thing, his response, you know. I want to get away, oh shit.
Speaker 2:I was like you messed that up, dude big time. But there's another thing that you could be a top draft pick for uh, not really caring uh about what people say I just don't man.
Speaker 3:And again, if you know who I know who I am yeah, I know I'm that guy. If you know who I am, yeah, I know I'm that guy and I continue to work on it, but the work in progress is very slow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't change overnight, yeah exactly?
Speaker 3:I mean, what do you want me to poof and be Fred Rogers? There you go. You know Ned Flanders? Hey, diddly, hi-ho, how's it going there? Simpsons no, it takes a little bit of time, you know, and I know mine's like a glacier movement for sure. Okay, speaking of messages, yeah, I want to throw this out here really quick because, while we're on the topic, people are getting really, really bold these days, like it is a different world out there, something that I'm just starting to experience that you may not even know is out there now. What is it? I got a DM. Woke up in the morning, got a DM the other morning. Now, usually, if a lady's kind of like making a move on me or something like that, I mean it's, it's a simple hey, Tim, uh, heard you're single. I think would be a good pair. Maybe we should get a coffee or something, and you know something like that. Okay, just something, really, you know, quick shot kind of break the ice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get it.
Speaker 3:And this is this is the second time something like this has happened with literally within the next, within the last, like the second time something like this has happened with literally within the next, within the last, like two months that I wake up and I check a message and here's the message listen to how bold people are getting. Hey, tim, my husband and I are both trying the lifestyle and we think you would be the perfect addition. We both agree that you would be a good bowl for us. Really, do you know what that means? Good bowl? What does that mean?
Speaker 2:I have no idea.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 3:I, I, I, I haven't. I didn't look it up, I was like B-U-L-L, oh B-U-L-L. Good bowl, I guess what really like, like tough, tough guy or something like that. Well, no, it probably has something to do with writing. Then she said I want to use you to cuckold my husband.
Speaker 2:I don't know what that is, but that's like an English word.
Speaker 3:I think it's a scenario where you know she's teasing her husband by getting with me in front of him.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I mean, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he says as a matter of yeah. Uh, and he says as a matter of fact. She says as a matter of fact, both my husband and I agree you would be a good bull for us, and he's even said he's never done anything with a man, but if he had to in a cuckold scenario, that you were one of the people that he would do it to. And I'm just like. I'm just like what? The'm just like what the fuck. I just woke up.
Speaker 2:Very flattered. Thank you, Don't swing that way.
Speaker 3:I was like I'm looking at it, I'm like what Do I have that? Look that I would be that guy, or something like that. You know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is bold.
Speaker 3:Hey, just couldn't you just ask for a coffee first?
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:Let's maybe go get a coffee and you know, maybe after the second mocha you bring up the whole cuckold thing.
Speaker 2:Then again, we are in an instant gratification era, you know. And why warm up the lights when you can just flip the switch?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Anyway, we're all meeting for a coffee in a couple days.
Speaker 4:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3:Or am I?
Speaker 2:Yes, he is.
Speaker 4:Yes, he is, yes, he is.
Speaker 2:That's funny, though. Did you reply? Did you respond?
Speaker 3:Uh, I have not. I mean, what do you say to that? I don't know, I I usually, when these happen, I'm. I always say you know, well, I'm flattered. That's very sweet of you. Yeah, but you, yeah, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but I don't even know how to do this one and I hate. You know, I'm that guy. You know how a lot of people don't return messages. You know they they have. You look at their phone and they got like a thousand unreturned text messages over the past couple of years or whatever. I'm not that guy at all. I have to do something with it and get rid of it. You know, either either trash it or move on. So I I just feel funny that it's sticking out there, that it hasn't been responded to, you know cause it was like Friday morning, but I don't know what to say, man. I just I don't know.
Speaker 2:You'd say something to the effect of uh, you know, very kind of you to reach out. You know timing is everything and my cuckolding days are long past.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I retired from my cuckold. Here's my retirement speech. I'm going in a different direction.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd like to thank, thank, thank, thank all of the fans, fans, fans fans for this unbelievable career, career, career, career career I had as a cuckold, cuckold, cuckold oh, excuse me, I'm not the cuckoo as a bull yeah, get that right. Yeah, we gotta get that right. That's because that's the last thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, if they asked me that for that one, I would answer right away, fuck you oh my god because I would, would always have, I would have the view on that one that you know, my dad's watching from heaven and going what the hell are you doing? Oh, yeah, about doing this, and something I think we're both fascinated with is improvisational moments in movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we started talking about this last week because we were talking about top three movie characters who we would want to play each of us, and I said Hannibal Lecter and that scene where he does the I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. Completely improv. It wasn't in the script, nobody knew he was going to do it. And then you said, when Indiana Jones took out the pistol and shot the guy that was whipping the sword around, yeah, that was improv.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and of course you know, harrison Ford also did the I love you too to Princess Leia in Star. Wars, yeah, and he was good. But Kev, do you know? I mean, harrison Ford is probably the second pick in the draft. In regards to memorable movie improvs, the first pick of the draft is Bill Murray.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Let me give you a little just a little bit of a laundry list here, please. First off, in the movie Groundhog Day, when he sees Ned Ryerson on the streets. Okay, you know, ned Ryerson, I missed you. I don't know where you're headed. Can you call in six, we can hang out. That whole thing was riffed by Bill Murray. Wow, and again, the guy who played Ned Ryerson did a great job. Seeing that, hey, I'm with Bill Murray, I got to go along with this.
Speaker 2:Well, it makes complete sense, because Bill Murray was with Second City Comedy Troupe and that's an improvisational troupe much like the Groundlings.
Speaker 3:And his whole speech in the movie Meatballs, the camp movie. Oh, I love that one. It just doesn't matter. That whole speech was riffed, sure.
Speaker 6:Mohawk has beaten us 12 years in a row. Sure, they're terrific athletes. They've got the best equipment that money can buy. Hell. Every team they're sending over here has their own personal masseuse Not a sir masseuse, but it doesn't matter. Do you know that every Mohawk competitor has an electrocardiogram, blood and urine tests every 48 hours to see if there's any change in his physical condition? Do you know that they use the most sophisticated training methods from the Soviet Union, east and West Germany and the newest Olympic power, trinidad and Tobago? But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4:It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. I tell you, it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 4:It just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter, even if we win, if we win, even if we win, even if we play so far over our heads, that our noses bleed for a week to ten days, even if God in heaven above comes down and points his hand at our side of the field, even if every man, woman and child held hands together and prayed for us to win, it just wouldn't matter, because all the really good-looking girls would still go out with the guys from Mohawk because they got all the money. It just doesn't matter if we win or we lose, it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 8:It just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter and you can see all the young actors who were playing.
Speaker 3:You know campers and you know, and camp counselors and stuff like that, just in awe that this guy is doing this out of nowhere Wasn't in the script. So that laughter probably is very genuine, then that oh yeah, had to be yeah, yeah, you know, basically, I guess they had a cut where it was much more benign. You know, hey, let's go, let's beat these guys tomorrow, type thing. And then the director goes, okay, bill, just riff something and did and it was just unbelievable Great speech. It just doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:It just doesn't matter. Great scene. There's got to be some in Caddyshack then.
Speaker 3:Oh, the whole Cinderella story.
Speaker 7:What an incredible Cinderella story. This unknown comes out of nowhere, so leave the pack. Ed Augusta, he's on his final hole. He's about 455 yards away To lead the pack at Augusta, he's on his final hole. He's about 455 yards away. He's gonna hit about a two iron. I say we got all of that.
Speaker 7:The crowd is standing on his feet here at Augusta, the normally reserved Augusta crowd going wild, reserved against a crowd going wild for this young cinderella who's come out of nowhere. He's got about 350 yards left. He's gonna hit about a five iron. Expect, don't you think he's got a beautiful back swing? That's oh, he got all of that one. He's got to be pleased with that. The crowd is just on his feet here. He's a cinderella boy, tears in his eyes, I guess, as he lines up this last shot. He's got about 195 yards left and he's gonna looks like he's got about an eight. This crowd has gone deadly silent. Cinderella story out of nowhere. A former grangeer now about to become the Masters Champion. It looks like I'm a wreck. It's in the hole. It's in the hole.
Speaker 3:Bill Murray was just like walking into position he was supposed to do like another scene and the cameras were rolling, they were doing a test and he just like grabbed whatever that thing was, that sickle or whatever it was and just started talking. And that whole thing was that sickle or whatever it was, yeah, and just started talking and that whole thing was never supposed to be anywhere in the movie. And Kev, that's just a small sample of Bill Murray, a lot of his Ghostbusters stuff, like when he said when they were at the mayor's office and you know, dickless here shut the whole thing off and now the ghosts are through there and the mayor goes is that true? And bill murray goes?
Speaker 6:it's true, he has no dick everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless. Here they caused an explosion. Is this true? Yes, it's true, this man has no dick that's a riff.
Speaker 2:How much of stripes do you think was uh?
Speaker 3:a ton. That whole speech of uh you know, chicks, dig me because I rarely wear underwear yeah, that is completely rift chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear and I do.
Speaker 6:It's usually something unusual. But now I know why I have always lost women to guys like you. I mean, it's not just the uniform, it's the stories that you tell so much fun and imagination. Lee Harvey, you are a madman. You are a madman when you stole that cow and your friend tried to make it with the cow. I want to party with you, cowboy, the two of us together. Forget it. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm going to volunteer my leadership to this platoon. An army without leaders is like a foot without a big toe, and Sergeant Hulka isn't always going to be there to be that big toe for us. I think that we owe a big round of applause to our newest, bestest buddy and big toe sergeant hulka wow yeah, he's, he's amazing yeah, I mean with him.
Speaker 3:It was the same thing with jim carrey too. You know those guys, you, you go ahead. Let's get in the can what we have on the script. We'll have that in the can, and then just let these guys go. Do another cut. Let these guys go.
Speaker 2:Well, it's the same thing with the entire cast of Best in Show or Waiting for Guffman. You know, none of that is scripted. The only thing that is scripted is blank, blank, blank. Goes into a hotel or goes into a hotel, checks into a hotel, Then you're on.
Speaker 3:And it was like. It was like one or two bullet points in terms of you know where we need this to keep the plot going yeah but everything else was freestyle same. It's the same thing with larry david's show. Curb your enthusiasm, really. Yeah, that that whole show is one bullet point, two bullet points per scene in terms of where they want to go, just to keep the plot going.
Speaker 2:Hey, as long as you have these elements to keep the plot moving forward some, and then just go you know a lot of people would probably say that, uh, the Tuttle and Cline podcast is much like that, because you know we don't script anything yeah, this is all improv too yeah.
Speaker 3:So I'm gonna say that Bill Murray, then Tuttle and Cline and Kev, you, you know I'm not going to disagree with you, I'm not going to be the voice of dissent on that.
Speaker 2:First round pick in bravado yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, another good one here, though Kev is and I didn't know this until I just watched it recently and was looking it up the movie the Godfather, where the guy who played Castanello when they had that, uh that hit that assassination when he said leave the gun, take the cannoli leave the gun, take the cannoli that was not in the script either that surprises me me. Yeah, because Francis Ford Coppola is usually pretty tight.
Speaker 2:That's what surprises me. Yeah, coppola, kubrick and, I would think, oliver Stone would be very, very strict as to what you can get away with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah, Kev Kubrick, we're going to do 400 takes and it's got to be exactly how I have it in the script. Yeah, which made which drove people crazy. I mean, there are people that only worked with him once.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you thought Jack Nicholson was playing a character in the Shining. No, he really was going mad.
Speaker 3:But that's one right there. Speaking of the Shining, here's Johnny.
Speaker 4:Here's Johnny.
Speaker 3:That's a riff.
Speaker 2:Well, again, most memorable part of the movie, probably, exactly.
Speaker 3:And you remember when Harry met Sally, when Meg Ryan did the fake orgasm.
Speaker 2:In the diner? Yeah sure. Oh.
Speaker 6:Are you okay?
Speaker 8:Oh, oh God, oh God, oh God, oh, oh, oh, oh God, oh yeah, right there, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh God, oh yes, yes, yes, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, oh, oh, oh, oh God.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'll have what she's having. Billy Crystal told the lady to say I'll have what she's having Really Was not in the script. Billy Crystal just said I think it'd be funny if she said that, don't you?
Speaker 2:and it ended up being one of the most classic lines in the in the history of movie oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's crazy because what we're talking about ends up becoming the most memorable part of of a movie. Yeah, what the improvisational stuff and kev bill bill paxton.
Speaker 3:You remember him, texas guy, bill paxton, uh-huh uh. He had a couple like memorable ones too when his first movie, real movie role he ever had was weird science, when he played the older brother chet yeah, he played chet yeah yeah, when, uh, you know, the boys had been drinking and were feeling a little queasy, he said how about a nice greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray? That was a riff. How about a nice greasy?
Speaker 4:pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray.
Speaker 3:But he also in the Aliens movie. He riffed game over man, Game over, Game over man, Game over, and that became a classic quote that people use all the time, Not just quoting a movie, that people just use it. Yeah and Kev, probably the best one ever, the most timely one. Roy Scheider, you're going to need a bigger boat.
Speaker 7:You're going to need a bigger boat 're gonna need a bigger boat.
Speaker 2:That was rift. That was rift. That is amazing. Yep, he did. They did not have that in jaws. It just goes to show how talented these actors and actresses are that can go off script and make it not only relevant to the scene in the movie but iconic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I was listening to the Smart List podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a great podcast.
Speaker 3:With Bateman and Arnett and. Sean. Hayes, they had Larry David on it recently and they're talking about the finale of Curb your Enthusiasm. And something interesting that Larry David said is yeah, there's a few people, a few actors that we hire that just they can't do this, they can't do this, and sometimes we have to cut them out completely. Sometimes we have to minimize their role and, yeah, obviously we don't invite them back. Their character kind of just dies out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, improv is a hard skill to learn so anybody that's like in that regular cast of curb your enthusiasm. Those are good improvisational and kev, you even said it, you know best in show. Oh yeah, those, those guys, I mean, those are incredible improvisational actors michael mckean, eugene levy.
Speaker 2:Uh, uh, katherine uh, I can't remember her last name, but oh, harrah katherine o'hara.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, great stuff and and who's the guy that the comedian when we were kids. He's a really good comedian. I'll poke your eye out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, with my thumb please this is what I do, please, honey. This is what I do. Don't be mad at him, please. I'll gouge your left eye out with my thumb. I shit you not, you freak, get down here right now.
Speaker 1:I'm going to punch you in the eye until it turns to jelly.
Speaker 3:Get down here. Yeah, these are really really brilliant and talented people.
Speaker 2:Much like you.
Speaker 3:Oh, thanks, kev. I didn't do as well as them. I wasted it, tim Tuttle, the greatest waste of talent in history. That's so funny, kev. I'm excited because this is really truly an opportunity for me to do some improv, because I don't know what's coming next. Do you have a top three?
Speaker 1:Just when you thought they couldn't count any higher. It's Tuttle Klein's top three.
Speaker 2:It kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier my first time at Red Rocks, so it's going to be the top three places you personally have ever been.
Speaker 3:Top three places that. I've ever personally been Well. Number one is Augusta. Yeah, I saw the Masters last year. We watched the, my ex and I. We watched the practice round on Wednesday and then the first round on Thursday, and I have never seen a more beautiful place in my entire life. I mean, it's just everything that you see on TV, times 20.
Speaker 2:I've heard that the difference in a practice round and the actual round is immeasurable with the access you have. Is that your experience? Is that true?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can get a little closer. Plus, we went to the Par 3 tournament the day before and just you know we were following Freddie Couples around. Okay, get a little closer. Plus, they had. We went to the par three tournament the day before. Ah, and just you know, we were following freddie couples around. Okay, the one of the most beautiful swings in the history of golf, and even at the age of like 63 or whatever, just smooth back, smooth through baby, smooth swinging freddie couples. But yeah, I got pretty close to him nice so I thought that was cool.
Speaker 3:But yeah, when the actual thing starts, it it's tight.
Speaker 2:You, you can't, yeah when you're at augusta do you get to drive down magnolia lane, or is?
Speaker 3:that um you can really but you know, we, we, uh, we parked, uh much further away okay, you take a shuttle or something no, it's nice, it's a nice, it's a nice walk.
Speaker 3:Okay, and it was just, it's the best. I mean, we, you know we were following a few groups, but the best was we went to the 15th hole and just sat there and you know that's, that's a par five where most of them go for it in two. And we were right there, where you can see, you know it hit, hit on the green and everything like that, and we we parked there for a while, drank some beer and had a good time.
Speaker 2:Neat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Kev, without a shadow of a doubt. I mean Augusta is great. I mean eventually I will definitely go every single year. Cool Number two Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Yeah, or the Indy 500.
Speaker 2:Nothing like a 500. Isn't that unbelievable? It's incredible, incredible I grew up.
Speaker 3:I grew up in indianapolis and I watched my first one when I was eight years old, 1977. Aj foight when he won his fourth one. My dad took my brother and I, todd, to the indy 500 and we went a bunch of times after that, before I moved away from Indiana, and even a couple of times since moving to Indiana I've gone up and watched the race. So I mean, that is the best experience.
Speaker 2:You took me to my first one and then I've been to two more after that. Yeah, isn't it the best. It's incredible, I mean, on many, many levels. It's incredible Number one, that you can fit that many people in one place. Number two when you leave, it's not crowded. When you leave, I mean it's just they do such a great job of getting you in and getting you out, but the spectacle that is the Indianapolis 500, unparalleled, unparalleled.
Speaker 3:The pre-race festivities are ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Dude, I watch it on TV and I still cry.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Just how amazing that is. You know it's Memorial weekend, so you have a salute to the soldiers, I mean. But just the flyovers are great and my brother one year did the flyover. Were you with us that?
Speaker 2:We were there yeah.
Speaker 3:We were there that year. Yeah, uh, my brother was, you know, blackhawk, uh, pilot in the us army and he did the flyover and they mentioned his name and everything like that, and you know he hovers over the start finish line with two other blackhawk guys, uh, on each side winging him, and that was just.
Speaker 2:That was a cool moment 2000 and because he's a tuttle and he doesn't like authority, he broke uh, broke the uh uh formation and did a flyby around the pagoda unfortunately for todd, he had to be the authority, so he couldn't do such things exactly you had to have.
Speaker 3:My dad had to have one Tuttle kid that followed orders.
Speaker 2:And then ended up giving them. Yeah, have you been following IndyCar this year so far?
Speaker 3:No, I have not. What do you know?
Speaker 2:I was just going to make an early prediction. What do you got About the Indy 500.? What do you got Penske's going to win?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's not going out on a limb.
Speaker 2:I think my two favorites right now I think Scott McLaughlin is going to have a great race. He's done really, really well in the last two races. And my dark horse just because he's not having a great season right now Pato O'Ward oh nice, but he usually. He usually shows up at Indy.
Speaker 3:Nice, I would just you know, I would just like to see an Andretti win.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't that be great.
Speaker 3:Just if Marco could pull it off. Yeah, if he could put it together and get a win. I mean, there hasn't been a win since 1969 by Mario and, believe it or not, michael never won, john Andretti never won. You know they had, you know you have. You have a uh uh, an Andre Andretti salad that is participated, but none of them's pulled out the victory.
Speaker 2:Nope, not since 1969, 54 years ago. Crazy, uh, 55. 55. Yeah, I was just thinking about my birthday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'll be november when I'm 55, so yeah, you're right again number one draft pick math I quickly did that for you, you're welcome thank you and I know that, uh, specifically my, my first wife, kathy, she was. She was born the day that Mario Andretti won, okay, and her dad, ed, watched the race first and then moseyed up to Yorktown to the hospital.
Speaker 2:Well, she wasn't the firstborn, so you know.
Speaker 3:Back then it wasn't as big a deal. Yeah, back then the dad would arrive. Whenever the dad would arrive, he'd be in the waiting room. He has to hand out the cigars.
Speaker 2:When I was born, my dad was across the street in the tavern drinking a beer and smoking cig Exactly.
Speaker 3:You know, with our generation. I had to be in there where the catchers met.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were All right, let's go, come on.
Speaker 3:Come on, audrey, come on, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then your third place would be what so?
Speaker 2:we've got Augusta, we've got Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm going to say. If I could have a tie, I want a tie. Yeah, sure, sunset at both places Key West and Sedona Arizona.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's nice. I just remember just being stunned at the beauty Probably give the slight edge to Sedona.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you said that, because I've I've seen both as well and it's just. I think the difference is just the many, many different colors that you get at Sedona.
Speaker 3:I, I, I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it now. Yeah, I was on mushrooms.
Speaker 2:Well, I wasn't, and it's still spectacular, okay I was.
Speaker 3:I was gonna ask you. You know, yeah, I was tripping balls. That looked really cool. So nope, you, you saw it okay, all right that's cool I didn't imagine it, it wasn't, I wasn't hallucinating. Uh, all right, kev, what are yours top three? Obviously, red rocks up there, right a concert at red rocks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you have never seen a show at red rocks, uh, my, my buddy zach, who took me. He's like you're going to church, dude. I'm like no way, yeah, way, it's, it's worshipful, it's amazing really. Yeah, yeah, it's just, it's stunning.
Speaker 3:Like, like, like better than Hollywood bowl. And well, those are mostly tradition. Those aren't as good settings.
Speaker 2:Yep, nope, you're right, those are tradition. Just, I mean, think about this is just natural. It just grew this way, it just came, developed this way and it's just like it's the perfect storm for for acoustics and there's not a bad seat in the house. Very, very.
Speaker 3:So it's not really a heavy construction thing. They just basically put it into the, into the rock. They carved an amphitheater into the rock, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is so cool. The only thing that's that's manufactured is the stage and then the rows of seats, the benches. That's it. That's it. Yeah, that is neat. Yeah, it's really cool. Oh, but make sure you're in shape when you go, because you have to walk a really, really long way and up a lot of hills.
Speaker 3:That's part of it though.
Speaker 2:At 6,500 feet.
Speaker 3:Do they have a warning?
Speaker 2:about that at all?
Speaker 3:no, they don't, uh-uh no so there's some people who may like struggle a little bit that are just getting halfway up there.
Speaker 2:I'm fucking suing everybody oh no, there's a lot of people that, uh, stop and catch their breath and then take another. You know 10 feet.
Speaker 2:Stop and catch their breath, yeah okay yep, yep, for sure all right, just hey, man, I mean you're the one who wanted the wanted all that cake, that's right well, the headlining band the night that I went was aman amarth and they're from norway and they got two songs in to the set and the lead singer went impromptu off script and he said hey, hold on, guys, before we get to the third song, he goes as musicians. You always hear about red rocks. No matter where you are in the world, you always hear about red rocks. This is the first time we've ever played red rocks. We're only two songs in and I can't wait to come back I love that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, we're the artists. I mean because I'm wondering, you know, obviously you as, as the audience, you can really take it in because you're seeing the rocks and everything like that. I'm wondering if the artists, the people performing, have that same kind of vibe too.
Speaker 2:Oh, they do. Yeah, they do, because you're right on top of them and there's, like I said, not a bad seat in the house and you know you're out west. So it didn't really get dark until nine o'clock and the headliner was already on by then.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah. So, that's cool. Do they have lighting? I mean, they have lighting in there, don't they?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do. Yeah, they have lighting. Yeah, here's a little video of Amon Amarth with the stage set and everything. Nice, yep, yep. But there's a they call it stage rock, and it's this massive rock behind the stage and that amplifies the sound too, so it's perfect.
Speaker 3:I love it. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, you sold me. Okay, I'm going to go.
Speaker 2:Good, you should Well let me know. If you want to let me know what show you're going to go, we'll go together.
Speaker 3:All right, man, let's do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we will.
Speaker 3:We could not stay in the same hotel room as you, though.
Speaker 2:No, no, we could probably stay with Christine. Oh, that'd be cool, even cheaper, christine, we just volunteered you. I haven't seen you in five years, but I just volunteered you. Second would be Notre Dame, the actual cathedral.
Speaker 3:Like not the South Bend campus.
Speaker 2:No, I haven't been there, but I've been to Notre Dame in Paris and I mean, I walked in and I just started bawling.
Speaker 3:Is that your Quasimodo thing too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, and we got to go up in the second level and I got to put my arm on one of the gargoyles.
Speaker 3:Ah, it's just, you put what your arm. Are you allowed to do that? Yeah, yeah you can.
Speaker 2:And then I sat in one of the second floor windows. I sat in it and it's my favorite picture that I've ever had taken of me here. It is right here. There's something magical about that that place, you know. And the day that it got caught on fire and the spear came down and stuff, oh my God, dude, I was crying like a baby. That day that sucked, yeah, it did.
Speaker 3:What happened there? What?
Speaker 2:happened with the fire? Well, they were doing renovations, but I don't know if it was renovations or I don't ever think a real cause ever was released.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was released, yeah interesting and then I got uh, two, uh, I was kind of in the same boat as you. I can't really pick uh if it would be the bottom of the grand canyon, but I think that's because so few people get to the bottom of the Grand Canyon. You know, the statistic is less than point and you'll know the actual point 0.0001% of the population. So what was that? 1,000?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean whatever figure you have, and then add one.
Speaker 2:Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that because I've never been to the Grand Canyon. It's definitely on my list. Why is it? Why do not don't people go down? Uh too much just too much of a walk well, just the uh yeah, so people don't.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's a sign that says do not attempt a day, hike down to the bottom and back up. Um, there's warnings all over the place, uh, and they actually have pictures of people who have died trying to do it. Um, but you go to. If you're going down the South side, the bright angel South side, you're going down 6,000 feet and then you've got to come back up 6,000 feet and, uh, it's uh, nine miles.
Speaker 3:So yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So if you're going to plan on doing it, it's a multi-day thing- Well, I mean no, I mean they, they, they tell you that I mean I've, I've run across, down, across and up the other side and down, across and back up in 17 hours. So I mean I've done a double crossing. Oh, tim, the the record's under seven hours. So I mean I've done a double crossing. Oh, tim, the record's under seven hours.
Speaker 3:Still, though, man, I mean, you know you did, you ran something that they advise you not even to walk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:That's 40. That was 44 miles, Um. But the thing is there's silver bridges down at the bottom and that's the bridge that goes right over the colorado river. And to just stand in the middle of that and look both sides and look up and realize how small we are oh yeah oh my gosh tim it's. It was so humbling, but so beautiful I bet, yeah, I bet okay yeah, you could easily make the hike.
Speaker 3:So I and I would. I would be just because of the fact that you said that little of people have done it. I'd be like well. I got to do this shit, then I got to be one of those. Yeah, yeah. No, it's very, very few people but I, are you allowed to like, spend the night.
Speaker 2:Uh, if you want to book a. Uh, if you want to book a, a spot at phantom ranch? Uh, they're probably taking reservations for 2026 or 2027 now.
Speaker 3:So I can't like take my own sleeping bag or tent or something like that.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't know if you can. I honestly don't know if you can. I don't think you can because I know, when I got trapped down in the bottom um the uh, the park ranger said we're going to let you stay here overnight. Uh, yeah, so you know, I, I don't, I don't think you can really.
Speaker 3:What was it? What was going on when you were overnight at the Grand Canyon, in the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2:Oh, uh, I I thought that I could do it faster than 17 hours. Uh, and you know the double crossing, they call it rim to rim to rim and I went out there in one of the hottest parts of the year and cut my electrolyte drink too much and I was completely cramped and I couldn't move. So it took me 30, took me, took me 32 and a half hours from start to finish.
Speaker 3:But what was the, what was the overnight like, what was that like?
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. So, um, uh, I, I I asked a park ranger. So I'm crawling up devil's corkscrew, all right, I'm literally crawling. And this runner comes by and he goes you're in bad shape, aren't you? And I'm like, yeah, dude, I'm like I ain't going to make it. And he's like, all right, I'll, I'll run ahead, tell the ranger that somebody's in distress and they'll come talk to you. I'm like, thank you so much.
Speaker 2:So I am crawling up this little, uh little park ranger girl comes out and she says so, you're the guy I'm looking for. Huh, I'm like, yeah, I said I know what the cost is. She goes, hold on a second. She goes let's do an assessment. Um, so we, you know, try and get me up. And every time she tries to pull me up off of my knees, I just completely seize. And so, uh, oh, yeah, dude, it was bad. It was bad. Wow, I had no electrolytes in me whatsoever. So, um, she gets this big ranger about your size, maybe a little bit heftier, uh, and he comes and he picks me up and carries me to a park bench at Indian Garden, and Indian Garden is three and a half miles from the top.
Speaker 3:How long did he? How far did he carry you?
Speaker 2:He probably carried me to football fields up a straight up hill.
Speaker 3:Wow God bless him man.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. And he says so we're going to put you on this park bench here. Just, I'm going to give you some corn nuts or some peanuts, whatever, and just suck, suck the salt off of them and spit them on the ground. Don't worry about the no litter policy we have here. This is a little bit different. I I'm like I just want to get out of here. Can you just call a helicopter? He's like what color is your pee? I'm like it's like kind of orange. Oh, you're fine, dude, you're fine. If you would have said brown, then we got a problem. But you're orange.
Speaker 2:I've seen people in worse shape than you get out of here on their own. So two hours pass, he's giving me some Gatorade, some peanuts, and I started spitting them on the ground and he says how are you doing? I'm like I still can't move. He's like all right, here's a sleeping bag. We're not even going to charge you for it. Just lay here in the sleeping bag and when you feel like you're ready to go, just roll it up, bring it back over to the shack and walk yourself on out. And so my friend Frank and I, frank stayed with me. We were trying to sleep on this park bench. He was on one and I was on the other and I just couldn't get comfortable. And all of a sudden I feel something scurry up my leg. I'm outside of the sleeping bag, using that as just a you know, not a cover, but as a mattress, and I feel something scurry up my leg, and it was a rat.
Speaker 3:Oh geez.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why you don't litter, because it attracts wildlife. Okay.
Speaker 3:So so the corn nuts. The rat was eating the corn nuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then scurried up my leg, wow. So I flicked that off and then I got in the mattress, I mean I got in the sleeping bag, and then I think I'm just about ready to fall asleep and bam, right on my head something landed. And I went and reached up and I pulled it off and it was a bat. No way, yeah, it was a bat. Are you kidding me? I am not kidding you at all. No, this is really true. And a bat landed on my head and I grabbed it and I flung it off and I said, frank, we're getting out of here. And so we crawled out and it took us nine hours to go six miles, wow. Or nine hours to go three miles, six thousand feet wow, that is so crazy man but the stars, oh my god, tim, it's like it's so many stars.
Speaker 3:You think it's fake, but it's not so if I'm gonna walk hike this thing, I just got to make sure I have a lot of electrolytes.
Speaker 2:Make sure that you're. You have a lot of fluid, but now when it's open, uh, you know, when it's like it's open now, uh, until probably September, uh, because you know you're at 6,000, 7,000 feet of elevation, it's going to snow a lot up there. They have water spouts every mile and a half that you can refill, but don't take a water bottle. Take a hydration bladder and make sure that you take like noon caplets or something that has electrolytes that can dissolve inside of it. So, yeah, I'll go with it. I mean, it's a magical place, my brother, I'd love to do it, man, you, yeah, I'll go with it.
Speaker 2:I mean it's, it's a magical place, my brother, I'd love to do it. Man, you should you should.
Speaker 3:I'd love to do it, but the only thing is I. You know I'm. I'm just going to fast walk it. You're a runner.
Speaker 2:Oh, I would, I would walk it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'd be much more pleasant to walk it, believe me, yeah, yeah, I'd be like yeah, yeah, cause you know my policy. If you see me running, there's something wrong with my vehicle. Pick me up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now, the Bright Angel on the south rim is nice, but if you really want the experience, you got to go north rim, you got to go north Kaibab Trail. That's 11 miles and it is 11,000 feet. I'm sorry, it's 9,000 feet up, so you go 9,000 feet instead of 6,000 feet, but you are. If you're watching this, I'm going to put a picture up, but if you're watching this on YouTube, I'm literally you're two feet. That's about how wide the trail is two feet and if you go the wrong way, you're dropping 2,000 feet to your death. Whoa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, I was hugging the wall. Oh my God, dude. Wow, yeah dude, I was hugging the wall. Oh my god, dude. Wow, yeah, how awesome is that that I now. Now I'm in, I know you are yep, you're an adrenaline junkie. That's a, that's adrenaline right there, baby yeah, and at that particular spot too, uh, I saw a rattlesnake get out of here I did yep, saw a rattlesnake damn man, you just you got the full experience yeah, well, I've done it four times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's. It is a spectacular place to go to the bottom of and then try and get out. Love it, yeah, I love it. I would do it with you in a heartbeat, bro.
Speaker 3:I really would. Well, duly noted, we got a little bit of a to-do to-do list, probably be about the only way trish would. Let me go back oh, she said she's like put her foot down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, after 32 hours stuck down there, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3:She wasn't happy with that, was she?
Speaker 2:No, and neither were the nine people that I went with that flew on a private plane and they were waiting for me to get out of there so they could all head over to Vegas.
Speaker 3:Oh, I got you Okay.
Speaker 2:Go to the Wynn and get massages.
Speaker 3:Oh, you messed that up for him. I kind of All right, well, that's a great story, man. Was that your third and final place? Was that it? Yeah, that was it. All right man, this great, great episode. A lot of fun, buddy.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, I want to leave you with something, if I could. Yeah, leave me with something Do you ever go to bandcampcom?
Speaker 3:No, what is bandcampcom?
Speaker 2:Oh, it's where you can go and you can listen to all different kinds of music and you can download and buy albums and stuff. I would like for you to look up and write this down, if you can Go to bandcampcom and look up Obscurist Vinyl Okay, that's the name of the record label, obscurist Vinyl. Okay, dude, this is the greatest stuff ever.
Speaker 2:I love it. Let me uh give you some of the names of the songs, if you don't mind, no problem. Okay, uh, first date farts. Don't shit, don't shit, don't shit. Okay, it's raining bullshit tonight, it's raining bullshit tonight. This is the one that I found. That got me. I glued my balls to my butthole again. I glued my balls to my butthole again. Oh my God, what did I do? I can't take a download all these songs.
Speaker 3:I love it, man. Yeah, you're going to love it. And I thought the song why Don't we Get Drunk and Screw was a little bit much.
Speaker 2:Nope, nope, these take the cake on that one.
Speaker 3:I love it, man. All right, Fun episode. Kevin Klein, We'll. We'll do it again next week. Again, we'd love for you to like, follow, download, subscribe, give us a rating. It allows us to continue to move forward and put these things out. We'd appreciate that. Also, we have merchandise available. Go to the Tuttle Cline Facebook page and we have it all laid out there on how you can order some merchandise. Kev, what do you have coming up this week?
Speaker 2:This week it's finally going to stop raining so I can go out and mow the lawn that is actually, in some parts, up to my waist Nice, it's going to take me forever to mow this stuff, it's so thick right now. But, um, if you want to hear the most powerful, most gripping conversation I've ever had on the fuzzy mic, uh, be listening to the fuzzy mic. This week I actually talked to a young woman named Naomi Swartz and Truber who was, uh, brought up Amish until the age of 17, when she decided to leave her Amish. Until the age of 17, when she decided to leave her Amish family and become what she calls English, and it did not work out real well for her. She became a stripper, she became a prostitute, she became a drug addict, and it's all about her struggles to escape that after escaping the Amish land. I love it, dude. It's so heartbreaking.
Speaker 3:No, that is riveting stuff. Fuzzy Mike great. Kevin Kline is a master at peeling the onion on interviews, so go ahead and binge watch or listen to the Fuzzy Mike. So all right, Kevin Kline, I got to bail buddy.
Speaker 2:Have a great day, have a great week, see ya.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle and Klein show. See you this Wednesday for an all new episode. Also, you can catch Tuttle on TV. He is a handsome man, and you can get more Klein on his podcast, the fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle and Klein show. Yo, all right, take the yo out.
