Tuttle & Kline
Award winning morning radio partners for 25+ years, Tim Tuttle and Kevin Kline share stories and insights through organic conversation and natural humor.
Tuttle & Kline
Ep #10: Abduction, Our Movie Heroes & Kline Gets In BIG Trouble
Grab your espresso and join us as we start this episode with a playful look at abduction, you know, kidnapping.
While on the topic, we even find a creative way to involve our sponsor, Air Innovations. Thank you for supporting us. Please support them. https://www.airinnovationsllc.com/
We hear a personal story from former Playboy Playmate, Deborah Driggs, Kline's guest this week on his podcast, The Fuzzy Mic, about the time she met Donald Trump.
Will Tim's boys, Dallas and Timmy, get maternal permission to play football? If parenthood and sportsmanship intrigue you, there's a heartfelt reflection on the pressures and lessons that come from sports families – from the weight of expectations to the subtle art of celebrating victories.
Resolving a topic from our previous episode, Kline shares his wife's Top 10 from David Letterman's show, but then Kline really steps in it explaining his wife's guitar playing performance anxiety. It's uproarious.
Wrapping up, our creative juices flow as we debate which movie characters would be a blast to breathe life into. The discussion perfectly encapsulates our personalities.
So plug in and let us share with you a tapestry of stories that'll leave an imprint long after the credits roll.
Welcome to the Tuttle Kline Show.
Speaker 2:Gilcock, you're ready to go to the pool.
Speaker 3:Just chill, man. For those unaware, we're recording on Saturday afternoon rather than Monday morning, so I'm in weekend casual right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah it looks quite similar to Monday casual and Tuesday casual.
Speaker 3:It's semi-retirement casual.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there we go. We are in the middle of a Saturday afternoon and both of us are drinking copious amounts of espresso and coffee.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I love it. I can't get away from it you can't give it up. No, I just I love the taste, I love the experience, man.
Speaker 2:Same here.
Speaker 3:Same here. I mean, I don't know what it is. It's really my only vice that I have left. Yeah, I don't really drink too much when you do what is it? Bourbon on the rocks.
Speaker 2:What kind?
Speaker 3:Well, Maker's Mark is my preference, but I will.
Speaker 2:Always been. Your go-to is Maker's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, maker's Knob is good.
Speaker 2:Two fingers.
Speaker 3:Three fingers, man.
Speaker 2:Three fingers, now I give her three fingers now. That's the height to which he pours his bourbon in his glass. Yeah oh, what did you think it was? I'm sure there's somebody out there who thought we were talking about something else.
Speaker 3:Can anybody have a clean mind these days? Kevin? No, cannot, cannot. Hey, man, I I got and I know you'll love this because this is like right up your alley but I got caught in this rabbit hole, yeah, and I have to tell you about it. Um, you know how you and I have spoken, how we love when comedians either kill and they're really funny or they completely bomb, correct? I mean we, we both celebrate the shitty just as much as we do the good.
Speaker 2:That's indeed true.
Speaker 3:And I was hearing online that, uh, that there was this terrible movie uh called the abduction of jennifer grayson I've not heard 2017 and everybody just says this is the biggest piece of shit movie ever. It's just terrible. It's awful. It makes you know, know Freddy got fingered and you know. It makes Gigli and all those like look good.
Speaker 4:Wow, okay so.
Speaker 3:I had to watch it and God, it was fucking terrible. Kevin, it was so bad. Is it supposed to be a horror movie? Well, kind of. But first off, the production is just so ridiculously cheap. I mean they did this thing for nine dollars and 84 cents. The acting is god awful. I mean, it is like I'm just wondering, you know, because the director they look at the thing called the dailies where they see what they shot that day and just what the director's thinking is like. How can I even put this shit together?
Speaker 2:it's garbage it was so bad. Are there any names, uh, that are recognizable actors or actresses in it?
Speaker 3:no, and they, and because of this they will never be. It was just terrible, I mean. But but the the concept was kind of intriguing.
Speaker 3:Uh, it's kind of like that stockholm syndrome thing it's a serial killer who kidnaps uh pretty women okay and you know, instead of the whole torture and murder and all that stuff, he treats them very, very well and they respond to it. You know, he, he, he, he, like, nourishes them and plays guitar for them. And you know, and, and you know these women basic, cause he's a kind of a handsome dude too. You know, very nice physique they. They eventually, like after months and months, they fall for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's basically what the Stockholm Syndrome is. You are held captive and then after a while, you spend so much time with your captor that you become sympathetic to them and you don't want to leave.
Speaker 3:Right and they don't want to leave. I mean particularly the featured woman in this, the Jennifer Grayson in question. She didn't want to leave, she fell in love with him. I love you, I don't want to go. And he's like no, you have to go, go, now Go. And it got me thinking. I was like wow, because that's a completely different approach. Here we saw somebody that was kidnapped that had a different approach. She was never like I mean, initially, obviously she was like no, don't hurt me please. You know, but you know she didn't freak out, she didn't like have. And it got me thinking, uh, of looking up some stuff. So I got caught in this rabbit hole awesome and um kev, did you know?
Speaker 3:this is a stat that 40% of all people kidnapped are returned unharmed. 40%, 40% unharmed.
Speaker 2:So they would do it for ransom.
Speaker 3:Some of it's ransom and some of it. The captor, the kidnapper, actually liked the person. Oh, Because they took a different approach. And I was just thinking, man, that's great information, is it not? I mean, maybe, if you thought of it kind of a new strategy for when you're kidnapped, you thought of it as, hey, this is a nice spontaneous date.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 3:You know, and actually be excited at his romantic gesture, and you know, all the time and thought that he, you know, put out to plan this date. And you know, and it comes with all the accessories like rope and duct tape, and you know, just be like, hey, how'd you know?
Speaker 2:I'm a little bit freaky no, no, because on the flip side of that, 60 don't make it no, but let's but let's look at the, the dramatic majority of those that are returned unharmed the the guy liked him yeah he was like, he's like, I kind of like I'm just gonna drop you off, you know?
Speaker 3:uh, you know. All I ask is, you know, give me a couple hours before you start ratting on me give me a five-star review.
Speaker 2:That's all I ask.
Speaker 3:Share with the family let them know that I was a really helpful kidnapper. Can you do that, believe it or not? On the dark web there is a yelp review for kidnappers you know thinking about renting out the dungeon for an airbnb yeah. So if you could, if you could just just let them know that hey, you know, we fed you.
Speaker 3:You know, made sure that you had some exercise. I mean, yeah, it was with a chain around your neck and kind of you're limited, but you had some space. Yeah, you had some cardio. Wow, we're sick. I just I couldn't help but think that you know, uh-huh, yeah, it's good because you know, if you, if you act all crazy and like you, you know you're mean to him and just like I'm gonna. You know he's like I'm just gonna kill this bitch yeah, but you know what?
Speaker 2:here's the thing. Okay, and if you've listened to the title and client radio show before the q morning zoo and all that stuff, you know that Tim is the eternal. I'm gonna make lemonade out of lemons.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, that's what he's doing right here you're making lemonade out of a lemon hey, you put a lot of thought into this. I mean the last time my damn husband put a thought into a date you know long time ago. So I appreciate that that looks okay and you obviously want me because you've been stalking me for a while and everything like.
Speaker 3:I gotta admit I'm a little flattered wow, yeah he, he spends a lot of time alone hey, cab, I'm just, I'm just saying man it's an an observation If he makes you hate him, you know, if you make him hate you, he's going to cut you up for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, give yourself a chance, give yourself a chance. Just another thought.
Speaker 3:And let me tell you, if there's one beautiful lady, just one, that's listening to our podcast right now, that utilizes this strategy and return home safely, please reach out and give us the you know the knowledge that it did in our comments. We'd love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we won't accept the reward. We just do it for the mere, you know, safety of you.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, keep the reward.
Speaker 3:You keep the reward. You just hey. You just let us know, give us a review. You just hey. You just let us know, give us a review. Hey, in terms of being kidnapped strategy, there is no podcast better than the deadline podcast. There you go, kevin, want to thank our good friends. Air innovations supported our podcast from the beginning and we're definitely getting big time into the throes of the very, very steamy weather. Eighty nine yesterday, kevin, already eighty nine for you, yeah, nine.
Speaker 2:And we're a pleasant sixty seven today. Well, he's in Missouri, that's right.
Speaker 3:So fuck him.
Speaker 2:No, but the bottom line is it's going to be. If it's 89 already, you guys are going to be taxed out of the bejesus when it gets to the 90s and the 100s, because you know it's going to eventually get there and you know what's going to suck is if your ac goes out yeah.
Speaker 3:So get something done even beforehand, do some preventative maintenance, air innovations. We got their phone number right here, uh, on screen. Give them a call and just say hey, I'm a little worried. It's making this funky, bumpy noise. Something's going on there, and I checked in when I opened it up myself. I don't know what the heck I'm looking at. So, yeah, don't do it yourself.
Speaker 3:No, no, these technicians are trained for this kind of thing. That's what they do, highly trained technicians and their first thought is always hey, how can I take the unit that you have right now and just extend its life a little longer? Give you some more time, you know, either to move out of the house or to, you know, replace the unit in a couple of years if you need to. And, of course, they have fantastic financial programs and they have fantastic prices, if, in case you ever need a new unit because they buy in quantity. I've been in their warehouse. They have massive amount of AC units and my first thought when I saw that, I said Troy, he's the owner, troy. I said, man, the discount that you get must be incredible. He goes, yeah, and we passed the discount along to the Houston customer. Why, tim? Because we're Houston people and we want to take care of them. We're not out there to get this one sale. We're out there for the long-term to be part of their family.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you got to love that too. And you mentioned if they contact Air Innovations, you can either mention the Tuttle Kline program because they are such big sponsors and big fans, or you can just simply say I'm thinking about abducting somebody and I want them to be comfortable, so they like me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like the way you weave it in organically, like that. Thank you, thank you, yeah, yes, yes, if you're a kidnapper, the last thing you want to do is have an uncomfortable. Make sure you're AC, oh Jesus. Anyway, we'll also have a link in our description, right here on the podcast. Kevin always puts a link in there Air Innovations. Just click on them, they'll take care of you, whether it's preemptive you're just doing some preventative maintenance because something just quite ain't right with it or if you have a breakdown. They're available 24 hours a day, kevin, yes, sir, kevin.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir.
Speaker 3:Everybody wants to know. You had the interview on your other podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, of the Playboy Playmate. What happened?
Speaker 2:OK, so Deborah Driggs was the Playboy centerfold for March of 1990. And on the cover of that, of that not episode, not episode, but uh issue, Thank you very much. Uh was Donald Trump and it, if you go and look that up online now, you're going to pay triple digits for that because it's a collector's item, because he's on it. Wow, I asked her. I said you know, I know that's not you on the cover, that's Brandy Brandt, but did you meet Trump? Of course yeah. Do you care to share that story?
Speaker 6:It's, it's, there's nothing to share. We I met him via telephone. We had conversations on the phone and there was a brief moment where I was contemplating flying to New York to meet him and have a date. But we we never did.
Speaker 2:And because this happened, the Star magazine said that they were actually an item, and so she started getting all of this email not email, all these letters and all these autograph requests and she's like, no, I didn't even go on the date with him, I was too afraid.
Speaker 3:Kevin, I am very. I was going to say I would be very, very impressed if she got email in 1990. I did not. People were so angry that they invented email five years before it was actually invented, just to fire off something at her.
Speaker 2:Al Gore was around then, so he could have it. He invented that.
Speaker 3:I'm in the midst of inventing the internet. God politicians, what a bunch of assholes.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, she turned him down because she was too afraid to go meet him. Really, why was she afraid? Uh, she said she was a late bloomer. She was 25 years old when she was in the magazine and she had no self-confidence.
Speaker 3:She had no very low self-esteem okay, let's put a picture of her up. Do we have a picture here?
Speaker 2:here's the cover for so she was march 1990 and then the very next month, april 1990, she was on one of my favorite covers. This is one of my.
Speaker 3:Seriously, I don't remember a lot of covers I don't see why she would be, uh, lacking confidence exactly right, that's. That's the type of woman who owns men and owns the world yeah, she ended up marrying mitch gaylord.
Speaker 2:Do you remember him? The gold, yes, the uh gold medal uh gymnast yep.
Speaker 3:He was also in a movie with Janet Jones, who ended up marrying Wayne Gretzky.
Speaker 2:The great one, yeah. So anyway, yep.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, I remember that was the 84 Olympics.
Speaker 2:Exactly right, great memory.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was Los Angeles Olympics, when the Soviet Union pulled out and McDonald's was like oh shit, we're going to give away so much free stuff with our Olympic Because, because when the US got medals you used to take these little tickets over to McDonald's, get like a free Big Mac, and because there's no Soviet Union competing against the US, I mean, everything was a gold, silver, bronze medal.
Speaker 2:We owned it.
Speaker 3:At some point the clown Ronald McDonald's just like, holy shit, did we get insurance for this? Taking a bath here? Hamburglar, you're going to have to go do a couple jobs on that Burger King guy.
Speaker 2:He had a huge grimace on his face.
Speaker 3:Oh dad joke, oh dad joke. Oh, dad joke. Oh, oh, oh oh. Yeah.
Speaker 2:No no, that was good Kev. I appreciate that. Hey, speaking of dads, dude, are you coaching Timmy?
Speaker 3:No, I am not See, kev, but I heard your voice in the background. I know, man, let's talk about this little sports update with the Tuttle kids First off, before we get into Timmy's baseball. I just want to say as kind of an update for a very, very long time it looked like Dallas, my 13-year-old seventh grader, and Timmy, my eight-year-old second grader, would never be able to play football because of their moms worried about them getting injured. Yeah, mom's not a big fan of that. Yeah, she has said for years that kids aren't going to play football. Well, I guess she softened that a little bit. You know, I, I, uh, you know I.
Speaker 3:Dallas said to me, he's, he's. You know Dallas is getting big. Yeah, I know, I've seen him. He's, he's probably one of the three or four biggest kids in his entire seventh grade. And he was he. He said to me. He said, dad, I really want to play football. You know I really want to. And we talked about it and he said, well, I want to be a defensive end. You know I want to kill quarterbacks. Okay, he doesn't like quarterbacks and I don't know what that reason is. And when you think about that position, kev, the defensive end, it's not one of those high contact dangerous positions where people two people who, who are very fast, have a running start towards each other with these collisions that really do damage right. A defensive end is basically sumo wrestling with offensive linemen, putting swim moves on them to get past the offensive linemen to get into the backfield that's essentially what he's jj, what exactly now?
Speaker 3:you can't get little nicky injuries, you know, obviously it's nothing catastrophic. That you know used to see like when I got my three concussions playing a defensive back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you can get your leg rolled up on, but I mean your chances of getting a concussion or something like that Very slim.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's that's what. What Dallas said is he goes, and if you look at him, he's got that long defensive end body too. It'd be perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So you know I reached out, you know, let you know, let his stepdad mom know that he talked to me about it and they may be softening the stance a little bit. Okay, and which is good, because as soon as timmy heard that, timmy is like I want to play football too, I want to kill quarterbacks too. So my kids don't want to play skill positions in the backfield, they want. All they care about is lining up on that defensive line and putting a move on an offensive tackle or an offensive lineman and just killing the quarterback. I don't know what the deal is.
Speaker 2:Well, did you impress upon them that, at their age and the amount of time it would take for them to make it to the NFL, it'll be flag football on the quarterback by then?
Speaker 3:Exactly. Well, yeah, I let them know that you can't get away with what we used to get away with. Yeah. You know, kev, I remember I cause even at defensive back. They gave me the Red Dog Blitz. Sometimes they call it the Red Dog Blitz. That means Tuttle Goats.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And they would call the Red Dog Blitz and I would just get full speed, no matter what happens, even if he's thrown it like a second and a half later, I still drill the quarterback.
Speaker 2:Didn't you nail Jeff George once I hit Jeff George?
Speaker 3:Kev Jeff George. He was a first pick in the draft in the NFL back in the day I hit him. I honestly think he was such a dick. Everybody hated him because you know USA Player of the Year and he walked around like it too. That was the problem.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I mean everybody hated him. One of the most talented throwers ever. I mean him and Marino had that quick release. I mean just a great. But you know, just he was just a dick. And I swear his offensive line. Let me in, I am not kidding, because I had a they called red dog blitz and I had the full speed and easily his guard could have gotten a little piece of me, uh, but decided not to kind of turn it away from me gave you the ole, I gave me the ole and I stuck that shoulder pad.
Speaker 3:I mean, I heard the. You know that, that noise, that beautiful air goes out of you yeah, I heard that noise and I was like I got him. So, yes, yes, kev, I did get. Uh, that that's my. That's another little claim to fame.
Speaker 2:I had right now I remember that. So, yeah, so, uh, so the kids might get to play football. That's another little claim to fame.
Speaker 3:I had right there. I remember that. So, yeah, so the kids might get to play football. That's very cool. We'll see Dallas, you know. Hopefully he'll play by fall He'll want to play. You know, I'm going to show him some swim moves and everything like that. I remember some, because there's one year I played defensive end. Before you know, the coaches pulled me into the backfield Just said, hey, you have too much speed, we're wasting it up here. So I, you know, and I I remember a few swim moves that I would do. I mean, basically it's so easy, you know offensive tackle. Unless they're really agile, they're easy to get past because they can't keep up with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Um, I mean they are getting more agile as the game evolves.
Speaker 3:Don't get me wrong Kev Top of level. I mean you're not getting past some of these tackles. I get it. We were talking middle school and early high school when I played freshman year and middle school. The offensive tackle is just the biggest dude who ate the most. They put him in a uniform and said here, guard him or try to stop him, and I was like this is just too easy, man, you just put it too easy of a move.
Speaker 3:But, yeah, hopefully Dallas will be able to play this fall Because he's I mean the school system. He goes to Kev. I mean that is a rich football tradition. It's a small school. It's a Texas smaller school, I think 3A and they go deep every year.
Speaker 2:Smaller school, okay, three, I think 3a, and they go deep every year. Well, with his lagginess though and his wingspan.
Speaker 3:Wouldn't he be good at basketball, uh doesn't like basketball. They had basketball camp last summer uh timmy likes it. Well, timmy likes everything. Yeah, I mean, you know, if there, if there were some, if there was some sport where you know you, you threw a ball at yourself or something like he'd be, like I'm a you know, self-dodgeball timmy'd be like this is great, I'm gonna be the best at this.
Speaker 3:So timmy likes everybody, but dallas did not like basketball. Okay, fair enough, so he wasn't into it yet, but he, he could play defensive end good so that that we'll see. Stay tuned for that, but you know. Getting back to your question in regards to coaching no, I'm not coaching, I'm just still loud. Dad in the stands, um, here's a video. This is, I guess, timmy getting a nice hit the other night. Uh, playing little league. Eight-year-old, uh, a baseball player.
Speaker 4:Yeah go, go, go, go, go go go, go, keep going I like that swing.
Speaker 2:Isn't that a good swing?
Speaker 3:yeah well, I was swinging up on. He was swinging up on it the first two times up and I don't know where that came from. The last time I saw him he didn't have that and I just said right here I went. Of course, I walked over while he's on the on deck circle.
Speaker 3:Oh in the on deck circle. I said Timmy, level, swing and swing hard. You're so big, you're so much bigger than these other kids. That ball should be going to the fence every time. And you know, his problem was Kevin and maybe you can help him. You can, as a baseball guy yourself. He just cannot stand striking out. But I told him, I said you're big and strong, you want to be a home run hitter. Okay, and everybody accepts that the home run hitter is going to strike out every so often, but when he gets a hold of one, bye-bye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I like the way he swings. He looked like uh, it reminded me a little bit of ichiro suzuki. Okay, I saw that too, I did. Oh, yeah, I, I saw that immediately. And here's the thing. Okay, yeah, a lot of people think it takes strength to hit a ball out of the ballpark and, yes, the stronger you are, the the better, the easier it's probably going to be. But that doesn't. It comes from bat speed, and his bat speed looked really good for a kid his age.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just eight years old and he hit it hard yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I would. Just I would be convincing him to just continue to make contact with the ball and get those hands through the hitting zone as quickly as possible, because that's where he's going to drive his power. His power is going to come from his legs and from the speed of the bat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what I was trying to tell him. He was so careful to make a connection that he wasn't hitting it hard Because his thing is I don't want to strike out. He does not like walking back to the dugout after a strikeout. I just said that's part of the game. It is part of the game. Babe Ruth struck out a lot. You know, yeah, barry Bonds, hank Aaron, they strike out a lot. But, boy, I tell you what, when they get a hold of one, Ted Williams, the last guy to hit 400 in the major leagues.
Speaker 2:he struck out yeah everybody strikes out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, he just has a problem with that. I get it. He's starting to get the glove now too. I mean we've got to clip him playing first base right here.
Speaker 4:Hey, go back, come on, let's go Run hard, run, hard run hard.
Speaker 3:Good job, timmy. I mean he was really really sharp at first. Base made final out on a nice pop fly, which for seven and eight year olds that's really good. You know, seven, that age, seven and eight, that's like. That's like cats trying to herd cats. That's very scary. I mean it's just frustrating. But they're starting to get good. He's starting to get good. He's starting to turn a corner.
Speaker 2:The videos are awesome. I mean, we've put them up there so.
Speaker 3:I don't want to be like that dad guy, though like that. I was for Audrey's volleyball and when I, when I played, I didn't realize I was doing that, I was just filming him hitting, but you can clearly hear I don't want to be that guy anymore.
Speaker 2:Not being a parent, I never understood it. Okay, uh, and. But now I do, and I'll tell you why I do. Because my niece, uh is is, uh, a freshman in high school and she plays on her varsity soccer team and I will try to make any game that I can, and when I go, I'm not vocal, but I'm, I'm in, you know, I'm all in on her achieving the goals that she wants, and so I understand, if it's your own, totally get it, Totally get it.
Speaker 3:And you know that right there is, like you know, I've seen him hit up on the ball and you know, just kind of like punching Judy paddywhacking at it, and that hit right there. He really put the mustard on it. Nice, so I got excited. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Absolutely as you should as you should. Yeah.
Speaker 4:And your.
Speaker 2:your excitement is different from. I'll use my dad as an example. Okay, your excitement is very positive. You know it's very energetic. Okay, my dad's excitement was oh, I get to ground him tonight because he made an out did you really get grounded because you made an out? Oh shit, dude, it was terrible what was this deal?
Speaker 3:why did you want to steal that? That fucking joy man?
Speaker 2:did he play.
Speaker 3:Did he play ball himself? No, that's well, that's it, that's it okay.
Speaker 2:So he never did shit. Well, no, he, he, he was on the track team and his, his four by 100 set the state record at that time. But, um, he got a lot of recognition by what my brother and I were able to do on the baseball diamond and that made him feel good, I get it now. Okay, Back then I couldn't have gave a shit less, because when we didn't do good we were punished, All right, and yeah it it did. It absolutely took all the joy out of the game. And when I got away and went to college uh, at Oklahoma state my first year, I realized that there's a lot better baseball players out there than me and I really didn't like the game as much as I'd let on, you know, and because the joy wasn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because the joy wasn't there you know, he stole it. Yeah, jim, I would literally piss my pants in the on-deck circle. Literally would piss my pants Are you? Serious In high school Because I knew if I made it out I wasn't getting to hang out with my friends on the weekend.
Speaker 3:What a fucking monster man. I'm so sorry, dude.
Speaker 2:So he learned a lot. He learned a lot when I played with a guy named Steve Siebert and Steve's dad was Sonny Siebert. He's a seven time gold glove winner in the major leagues. He he pitched, I think, for 15, 16 years for seven different teams and Steve would come up in these crucial situations and Sonny would just be there with his arms, you know, folded and he would just be watching and my dad's like how can you be so calm when you know and he's like cause number one it's just a game, mom. When you know and he's like cause number one is just a game. Number two, it ain't life or death. And number three, I've been to a higher level than what he's at. You know, I've seen bigger pressure than this. My dad, my dad, could never understand that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kevin, and I got to say I got to give my dad credit because he instilled in me my position on it. I mean my, my dad never put pressure. Yeah, I mean he after a game he's like hey, did you give it your all, did you do your best I did dad? Was it fun? Yeah, it was dad Good. It sounds like you had a good night.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, ours wasn't supposed to be fun, it was supposed to be a career. So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:The only thing he didn't like and the only thing he lashed out on me was was the hot dogging.
Speaker 2:He did not like the hot dogging yeah, tell about the time you scored that touchdown oh, my first high school touchdown man uh ran back an interception, uh, pick six.
Speaker 3:The crowd's going nuts and I got in the end zone and did the you, you, you remember? Uh, billy white shoes, johnson Houston Oilers fans.
Speaker 2:Love you Blue.
Speaker 3:Love you, blue, when he would do that leg wiggle and spike it. I'm sure, kev, you can find a clip of it right here. Oh yeah, that's exactly what I did after my first high school touchdown. And my dad comes down from the stands and I thought, okay, my dad's going to congratulate me for my first touchdown. This is so cool Having a moment and everything like that, and people are watching too, because it happened like right after the play.
Speaker 3:I mean, everybody else is going back to the sideline and my dad calls me from the end of the end zone and says come here. I was like, oh cool, all right, all right. This is kind of neat Father son moment caught on the camera, all that stuff. I get within like two feet of him. He grabs my face mask and he said don't you ever fucking do that shit again, ever. And I'm like what, what are you talking about? He goes no, you act like you've been there before. You flip that ball to the referee and act like you've been there before. And he said remember, that's my name on your back too, not just yours. Don't you fucking do that again? Nice, never again, dude. I had probably about seven or eight more touchdowns and right to the referee.
Speaker 2:Thank you, sir Barry Sanders did every time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, even the one game that he missed where I scored a touchdown, just on the off chance that he may see video of it later, living right in the ref. Here you go, sir.
Speaker 2:If Fred were alive today and be able to watch the NFL and these celebrations that happened after touchdowns, would he turn it off?
Speaker 3:You know he was still alive when a lot of that was getting kicked in you know back in the 70s and 80s and 90s.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, he just, he always just said I mean, you know what he'd call them just, he always just said I mean he, I mean he. You know what do you call them? He'd call them pussies. Yeah, he says that whether you're a pussy, you look like you need some kind of adulation and attention or something like that. Have some class man, flip it to the ref like you've been there before and you're coming back for more yeah, all this choreographed shit that's going on now.
Speaker 3:I hate it oh yeah, he just says, hey, that's just that. I mean he, he would say, it's just insecurity. You're seeing insecurity play out, that these people are so insecure with themselves they have to. Oh, look at me, adulation, adulation. And I know a lot of you are saying, well, tim tuttle, don't you do that shit too. And I would say I am a very, very complex person.
Speaker 2:But doesn't that those celebrations? Doesn't that equate to dollar signs for those players you know so Wow.
Speaker 3:How is that monetized?
Speaker 2:I would think it would be monetized because it would increase their jersey sales. It would increase their time off to go viral online okay, so what they do?
Speaker 3:their little uh celebrations appeal to the younger audience. The quote unquote, 18 to 34, which is the marketer's dream audience I would think, think I would think I don't know.
Speaker 3:I see your point. I see your point and, and, and, in all honesty, if I was on that level and I probably may have done some of that myself Okay, I mean, yeah, cause that, yeah, cause I, yeah, I, yeah, okay, all right, I don't know I was just throwing it out there. No, no, no, no, no, you're right, you're right, you're right. You've got to do it for your brand, you know.
Speaker 2:There it is for your brand.
Speaker 3:It's part of my brand. Oh yeah, here comes another dance baby.
Speaker 2:And the way you dance. Everybody would have loved that.
Speaker 3:No, no, I would have gotten bonuses from the team to not dance.
Speaker 2:That's why your dad told you never to fucking do it.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah it was terrible, dude. I mean Billy White Shoes had some rhythm man, because I did see it on the game film the week after. It was terrible. They were laughing, they were slow motioning it. The coach was like what the fuck is this man? Like what the you know? And that was the time when breakdance you didn't have your electric boogaloo there Did you Tuttle I just told you my age.
Speaker 3:There you go, kev. I got a DM from the last episode. I think you'll find this interesting because you kind of you kind of started this whole concept. Oh, and I'm not going to reveal who it was, but she told me she was listening to the last episode and we're you know, kaka and I both have lost relationships because, quote unquote we're just kind and generous and supportive and that's boring to some women. And this lady just said hey look, I, I'm just looking for a guy who is kind and generous and supportive. You know, I don't. I hate drama too. I don't fight either. I'm looking for somebody like that. I think we would be perfect for each other. And she sent me a picture. It was a picture and I was like holy cow, beautiful. I mean, kev, I'm talking Salma Hayek in the 90s.
Speaker 2:Just gorgeous Shit. Salma Hayek in 2024, isn't?
Speaker 3:anything to sneeze at. The picture, I was like, oh my god. I was like, yeah, that's great, you know. Well, after a little bit of further conversation, it was actually her friend that looked like someone I had.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And I was initially I was like why did you send that, you know? Why did you send that, you know? Why did you send that picture, you know? Yeah, I mean she was okay looking, you know she was okay, but her friend looks like selma hayek. Why would you send that picture to me, like to show me what you look like? Why?
Speaker 2:yeah, why?
Speaker 3:because you almost got catfish on it yeah, especially when your profile picture is like a logo instead of a, where I could like verify that it's you after I see that picture that you sent.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Her profile picture is a logo, so I can't. I can't go. You know, double checking. Hey, okay, the Salma Hayek one Is that her. That's all. That's all the information I have. And I thought, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh, yeah, it was, uh, it was um. So we probably, I think I think, kevin, we lost the podcast listener. Oh, man well, I I think we may have lost two, to be honest with you, really but what happened to the second?
Speaker 2:one.
Speaker 3:Well, salma got a, salma got a whiff of no, she got a whiff of it and and salma is like, oh my god, he's handsome and you know, expressed an interest in that way and her boyfriend caught wind of that oh and he was a listener of the podcaster you know I can't take you anywhere. I have. I don't. This is not my fault. You don't send a picture with your friend if you're the number two, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Right, true, and, but then again, if you went and looked at the profile and it was not a picture and a logo, you got to figure something's up there.
Speaker 3:I did, well, I didn't, I yeah, well, what, what? What would you have done, though?
Speaker 2:I mean, because if it's the salma hayek looking girl, I'm kind of interested yeah, but if it was the salma hayek looking girl, she would have had the salma hayek post a picture as the profile it was.
Speaker 3:It was a charity logo, kev, so I can understand that being up there. Okay, well, it was a charity logo? Yeah, but you I can understand that being up there. Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, it was a charity logo yeah but you had the person's name. You can google search them. Did you take that?
Speaker 3:step. I did not take that step, but I will if this could be. I mean, why do I have to take these extra steps? Just a simple rule if you're gonna send somebody a picture of you that you're interested in, don't have a fucking hotter friend in the picture, right?
Speaker 4:Well.
Speaker 2:I mean, if she's sending that, she's saying you know what? This is the quality of people I hang out with. This is what I see in you. This is what I want to hang out with you, you know I mean there's always ways you can read into it.
Speaker 3:Kev, if I'm interested in a woman, I'm not going to send a picture of me standing next to trying to index my mind for somebody that's better looking than me.
Speaker 2:No, you're going to send a picture of you and me.
Speaker 3:You don't have to settle for this.
Speaker 2:You can get the guy on the right side. Look, I even have friends that I do charity for. I let him hang out with me.
Speaker 3:I got a wingman picks up the scraps. There you go. I feel awful, though, man, I I feel bad because I hurt her feelings. Man, oh, how do you get out? I mean, how do you get out? I just I said I'm so sorry about the confusion, the misinterpretation, but where do you go from there? Where do you go from there?
Speaker 2:New episodes every Wednesday.
Speaker 3:New episodes every Wednesday, please, if you're listening or watching right now we need more, because I lost two this week Send our podcast to a couple friends. There you go. We got a couple vacancies, a couple openings that we're looking to fill. Kev, tell me about this neighbor that you met. You broke the fourth wall, I guess. Kev, tell me about this neighbor that you met. You broke the fourth wall, I guess.
Speaker 2:I did not, okay. So the house that we're living in we're living with my mother-in-law and she's lived here since Trish was born and Trish is 52. I'm 54. She's 52. And Trish lived in this house for the first 24 years of her life and then we've been living here for three years now, and today is Saturday. We're recording this on Saturday, so Thursday we talked to the neighbor who she's lived next to since she was born for the very first time.
Speaker 3:Since she was born, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yep For the very first time since she was born.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep, for the very first time. You gotta be kidding me. No, now for those unaware. I've always been an advocate of keep your neighbors at arm's length, because if things go wrong, there they're, they're not going anywhere exactly you know, I'm saying like if you have a problem with you know friends out there, if they don't live next to you, that's okay, you don't you, but if they're right there, yeah, that yeah, so, so, yeah. So she broke that rule. Well, he came over.
Speaker 2:So I was out, yeah, I was out. So I have a my studio, which you can see it in the background if you're watching this on YouTube and it's in the garage, but it's soundproof and we built it. Well, we had, uh, the cable or AT&T come out and run a business line into the studio so that I have faster internet. Well, they haven't buried the line yet, and so he saw me going into the studio the other day and he comes over and he goes hey, young man, cause he looks like Bob Odenkirk if he's 80. Oh, okay, okay, okay, this guy worked at UPS for 60 years.
Speaker 3:Better call Saul yes. If he was 80 years old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and he comes over and he goes hey young man. And I'm like oh, hey, bob, I know his name, but I never met him, never said anything.
Speaker 3:Wait, his name is Bob too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh how convenient, right.
Speaker 2:And so he says what's this line here? And I said Right, and so he says what's this line here? And I said, oh, it's AT&T came out. They're going to bury it. Yeah, I didn't ask what they're going to do. I asked what's the line for. I said, oh well, trish came out and joined in the conversation and after we left I said is he normally that talkative? She goes, kevin. That's the first time I've ever talked to him.
Speaker 3:Wow, okay, so we'll talk about the conversation, cause I, you know, my, my, my first thought is none of your fucking business, but that's just me. That's how I am.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So how I mean? Tell us, what were you talking about?
Speaker 2:Well, we talked about, uh, why I needed it. Uh, when they're going to come out and bury the line, are they going to dig up his yard or just keep it in our yard? Um, and then we talked about he just recently retired, uh, from UPS ups. He worked there for 60 years holy shit, yeah, 60 years and uh, and now he's just got extra time on his hands and you know, I'll probably see him in the yard more often, see him in the yard every day.
Speaker 3:Um and uh, you know he worked at ups for 60 years yes, he did so he was. When he started, it was still like it was brand new, it was cream colored before brown. Yeah, it was still like more cream. It was brand new. It was cream colored before brown.
Speaker 2:It was a brand new company. He didn't know if it was going to last. Wow yeah.
Speaker 3:That's cool. Was he a big wig, or was he a driver? What was he?
Speaker 2:He started as a driver and then became like one of the guys that takes the load from one truck to the next truck, became supervisor of that.
Speaker 4:So yeah, yeah, yeah, I said, load.
Speaker 2:I said takes the load way to go, beavis that was so funny takes the load shut up, beavis. So. But uh, I brought him into my production studio to show him around and everything he goes. And what are you doing here? I said, well, I, I host podcasts with my old radio partner. I host my own podcast and then I do some voice work. What kind of voice work? I said when I showed him one of the projects that I just uh, that I just started working on.
Speaker 3:Wait, so you're showing him projects? Yeah, that was wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wow, yeah, yeah. So like I was showing him, so I'm doing cartoon voices for the National Science Foundation now and he wanted to see how it works and everything and how I do it. And he's like, and how do they get it? And I'm like I just send it to him. Well, but do you need to see the character that you're playing? I'm like, no, I don't need to see him. They just tell me what kind of attitude he has and what kind of voice they're kind of looking for. And if you don't have to see him, well, that's crazy, I would have to see him. And he's like breaking it down and way analytical, and I could just tell that that's what his job was for 60 years.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, analysis. Yeah, he puts the anal in analysis. Shut up, beavis. We're such children we are I don't want to grow up, though. If anybody is still listening to the podcast. I just want to say that this is really, really good news that Kevin has a good neighbor story.
Speaker 2:The last neighbor story kevin had was 24 years ago, when muhammad was uh living upstairs from him when we were in uh tallahassee florida yeah, so yeah, we were living in, uh, in government supplied housing, and there were at any hour of the day, mostly at two o'clock at night. Uh, the apartment above us was always filled with middle Eastern men, and this was in Tallahassee, not far from Emory riddle, which is where the, which is where the nine 11 terrorists trained to become pilots. Yeah, and it was all Al Jazeera that they were watching that, yeah, of course yeah of course.
Speaker 3:Now I just want to say because that you know, since they open the border and just let everybody in, I mean that's not unusual. Now I know there's a lot of people going well, it's not unusual, they're, they're, they're, they're either but this is sugar land yeah, we've been to sugar land, we we've seen the program there of bring them all in. But this is back in 2000, where you're just like what's happening and then a year and a half later, 9-11 happens. And Kev, you swore that that Mahan Badatta was one of the dudes.
Speaker 2:Looked like him. Did, looked like him.
Speaker 3:He was the mastermind on the plane that flew into the World Trade Center.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Yep. So I mean, I'll never know for sure.
Speaker 3:Not the mastermind. Let me clarify the mastermind of that was Osama bin Laden, ali Kaha Sheikh, or whatever his name was, and then the CIA. They were the masterminds, okay, but he was the main pilot. But, yeah, the CIA, though they were the masterminds, okay, but he, you know, he was the main pilot, main pilot. But yeah, kev, I remember Kev talking about that too, when we were at the time of going.
Speaker 2:Something's going on up there you know, yeah, because there was a lot of men coming in and out of that, but they didn't see, this is 2000, before September 11th.
Speaker 3:Okay, they didn't have the. If you see something, say something. Program.
Speaker 2:No, they didn't.
Speaker 3:Which they have now. Right, of course, right, homeland security and Kev, I got somebody that I know that actually saw something and was trying to say something. Really, do tell, okay, okay. He claims at a Walmart nearby that he saw four Middle Eastern dudes in Walmart buying a pressure cooker and a box of BBs.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And he reached out and I don't know exactly what was said. He seemed frustrated. It didn't seem like, when he said something as he was supposed to do, that they cared. Hmm, and you know they were asking him questions. Well, well, what? You know what if they were just trying to cook?
Speaker 2:with babies.
Speaker 3:And I would say I would just be like well, do you think that four Middle Eastern dudes are going to? Slow cook some fucking pork.
Speaker 3:No, I would hop on this. And then you know they're adding salt and pepper to pork or whatever. They're not adding BBs. Yeah, exactly, you know BBs from a BB gun which I guess if you put into a pressure cooker that could probably cause some damage if you had a bomb turned into a bomb, which they do. Right. Right, I'm just saying, but you know, he seemed frustrated. It didn't seem like they were wanting you to say something about that like that like that's old school.
Speaker 3:They want you, if you see, like a husband and wife that were that are talking about. They love their freedoms and they want their freedoms back, and you know this country has got a little. Those are the people. I guess that now you're supposed to say something about Americans who love the Constitution. That's. That's what that's about now.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that the fine print down at the bottom of the sea? Something say something Exactly. I mean we want white people who are bitching about their freedoms now. Oh, is that the fine print down at the bottom of the sea? Something say something exactly. I mean we.
Speaker 3:We want white people who are bitching about their freedoms. That's basically what it, what it would be, at least what he was getting at. Uh, kev, do you remember? Did, did, was. Was trish ever able to find the top 10 letterman? Yes, she was okay, all right for those unaware. Last week it was revealed and I didn't know this I've known kevin 28 years. I had no idea that his wife wrote a top 10 list for the david letterman show and it was actually used okay, so I got clarification on this from trish.
Speaker 2:All right, okay, uh, it was. Uh, she was in dr mcadoo's class from 1989 to 1993, and they submitted top tens for the show and it was some sort of a class contest. So they had several, which was one was about college, one was about kids, one was about politics. Okay, and she has given me the top ten list that she remembers was recognized and used on the show and it april 13th of 1990 you're kidding me nope, nope.
Speaker 2:She, along with three collaborators, wrote this top 10 sign. Top 10 signs. Your kid is a loser and and hold on.
Speaker 3:Just real quick. Just some background, and letterman's people saw this and david letterman saw himself, loved it and ended up using it. Now, for those who are younger, uh, david Letterman, one of his big things was a top 10 list every night, a funny top 10 list, and you could submit them, I guess, and if he liked them, they would use them.
Speaker 2:So okay, top 10 signs your kids are a loser yes, uh, so, and she wrote four of these and one of them got used and three of them did not get used. Okay, so so she is one of 10 here. Do you just want me to say hers, because it came in at number eight?
Speaker 3:what was hers?
Speaker 2:uh, top 10 signs your kid is the loser. Number eight constantly uses the phrase okie dokie that's good yeah that.
Speaker 3:Hold on, that's good. Yeah, all right, now I want to hear the others. And then what? What they rejected her. Does she have that? Yeah, I got them all here. Yeah, oh good, let's go, let's go all right.
Speaker 2:So number 10 the top 10 signs your kid is a loser. Number 10 neighborhood kids trade and collect his teeth. Number nine sobs uncontrollably every time he sees the hey Vern guy.
Speaker 3:I remember this is 1990. This is 1990.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Then number eight, trish, is constantly using the phrase Okie dokie. Number seven turns you into mall cops for parking in a handicapped spot. Number six number six turned down for a date by share. That's actually pretty good, know right? Number five tries to start the wave while watching a game on tv. That's good. That's good. Number six pesters eddie albert at the green acres conventions okay yeah, but remember this is springfield missouri, so it play it that plays.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that plays big there, yeah, and plays big there, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the top three. When he grows up he wants to be quote just like Dave. Good one. Number two top ten signs your kid is a loser. Number two is US Vice President. And the number one sign your kid is a loser tends to sit in the backyard and eat crickets.
Speaker 3:I love it Okay, the vice president at the time was Dan Quayle, so that was really good.
Speaker 2:There you go and the three that she wrote that got rejected. Type 10 signs your kid's a loser, watches the nanny religiously combs his hair like the fawns and you lay his clothes out for him in the morning that, that, that that last one could have been on there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that could have been on there so but yeah, so she got.
Speaker 2:The one of hers was mentioned on the letterman program now, how did?
Speaker 3:how? Did her and her classmates celebrate? Were they like, oh, oh, man, this is awesome. Did they go out and get drunk and get all fucked up and have a good time?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, no, they did not. She went to a private college. It was in the band, oh, you know so top ten, that's right.
Speaker 3:She's really good at guitar isn't she?
Speaker 2:Oh, she fucking wails on the guitar dude. She is really good, but I mean top 10 signs. Your kid's a loser. You went to a private college and you were in the band.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 2:Winner, winner I am a dead man.
Speaker 3:You're a dead man, let's make it up to her.
Speaker 4:Do you have a little clip of her playing guitar, a little riff that you could play right here?
Speaker 3:damn man she shreds.
Speaker 2:She can listen to any song and play it off from ear. What a waste man. Yeah, she can play eruption what a waste.
Speaker 3:Why didn't she like, like? Why didn't she go to the go-go's belinda carlisle and just say, hey, you think your guitars is pretty good.
Speaker 2:Watch this um, because, uh, when she had to perform, she would either throw up or get diarrhea. I'm really dead.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 3:That'll kill any band.
Speaker 2:Exactly yeah, the Go-Go's. I got a Go-Go.
Speaker 3:All right On guitar tonight. For the Go-Go's Trish Snyder oh, need a the Go-Go's Trish Schneider, oh.
Speaker 2:Need a little bit of that sphincter control yeah.
Speaker 3:Where's the men in black flashlight? She just shit all over the stage. Trish, you got to get a hold of that problem there. We just booked a world tour. There's some of the countries that will arrest us if you do that in their country the go-go's shitting across the globe it's a. It's a go-go's cleanup on aisle four tour oh my god, I'm so dead you just see. You just see the manager going trish, I'm yours, we're trying to find a spot for you to have even a bigger solo and's terrible yeah that's it don't.
Speaker 3:Aren't there drugs for that?
Speaker 2:uh beta blockers, beta blockers, I guess I don't know now there might be, but I don't know if that would have uh, that might've, you know, affected her performance.
Speaker 3:I wish she could just transfer that skill to me right right now. Just give me that skill. What the guitar? I'm playing a guitar? No, yeah, I don't want the shitting skill.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's it, trying to get away from that. I'm just like man. I wish I could play guitar like that man. I would just be like it would. It would change everything for me right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it totally would. Yep, yeah, but no, she's, she's fantastic, she really is.
Speaker 3:I know that's really good. That's too well. Do you know that, enya? Yeah and yeah, sail away sail away, sail away.
Speaker 2:Or an Oco Flo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sail away. Oh, is that you're not saying sail away?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do sail, away.
Speaker 3:But that's the name of the song.
Speaker 2:Or an Oco Flo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, she never has done a show. That's all just production and her records. She's never done a tour I'm not thinking, but I've never, never, ever done a tour because she has performance anxiety uh-huh I mean, your wife could probably just cut records, man yeah, you know yeah, that's what I tell her about sex I I don't want to do it because I have performance anxiety you don't want me shitting all over the place, do you?
Speaker 2:I don't know, she is German oh.
Speaker 3:And Kevin, now you're speaking my language. Get over here. Welcome to the bedroom.
Speaker 2:My God, my mother-in-law watches this too oh, you're in trouble, dude oh, dude big time you're, you're. I'm so sorry, cav that's all right, I well, I started it I'm so.
Speaker 3:Let's get you out of it real quick.
Speaker 1:Uh, I got a top three here just when you thought they couldn't count any higher.
Speaker 3:It's tunneling clients top three all right, kev yeah uh, top three movie characters you would like to have played oh, very easy, I got it right.
Speaker 2:I got them right here. Cool, yeah, they're, they're. They're my three favorite fictional characters ever created. Hannibal Lecter oh, great one.
Speaker 3:I forgot about Hannibal Lecter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Lecter Would have loved to have played Lecter Quasimodo, the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Speaker 3:Well, hold on a second Kev. First off, give me the fava beans quote.
Speaker 2:A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and an ice chianti. You, I ate his liver with some fava beans and an ice key and tea. You know that thing. At the end when he does that, that was that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, just to, just to scare her and freak her out. She had freaked her out Exactly. Jody Foster didn't, didn't know that was coming.
Speaker 2:Nobody did.
Speaker 3:Isn't that great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was phenomenal. They left it in, yeah, because it was so free.
Speaker 3:She freaked out so much. So again, remind me, kev, for next week we'll get into some of the best freestyle and rift and ad libbed and improvisational moments in TV and movie history. Okay, got to commit it.
Speaker 2:Yeah so yeah so, and then Quasimodo, the Hunchback of Notre Dame created by Victor Hugo, If you ever want to see a masterful performance, 1939 version, Charles Lawton as Quasimodo it brings tears to my eyes every time I watch it.
Speaker 4:I never realized till now how ugly I am, and because you're so beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I'm kind of split on these last two. I don't know which one. I would put number three and then, honorable mention, I would probably put Lloyd Dobler as my third.
Speaker 3:John.
Speaker 2:Cusack, yeah from Say Anything Say. Anything, those are my top three favorite fictional characters ever created, and then Rocky would be honorable mention.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just remember Lloyd Dobler, when the father played by John Mahoney was asking his intentions. Yeah. I don't want to sell anything bought or sold or processed. I don't know we have a little clip of it right here.
Speaker 5:I don't want to sell anything bought or sold or processed, I don't know. We have a little clip of it right here. I don't want to sell anything, buy anything or process anything. As a career I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought or processed, or repair anything sold, bought or processed. You know, as a career I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's classic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was brilliant.
Speaker 3:That was classic. Who was the third one? Because I was still on the Lloyd Doblin in my head. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Well, I said Rocky would be honorable mention. Balboa yeah yeah, love Balboa. Hey yo, adrian Yo, you know we ain't not doing something you know for 20 years or something classic about we get married yeah, and I'll tell you this uh adrian, played by uh talia shire, one of the coppola's.
Speaker 3:She's one of the coppola's.
Speaker 2:She was so beautiful man, oh, I know, oh I. I thought that immediately when I saw her.
Speaker 3:I'm like oh, wow, even even when they try to frump her up with the glasses and sweaters. I was like that is a beautiful woman. Man, yeah, I know what you're, I know what you're to do, and they try to do this in movies. They try to frump you up and then you blossom later in the movie. She was just gorgeous. I had a crush on her, even from the Godfather stuff. I was like God, that is a beautiful woman right there.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Gorgeous. Yeah, that was an easy one for me and I like that.
Speaker 3:what's your top three? Well, I, indiana jones, of course, love the india. It looks exhausting, though, but I would love to have played that character. And kev, speaking of, uh, best improv moments in movie history, he's got one himself. Uh, harrison ford was running like 102 degree temperature the day that they shot this one right here. He was supposed to go into a full sword fight with the guy and he's just so exhausted and feeling so bad that he just impromptu out of nowhere Nobody saw it coming, and you've got to give the actor with the sword credit, because he immediately went down and he just shoots him. The gun was improvised, improvised. That is a total it up.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, that made the scene he was supposed to do something you know with uh with the whip and have a whole like completely choreographed battle. But uh, harrison ford was running on temperature and just felt terrible, holy crap. And he's just like you know, fuck this Pulls out his gun, shoots him. The actor, who is I mean, look at the amazing reaction from the actor too Just like saw it and went with it and it ends up being one of the classic scenes in all of cinema, in all of cinema when he did that. And, kev, since we're on it, I'm so sorry I have to do this, harrison Ford. Another brilliant improvisation is this from Star Wars, when Princess Leia says I love you. I love you, I know.
Speaker 3:That he was supposed to say I love you too, or something. He decided, hey, a Han Solo would not do that. He's a swashbuckling son of a bitch.
Speaker 2:He would say I know, you know, and that that actually was one of the formative movie, uh, of your, of your life kev.
Speaker 3:I remember I was a little kid in the movie theater, saw that uh-huh and just heard all of the laughter in the theater and just saw all these girls just swooning. They were just swooning over that and I was like that's who I want to be. Yeah, so, yeah, but yeah, okay. So I got Indiana Jones. Kev Hans Gruber.
Speaker 2:I love Hans Gruber.
Speaker 3:From Die Hard. Give me a little, just a. We're putting Kevin to work a lot here. I'm sorry, buddy, but you got to have a little clip. A. We're putting kevin to work, uh, a lot here. I'm sorry, buddy, but you got to have a little clip of hans gruber um, played by alan rickman, genius actor, on just the essence of uber cool evil, right here due to the narcotomic corporation's legacy of greed around the globe.
Speaker 5:They're about to be taught a lesson in the real use of power.
Speaker 2:That is a phenomenal character.
Speaker 3:And Kev, I gotta say I mean the number one for me.
Speaker 2:Let me try and guess the number one for you Gordon Gekko.
Speaker 3:Say hello to my little friend Do you want to play rough? Okay.
Speaker 4:Say hello to my little friend.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Scarface man Al Pacino, tony Montana.
Speaker 3:All the way. That would just been. As a matter of fact, kevin, I've told you this before is I was hoping, you know, as I was growing up, that there would be like a sequel to it, where, you know, apparently Elvira's womb wasn't so polluted I can't even have a kid with her man. Her womb is so polluted.
Speaker 3:I can't even have a fucking little baby with her yeah, because you remember that he, he lost elvira and she left. She didn't get shot up in the end scene, uh huh, she probably went back to bal or something and you know she ends up. The next story is is you know she did get pregnant. Her womb wasn't so polluted that she can't even have a little baby. She had it and it was son of Scarface. Wow, right, so I would. I was like, well, I, I even talked to a guy that I went to college with. He's like connected in Hollywood, and I said man, they got into a son of Scarface movie and he said Timmy, let's examine this real quick. Elvira is a white woman, went back to Baltimore. Where is Scarface Jr going to get that heavy Cuban accent?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:More likely than not, the angle you'd have to go on. That is Elvira, played by Michelle Pfeiffer, so disgusted with Tony, the lifestyle and everything. She shielded him from that and he probably became a DD agent or something. Yeah, could have been. I was like wait, that's a pretty good story too.
Speaker 2:That's right yeah so, and therein uh again shows the different personalities between tim tuttle and kevin klein. Uh, tim's all three alpha males, mine a serial killer and two losers perfect perfect although you can't really call Lloyd Dobler a loser- I mean he was.
Speaker 3:I mean, he got the girl man.
Speaker 2:He did get the girl in the end, but I mean he was not one of the cool crowd.
Speaker 3:I don't think they ever had a sex scene. What are you talking about? Get her in the end.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I'm saying the wrong things all day today, aren't I Took man?
Speaker 3:I'm saying the wrong things all day today aren't? I took the load in the end. Wow, this kevin guy is funny. Shut up, baby. He's not that funny, not at all yeah, yeah, kevin flying rules shut up, baby. It's not like he's white zombie or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, but no, that's a yeah I I love.
Speaker 3:Dobler. Hey, Kevin, speaking of which, since you're bringing up screenplays, I've been delving into my varsity assassin a little bit.
Speaker 2:Did you start?
Speaker 3:I did Nice, yeah, and this is what I've done for, for those that are aware I'm, I'm now writing a screenplay for a movie I've had floating in my head called varsity assassin, where a very trained and young, young looking weapons and martial arts expert uses the disguise of being a high school student to go undercover. He's in Maryland at a Maryland high school, so he has access to DC, to, you know, do some assassinations. And his name is Ryan.
Speaker 2:That's a great name.
Speaker 3:Thank you, and I've also added. I've added his handler is the phys ed teacher at the high school named.
Speaker 2:Victor.
Speaker 3:Guy in the late forties basically trained Ryan military. You know they did. They did seven or eight years of official military work together. So they got a good rapport, good relationship. They have good dialogue with each other. You know I got some great dialogue that I've lined up but I'm starting to lay it out a little bit Nice.
Speaker 2:So are you? Are you starting with an outline or are you just starting with the opening scene and just going to create that way?
Speaker 3:A general outline first.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Just to flesh out some character things that I can have fun with. You know, like they're both sports fans and they have interesting dialogue about sports, like while they're killing. You know they're in the middle of these very intricate, sophisticated assassinations and they're like, you know what do you mean? Pete Rose belongs on, he bet he doesn't belong in the hall. That's while they're killing. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, because it's just a job to them. It's not killing, it's just a job.
Speaker 3:They're so trained at it and so good at it. Yeah, like, once they go over the plan and have the plan down, then it's just second nature and you know they're talking to each other during you know these things and so it's witty conversation which just adds another layer. I mean, essentially they're they're putting a bullet in the forehead of you know security guards and these diplomats and stuff like that and these evil fuckers. And you know they're talking about how there was no more beautiful woman in the world than Jessica Alba in 2005. You know, just having these arcane and just random conversations, yeah, I love it, love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'll be very tarantino, yeah see, that's the thing is.
Speaker 3:You know, I will flat out tell you right now, my influence is very tarantino, very scorsese. Mostly tarantino, though, because I always loved the dialogue, and what you're getting here is obviously the Jules dialogue with Vincent Vega. When they're going to kill the guy who stole the briefcase Marcellus Wallace's briefcase they're talking about Royale with cheese and quarter pounder and stuff like that. I mean, that's a little bit of what I'm thinking. I don't mean to blatantly rip off Tarantino, but it's kind of a Tarantino ripoff.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, if he wasn't so good, people wouldn't be trying to emulate it. You know, I mean, one of the greatest scenes in movie history is Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walken in True Romance. I mean gee whiz, that's a tour de force scene.
Speaker 3:That's brilliantly written. Yeah, see, and I've always been intrigued by real dialogue that people not See most movies and TV shows and everything like that, and I don't want to do this with my work at all. Their dialogue is just to advance the plot line, that's all. It is just to get you to the next place in the plot, whereas I don't know, I want to have real. This is what people really talk about. You know, I'm saying I know, yeah, and then you get that whole real realistic dialogue thing. With the uber violence which people love, I mean we're going to be blowing fucking some shit up and killing people, and killing people in some heinous ways.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 3:You know. So that combo right there, I mean it'll instantly have a market. I mean, if you love a Tarantino movie, you're going to love Varsity Assassin that I'm writing.
Speaker 2:So Tarantino dialogue with Eli Roth visual dude oh my God, dude.
Speaker 3:Totally.
Speaker 2:That would be amazing.
Speaker 3:It's going to be graphic violence and it's going to be great character dialogue and it's going to be a freaking awesome screenplay.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 3:Oh, so get on it, get on it. I'm on it. I'm on it. I think I'll have it done in a few weeks. I think I'll have it done in a few weeks, wow I just who do I have look at, it is my thing who can green light something like this? Who can sell this to like netflix for a couple million, if it's really good?
Speaker 2:probably our, our radio agent paul. Oh shit, that's right. You would want paul to look at that, for sure yeah, paul would be good.
Speaker 3:I want him. I want lennox to read it too, john lennox yeah I'd want him to read it. Yeah, Absolutely. Tell me if there's anything, and then you, Kev, you're going to be the first to read it. And if it blows ass, you got to tell me right away dude this, dude this, this is this blows ass. Okay, you have to be the one that protects me from everything else. Like I stopped, it stops with you.
Speaker 2:I doubt it's going to blow ass.
Speaker 3:No, it's going to be really fucking good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure it will be, are you? Going to format it and everything.
Speaker 3:Oh, totally, it's going to be laid out completely how it's supposed to be. The correct amount of pages for you know, an hour and 45 minute. Two hours, top movie. Yeah, you know movie, yeah, you know very cool, but yeah, I'm excited about it, I am too. I am too. I'll have something for you to read, probably within the next month, six weeks, tops. Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So cool when you're done with the scene. Just put it aside, man, because you could over analyze and oh yeah a screenplay in a book might never be done if you don't put it aside.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, just put it away, but you can come back and visit later.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, if you have to, to you know, pick up where you left off, but don't obsess over it.
Speaker 3:No, no, I won't. And see, kevin, I'm one of those people like like I'll crank the, I'll do it in like huge bursts, like I'll get a good chunk of it done like in two days, yeah, you know. But after it like jumbles around in my head for a while, then I'll spit it out. See, that's the thing about the voice to text. I can just spit out and I pace back and forth. You remember I'm a pacer.
Speaker 2:Yes indeed.
Speaker 3:I just pace back and forth and I'm spitting it into my uh, into my phone yeah, there you go so cool. All right, what else is happening? Are we good?
Speaker 2:I think we're great yeah I think we're great.
Speaker 3:All right, what do you have coming up this week, kevin klein?
Speaker 2:well, I'll be in denver going to a cannibal corpse concert, sweet yeah. And then, uh, I've got the.
Speaker 3:Uh, the deborah driggs interview on the fuzzy mic oh, the playboy playmate, yeah, is available right now, when you're seeing this on the fuzzy mic correct so how did she? How did she hold up over the years?
Speaker 2:oh, she, yeah, she's great. Uh, I think she still looks phenomenal. Um, she's 60 now, uh and but uh, I started out with a poem, tim.
Speaker 3:Oh, you wrote her a poem. Yeah Again, yeah, it's, it's. It's not as bad as the Linda. Uh, Linda Carnalini Does it.
Speaker 2:No, no it it. It alludes to that kind of stuff, but no, it never quite gets there.
Speaker 3:Kevin Klein. We had Linda Carl Cardellini on the show years ago. Kevin Klein had a crush on her. For those unaware, linda Cardellini was on Freaks and Geeks, she was Velma under Scooby-Doo and she's been in a bunch of other stuff. Oh yeah. Very attractive woman, and Kevin Klein wrote something like Linda Cardellini you make the blood rush to my weenie.
Speaker 2:Hello Miss Linda Cardellini. You make blood rush to my weenie.
Speaker 3:Click, click Again Again.
Speaker 2:Again, yeah, so I thought that was a really good one.
Speaker 3:She actually thought that was cute. Yeah, she did, but I don't know if she was being nice or not probably a combination of both maybe 70-30, 70 being nice and 30 just look at her publicist going do not ever let me talk to these motherfuckers again, ever but then again she did work with James Franco. We all know about James Franco yeah, yeah, yeah, kevin klein is just james franco light. Yeah, kevin klein is, uh, you know, just creepy james franco, without the whole rapey thing exactly, yeah, exactly he's coming back though, by the way, kev he's coming back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they said. I guess they send you to purgatory for a little bit and then you start making a comeback. Uh, kevin spacey's doing a comeback too do you know who else?
Speaker 2:uh, speaking of comeback, I didn't know we were going to talk about this, but guess what? I found out three days ago, what they are making a remake of the naked gun. Shut your mouth, not gonna shut my mouth, nope, nope.
Speaker 3:Remake of the.
Speaker 2:Naked Gun, how I mean everybody's dead. Well, it's a new cast, oh okay, a reboot, a reboot. Yeah, I guess a reboot, oh cool. Do you know who the cast is? Who? Frank Drebin is played by Liam Neeson.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 2:Priscilla Presley, Pamela Anderson.
Speaker 3:That's good. Priscilla Presley, pamela Anderson that's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's good, what else? That's all I know. Who plays OJ? I don't know. I don't know. Cuba Gooding Jr? Yeah, he did earlier, he did already. Yeah, they're making a reboot, wait isn't he like in Purgatory 2?
Speaker 3:Didn't he get?
Speaker 2:canceled. Oh yeah, he did he actually got busted, didn't he?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So yeah, cuba Gooding Jr will not be playing the OJ part.
Speaker 2:Jay Pharoah. He'd be a good one.
Speaker 3:I like it, jay Pharoah's very talented.
Speaker 2:Very.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 2:You know what I saw Jay Phrell doing the other day. What A Bill Burr impersonation Do these easy impressions.
Speaker 3:You do your thing, you do them easy, they're easy to do.
Speaker 6:It's not hard, do somebody else, somebody hot, somebody from Boston.
Speaker 3:Do Burr?
Speaker 2:You're kidding is it good? It's pretty good. I watched this thing. It was Bill uh uh, bill Burr watching people impersonate him.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love it. I'm going to check that out right now.
Speaker 2:You should check it out. It's really, it's really good.
Speaker 3:That cause. That's perfect for me. I love it. Okay, good, all right, um, make sure you like. Follow, download, subscribe, give us a rating, take care of us. Let us grow this podcast, please. Again, I've ran off a couple of our listeners and we need to reload. Also, we got some fantastic merchandise available. Go to the 90, or, excuse me, the the new 93Q.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't go there. Don't go there. We don't benefit from that anymore. Yeah, don't go there. Don't go there.
Speaker 3:We don't benefit from that anymore. Yeah, don't go there, fuck them. Go to the Tuttle Cline Facebook page. Yeah, if you go, look in there for our stuff. Yeah, you're not going to see it.
Speaker 3:It's not going to be there. As a matter of fact, if you type my name into any of their stuff, they immediately delete it. Yeah, they got rid of their whole rating on Facebook because people were bombing it after I left. Yeah, they dismantled. You can't even do a rating, or at least couldn't for a while. Wow, that's so funny. So, yeah, you type T-U-T-T-L-E and then there's immediately some AI and it'll erase that, isn't?
Speaker 2:that flattering though.
Speaker 3:Oh, totally, I love it. I mean we have thousands of people, thousands bombed them, wow. And that's when I realized in my goodbye speech I said it too is like you never really know until something like that happens. You know, like a comedian knows right away he's got, he's got a punchline, he's got to set up in a punchline and he knows right away if it's it. When you're doing a radio show, it's just a few of you in a room. You don't know what you are to the audience, really the audience, really, you're just, you're guessing and you can't really go by the rating system anyway. Anyway, because it's shitty, that's, that's a ridiculous rating system. I mean just, I was, I mean just terrible. So you don't know. But you know, that day I knew they, they, they flooded for me and I'm, and I and I'll never, ever forget that and always be appreciative, absolutely. All right, cam, great, have a good time in den. Thank you, buddy. I'm outie.
Speaker 1:That's it for this episode of the Tuttle Cline Show. See you this Wednesday for an all-new episode. Also, you can catch Tuttle on TV. He is a handsome man. And you can get more Cline on his podcast, the Fuzzy Mike, with new episodes on Tuesday. Stay fuzzy, friends, and thanks for listening to the Tuttle Cline Show. Yo Alright, take it yo out.
